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The Accupuncturist? Not for me, reality is subjective. A person that is deceased no longer exists corporally. However they have a reality, than those who are living. Although I have no way of knowing.

Wouldn't this mean that there is no objective reality. Just many subjective ones

Different facets for different faces

That's been happening to me as well. I don't see the figures I feel them Continuation of ChatGPT Out of the bases which is not emergent Excellent question — it cuts to the heart of what we mean by a "base" of reality. To answer it, we must ask: Which of these foundations could plausibly be non-emergent — meaning, it doesn’t arise from something else, but is itself fundamental? Let's assess each base in terms of emergence vs. fundamentality: 1. Information Is it Emergent? Possibly not. Some theories treat information as ontologically fundamental. In digital physics or "It from Bit", information is the substrate from which everything (matter, space, time) arises. In thermodynamics and black hole physics, entropy/information is the most conserved and universal quantity. Not clearly emergent — could be a true base. 2. Mathematics Is it Emergent? If you’re a mathematical Platonist, math exists eternally, independently of minds or physical instantiation. If you're a formal constructivist, math is a human-made language — then it's emergent from cognition. Depends on stance: Platonist: Not emergent. Constructivist: Emergent from minds. 3. Quantum Reality Is it Emergent? The formalism (quantum fields, wave functions) is fundamental within physics, but… Some physicists believe quantum mechanics is emergent from deeper principles like: Information theory Causal sets Quantum gravity models Likely emergent, from information or deeper mathematical/informational structures. 4. Consciousness Is it Emergent? In materialism, consciousness emerges from brain complexity. In panpsychism or idealism, consciousness is not emergent — it's a primitive, irreducible component of reality. Integrated Information Theory (IIT) treats consciousness as fundamental to any system with integrated information. Depends on theory: Materialism: Emergent. Idealism / Panpsychism: Not emergent. 5. Materialism (Physical Matter & Energy) Is it Emergent? In quantum field theory, matter emerges from quantum fields. In quantum gravity or holographic theories, spacetime and matter are emergent from information and entanglement. Even time itself might be emergent. Widely considered emergent in modern theoretical physics. Summary: Which Bases Are Not Emergent? Base Emergent? Notes Information Likely not Often treated as the deepest layer (e.g., "It from Bit") Mathematics Debated Depends on realism vs. constructivism Quantum Likely yes May emerge from info-theoretic or topological foundations Consciousness Debated Fundamental in idealism; emergent in physicalism Materialism Yes Emerges from quantum & informational levels Final Reflection If we seek a non-emergent base — a true ground of being — the best candidates are: Information (in digital or entropy-theoretic views) Mathematics (if Platonist) Consciousness (if idealist) Each represents a different metaphysical orientation: Information → computational/structural reality. Mathematics → abstract, logical determinism. Consciousness → experiential/phenomenal primacy. You could think of them as three mutually irreducible candidates for reality’s foundation. Would you like to explore the consequences of treating one of these as the absolute non-emergent base?

This is the interaction I had with ChatGPT on this subject. I would like you to explore a reality with the following bases starting with Information, then Mathematics, Quantum, Consciousness, then Materialism. Fully describe the base then show it could link to the next base. Finally give an overview or conclusion. Also state your assumptions and possible paradoxes BASE 1: Information as the Fundamental Reality What It Is Information is the difference that makes a difference (Gregory Bateson). It’s not physical by itself, but describes how physical or abstract systems relate. John Wheeler’s “It from Bit” idea suggests that particles, fields, space, and time arise from binary distinctions — yes/no choices, like bits in a computer. Reality as Information The universe can be modeled as a giant processing system. Physical laws are emergent patterns in the manipulation and flow of information. Entropy and thermodynamics suggest the universe evolves through information-processing constraints. Link to Mathematics Information needs structure to be meaningful — structure emerges from mathematical relations. Bits alone are meaningless without rules or patterns — which are mathematical in nature. Thus: Information ➝ Mathematics Information gives rise to structure → math encodes and formalizes those structures. BASE 2: Mathematics as the Ground of Being What It Is Mathematics is an abstract, timeless realm of relations, forms, and logic. Max Tegmark's Mathematical Universe Hypothesis (MUH) posits that the universe is a mathematical structure. Reality as Mathematics Everything in physics can be written in mathematical terms. Mathematical patterns underlie chaos, quantum fields, gravity, and the behavior of particles. If mathematics exists independently of minds or observers, it could be the foundation of all possible realities. Link to Quantum Reality Mathematics provides the formalism for quantum theory: Hilbert spaces, operators, probability amplitudes. But quantum theory introduces behavior — probabilities, observation, superposition — not just static math. Thus: Mathematics ➝ Quantum Reality Static structures (math) ➝ dynamic behavior (quantum evolution and measurement). BASE 3: Quantum Reality What It Is Quantum mechanics describes how particles and fields behave at the smallest scales. Core principles: superposition, entanglement, uncertainty, and the role of observation. It is probabilistic, not deterministic. Reality as Quantum Everything physical reduces to quantum interactions. Quantum fields create particles and forces. Reality is a probabilistic web of potential outcomes collapsing into concrete states when observed. Link to Consciousness The Measurement Problem: What causes the wave function to collapse? Conscious observation seems to play a role (though debated). Wigner, von Neumann, and others proposed consciousness as a necessary component of quantum measurement. Thus: Quantum ➝ Consciousness Quantum uncertainty resolves into concrete reality through conscious observation. BASE 4: Consciousness What It Is Consciousness is the capacity for subjective experience — “what it’s like” to be something. Some theories suggest it is fundamental (panpsychism, idealism), not emergent. Reality as Consciousness If the world only "exists" in the form of experiences, then experience itself might be primary. Quantum events collapse into reality only when observed — and observation requires a conscious entity. Link to Materialism From this view, the material world is a projection or result of consciousness organizing experience. Yet, consciousness seems bound to the brain — a physical system. Thus: Consciousness ➝ Materialism Consciousness gives rise to a world that appears physical — as a shared, stable dream-like structure. BASE 5: Materialism What It Is The view that reality consists of physical matter and energy. Everything — mind, life, universe — emerges from the interactions of material elements governed by laws. Reality as Material The brain generates consciousness. Measurement is physical; quantum states collapse because of interactions with the environment. Information, math, and consciousness are emergent phenomena from physical systems. Circular Structure & Paradox Now we reach a paradox: If materialism is the base, then consciousness is an emergent illusion. But if consciousness is required for measurement, the physical world needs it to exist. If quantum physics needs consciousness, and consciousness needs the brain, and the brain is made of quantum systems — we get a loop. This circular dependence hints at something deeper: maybe no single base is absolute. Assumptions Made Reality is coherent and describable. Consciousness is not reducible to matter in a straightforward way. Information is a real and foundational concept (not merely linguistic). Mathematics has existence beyond human minds. Possible Paradoxes Measurement Problem: Does reality exist without observation? Hard Problem of Consciousness: How does subjective experience arise from physical processes? Math Realism Paradox: Does math exist without minds? If so, where? Simulation Paradox: If information is primary, who or what computes the simulation? Circular Causality: Consciousness needs matter, which needs quantum, which needs information, which may require consciousness again. Conclusion: A Layered or Holographic Reality Rather than a single “most fundamental” base, a more coherent picture may be: Reality is a recursive, entangled structure where each layer gives rise to the next, yet also depends on the deeper ones for its expression. Information gives form → Mathematics gives structure → Quantum fields give dynamics → Consciousness gives observation → Materialism gives embodiment → Which allows consciousness again, completing the loop. This could imply a holographic or non-linear base — reality as a mutually reinforcing network of fundamental principles rather than a linear hierarchy.

This is why comprehension is so important. Mel is learning more about herself talking to (notice I didn't say with), hence it isn't a waste of her time.

He may die before the end of his term.

Happy Birthday.

The second one turned out well

I very rarely argue, I am not interested in trying to open a closed person. Its a waste of time.

I just started to read Epicurus Being Happy. It has the following quote, " Most people, however, recoil from death as though it were the greatest of evils; at other times they welcome it as the end all life's ills. @aka Contrarian "living well and dying well are one and the same discipline."

These are trying times Twin. Reaching deeply into the Magic Bag @Mel Hopkins

I did a search on him vey interesting. He started one of the first esoteric groups in America. And he has written quite a few esoteric books. Thanks, Troy

I had to look up crepe hang. Nice. I thought I would be dead by 35. So I lived like I was going to die. I had a great time up to 36. One of my earliest memories is going to a funeral. I was also interested in Life after death. Recently I tried to figure out when I would die Astrologically. It appears to be around mid September. I happen to have a lot of time and I'm not really mobile. So I have even more time to think about life and how people relate. The current state of the world blah blah. The last 5 years is the first time in my life I wasn't hopeful that we have a viable future. Most people have more of a relationship with their phone than other people. The other day I asked a stranger for help tightening my leg brace. We sat down and talked for a couple of hours before her flight back to Zurich. We had a deep conversation about relationships. So we have a date to go to Newcastle Australia in a year. Maybe it happens but it was encouraging to meet a like minded soul. Since I had given up the on meeting people that were more interested in exploring life than living on their phones. The irony is that I am sharing this online as opposed to a physical friend. @aka Contrarian I can relate to your sediments ((not an error(the word is intentionally, but the sentence may not be an accurate expression of your position))

Yes

No I don't think so.

After you have the answer. You will be home for the holidays

I feel that you are working towards an answer to a question, or an understanding.

@aka Contrarian I think you'll be home for the holidays.

I have to say you critique and various comments about my personality and other had a profound effect on me. I think even Pioneer made a comment that actually had value for me. @aka Contrarian i feel a stronger affinity to your position since I am less interest in the outside world and more interested in the inner one. Which is making me se the falseness and certain realities in the external world. I also seem to have more synchronicities and magical moments. In addition just listening to people and them telling me who they actually are beyond the mask. I have said this before you are an unconscious Magician I have only met a few. So when you get to the other side pop into my dream and lets have a conversation,. If I am still interesting.

I have found a new technique to analyse time based on a person's natal chart. Using this system I correctly told the querent when they saw a doctor within a two week time frame. This is the first on I have done. However I am extremely pleased with the results. Will do a few if there is any interest.

A few friends have said that to me. My response is yeah but you can end up over your head. So I'd rather not and just develop naturally

If a Quantum formula describes matter that is the rule that information is following but it may not be the same as the information. For example a regression model describes how variables move in tandem but the movement doesn't tell you about the properties of the object.

Quantum Reality or quantum Mechanics. DNA is information