
Delano
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That's exactly what was found. 100% This is just one example of a study where people are reactingbtona stimulus that was to fast or short to be consciously perceived. https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0044496
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Yes a couple of examples would be good And you believe that AI can model the unconscious and intuition. Okay but if you are programming I don't think sometimes understanding the unconscious and intuition is going to work. A large part of the mind is a Black Box. Did you know that we react to things that we sent able to see. Either because they happen to fast. Or we react before we have seen the image? There are quite a few of these studies. Science is at post to explain these types of occurrences. But you think AI can solve this puzzle.
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So according to the article most thinking task place outside of consciousness and intuition a vital part of that, even when it is wrong
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I can see AI being useful in dream interpretation. Since symbolism is well documented. I agree that AI assisted dream interpretation could give the interpretation more depth.
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How can you mimic something that doesn't show up in consciousness?
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@aka Contrarian Can you share the dream.
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/dreaming-in-the-digital-age/202405/future-models-of-ai-enhanced-dream-interpretation
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This is an excerpt from Psychology Today. The unconscious is the vast sum of operations of the mind that take place below the level of conscious awareness. The conscious mind contains all the thoughts, feelings, cognitions, and memories we acknowledge, while the unconscious consists of deeper mental processes not readily available to the conscious mind. Much learning, especially recognition of complex patterns, takes place outside of conscious awareness. Similarly, many of the elements that go into judgments and decision-making are processed outside of awareness. Intuition, too, is a product of unconscious mental operations, a set of assumptions swiftly assembled from cumulative knowledge and experience. Much of human motivation and interpersonal attraction also take shape beyond conscious awareness.
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Do a search on "Can we map the unconscious mind" And you will see how important it and intuition are. And how they are difficult to understand how they function.
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This is where you and I disagree.
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@Troy I have spent spent 25 years reading and studying Tarot and Astrology. So I have an experience which I combine with thinking and intuition. The meanings I associate with symbols is fluid. What makes reading challenging is when contradictory symbols are combined. There is no rule or rational way to choose one or the other. A person can learn to do that but it takes time. I would say that AI can give good Tarot readings. I have gotten or few that were fitting. I think it can also do a reasonably well natal delineation. I know a Horary Astrologer that has created a Horary software application. I haven't used it but I can imagine it works. Since Horary has lots of rules that are amenable to programming. The same is it true for my system. The meanings I ascribe is a function of how I feel. The other thing I have noticed is the following. If I am doing a reading for someone the time has to feel right. I can't tell you why or even name the feeling. So unless feelings can be programmed AI won't get to the next level. Lots of Astrologers think AI is going to revolutionise Astrology. I don't think so because what happens o Astrology is divination and inspiration. Which I don't believe can be coded.
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@Troy intuition is outside of rational thought. I don't no how you can create an effective irrational algorithm. Intuition and the mind are black boxes. How can you right am algor of something that isn't understood. I look at a words or clock time and turn that into a chart. That can't be copied, because the original is in my mind. I created three different symbol sets to be able to do this. I also sometimes choose one over the other two. So that by itself is a high hurdle. I have formulae that I apply to symbol sets I have created. Sometimes I will have a few charts and I have to decide who go use. I get a feeling. It's not even a thought. Do you think AI cam be become Clairvoyant, Clairsentient, Claireaudient, Clairalience or Clairgustance
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Some links about intuition. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/explorations-of-the-mind/202308/intuition-what-it-is-and-how-it-works https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/intuition
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AI runs on algorithms. Intuition takes everything you know and your unconscious pops out an answer. So I don't think that can be program. Unless we understand the mind and the unconscious.
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Intuition is not the same as computation. It is about a feeling. Everyone can think about a problem but answering intuitive is a different thing altogether. Like love it is irrational, yet it adds colour to life
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Everything that happens is already determined…
Delano replied to Troy's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
I would say that we don't choose freely. For example some wants to lose weight and exercise yet the find it difficult. Perhaps to have free will and independent mond and strong will power is needed. -
Yeah it can't get a straight forward calculation correct. I doubt it will develop intuition. Which is what makes a reader good
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Everything that happens is already determined…
Delano replied to Troy's topic in Culture, Race & Economy
Every decision is a function of intellect, emotion and experience. To the extent that these processes are unconscious implies that making an unbiased decision is impossible. Hence I would say we have the illusion of free will. For example your language constrains your thinking. Which is why some words van not be translated it have no corresponding equivalent in another language. -
Most of my system came from my subconscious. I haven't met another Astrologer who understands what I do except for one who had a similar idea but couldn't make it work. So there is no info on the net other than me. What I have posted is a word and then the chart I created . Three aren't any other inputs. In addition I have created three languages or symbol sets that I use to create the chart. There is a time I have developed which also isn't something that is anywhere on the internet. And finally there are formulae O have created which also aren't on the net. So there is no data for anyone to manipulate. Finally the system is a function of how I think books I have read , people I have met, a f thousands of readings I have done over two decades. I don't know how you think AI can figure all of those steps. When it can't calculate your ascendant correctly. Ironically that is a mathematical formula. Doing the calculation in my head I was off by 15 degrees half of one sign. Whereas AI ess wrong by nine signs . No I am not worried about AI. Do you still think it is the magic pill.
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The information is wrong your ascendant can't be 347 which is pisces . It is Gemini. Being born at 9 am is roughly 45 degrees. Assuming sunrise of 6 am. April 8 would be about 18 degree of Aries. 18+45=63 which is 3 Gemini . That's in my head. Your ascendant is actually 18 Gemini I am off by 15 degrees because I didn't use Daylight Saving Time. Every hours is roughly 15 degrees. Although this varies by sign and time of year. I have a few steps in converting a word into time. I also have three different sets that I use. Not one of these can be figured out. I did know one Astrologer who had the same idea but he couldn't get it to work. It worked for me because the a gre steps popped into my head. Timing events is notoriously difficult in Astrology except for me. Although it took me about 7 years to figure it out. I have a few steps in converting a word into time. I also have three different sets that I use. Not one of these can be figured out. I did know one Astrologer who had the same idea but he couldn't get it to work. It worked for me because the a gre steps popped into my head. Timing events is notoriously difficult in Astrology except for me. Although it took me about 7 years to figure it out.
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Troy ask AI to create a chart from a word. It can't be done because I have never shown anyone how to do it .
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@aka Contrarian since it qualifies time it can be used for any activity. As long as you control the start time. Meditation , trips to the doctors or any office. Leaving the house , meeting people, being lucky, clarity, introspection it can be used for many things except gambling. So you tell me what effect you are after give me a two hour window and I'll ind the best time to maximise that activity. You can even pick something that you do routinely and I'll give you the start time. That way you can see if it is noticeably different.
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Both clock and words are made up of symbols either letters or numerals. What I have done is give each letter and numeral a meaning. Or rather a set of correspondences. So each word or moment in time has a specific meaning. I then take the word or numbers then convert them into my system. The big leap was creating a series of formula that converts words and numbers into a future date.
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I was having a discussion with a famous Astrologer. Apparently what I do with prediction has never been done . I have a technique where I can describe the quality of specific moments in time. I also have a technique that converts a word into an Astrology chart. I haven't met any Astrologers who can understand the concept much less replicate it . If you think back on our bet about Trump. The time I mentioned was within a ten days of his impeachment.. I had gotten the date from a comment you had made. So unless I teach my technique it won't be discoverable. After more than two decades of Astrology, I have found that an Astrological chart never repeats. Try asking AI to create a chart from a word. It won't even understand the question.
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No not unless AI develops intuition. There are only a handful of Astrologers that are good at prediction. There are so many factors in a chart there is no rational way to choose the relevant ones No not unless AI develops intuition. There are only a handful of Astrologers that are good at prediction. There are so many factors in a chart there is no rational way to choose the relevant ones