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So by saying there is a TOTAL lack of morals in the Black community, you're also including yourself. You admit to your own immorality, correct?

Are you suggesting that Blacks should victimize OTHERS instead?

-Are YOU Black?

ProfD Sure. As I've mentioned before, they don't have real power. They have the power of the BULLY PULPIT. Adams and Johnson can both call press conferences anytime they like and have a nationwide audience to express any concerns they have, expose any scandal or injustice, or speak directly to the American (including AfroAmerican) people on any issue. If they CHOOSE not to do so...that's on them. I don't blame White racists for that....I blame THEM for not using the power at their disposal. Excellent examples of limited power. Mayor Adams is catching h8ll for going against the Democratic agenda related to immigration. Ok.... So there's a difference between LIMITED power and NO power. They do have SOME power, but they aren't using what they got. Infact, I'd say neither one of them are using a FRACTION of the power they have. Now that Adams is IN office, and barring any type of major crime he'll BE in office for atleast a few more years before he's up for re-election, he can just go INDEPENDENT where he's no longer answering to the Democratic officials. We know the difference between bully and buffer. Going to war with buffers won't accomplish anything. Most bullies are powerless without their weapons/tools. Take the buffers away...and the bullies soon lose their status. Great example of how most Black folks of any level of intelligence are keeping their pie-holes closed on that situation. Lol...well....some of the FOOLS are still diving into the conflict head first. Like Flava Flav said: They jumped out of the jelly into a jam. In other news, Kanye West has written a letter of apology to the Jews. Foolish dude. But, he has an album coning out next month I tried to tell people about Kanye...they just wouldn't listen, lol. That man is a clown and a half. All he did was lose about HALF of the few Black folks who WERE silly enough to follow him. Fortunately most knew better; but of those who didn't and thought he was making "chess moves" by running his mouth about Jews WHILE getting his money from them - after THIS latest episode of Kanye's odd-ball antics, atleast about half of them have enough sense to walk away from him now. That leaves the other half who are silly enough to STILL rock with that goofy ass nigga. For example: Just an all around buck-eyed clown.

No....NONE of it bothers me, because none of it is true....lol. Maybe if they WERE true, it may have kept me up a night or two....but since they're not..... You didn't answer my question about Jesus, btw....lol.

ProfD White folks are in control of the immigration. Because we don't TAKE control of it. There are AfroAmericans in nearly every agency of government at nearly every level. We may not always have the huge numbers, but we're there. This includes the Department of Immigration and Naturalization as well as ICE. We ALLOW them to have full control over the immigration policy even when we are in positions to exert our power and change things. Look at how they did the Haitians a few years ago and Black folks in Immigration and ICE did nothing. They are allowing other minorities to flood the zone in places that AfroAmericans do not own. But you have Black mayors going along with it. Both Adams and Johnson could do far more than they're doing to stop it. How about using their power and authority to end "Sanctuary City" status and turn those buses around before they get to their cities? But they won't do it. Instead, they sit up and complain and look silly. Just like the bully, you're definitely not going to win by beating up the goldfish. These "buffer classes" are being set up so that YOU CAN'T REACH the bully. They are being used as "gate keepers". You're going to have to deal with them one way or the other. That still requires 1) being kn code and 2) major vetting of potential strategic allies. One of the things I've discovered in dealing with people is that intelligent Black people tend to AUTOMATICALLY get on code for the most part. Especially as individuals. Now when you throw politics, religion, and ethnicity in the mix...those differences often lead to conflict; but when it comes to current events and straight fact....most intelligent Black folks are on code with eachother and in agreement. A good example of what I'm talking about is the recent Israe-Gaza Conflict. Most INTELLIGENT Black folks instinctively knew to stay out of that conflict and mind our own Black business. Right. Folks in other cultures are more on code. Many of them have been programmed wirh anti-Black sentiment. With many of them, "anti-Blackness" IS their code. If they didn't focus on hating Black folks and opposing Black folks so much, they wouldn't have code OR a culture.

ProfD That's a huge hurdle we have to overcome. It can happen, with proper organization. But don't expect it to happen anytime soon. Right. It's a battle that has to be fought on several fronts. I personally believe dealing with the immigration crisis is ONE of those fronts. How do you win a war with the racists if they are constantly sneaking in reinforcement to bolster their failing numbers? Accepting the fact that we have no friends among other groups of people makes it even easier. It's usually best to error on the side of caution and trust nobody. However the smartest and most intelligent among us can strategize with CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS from other groups to get what we need and want. This is different than saying: -"Black folks need to form a Black-n-Brown Coalition to get along with the Latinos" You have more success making coalitions with INDIVIDUALS than with entire racial groups.

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frankster That what I have to add will not change any of the Facts Germane to the case....The difference is inconsequential. Ofcourse you don't have to change any facts germane to the case, all you have to do is add LIES and FALSEHOOD to it to make a difference...lol. The judge thinks you told MOSTLY the truth, but sprinkled a FEW lies here, there, and round-a-bout, lol. We covered this Already here is "was actually killing living things.....which is a natural occurrence in nature" Yes, we KEEP covering it over and over again because you don't want to admit to your poor choice of words by saying nature is ALWAYS life giving and life supporting. Lightning cannot take....Lightning Strikes Lightning "takes" atleast 2 things: 1. It takes a certain amount of TIME to strike something 2. It often takes the LIFE of that which it struck. -It even sometimes TAKE your sight away temporarily if you are looking directly at it and it strikes close enough. Life can not be destroyed ....by humans. Where did the "lightning" take the tree's life to....? Where exactly, I'm not sure. But OUT of the tree, that's for sure. Where is the Life of the Tree Now? It's a bit of an illogical question. The tree is dead and has no life of it's own. If you say I was or is black...Then that is you confirming my assertion that i am black No sir. - that is you saying i am black Yes sir. More specifically, that's me REPEATING that you are Black based on what YOU told me. But it hasn't been confirmed. if you say that i say i am black...then that is you confirming that i say i am black Yes sir. - that is you saying that i said i was black Yes sir. However I would be simply confirming what you SAID...not what you ARE. Two different things. That's why ACCURACY matters. You can....but most people want confirmation Now we may be making SOME progresses...lol. If only we could get the Bible and other so-called "holy" books and go through every verse like this....lol

Jeromex uh, because India is a corrupt impoverished country. Ok....and who made it that way? What ethnicity of people?

Well first of all, if they had "little or no" money, how the hell did they make it all the way around the globe to the U.S.? Plane trips cost money..... SOMEBODY is bringing their asses here...lol. My question for YOU is, why couldn't they have succeeded in INDIA with hard work and no excuses?

If their "strong work ethic" works so well for them... Then why are so many of them hitch-hiking, marching, hiding up under trains cabooses, and sucking dicks for rides by the millions just to get to the U.S.? Seems to me..... If having a "strong work ethic" is the key to success, they would find MORE success down in Cental and South America where they come from instead of stealing their way up here to scavenge the opportunities here, right?

frankster They differ only in degree....it is not a miscalculation. ALL is not the same as MOSTLY. If you were in court and admitted to the judge that you told MOST of the truth but not ALL of it, what do you think the judge will say? Do not confuse semantics with accuracy.... But when it comes to science, there is little room for semantics. Every word has a specific meaning. The Tree Gave its Life....To support Life The tree didn't GIVE it's life, it was TAKEN by the lightning. The lightning is part of the same nature that you said was ALWAYS life giving and supporting. Yet this part of nature ENDED a life. That's not semantics. That's a direct contradiction of your position. If you accepted and restated that I was or is Black ......Then you have Confirmed my Assertions of Blackness. If I accept it and restated it I merely ACCEPTED and RESTATED it. I didn't CONFIRM it until I VERIFIED it for myself that it was a fact. Dictionary Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more con·firm /kənˈfərm/ verb 1. establish the truth or correctness of (something previously believed, suspected, or feared to be the case). As for the link you provided.... Sure something can be confirmed AND accepted. One doesn't cancel out the other. Infact, usually things ARE accepted once they are confirmed. My point is that they are NOT THE SAME. You can accept something WITHOUT confirming it.

I'm with that. To be honest, for some reason I didn't realize this thread was started by richardmurray. I thought it was started by Harry Brown....lol. Harry doesn't post pictures or do polls so I'm not sure why I thought that....but......

ProfD Yep. Both she and Vivek Ramaswamy have something in common. Interesting that these Indian-Americans choose to side with white supremacy. They were doing it in India helping the British to subjugate their own people. Even many of the brown skinned ones worship white skin and believe in elevating White people. Which is one of the reasons so many of them are allowed over here in the first place. They are TOOLS of the White racists. This goes back to their history and culture in India where I was discussing in another thread how the White Aryans INVADED the Indus Valley region thousands of years ago killing and enslaving the original Black people of India and driving many of them further south. To this very day there is a light/white skinned ELITISM that operates through out much of the nation. We...AfroAmericans...are making a huge change in it because when they come here and see so many of US be successful and boldly and proudly proclaim our Blackness...it forces a lot of them to stand up and be proud also. Because for centuries many of them were living as "untouchables".

ProfD I don't argue. Just providing my opinion. Lol... The real enemy is always racism white supremacy. From the teachings of NF Jr., you already know the rest I'm inclined to say that it's the MAJOR enemy, but we certainly have others. From a more personal point of view, I believe MY biggest enemies are Ignorance and Confusion. However racism is still a major one on my list. Sure. We should think more like Jews. Anybody who isn't helping us is an enemy. No distractions or confusion. They've had it so down lately, that even if you just remain SILENT on the issue....you're on the suspect list, lol. A tool is just as dangerous as the enemy. We have some amongst us too in the form of bootlicks and shills. Exactly...and they should be addressed. However in MY OPINION the biggest enemies among us aren't the bootlicks and samboes. They are the thugs and criminals wreaking havoc in our communities on a daily basis. Clarence Thomas and Jesse Lee Peterson may talk crazy, but they aren't out here jacking people and killing children. Find a way to take down the bully first. Then, go after the accomplices. ...unless the accomplices are the ones whooping on you at the current moment, lol. Then you get THEM off you so you can get up off the ground and go after the bully. Sometimes you can't even GET to the bully without going through them. For the most part, they're also afraid of the bully as well. They might become become allies once the bully is defeated. That's true. ....or try to take his place. Fundamentally, that level of dependency needs to change. Self-sufficiency leads to independence. While this is correct, right now most of our people...infact most Americans period...are just trying to SURVIVE. The problem is that our people have been content with stepping stones when they should have been building their own elevators. Our people have spent way too much time relying on an evil hand to provide the crumbs of their daily bread. Again, correct. However you're not going to change that mentality overnight. Until then, we need to try to hold on to as much of the resources as we can in this nation...including the resources and privileges we have as citizens of this nation. This is OUR NATION...whether we take ownership of it or not. Let's take the great state of Michigan for a moment. The motor city was built on the auto industry. A huge chunk of the American auto industry abandoned factories there. Took their business to Mexico or Canada. AfroAmericans should have pooled their resources and bought and re-tooled those factories to produce and manufacture automobiles, parts, accessories, etc. Instead, when the *jobs* got outsourced, unless white folks gave them something else to do, it seems our people shrugged their shoulders and went shuffling off to the unemployment or welfare office. Meanwhile, 61-year old Dan Gilbert, d8mn near owns the city of Detroit. He was a young fella when Motown went down. No arguments from me on this what so ever! Infact, I've been saying it for nearly 20 years now. Right. Definitely have to keep track of every *who* isn't really on our side. It might be quicker to grab a sheet of paper and make a list of who IS....lol.

Shouldn't you know something ABOUT the history of the country you're "trying" to run? She's a tether anyway..... I'm sure she doesn't give a damn about the Civil OR Revolutionary Wars, if that knowledge doesn't help her further her own personal goals.

ProfD I've said on numerous occasions that at the ROOT of the problems that so many of our people are going through is a LOW INTELLIGENCE problem. Too many of our people are just plain STUPID. Ain't got sense enough to think their way out of a fenced in back yard. Not all. Not most. But enough to have a major effect on and slow the progress of our community. We need to lose the dead weight and separate ourselves from the fools, clowns, and morally depraved of our community and I GUARANTEE you that most of the problems we complain about will seemingly "vanish" overnight. But as long as we keep making excuses for stupid behavior and thinking "something else" is the problem, the ROOT problem will persist.

ProfD Man you sho' can be argumentative when you want to...lol. You could give FRANKSTER some competition...lol. Therein lies the real enemy. White folks THE real enemy, or just A real enemy...among many others? Also, it should be noted that many Latinos ARE White. Again, we should be fighting the real enemy who has inserted them between us and himself. Going back to what I just said, if many Latinos ARE White then opposing their aggressions is actually doing what you just suggested. I believe ALL of the enemies and adversaries of our community should be addressed, especially to the degree of threat that they pose. Now... Are Latinos poisoning the water in Black communities and devising poisonous vaccines to give our children Autism? I don't think so. However on a more basic and street level they DO realize they don't belong in this nation but are coming here and sucking up resources like food, housing, and jobs that they know they are not entitled to. This DIRECTLY affects our community and makes them as a COMMUNITY an adversary of sorts to our community. Even if a person is NOT the enemy, if they are a TOOL of the enemy....are they not still dangerous? When a bully kicks someone's azz, it doesn't make sense for the victim to go and beat up someone else. Gotta find a way to beat up the bully. What if the person whom you want to go beat up HELPED the bully to kick your ass? You may not be able to beat the bully JUST YET....but you SURE can find and straight up ROCK the snot box of that weasly-wasscle who was getting his stomps and kicks in grinning while the big bully was working on you....lol. One doesn't have to fight for wealth if they already have it. Nor should one have to fight for opportunities being handed out by the dominant society. Create opportunities and wealth for self. Sure. However these are very idealistic proposals that many of our leaders have already suggested. In this current society you have a mix of self-made independent AfroAmericans but they are a minority. Most of our people DO depend on the system and on White folks to employ them. If you let too many adversaries and immigrants in to snatch up those resources and opportunities, a lot of AfroAmericans who ARE dependent on the system will fall through the cracks and won't MAKE IT to eventually become independent. Their stepping stone was removed. The reparations owed to AfroAmericans is already being held in a trust fund. The dominant society has no intention of giving it up. We have to demand for and/or take it Don't say "we" because when you're dealing with some of our people....during a fight when the shit really goes down you'll look up and find yourself BY yourself, lol. Like that episode of the Jeffersons when George hired the big Puerto Rican dude to be his bodyguard and went to Harlem to confront that all girl-gang. When the girls hemmed him up, the nigga turned around to get Hugo and he was GONE....lol.

-According to the Bible, wasn't JESUS born out of wed-lock? Did JESUS hang out on the corners throwing rocks at the police, disrespecting teachers, and getting tattoos?

ProfD I'm not sure if you want to really hear what's at the ROOT of the problem....lol. I've said it many times before but you seem to take offense to it so I let it go...lol.

ProfD President Lincoln said if he could preserve the Union AND keep Slavery at the same time.....he would do so. I'm not a Civil War historian so I'm not 100% sure what all of the factors involved were, but most of those in the North didn't care too much about freeing AfroAmericans. What I DO know is, they were losing like a mug.....UNTIL the "colored troops" started getting in on the action. ".....n...n..n..now dat WE here".

ProfD AfroAmericans should be so much further ahead of Latinos that there would be no reason to fight with them for anything. We were....and I BELIEVE we still are ahead of them both economically and politically, but to a lesser degree than in the past. The problem is they are GETTING HELP from the White Americans who wish them to replace us. If they laws were enforced properly and fairly: 1. There wouldn't be NEARLY as many AfroAmericans locked up as there are right now, which means more would be free and in society to pro-create and produce for both their communities and ours. and... 2. I'd say well over HALF of the Latinos currently in this nation WOULDN'T BE HERE because over half of them are either illegal immigrants OR immediate descendants of illegal immigrants. But the White Racists in power aren't enforcing the laws fairly and properly. Infact, they are IN YOUR FACE ignoring the laws and bringing illegal immigrants in by the millions and DISPERSING them all over the nation! If the governors of Florida and Texas were TRULY about reducing the illegal immigration they would be ARRESTING them at the boarder and holding them in massive detention compounds. ....and paying millions of dollars for busses and planes to spread them all over the nation. AfroAmericans definitely should not be fighting with Latinos for crumbs. That's a distraction. Well, my point is they aren't fighting with Latinos over ANYTHING. Crumbs, the loaf, OR the factory. The very idea of competing with Asians or Latinos for limited resources in this nation is the furthest thing from the minds of many of our people....who WILL fight with another Black person over them. AfroAmericans should be fighting racism white supremacy for reparations. Well, if you don't have enough sense to fight for the wealth and opportunities that you DO have...what good will their be to give you more? The Asians, Latinos, and Whites will just take or scheme THAT away from you too. Like Dr.Umar Johnson said....maybe Reparations SHOULD be put on hold until a generation is raised who has sense enough to know what to do with the money and benefits. Don't caste your pearls to swine who'll eat them up and trample over them. Perhaps we should put the Reparations in a TRUST FUND until the Beneficiaries are old enough and mature enough to know HOW to properly use them....lol

frankster They both convey the same General meaning - which sufficient. MOSTLY isn't the same as ALWAYS....period. That's a gross miscalculation. This is why I question your position and understanding on "theories". Instead of respecting the pin-point accuracy often necessary to establish truths and facts and separate them from falsehood and guesswork....you seem to conflate a lot of it together. Then it Life Giving. Again, not to the tree who got hit....lol. Neither giving NOR supporting. But they mean the same in the context of Scientific Theory See, this is what I'm talking about. You fail to understand that they don't mean the same thing. ACCEPTED and CONFIRMED are two different words with two different meanings REGARDLESS of circumstance or setting. Just because they are used in scientific literature, doesn't mean the definitions all of a sudden "changed up" to mean the same thing. If you told me that you were a Black man I'd ACCEPT you at your word, that doesn't mean that I've CONFIRMED that you are.

ProfD AfroAmericans aren't going to fight with Latinos over who gets to work at McDonald's. But that's part of the problem..... When was the last time you saw AfroAmericans fight with Latinos over ANY kind of job? Infact when have you seen them fight with Latinos over JOBS, HOUSING, GOVERNMENT GRANTS, or anything else? If AfroAmericans are the ONLY "competition", it seems as if much of the time....Latinos just move in and select what they like with NO competition at all. Some long tall nigga with a sloppy afro standing up at the cash register with a paper cap on his head taking your order one day....the next day somebody 2 feet shorter with an accent and no neck is trying to take it and you can barely understand what the hell he's saying. Meanwhile, you see the afro nigga walking in to get is LAST pay check and give up a little dap to his former co-workers as he leaves the building. If I'm still alive 22 years, I definitely won't be working anywhere unless I lose it all and end up: Well, Trading Places is an appropriate movie for this conversation...lol. Because that's EXACTLY what Latinos are being brought in here for. To TRADE PLACES with AfroAmericans. .....if we let it happen.