Pioneer1

Queen X
 

Well.......

Would you feel protected and secure if you had a husband who cried more than you?
 

I'm not talking about crying WHILE fighting or crying WHILE  making plans to take action and secure you.

I mean him laid back on the couch with streams of water running down his beard-stubbled brown face blinking and staring at the ceiling;  or him sitting at the dining room table with his arms folded and his head buried down in his arms bawling his eyes out not knowing WHAT to do.

Too often AfroAmericans (both men and women)  have to rely on CAUCASIAN MEN  (police officers, military men, and even "good" white neighbors) to come to their rescue and help them out because they don't have the motivation, confidence, training to get up and TAKE CHARGE of their own communities like Malik Shabazz used to teach.
 

You have a mixed race neighborhood and there are a pack of wild dogs on the loose attacking children...…

If they don't call animal services, chances are Caucasian men will get together with their guns and hunt down those dogs and try to either capture or kill them.

But what do you think most AfroAmerican men would do?
 

….. besides standing on the porch in some shorts and flip-flops with a cell phone stuck to their head running their mouth and looking crazy?


Listen to him:


 

"What?

Huh?

Say what?

Nigga I don't know!

Dey talkin' bout some DAAAWGS  runnin'  round the 'hood or some shit.

You seen any?

Huh?

Naw

Huh?

Naw man.

Naw nigga.... I don't see shit

I saaaiiid naw!

Huh?

((grrrowwllll))

Oh shit!.....hold own!

((RUFFF  RUFFF GRRRRRR ROOOOOAR))

((tumbling and noise in the background))

Ahhh shit.....aaawwwwwwooooooaaaawww"


*You MIGHT hear a "bang-bang" if some Caucasian men happen to be in the area, see him being attacked, and save his ass in time.

 

Too many of us haven't learned to GROW UP and be men and TAKE CHARGE of what's happening in our community.

Too many of our people wait on Caucasians to do EVERYTHING for them and have gotten used to doing so to the point they don't know how to do anything for themselves and feel helpless when confronted with a challenge.
 

Too many AfroAmerican men were raised by single women without RESPONSIBLE adult males in thier life to SHOW THEM how a responsible mature man is supposed to act and protect his family and community.  Because they didn't have a good MODEL many (not all....some just naturally know how to ACT like a man without having to see one)  of them act like they saw the women of their family acting when they were growing up thinking THAT'S how a man is supposed to react.

And how is that?
They start crying, calling on Jesus, and calling on as many Caucasian men as they can think of to come help them.

I wonder what would happen if there were no Caucasian men in the area to call on and we HAD to take care of all of our problems OURSELVES.
 

Chev 

 

Sargon is dated in so many other script, secular and his dated time is much farther ahead of Nimrod. 
 

Yes, I know he's dated.
This is because there is more extra-biblical information on him than on Nimrud.....so his character is more trusted.   Nimrud doesn't really HAVE date outside of the biblical order, so you can't really SAY when he came along.  But both of them are still based on the same individual.

 

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Identifying Nimrod Of Genesis 10 With Sargon Of Akkad By Exegetical And Archaeological Means 
 

https://www.galaxie.com/article/jets56-2-03 

 

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Still others have sought to identify Nimrod with one of the early rulers of Mesopotamia, such as the great Sargon of Akkad. Indeed, Akkad (Agade, the Accad of KJV) is one of the cities whose building is credited to Nimrod (Gen. 10:10). Sargon is known from later Mesopotamian history as the monarch who unified all of Mesopotamia and sedentarized the region of Subartu. 12 For his actions in settling the Domads, he suffered famine at the hands of the god Mardiuk.
 
That the purpose of the tower and city of Babel was to centralize power and to do away with noinadism is hinted at in the Bible (Gen. 11:4). The punishment inflicted upon the builders by God is also mentioned. Thus, there are superficial reasons to accept the identification of Nimrod with Sargon. This is reinforced by the fact that Sargon's name (Akkadian Shamikin) is a mere title, meaning "legitimate king." His real name is unknown to us.

http://ancientamerica.org/library/media/HTML/r1vg0nqa/03 In search of the historicc Nimrod.htm?n=0 

 

When you read about the "sons of the gods" mixing with the "daughters of men" that is talking about the African men who mixed with the Caucasian women and produced mixed-race children who were considered highly esteemed to the more savage and cave dwelling people of that region.

Nimrod/Sargon is one of those mixed offspring and this is one of the reasons he was considered a mighty leader.


 

The SEparation of Church and State--July 4th, 1776 is based on a complete separation from what they founded their 13 colonies by, the KJV Bible. 
This is what sparked the American REvolution, it was all about Chattel Slavery.  
 

Oh.
I thought it was England they allegedly separated from.
And I said allegedly because there are some who believe that England STILL rules the United States.
 

You say that America was founded on and based upon the Bible.  To a certain extent you are correct;  because as I said the Bible or more specifically the Torah were the laws given to the Caucasians by Musa to keep them "uplifted" or civilized.   As long as they hold to those laws/principles that he taught them they would make progress; but when they start deviating they will decline....as you see happening now.

They need BOOKS to keep then civilized and on the right path, we don't.
This is why when you look at most African and Native American religions....they don't involved so-called "holy" scripture.

They eat fruit, have sex, and lay around the village all day enjoying life....lol.

Troy
 

You ask a good question because there is really not a lot of options for older AfroAmerican men.

Old Caucasian men have "clubs" and "lodges" they can join where they sit around and talk about how much they hate n**gers and how great the "good ole days" were....lol.

Besides the church, what do WE have?

As far as the elders getting respect, I have mixed feelings about that...…

Part of me says you SHOULD respect those who are older and more experienced than you, and the older I get the more I understand WHY and the importance of LIFE EXPERIENCE verse book-knowledge.

However, another part of me says the Elders must act WORTHY of respect in order to gain respect of the youth.

Back in the day, the older generations would TEACH and PROTECT the younger generation!
They would teach them how to hunt, how to fight, how to cook, how to build a hut or house......so there was a sense of honor and appreciation that the elders of a community would get from the younger generation.  Today, when you see an old man/woman walking down the street you don't now WHAT their value is or what they've done in the community.........most likely nothing, of any worth.    Picture that old grey-bearded brother sitting infront of the liquor store eating Cheetos and flapping his red tongue as he begs children for money and acts a fool....lol.

So the younger generation has no real REASON to show them any extra reverence as they did in the past.

Perhaps we need to go back to rites of passage and giving the youth a REAL reason to respect us.
 

3 hours ago, Chevdove said:

 

ALSO, i've been trying to post a thread about this very subject, prophecy, and I'm constantly blocked by the hard wall Daddy or something!

This has never happened to me before. 

If you're like most Christians  you'll start blaming it on evil spirits or "the devil" trying to block you from putting out the truth....lol.

I knew a woman, everytime she lost her keys or phone she claimed it was "the devil" playing games with her.

Chev


America did NOT separate from the Bible on July 4th because it was a bunch of fables and myths! LOL
 

What do you mean America separated from the Bible on July 4th?

Egypt was judged for human sacrifice, for putting people in hard bondage. free labor. 
 

Did you know that ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE (a source you trust....lol) the Israelites also practiced human sacrifice as well as hard bondage and slavery?

America is cursed for their enslavement of little African children-
 

You say America is "cursed" but what is your evidence or proof of that?

America is one of the strongest and one of the most properous nations in modern history DESPITE what she did to Africans and Meso Americans.

North Korea and Tasmania didn't commit the sins America committed and they aren't nearly as prosperous.

Do you KNOW America is cursed, or do you just FEEL that America SHOULD be cursed because of the terrible things she's done?
See, this goes back to what I was saying in the other thread about our people hoping and wishing something is true whether it's actually true or not.

 

You are using sources of White people who have defined themselves as Jews but not as the Original Jews.  
Of course they would throw down the Bible.  
 

All of the religous scriptures you have in your positon either come from or pass through the hands of Caucasians.

Even if you say the Bible was from Black people, it was a Caucasian publishing company and printing press that printed it up and distributed it.  So they had their hands on it.

The Bible defines Nimrod as being the founder of AKKAD and as being CUSH HAM. Sargon in the Bible is NOT at all connected to Nimrod, but he is connected to Elam and the ASSYRIANS--ASSHUR SHEM. SARGON, GUDRUN, THE GUNNERS... 
The Bible states that the White Syrians overthrew the Black Babylonians long after the Cushites set up SUMERIA.  
THE BIBLE states that Asshur Shem was educated in Nimrods Babylon and then set up his cities in the land of Syria today. 
The BIBLE reveals that Asshur Shem was part White, NOT Nimrod, the mighty hunter before the Lord.  
SARGON was indeed half-African but NOT Nimrod. Sargon and his descendants were part of the reason the Sumerians were overthrown. 
Assyrians were very evil and they separated from the Syrians. Your sources have completely White washed the true founders of  
Cush Babylon. 
 

Lol......
There you go relying on the Bible again.
 

Yes Nimrud was the founder of Akkad, because Nimrud and Sargon was the same person.

Also, Sargon and CAIN (Abel's brother) was the same person also.....because the myths were combined.

I don't know about the Syrians but the Caucasian Akkadians overthrew the Black Sumerians who were already in Sumer....true.

The chief Sumerian city in that region was BAB'EL (which means the gate of El ).  Later on the Assyians changed the name to Babylon.
Caucasians have a habit of changing the names of the cities once they conquer and occupy them.....like they did with Salem.

do you believe that the Steppe Pyramid is still here today in Egypt? 
Do you believe the Steppe Pyramid was constructed as many script attest, during the time of Djoser, during the 3rd Dynasty of Egypt? 
If not, then why?  
 

Yes, I do believe the Steppe pyramid is still in Kemet.  But I don't know when it was built and won't even speculate as to when.
 

Chev

 

It's not about rejecting your sources, but it's about confirming them to being truth or not. 
 

So how do we determine whether the source itself is a good one and true or not?

If the source says ANYTHING that turns out to be false (even if it doesn't relate to the subject in reference) then does that mean the source is no longer credible?

ADD to this list the Ethiopian Jews and Eritreans, and many Beja people, etc. TRULY, there is nothing else, no other ancient script source to use that connects Black AFrica to its past and to the SUPREME BEING. Outside of these kinds of ancient script as well as Egyptian script, etc. all there is would be this voting system of America and Europe. There is nothing else. JOHN 3:16. It's either what has been offered to us from above or many will go down to perdition with the very people that enslaved us. Otherwise, there would be no need for the prophecy of the apocalypse. GOD plans to end this world system that we humans have allowed to set up according to prophecy. Just like the servants of the Egyptians during the Exodus, if we agree with the very system that oppressed us, then we will go down with this system when it is ultimately judged.

PIoneer1, according to prophecy, there are only a few pathways to overcome this kind of race hatred going on but if you know of another pathway then, I would like to hear it! 
Fighting against a militant government is not going to work in my opinion.  

Here is the deal........

We don't like how our people are and have been treated by this nation, but for much of our time in this nation we didn't feel we had the power to stop it.  So it's part of normal human psychology to "make sense" of this situation by looking for excuses to JUSTIFY why our people continue to be in the situation they are in.
 

Like if a person get's a serious problem and they break down and cry and ask "what did I do to deserve this"...inferring that it's some sort of Divine punishment why this is happening.  They rarely say it's happening because they weren't strong enough or smart enough to stop it....they don't want to admit that.
 

They lose a child to a terrible disease and say it was a "test" or it was some sort of punishment.....instead of saying they weren't smart enough to come up with the cure for the disease that killed her.

Many if not most people can not mentally tolerate something terrible happening to them or their people regardless as to whether it's their fault or not, so they have to "make sense" of it or believe it's part of some major plan or design.  
And this is where religions and prophecies often come in.  It helps to:
 

a) Give an explanation to people as to why they are in the bad condition they are in.....even if it's a false explanation.  
(Oh...you were made a slave out of as a TEST.   Oh....your people were killed off because they were really "chosen".  Oh......your people are poor in order that they may become "spiritually rich".)
This helps them to "make sense" of their situation....so they think.  
But it really leads to more problems as the same problem continues without resolving itself.

b)  These religions and prophecies usually gives them HOPE that all the pain and misery they're going through will soon end and salvation is right around the corner if they will just "wait" and hold on and be good.

Problem with THIS is......for 400 years a lot of AfroAmericans were born - lived- and dies expecting Jesus to come back and save them, expecting the Caucasian world to end, expecting this and that, and it didn't happen.   Instead the Caucasian continued to rule and Africans continued to be oppressed and one generation after the next saw this but the next kept on believing until THEY died.

This is one of the reasons the Chinese and Cubans were in favor of getting rid of religion all together.
They knew it was used to OPPRESS people by preventing them from rising up and fighting back against the colonizers because most of them would rather stay quiet and wait on "salvation" to save them.

It's getting a little tiring seeing so many grown ass AfroAmerican men getting on national television crying and carrying on.

I understand if you lost a loved one, it's natural to be deeply hurt and cry.
I cried when both of my Parents passed away.

I'm not saying AfroAmerican men should NEVER cry....but there's a time and place for everything.

I'm saying this in reference to so many AfroAmerican men who have been crying on television lately as a reaction to the George Floyd situation as well as the latest shooting in Atlanta.

Mr. Flyod's brother has a right to cry.
Mr. Brook's brother has a right to cry.
But some of these other negroes on the screen weeping and wailing...….

If it  WAS NOT  you or your loved one who experienced the pain and tragedy and you're just some distant relative who barely even knew the person killed but now you're all on television with tissues stuck to your face doing more crying and snotting than the man's own MOTHER.....maybe somebody needs to grab your ass by the collar.

AfroAmerican men getting on television and crying TOO MUCH will often times make them look weak and helpless and invite MORE targeting from the racists.
If they see too many AfroAmerican men crying and acting hopeless instead of  fighting back....it's almost like a green light for them to do more harm.


I can only imagine how men from around the world sit down and look at AfroAmerican men squealing and swaying and rubbing their eyes over being called a "n*gger" or because some Caucasian woman clutched her purse when he got on the elevator.
Crying because somebody looked at them wrong or didn't "treat them right" in a restaurant.
Crying over being a "Black man in America"
Crying over this....crying over that.

You ain't fighting....you're either running away with your pants half-way down your ass or you're crying.
 

How do these other men around the planet see us and think of us?

And what do OUR OWN WOMEN think of us?

Yeah a woman will tell a man he should express his emotions and it's alright to cry, but do MOST women really feel this way and find that attractive?

Too much crying by grown men makes them look immature....LITERALLY immature....like little boys who haven't grown intellectually.
It also makes many of them look emotionally unstable.

Most women don't want to be around a man who is ready to cry at the drop of a hat because she wonders what the hell will he be able to do FOR HER when SHE needs a shoulder to lean on !

Something bad happens in the family and your lady is crying her eyes out and now she's gotta STOP crying and offer YOU some damn tissue and rub your back on because you're doing more weeping and wailing and nose-blowing than HER on live television!

Anger and rage is much more of a masculine trait than crying and being depressed.
When tragedy strikes, most of the time a man will get enraged and become violent while most of the time women will ball up and go to bed and cry.
This is because anger and rage is much more masculine trait than crying.

Nature has made the man as such that when something terrible happens and tragedy strikes his community  he gets ANGRY an ENRAGED to go out and take action and do SOMETHING (even if he doesn't know what to do yet). 

We should all hope that we don't find ourselves in a position that makes us even WANT to cry out of pain; however  I must say I DO see something quite pathological about so many AfroAmerican men on television crying lately.
It's not enough that so many are dressing up in drag and putting on dresses and wigs and calling themselves "trans"  in an effort to no longer be men but instead become women.; but the overwhelming feeling of helplessness and hopelessness to the point that all some can do is cry, is disturbing.
 

Chev


 

you have no source to prove anything. No one would hold you credible when you just go on your beliefs. 

I thought it was well known and established FACT among the scholarly world that most of the Bible is made up of fables and myths from earlier sources.  I didn't know I needed to provide "sources" to prove this, however......…
 

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This leads us to the creation myth that opens the Bible. It is completely different from the two discussed above. 

https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/.premium-where-did-creation-story-come-from-1.5404560

 

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101 Myths of the Bible: How Ancient Scribes Invented Biblical History
 By
Gary Greenberg
 

https://web.csulb.edu/~cwallis/382/readings/160/greenberg.html

 

NO source.

The word "Akkad" is just an English translation of Ahad which means "one" or "first" in Semetic languages.
 

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Akkad is sometimes regarded as the first empire in history.

https://courses.lumenlearning.com/suny-hccc-worldcivilization/chapter/the-akkadian-empire/

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As far as we know, the world's first empire was formed in 2350 B.C.E. by Sargon the Great in Mesopotamia. Sargon's empire was called the Akkadian Empire,
 

https://www.thoughtco.com/which-was-the-worlds-first-empire-121163

 

 

The city of Akkad (capital of the Akkadian Empire) was founded by a man commonly called Sargon (or Nimrud) who was one of the first leaders of the Caucasians AFTER they became civilized.
 

Sargon/Nimrud was also half-African (and half Caucasian).
 

You have no source. 
 

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Senusret I (Middle Egyptian: z-n-wsrt; /siː ni ˈwas.riʔ/) also anglicized as Sesostris 
 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senusret_I

 

APRIL 17, 2350 BC
 

The "2350 BC" is a reasonable date, but the "April 17" part appears questionable because it's based on the Gregorian Calendar which has changed a lot.

Infact, I'm not even sure if the month called "April" even EXISTED that far in the past.
Ofcourse the time-frame it represents existed, but I doubt if it was called "April" that long ago.

((sigh))

 

Chev...…
One of the reasons I don't provide links (sources) to most of what I say is because much of the time people won't believe what you're saying anyway whether you provide a a source for them or not...lol.

I can say Musa was sent to the Caucasus to civilize the Caucasian and provide a PAGE FULL of  links to back that statement up and those who don't believe It and don't WANT to believe it will either ignore those links or provide sources of their own to COUNTER what I just said......so then it becomes a matter of who's "sources" are believed and are more credible.

An example of what I mean...…

I just sourced for you what I said in previous posts...….lol.....so did it help you to believe any of it?

 

Chev

I am only addressing script reference about the apocalypse. This is well recorded in other sources. As I said, many prophecies have already come to past. Many have come to past written byway of Daniel as well within the very context of the TIMES, TIMES, AND HALF OF TIMES prophecy. About 400 years later, the apostle JOHN expounded upon this very prophecy in the Book of REvelations.  

I understand everything you just said.
But the fact is, you're still basically saying that NO.....the time for that prophecy to be fulfilled hasn't arrived yet.
 

That's all I asked, and you seem to have given me the answer.

But you have no source--it's just your belief. Your plan. 
 

I absolutely have sources for what I believe...including the prophecies and predictions (and there's a difference) that I believe have and will take place.

They just are not the Bible....lol.

I have SPECIFIC prophecies about the United States, AfroAmericans,  end of the "world", ect.....

And unlike the Bible which has been misinterpreted and tampered with and uses words like "Babylon" and "Mystery"  "times and a half" which leads to a million different interpretations over centuries of what the heck it's trying to say and mean...…...MY sources use DIRECT and CLEAR words like "United States"  "Black people"   "Sirius Star System"   ect….and some of them even give specific DATES for these events to take place.

However I won't reveal MY sources for 2 reasons:
1. You'd probably reject them anyway.
2.  I don't want to give the Caucasians monitoring this site MORE information for them to gather and use for their system.

Chev

 

LOL. wrong

Wrong?

So to be clear, are you saying that Africans were NOT brought to the Americas by ships?

You have no source and no dates. 

I admit I have no date for this, but I DO have sources.  
However once again, I doubt if you'd trust them or accept them just like you've rejected the OTHER sources I've provided for you.

You believe all script is developed by White people, Greeks, White Caucasian, Romans.
 

Can you provide a QUOTE of me saying that?
I don't recall ever saying anything like that.

It would be a waste of time. 
 

Believing in future events that most likely will never happen because they were based on misunderstandings, mis-interpretations, and flat out lies is an even bigger waste of time....lol.   Perhaps we'd be better off to toss most of the religious books that Caucasians have given us in the trash can and start all over again.

However, I'd STILL like to see the records FROM KEMET that you claim confirm the enslavement of the Israelites.

You said the Egyptians themselves recorded this event so I'd like to see those records if they exist.

You are a clown, Pioneer!. LOL. Black history is a joke to you. 
 

Now that's not nice.
I don't call YOU names...lol.....why do ME that way, simply because you know I'm right and don't like what I'm saying?

A lot of AfroAmericans don't like to leave the Bible or Christianity because they fear they'll have nothing else to believe in or hold on to if they reject it, but the fact is you don't have to replace false beliefs with anything else.....not even true beliefs.
You can simply abandon them and not believe in any of it while continuing to seek the truth until you find it.

Once again, have you conceded that the words (not some "translation" but the actual words)  "Yah"  "Yahweh" and "El" are NOT in the KJV of the Bible as I've been saying for weeks now?
 

Chev

 

it's based on DANIEL, the prophet's vision. So, we are near to it.  
 

In other words, you're saying NO... the time for  that prophecy hasn't arrived yet.
Which means you don't really KNOW if it's true or not.

HE SUPREME BEING is not a man but He gave us free will, free choice.

I know.
Which is why some men CHOOSE to lie and tamper with scriptures and change things around, because they know they can.
Which is why I don't completely trust books, scrolls, and other writings written at the hands of men.

If The SUPREME BEING wants you to know something The SUPREME BEING can and often will tell you directly.
 

Two police men just shot and killed another young man, in Georgia, etc. People are protesting everywhere. In London, White people are protesting against the Black Lives Matter protest. Black American DOS are descendants of Children stolen from Africa. My hearts go out to my people, but we cannot out fight this militant government.

We really don't have to fight the government because AfroAmericans are a major part OF the government.
You see a lot of AfroAmerican police offices standing around with guns and badges...but what are THEY doing?
 

We need to start exercising the power we already have and start thinking for ourselves instead of letting other people tell us how to think, speak, and behave.

No matter, if you don't believe the Hebrew Israelites and Jews were Originally Black AFrican-typed, however, this government believes it and so, this is why we are being attacked. 

AfroAmericans are being attacked because most aren't fighting back.....THAT'S the main reason.
Too many are sitting around waiting for Jesus to come down and fight FOR them instead of defending themselves like most other intelligent people.

If somebody is picking on my son, I'm not going to stand there watching him get his butt whooped by some stranger and say to him,
"Don't worry son.....the only reason he's kicking your butt is because you're MY son and he's knows it and is jealous!"

No!
I'm gonna STEP IN and defend my son and help him win the fight....or atleast protect him from getting his butt whooped!


 

Be prepared, Pioneer1 because this government is in the midst of fulfilling prophecy.
 

Does that prophecy include Yahweh coming to our rescue and destroying White Supremacy?

Because if not, we don't need MORE Africans getting conquered and killed to fulfil some "prophecy".  Enough of that has happened already.

Again, either Yahweh will bring Judgement and Punishment down on these devils or He will not.

I believe Divine Prophecy is being fulfilled too...but not the prophecy of the Bible.

Chev

 

I did @Pioneer1 DEUTERONOMY 28:68. 

Ok.
Now let's look at that verse...…

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And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you.

 

Number one, it says you will be sold to your enemies AND no man shall buy you!
That sounds like a contradiction to me.

How can you be sold if no one buys you?

Second,  Africans were brought to AMERICA by ships....not Egypt.

Number three, this wasn't a prophecy so much as it was  a WARNING of what would happen to them if they did NOT observe all of Yahweh's commandments.

If you read the same book and chapter in verse 15 you find:

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But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee:

Looks like more of a warning than a prophecy, unless the plan was to bring about these curses all along KNOWING the Israelites wouldn't observe the commandments.
 

PROPHECY. This is repetitive in the 3rd/4th Generations. The younger generation of the Exodus came forth, but most of the older generations were still clinging to Egypt and so, they remained in Rephidim and died out. PROPHECY again shows these very odds.

No sis, this isn't prophecy...lol.

When the Caucasians were being led through the desert on their way to attack Kenaani cities they weren't told of their TRUE origins as cave-men from the mountains.  
They were told that they were slaves in Egypt and that they were punished to have to "wander" through the desert for 40 years to explain why they knew nothing of Egypt.

 DID!!! I absolutely detailed this during a discussion back some time. Pioneer1, you don't believe in script confirmation

I don't remember you presenting any Kemetic documents.  Just Biblical documents that didn't come from Kemet.

You said the Kemites THEMSELVES record the Israelites being enslaved there for 400 years....I'd like to see THOSE records.

Lol.....
I supposed you've GIVEN UP trying to find the words "Yah"  "Yahweh"  or "El" in the KJV Bible, huh?
 

Chev

 Yunus is NOT a Greek name, it's origin is JAPHETH and stems from Black Babylonian script. 
 

How can the origin be "Japheth" when the letter "J" wasn't even in existence 1000 years ago?

Be careful in assuming the Babylonians were "Black" because at one point the Caucasians took over that area.
The Sumerians were Black but the Akkadians were Caucasian.

 

 No. The ancient Egyptians and Sumerians were NOT Caucasian
 

?????
 

No. The KKK was NOT founded in China.
No. The moon is NOT made of cheese.
And No. You should NOT use hot sauce as a disinfectant

Ok, YOUR TURN again.....lol.

LOL! No it was not! Nineveh goes way back to the time of ASSHUR--Assyria and so does the Akkadians. You format is totally White Supremacist. You give credit for  
ancient Black achievements over to White people.  
 

You're using the Biblical timetable to determine "what" came after "what" and this is a big mistake because the Bible is a compilation of various myths, fables, and folk tales from many older sources so you can't always rely on what you read in it.

First Musa came to civilize and organize the Caucasians and LATER after they started making progress and came out of the mountains they began to form cities along the Euphrates River.

The first city was AKKAD (which means "one" or "first") and then Niveveh, ect.....as they oozed further down the river towards the gulf.

 The root 'Sus' does not begin with Greeks and Romans but goes all the way back to the earliest of times... SESOSTRIS, e
 

Sesostris is clearly a GREEK rendering of that Pharaoh's name.
Just like Osiris is the GREEK rendering of the Kemetic Ausar and Issis is the GREEK rendering of the Kemetic Auset.
 

You just made a much better presentation than I have!


BTW...…
I saw an interview of Spike Lee who refers to 45 as "Agent Orange".....lol.

Troy

This rejection of the "AfroAmerican" identity on the part of the brothers and sisters born in Jamaica or Puerto Rico or Haiti is as a result of IGNORANCE.

If they were properly educated then they would realize that Jamaica, Puerto Ricao, Haiti and all of the other nations in the Western Hemisphere ARE part of "America".

...which makes them AfroAmericans just like US if they had slave ancestry!

I can get them to see the light in about 5 minutes, lol.

Quote

 

Statue of Robert E. Lee gets a makeover with Pride Flag and 'BLM' sign

 

 

 

 

 

 

Activists in Richmond, Virginia, projected the image of a pride flag and 'BLM' on a Confederate statue there Friday night in support of black LGBTQ+ rights.

The statue of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee has been the site of many protests since the death of George Floyd and is the same one currently in legal limbo after the governor's order to remove it was met with a lawsuit.

After multiple protests, the statue has been covered in multicolor spray paint with phrases like "Black Lives Matter" and "Stop White Supremacy."

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/13/us/richmond-robert-e-lee-statue-trnd/index.html

 

Troy

But this term is not very accurate because every person in America or who has every lived here is of African ancestry. Am I wrong?
 

I'm not sure.
I think you're saying that based on the "out of Africa" evolutionary theory that claims everyone on the planet are descendants of humans who first evolved and came out of Africa.

As you know I don't believe in the theory of Evolution nor do I even believe early humanity came OUT of Africa.
To the contrary, I believe a portion of humanity actually migrated INTO Africa.
 

One of the good things about the term Afro-American is it clearly defines us as being American.  A point I think is very important to make, because too many of our people see themselves as "outsiders" in a nation they helped to build.
 

Chev

This hurts. And on that note!-- The news just broke today that there were two Black men found hanging from a tree! 
The law initially ruled it as suicide, but now they are re-looking at it. 
I am depressed about this! 
 

I heard about this from a tweet by Tariq Nasheed.

AfroAmericans have been steadily losing ground in California since the 1970s and to make things worse after the mid-90s when Central American Meztizos became an overwhelming majority in that state they've been victims of VIOLENCE both in the neighborhoods and in the prisons/jails from not only Caucasians but their Meztizo allies.

We don't know WHO did the lynching's of these two brothers but we can't put it PAST racist Mexicans who have been attacking AfroAmericans for decades now at the behest of the Caucasian racists who sanctioned them and deputized them to do so.

Some AfroAmericans are fighting back, but I'm not sure how effective AfroAmericans will be when they are so overwhelmed with Caucasians and Meztizos who clearly hate them and are working against their every move not just legally and economically but even PHYSICALLY.....with the shootings, beatings, and lynchings.

Infact, it has worked so well in California that Caucasians are importing more and more racist so-called "illegal" Latinos into the country and SPREADING THEM into other communities in the Midwest and East Coast to target and try to displace well established AfroAmerican and AfroLatino communities.
You go to parts of Chicago and New York that USED TO BE mostly Puerto Rican and now you find crowds of Mexicans and Salvadorians living there....staring at you and wondering why you're in "their" neighborhoods.
 

I personally think AfroAmericans need to just straight up get the hell OUT of California (and Washington and Oregon too) and leave it to the Caucasians and Meztizos and East Asians to fight over.   

AfroAmericans who still live in Cali should just count their losses, charge them to the game, and LEAVE so that that state can just drop in the ocean as it's been predicted.

We should focus on populating and establishing strong economic foundations in the rest of the nation.
 

….feels funny being "off the block" and in a different neighborhood (forum), lol.


 

Troy
 

I don't believe there is term that perfectly describes all the brown people of African descent, who are American citizens, that everyone would embrace. @Pioneer1 likes "Afro-American," to me that sounds antiquated, like "Negro."

The focus shouldn't be how it "sounds" so much as how ACCURATE it is.
 

I don't exactly LOVE the sound of "AfroAmerican" myself because like many people have said it reminds them of an "afro" hair-style....lol.

But Black isn't accurate, because it's an actual color that most of our people don't fit the descrition of (especially if you're light skinndeded).

Negro is no better than "Black" as it's just the Espanol version of the term.

African American isn't very accurate either because it's a term best reserved for those born on the continent of Africa who MIGRATE to the United States and become citizens.

But Afro-American means we are Americans with African ancestry and encapsulates all of the various shades and features of our people regardless of religious or cultural background because we all come from the same experience.

But the discussion we're having is another reason why Neely Fuller said we should MAKE UP OUR OWN definitions, to avoid confusion.

 

Madihah S.

Since you aren't registered on this site I'm not sure if you can read the link at the bottom of my posts so check this out:

https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/6593-pioneer1s-glossary/
 

It's a little glossary of mine and may offer more insight as to how I see race, culture, and ethnicity and how we as a group should refer to ourselves.
 

Chev

 

 I understand!!! Many people do not understand the PROPHECY OF THE APOCALYPSE-- time, times and a half = 1000 + 1000 + 500 = 2500 years! 
I understand how prophecy was not understood back then as well as today! 
 

Now what makes you think YOUR understanding is the correct one?

It seems to me, the only way to find out is if YOUR understanding of the prophecy actually comes true!

Now, has that 2500 year time period you speak of arrived yet?

 

YES it came from God, however, mankind is not perfect. 
 

If mankind isn't perfect then that means those scriptures touched BY mankind may not be perfect either!

Until there is a division 'based on prophecy' of the WHEAT from the TARES, White Supremacy can never be dealt with. The Church must be judged first.  
 

Lol, now WAIT A MINUTE sis...…
 

You keep throwing everybody in the way to be "judged first" except the White Supremacists!
 

First you said the Black man who abandoned the Black woman must be judged BEFORE we get to the Caucasians!

Then you said the Black leaders who slept with White women must be judged BEFORE we get to the Caucasian leaders and kingdoms!

Then you said the Church must be judged first BEFORE we get the Caucasians!
 

Now you're saying there must be this big SEPARATION and weeding out  process BEFORE the judgement comes......as if God can't clearly see who is doing what ALREADY and punish them!

You're throwing everybody out there first BEFORE those who committed the GREATEST crimes in history!!!!!!
 

It seems that according to what you're saying the White Supremacist are either getting a PASS to continue to do whatever the hell they want to do OR they get to stand in the BACK of the "Judgement line" and have a good time watching OTHER PEOPLE get judged before it's their turn!
 

Either way, your version doesn't seem very fair to me.
 

Either the God you believe in is going to Judge these devils are not.
 

Pioneer, this evil has been going on for thousands of years and even though it may not seem fair, however, in order to understand this reality, then we have to look at the beginning of the set up of GOVERNMENTS. Based on prophecy, GOD judges GOVERNMENTS every 3-to-4 generations and this is the key point and the focus.

See, here we go again.........lol
 

So instead of judging THAT kingdom for what IT did, you're telling me that ANOTHER kingdom several generations down will get the punishment and judgement instead!
Is that fair?

The grand daddy was a liar, drunk, rapist, and murderer.....and get to die a sweet painless death in his sleep at 96 years old.
But the grand CHILD is born blind or with palsy because of what the grand daddy did????

Nooooooooo!

I don't think that's fair, righteous, or even from God!

I think MAN made that mess up to justify and explain why seemingly bad things often happened to innocent people.

They couldn't say the child was just born blind....because.
They had to BLAME IT on somebody.....either the child or the father or someone else.


I also think ISRAELITE LEADERS made up that "judged for 3 generations down"  thing up to explain why THEY were getting their butts whooped by outside forces or natural disasters they couldn't explain.
For example...

Just like the Israelites STOLE the cities of Kenaan and justified it by CLAIMING the Kenaani were being "Judged" by God for their wickedness.....when the Assyrians came through with a bigger army and whooped THEIR ass they had to explain it by CLAIMING that THEY were being judged too!

And when the people questioned that explanation and said they did everything correctly  and that it was unfair that they were being defeated by the unbelieving Assyrians who served a different god, the Israelite leaders had to come up with ANOTHER explanation to satisfy the people talking about,  "Well...well....yeah YOU did everything right but your FATHERS sinned and that's what you're being judged for!".







Sista, pull up a chair and let me explain something to you...…...…...…


Do you want to know what a REAL "sin" is?

BEING STUPID.

Not being smart enough to build strong infrastructure and prepare for an Earthquake or Hurricane

So when that Earthquake or Hurricane hits your island and kills over half the men, women, and children......don't say "God" did it as judgment but just say you weren't smart enough to build buildings strong enough to withstand it!

If you are defeated by an enemy don't say they won because you "sinned".
Say they won because they were smarter and had better weapons or more numbers!

And this is how African people around the planet should start thinking!

They should STOP thinking they are cursed or condemned or being judged because of some sort of "sin" that Ham or some other ancestor committed and realize that the REAL curse is being stupid and not smart enough to protect yourself from malicious Caucasians who have waged war against them.

And then beg The SUPREME BEING to make us smarter and stronger and more successful!

While taking action to help ourselves as best we can.

Instead of sitting around reading the Bible and waiting on Jesus to touch down and make the Earth shake.
 

Chev

YES @Pioneer1 I would suppose if you consider scripts written by Hebrews, that it would be considered HEBREW SCRIPT in that sense, but I was referring to your reference of HEBREW ALPHABET and language script. 
 

So if a Hebrew script DOES exist, then that means that there IS a such thing as an Original Hebrew Bible....regardless as to it's legitimacy origin.

No way.  
 

Oh yes..........

It has. The Trans-atlantic Slave Ship Era prophecy has come to pass!
 

I'd like for you to show me that EXACT prophecy or script so that I may examine it, please.



 

YES. Seljuks sons are as follows: Michael, Israel, Jonas, and Moses--- Mikhail, Yisrael, Yunus and Musa 
YES. it is an accurate historical description of the very same men that were the sons of SEljuk.  
 

Well, my question is what did THEY actually call THEMSELVES!

Did they call THEMSELVES Michael and Moses?
Or did they call THEMSELVES Mikhail or Musa?
 

Because if they called THEMSELVES Mikhail or Musa but the historians who write ABOUT THEM called them "Michael" and "Moses"........that's different than THEM calling themselves "Michael" and "Moses".

Do you understand what I'm saying?

Because those wouldn't be their actual names but again...another TRANSLATION of their names by English speaking authors.
 

In other words, YOU may call yourself Chevdove but if SOMEONE ELSE is writing about you 200 years from now and call you "Chivdive" because they couldn't properly pronounce your name....that's not on you but on them!



But I'll tell you something sis...….
It's one thing to translate a conversation, but why does one have to translate a NAME and change the sounds of it?
Why does "Chevdove" have to be translated to a different word if I'm talking to a Chinese or  Russian?

I believe when you change the sound of the name it's NO LONGER THAT NAME and it's not just a translation but probably done for the purposes of DECEPTION by the Caucasians who will to deceive.
 

There is NO REASON to change the name Yahweh to "The Lord" except for the purposes of deception!

There is NO REASON to change the name Yahshuah to "Jesus" except to DECEIVE people!

Those names aren't hard to pronounce!
The only reasons they were changed was to DECEIVE people and re-write history to confuse people.

 

and so like you, many Black African people over here in America will continue to believe White Supremacist in that Seljuk was a White man as he has been depicted in films, etc. 
 

I don't recall ever saying what race I believe Seljuk was.

this younger generation will accept the truth about  the BLACK OPPRESSION of the Hebrew Israelites. 
 

Why do you say that?
What makes THIS generation any better or even different than the other generations that came before them?

Black folks were calling themselves Israelites and "chosen people" 50 and 60 years ago.

Some were walking around with turbans on their heads, writing in Hebrew script, and others even went to Israel and established a plot of land in Palestine called Dimona!

Guess what?
Caucasians are still incharge over in Israel just like in the United States.

 

ABSOLUTELY! MOSES is well documented in Egyptian records during the time of the plagues. 
 

Splendid!
Since it's WELL documented, I'm sure you wouldn't mind showing me some of the Kemetic documents confirming that a group of people called Israelites were enslaved in Kemet for 400 years!
 

Chev

 

Again, you need to take script much farther back beyond NINEVEH and GREEK and ARABIC to the Cuneiform script of the Black AFrican scribes 
of CHALDEA. JAPHETH--YAPHETH is the origin of YUNUH not Nineveh or Greek or Arabic. 
  

Japheth is the origin of the Greek word JUPITER....but not Yunuh.
However, judging by your above statement I think we can BOTH agree that "YUNUS" is't the original name but rather "Yunuh" or "Yunah" is.

We're making progress!

Jonah, the Hebrew is dated at the height of NINEVEH -- 600s BC 
MOSES the Hebrew is dated almost 1000 years prior. 
NINEVEH and the depictions you show are of ASSYRIANS meaning Ash-Shur--WHITE SYRIANS. 
 

Perhaps you're correct, but we need to be careful with these "dates" because most of them are given to us by Caucasian archeologists for the purposes of CONFUSION.  They'll change them around every 20 or 30 years claiming to find more "evidence".
 

Nineveh wasn't established BEFORE Moses but AFTER Moses because it was one of the first cities that Caucasians established after tumbling down out of the mountains.

  
Again, YUNUS is the name of one of the sons of the Great Seljuk of the time of the Crusades.    
 

No disageement here.
However keep in mind that the Seljuks were MUSLIM and many Muslims name themselves with names they read in the Koran just like a lot of CHRISTIANS name themselves and their children from the names they read in the Bible.
And since the Arabs wrote the Koran the Arabs got the name "Yunus" from the Greeks and Romans who brought Christianity to them.

If you look at the word "Yunus".

The "-us" on the end of it is a SURE SIGN that it's not an original Hebrew, Aramaic, or Kemetic name because that Greeks and Romans would add "us" on the end of names like "JesUS",  "PontiUS"  "HerodotUS".  And since they got the word "YunUS" from the Greeks instead of the Jews....many of them name themselves "Yunus" instead of "Yunuh".

Chev

First of all thank you for that lesson in history, and allow me to return the favor by sharing some history with you!
 

This may sound a little confusing to you, but let me try to break it down...…
 

Yunus is just the GREEK and ARABIC translation of the Hebrew word "Yunah".
It's also translated as "Jonah" in the KJV Bible.  The prophet who supposedly was sent to Nineveh.
 

Remember when I said that Musa was sent from Kemet to the Caucasus mountains to civilize the savage Caucasians?

He didn't go by himself but he went with a "crew" of people and when they first arrived they didn't stay with the people directly....it was too dangerous and at that time the Caucasians didn't have houses....they lived in caves for shelter.  So they stayed on ships until they could build safe shelter for themselves.
They would leave the ship and go up on land in scooba diving outfits, and this made them look like FISHES.
Most Caucasian couldn't swim at that time so seeing men swimming was strange to them.
 

It's been said that among the crew was THE REAL Yunah and that he was one of Musa's assistants.

Him (and others) coming up on shore looked...to the savages....like a big fishs washing up on shore and regurgitating men .  And THIS is where you get the myth of Jonah being in the belly of a fish and washing up on shore.

You can also read about this in the story of Dagon, Apkalu, Oannes (another variation of Yunus) , ect....by the ancient Akadians.

Again, Yunus is just the Greek and Arabic rendering of Yunah.

It's also where you get the European name "John" from.
 

Chev

 

The Egyptian records detail Hebrew Israelite captivity! 
Ancient records of, not only Egypt, but other ancient civilizations, exactly match the Bible record
 

Well, can you present those "records" FROM EGYPT that claim Israelites were in bondage there?

Your reference was about PHarisees, Saducees, etc. mixed race people that formed a Jewish Nation sponsored by Rome to oppress the Original Jews. They claimed to have never been in captivity. That is like Barack Obama saying that he has never been a part of the Trans-Atlantic Slave culture!!! That would be true. Although he has been elected to be president of America as 'an African American', Obama's father and mother are NOT African American DOS!!! Pioneer, those Pharisees went against Jesus. You are using the Bible to support a lie.  
 

The Pharisees were of the SAME RACE as the Jews, just of a different ethnicity.
The Pharisees were Persians but both them and the Jews were Caucasian for the most part.

The Persians TOOK OVER Babylon while the Jews were allegedly in captivity there.

Saducees were Jews also and of the same race as the rest of the Jews but just had religious differences.


 

Well, maybe you need to do the same, and look back at history about the African kings on the throne smooching on white women, because their half-bred sons were born and soon ruled over black lands, and then they too smootched on white women and soon, blacks were overthrown and this is a repeated process!!! 
 

OK, so THIS is how you believe the African kingdoms were overthrown.

It doesn't seem very probably, but perhaps you're correct.

No. There is no such Hebrew Script. the source you presented is not factual. HEBREW ALPHABET is completely based on OLD PHOENICEAN ALPHABET!!!
 

You're contradicting yourself.

First you say it DOESN'T EXIST, and then you say IT IS  BASED ON SOMETHING THAT EXISTED EARLIER.
.....which means it DOES exist but comes from another source!

That's like saying there's no food in the house.......because the food in the house is not yours but belongs to your roommate.
The two statements contradict eachother.

So which is it?

Does the Hebrew script NOT exist; or does it DO EXIST but comes from earlier script?

As far as the word YAH and JAH, they are a description of the same! So what is your reasons for saying that YAH is not a part of the King James version, after I showed you that JAH is in the KJV. I don't understand the point that you are trying to make? 
 

My point on THIS particular example you gave is that "Jah" is not "Yah".    
Just like jello is not yellow...changing from "j" to "y" makes it a different word.

It may be a TRANSLATION of "Yah" (and a poor translation because the sounds are different) but it's not the same.
And this is part of my greater point that "Yah, Yahweh, and El" are NOT in the KJV;  you only find various TRANSLATIONS of these words....not the words themselves.

We have to constantly update script to ensure that translations are adequate. But there is no such thing as authentic script from any ancient script source. 

Well, if this is the case then what's the purpose of putting your faith in ANY of it?
 

Like Plato or the Oddessy, it's nothing more than poetry or literature not to be taken seriously or Divinely since you can't find the AUTHENTIC script or source of it!

If it was from God it would stand the test of time and wouldn't get lost and cause so many arguments and so much confusion.
We don't have to argue over whether the sun or moon exists or not...they are up there for ALL of those with sight to see......no argument.
But when it comes to these so-called "holy scripts" people have to wrestle and tussle and roll around with eachother for thousands of years over who's got the truth and who doesn't.
 

et me also expound: In one book written thousands of years ago, the name of Noah is written as 'NOAH', but thousands of years later in another book in the Bible [KJV], his name was written AS 'NOE'. Pioneer, both are accurate but stem from different languages and different language script. Both name-words 'NOAH' and 'NOE' are a description of the same man!!!--the same historical account of a time of a great deluge. 
 

There's a difference between spelling the SAME WORD differently (like Noah instead of Noe) , and using DIFFERENT WORDS entirely (Like God instead of Yahweh).

Yah and Yahweh can be spelled as Yaa or Yaaway, but as long as it's PRONOUNCED the same way it's usually understood to be the same word for the same name in Hebrew.
 

But when you change it from Yah to JAH...it's not even pronounced the same way so it CAN'T be the same name or same word!
 

The original name for the man known as Jesus was Yahshuah.    They purposely changed it and mis-translate it so that you WOULDN'T know his original name and would start saying "Jee-zus" which is a slick way of saying "Hail Zeus".

This is why it's important to keep the origional SOUND of the name even if you change the actual letters in English because you may be calling on an entirely different god all together THINKING you're calling on a particular one!

Chev

Yes, well I guess that when the recording was released to the public, this made the difference. It's a wonder what goes on behind the camera! 
 

This is one of the reasons the television shows "Cops" and "Live PD" were pulled off the air recently.

Many of their critics argued that they didn't give very accurate descriptions of active law enforcement and the shows were HEAVILY edited to make it look like all of the soldiers were good and always did the right thing in warfare.  They got rid of all footage that may have made the soldiers look bad or corrupt.

YOU'VE got to be kidding! No way. really!? 
 

Absolutely!
You know how negroes LOVE to party and have a good time despite having more pressing responsibilities.....lol.
By our nature we are a fun loving people, so as soon as the pressure APPEARS to be off and the coast is clear a lot of our people are more than ready to start dancing and popping their fingers, while Caucasians are plotting and planning their next move.
 

Covid 19 2.0  ???

Well, I understand. Yes, he's the one. He was heard on tape requesting that GEorge Floyd be turned on his side. AND, he was very knew to the police force and that devil was his training officer, yet, he asked for GEorge Floyd to be turned on his side. But then, WHAT ABOUT THE BROTHER!? 
WELL, at first I did not think he was black or had no black in him, but some people think Kueng, the other officer might be at least part-Black! 
If Thomas Lane was bailed then, what about Kueng? This officer, like Lane, was also very new to the police force. And he also protested!!! 
He said, YOU SHOULD NOT DO THIS, to that devil. And, he also later said that he was raised in Minneapolis by a single parent and wanted to do  
something good for his community. So now, will people allow him to sit in jail while Thomas Lane was bailed out!? I would not agree to that. 
 

Not sure what the deal is but ALL of those race-soldiers who were kneeling on Floyd (I saw 3) should still be in jail awaiting their trial.
No, bail.
 

They are TRAINED KILLERS with weapons and pose a danger to the community.