I have a VERY strong suspicion that many if not MOST of these recent (and past) mass shootings of AfroAmericans are NOT being committed by other AfroAmericans!

There have been multiple eye witnesses who have claimed that Caucasians in cars and trucks have been driving by shooting up groups of AfroAmericans while they were out protesting or having block parties and other gatherings.  Especially when you have them in urban areas like Chicago with cameras all over the place yet there police seem to not be able to find any suspects.

I'm not saying all are, but many are.

Which is why I'm so hard on so many AfroAmericans being naïve and ignorant and ignoring their surroundings while busy bullshitting on facebook and Instagram.

Seriously...….
I understand why a lot of our WOMEN do this because most women are very social and communicative by nature and love chatting with eachother, but why so many grown ass AfroAmerican MEN are walking around in flip-flops texting eachother and giggling on the phone like little girl while White Supremacists in tattoos are riding around in these big muscle-trucks with guns.....is beyond me.

Then when something happens or a child is killed, they are on television with tissues stuck to their nose crying and acting EVEN MORE like women than the women standing next to them.  The sister has to stop crying herself just to rub THIS fools back and tell HIM it's gonna be OK.  

Anyway...….
 

We need to begin to wonder how big of a role White Supremacists ARE playing and HAVE played in these high AfroAmerican homicide rates.


If you notice, these multiple shootings began to increase and got a lot of attention in the media RIGHT AFTER there were calls to defund or dismantle the police departments and hold them more accountable!

As far as I'm concerned, this is just more evidence if not proof that WE as AfroAmericans should start policing our own communities and protecting ourselves since we can't rely on the government to do it adequately.
Which....by the way.....will lead to another battle of the current Civil War I've been speaking of.
Much of the fighting AfroAmericans will engage in will be with EACHOTHER as we go into the inner cities and clean up the MESS that White Supremacy has made of many of our people.   Many of them are MONSTERS (literally) and will not be allowed into the New World.

I can,t find  the name of the  man who made the prediction .But he did say Trump would win and a Great Depression would follow

Well if he did, that's not much of a prediction because a Great Depression is ALREADY HERE and it was here BEFORE Trump took office.
Trump and Covid 19 just made an already existant Great Depression EVEN GREATER.

Before Trump took office, and even before Obama took office........a large percentage of Americans (especially AfroAmericans) were out of work, homeless, and living in destitute conditions.  They manipulate the figured but atleast 25% of the working age population of the United States is NOT working for one reason or another which is beyond the Great Depression figures of the 30s which was around 20%.

And even among those who ARE working, less than 40% are making enough to actually support themselves and most must get help or live with other people and pool their incomes together to make ends meet.

It used to be that ONE PERSON could support the entire household.....or atleast themselves....with ONE INCOME.
Now most people have to shack up and live with somebody (boyfriend, mother, cousin, friends, ect…) and fight and argue with eachother over the bills because neither one is making enough to be truly independent.

Besides having more social programs to help people today, there are only 2 major reasons why the Great Depression of the 1930s SEEMED more severe than the current economic Depresssion of  today which is actually MORE severe:
 

1. Unlike the 30s where the poor were allowed to lay around on the streets and line up at soup kitchens, the policy since Reagan is to LOCK UP many of the poor and destitute and get them off the streets and into the prisons where they aren't seen.
Plus a lot more people commit suicide now than in the 1930s.
 

2. They have smuggled in MILLIONS of illegal immigrants from Latin America and Asia into the United States to fill up the gaps and keep the system going while millions of Americans have dropped OUT of the system because of drugs, imprisonment, homelessness and other reasons.

If they hadn't imported so many doctors and nurses into America from foreign nations, many of the hospitals in America would COLLAPSE because too many Americans are on drugs and too jacked-up mentally to properly care for sick people.
 

Troy

The white folks running around did not create racism. Sure they benefit from it and to perpetuate it but many white people unknowingly. 

True on all counts, the question I have is HOW MANY of that "many White people" actually practice and perpetuate the racism that their ancestors established unknowingly, versus those who know full well what they're doing and merely PRETEND not to?

 

Which vaccine would that be? 

Nearly all of them.
But for just one example....

It's been pretty well established that the MMR vaccine that most children in the United States have been getting for decades is one of the main culprits for the skyrocketing autism rates in AfroAmerican males.

Dude that is what the Brother did; he realted newspaper accounts of the perputrators. 

Lol.....
He's standing IN FRONT of the perputrators!

Again, many of us have the naive notion that racists exist somewhere in the PAST or if they are around today are way off in a swap somewhere or in a trailer park and only come out of their hole a couple times a year to fly Confederate flags at NASCAR races.

The fact that the REAL racist threat comes from many of those same EDUCATED Caucasians who are in positions of power and authority (professors, doctors, senators, scientists, officers, ect....) who are sitting infront of him smiling and winking as he lectures THEM seems to be beyond his comprehension.
 

Again, that entire evening would have been MUCH more productive (for him and us) if he had invited the Caucasians who were in the audience to come up and share THEIR personal observations of how racism has been perpetrated against AfroAmericans......while he shut up, listened, and took notes.

We would have watched one Caucasian after another get up before the microphone and explained how their brother or uncle or mother-in-law committed some racist deed that harmed AfroAmericans and contributed to systemic racism.

Things that make you say:

"Ah...so THAT'S how they were able to red-line entire neighborhoods!"

"Ohhhh…..so THAT'S how they trick so many young AfroAmerican men into signing plea bargains!"

That would be a TRUE lecture and educational explanation of racism.
Not some stretch-eyed brother standing infront of Caucasians looking silly as hell as he attempts to lecture THEM on something they've already mastered.


 

Lol.....
Man are you serious?

Do you really believe someone needs to "explain" racism to the actual AUTHORS of it?
 

This  highly degreed negro standing before an audience full of Caucasians tossing his hands around and bucking his eyes  trying to "explain" racism to them is almost as SILLY as a Rabbi going to a Skinhead rally and lecturing them on the cruelty of anti-Semitism.
 

I said "almost" because most Jewish Rabbis have better sense than to attempt something so foolish, but most educated negroes DON'T and will try it on a routing basis.  Just like Henry Louis Gates was silly enough to sit down and have a beer with a racist who assaulted him and arrested him in his own home.

Let me touch on a few of his points:

First of all I don't know WHAT he's talking about when he mentions "Jonestown" in 1619 at the 7:30 minute mark.
Maybe he meant Jamestown because Jonestown is in Guyana and was the site of the Jim Jones Massacare.

Second, he doesn't know his history very well because the first slaves weren't brought to the United States from Africa in 1619 but were brought the Carribean in 1555 FIRST where they were de-civilized before being brought to the United States.

The one thing he did that I actually DID like was how he quoted Dr. King at the 1 hour mark about how the riots were meant to shock White America because they were more concerned about the abuse of property than over the abuse of human lives.

But if anything, instead of thinking he's so smart that he can stand before a room full of Caucasians and lecture THEM about an institution THEY established....he should sit his ass down and ask THEM to explain racism and how it works while he shuts up and listens.

-Let a woman in the front row tell him how her brother is a private contractor in Afganistan who comes home for Christmas and brags about how many brown people in Afganistan and Iraq he's killed this year.

-Let a doctor in the back row stand up and tell him a story of how he helps develop vaccines that are race/genetic specific to target people with excessive melanin to make them sicker.

That would be a REAL lecture and explaination of racism.

You get knowledge and understanding on a subject from the EXPERTS of it....not the VICTIMS of it.

How can a DEAD MAN tell you by what method he was murdered?

Only the one who was successful in murdering him can do that job.
 

Troy

 Whether they are actively planning an armed race war is debatable.  
  Why? The mental race war has been quite effective thus far.  

"Planning"???????  LMBAO

Although I talk about a Civl War, to be clear....
As far as White Supremacy has been concerned there has only been ONE WAR on this planet for the past 4000 years.

Ever since the Caucasians were civilized and led out of the caves (around 2000 B.C.) they have declared WAR on the rest of humanity and the various historical events that you read about in terms of violence are just various BATTLES in that same ongoing war.

However, like you said the MENTAL  aspect is the most common and also most effective FACET of that multi-faceted war.

When that doesn't work, THEN they get violent.

Like Don Corleone and other gangsters, they first try to trick you, fool you, or buy you off; but if that doesn't work THEN they send in the goons.....lol.

When I use the term "Civil War" I use it as a term most people can understand to describe a more overt operation in which armed White Supremacists OPENLY begin killing people in the streets with disregard to the current laws.  Which they have begun to do more and more for the past few weeks.
However the good news is....like I said, the vast majority of their victims WILL NOT BE AFROAMERICANS.
The vast vast majority will be other Caucasians....THEN Latinos.

The reasons for this is again, they will WANT to kill AfroAmericans but the Caucasians who are REALLY in power will not allow them to and that's when the HUGE battles will take place placing Caucasian against Caucasian.
 

And now HE'S out...………………

 

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George Floyd death: Former Minneapolis police officer Tou Thao released from jail

 

 

 

MINNEAPOLIS — One of the former Minneapolis police officers involved in the death of George Floyd on May 25 was released from jail Saturday, according to Hennepin County jail records.

Tao Thao, 34, posted $750,000 bail and was released from jail shortly after 11 a.m. Saturday, the Star-Tribune of Minneapolis reported. Thao had been held on $1 million bail with no conditions or $750,000 bail with conditions, the newspaper reported.

Thao was one of the officers present when fellow Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin knelt on Floyd’s neck for nearly nine minutes. He is the third former police officer to be released.

 

 

 

 

https://www.kiro7.com/news/trending/george-floyd-death-former-minneapolis-police-officer-tou-thao-released-jail/G3B2QKFK75HJTN4RONERDOZ62U/

 

She's a TOOL of the Republican Branch of White Supremacy.
And like most female tools of White Supremacy, her greatest assets aren't her intellectual abilities (which she certainly has) but her PHYSICAL attributes.
 

She's pretty (in a dainty sort of way) and feminine which most men find attractive despite their race or political ideology.  Her charm is used to OVERRIDE the intellect of most heterosexual men and disarm them into being easy on her during debates and arguments.

If you notice, most of the time Conservative MEN look like stir-fried shit....lol.  
But most Conservative WOMEN are attractive, nicely built, and alluringly dressed.  

This is no accident.

It's psychology.

Few heterosexual men desire to seriously fight with women or find themselves disagreeing with them on a routine, especially ones they find attractive.
Because deep down in a man's subconscious he knows that as long as he doesn't piss her off too much there is a chance she MAY sleep with him....LOL.
…..and the White Supremacists know this psychology, which is why they carefully choose attractive women to deliver their message.

Look at how most of the women dress on Fox News.
 

What message are they trying to deliver?
Because it CERTAINLY isn't the news....lol.

 

Chev

Oh! And she was so sharp on her response about Dave Chappelle. LOL. Gotta to keep our Black clowns...

I hope you all see the pun...

She said what she said because she's smart enough NOT to get into a back-n-forth or beef with a PROFESSIONAL COMEDIAN.

The power to make people laugh....especially at the expense of others....isn't a power that should be underestimated.
There are adults who STILL suffer psychologically from being made fun of and laughed at when they were children.

Like many professional comedians, Dave has the power to ridicule her and have the American people laughing at her ass for YEARS with a few good lines.
She knows this and doesn't want to take the bait.
 

Chev

Chev, WHY do you continue to question me on religious matters when you KNOW you're not going to like what I say and will go to war over it?

Lol, we already know where this is headed, but...…


BUT @Pioneer1 Does it matter? The Church was set up NOT by the 'Black Church'. More to the point, Black America never owned "the Church" in the first place, like anyone, they had a choice to conform to this system, and so, the question for me would be; Did the Black Church conform to the Church or did they conform to something else?  

I'm not sure if the Black Church was set up BY Caucasians or if Caucasians ALLOWED AfroAmericans (who often try to imitate Caucasians) to set it up themselves under their supervision, but for sure it WAS and IS operating under the approval of the White Supremacists and serves there purpose which is why you need a LICENSE.   If you've noticed or researched, nearly every time there was a revolt or rebellion by AfroAmericans in this nation the Black Church is the FIRST tool they use to quell it and calm the negroes down.  If that doesn't work then they bring out the weaponry.

There have been notable exceptions to the rule but for the most part the Black Church operates in partnership with White Supremacy by instilling into the minds of AfroAmericans while they are children the idea of a Caucasian Savior and Angels and also with the understanding that they would help keep AfroAmericans content in their contemporary  conditions of oppression by telling them that after death they will receive their "reward" or "crown of glory".

It has been a bit modified under the name of "prosperity preaching" lately in order to capture those who don't want to wait on death, but it still operates under the same principles.
 

Chev

He was definitely a prophet. He wrote prophesies.  

?????
What were some of his prophecies?

You speak against written, published works of over 2000 years ago, of a man, who was highly degreed and also severely persecuted for the Word of God, and you speak with no reference. 

There are many references to Paul being a Roman agent who's purpose was to gain the trust of the Jews of that time in order to influence them and the new Messianic Movement many of them were participating in.

One of those references can be found in the Bible in HIS very own words.

In 1st Corinthians Ch. 9 we read Paul saying:

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For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more.
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And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law;
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To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law.
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To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.

 

Here he ADMITS that he assumed various identities to gain the trust of various peoples to fit his agenda.

Are you sure you want to call a man like that a "Prophet" or man of God?

He didn't even get along with one of Yashua's disciples Simeon (Peter)  who insisted that new members keep the laws of Judaism while Paul wanted to relax them. 
 

Schtever

  

What is your name, if you don't mind?
 

DeAngelo,  "D" for short.

You posted " . . .with racists being deputized to shoot people but.......": Again, facts matter, and I see you avoiding this in the context of my mentioning Floyd. 
 

I'm not sure what facts you're speaking of exactly, but I noticed that in one of your stats you wrote:

"90% killed BRANDISHED A GUN (a few percent usually brandished another weapon) "
 

I'm curious as to what does "brandish" a gun means.

Are these men "brandishing" guns?

and I would also like you to tell why Floyd and not Calvin Munerlyn deserves a hero's status:
 

He doesn't, in my opinion.
He doesn't deserve hero status, nor did he deserve to be tortured to death over a fake $20 bill.

It is my understanding that the job of law enforcment is to APPREHEND the suspect and possibly detain them until they can be tried, sentences and/or released.....not executed in the street without judge, jury, or appeal.

I asked you do you believe that there ARE actual incidents where innocent AfroAmerican citizens were killed by Caucasian police officers because of racism; and could you give me a couple of examples.
You said:

"to answer, in Atlanta a young black man was clearly running away unarmed from police, he was shot in the back.  And nobody in my family and circle of friends (friends being from conservative to far left and including an former aid and friend a to Al Franken) supported this as justified, it was murder."
 

I just want to make sure, is THIS one of your examples?

Are you saying that you believe Rayshard Brooks' being shot in Atlanta was a racist murder by Caucasian officers?
 

Well here's a fact for you........

In 2006 the  F.B.I. issued a memo that police departments around the nation were being infiltrated by White Supremacists

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3439212-FBI-White-Supremacist-Infiltration-of-Law.html 

I'm not sure where the data and statistics you presented to us come from, but mine comes DIRECTLY from the highest law enforcment department in the land - (F.B.I.).
 

Given this fact, wouldn't it be a little naive for us NOT to presume that many if not most of these law enforcement killings were RACIALLY MOTIVATED given the fact that there is documented infiltration by racists?
 

BTW, I'm guessing you posted twice because you didn't see your first post after sending it; but because you haven't registered to this site there is a time delay between the time you post to the time it get's approved and you see it, which could be many hours.
If you don't want this delay you might want to register an account so you can post in real-time and also be able to delete/edit mistakes.
 

Troy

True, but and most of us, like me, just ignore the information. 

That is because most people....like you....aren't looking to gather personal information on people for the purposes of harming them or subjegating them.

But the White Supremacists are.

Despite all the talk of conspiracies and conspiracy theories in the AfroAmerican community, most of our people don't take them seriously; but if you listen to right-wing talk shows you'll discover that many Caucasians DO believe in government conspiracies.

Why the difference?

Because most Caucasians know THEIR OWN people better than most AfroAmericans do, and KNOW the wickedness and evil they are capable of.....all while wearing big smiles on their faces.

Schever

Lol, not sure what any of what you wrote had to do with racists being deputized to shoot people but........

"Schtever" is an interesting name, what is it's origin?

Also, do you believe that there ARE incidents where innocent AfroAmerican citizens are killed by Caucasian police officers because of racism?

If you do, can you give me a couple of examples?

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Posted June 18 Pioneer1 said:

 

Those in power have known for over 100 years that the United States would have a 2nd Civl War because much of it is being orchestrated by them.    
I don't know the complete details of it but I believe these alt-right milita groups will be deputized by the various state governments and possibly even the Federal government....but their main targets will actually be other Caucasians.

Actually the powers-that-be in this nation will HELP AfroAmericans to get power but the average Caucasian citizens will not like that and will want to fight them over it.
The reasons why is because the powers-that-be ( also known as the elite, 1%, ect…..) KNOW that we as AfroAmericans are destined to be on top and rule because this is what has been predicted in most of their Secret Societies, but the average Caucasian DOESN'T know this and will become angry and confused about what is happening

 

 

https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/6597-afroamerican-men-crying-on-televison/

 

 

 

Today we read:

A Florida sheriff said he will deputize lawful gun owners if protests turn violent

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/02/us/florida-sheriff-deputize-gun-owners-trnd/index.html

Now....obviously this one sheriff in one small county doesn't equate to a full fledge Civil War breaking out, but this is a CLEAR EXAMPLE of what's beginning to happen.
It has ALREADY started and I've warned you all that this is NOT a game!

While some of our people are bullshitting on Instagram and getting high and pretending that everything is cool, there are people who are planning and plotting their very destruction and/or RE-enslavement.
 

Troy

Yeah, I was so focused on her clear domination in terms of wit and articulation that I paid little attention to the attire and body language.   

I wasn't  actually WATCHING the interview for the most part but  just listening to it while attending to other business but the way he was dressed and slouching in his chair -

You have to wonder when he accepted the invitation to appear on her show, did he naively think he was just going to have a casual conversation about current Black issues with a "smart sista"  rather than realizing that he was being invited into a lion's den by a tool of racist conservatism who's job was to crush everything  him and his idealogy stood for...lol.
 

Troy

My statement wasn't meant to be a criticizm of the process.   Just offering a POSSIBLE explanation as to why some people are reluctant to actually register.

But like you said, most people offer social media FAR more personal information than what is asked for here.

I still don't "get" the attraction of sharing your identity, nearly all of your personal information, and your daily activities and whereabouts all over the internet for everyone to see.
Some people see it as some sort of virtue.
 

FAS

Excuse me. My last post on the subject - Dr. King did not choose anybody. It was the NAACP who chose Rosa Parks. Dr. King was a reluctant leader, i.e., he was thrust into history. He did not seek it.

Perhaps you're right as to WHO decided not to use an unwed teenaged mother.  It's history and I wasn't around to verify exactly who decided what.

My point is it was a STRATEGIC move on the part of organizers so that the focus would be on the MOVEMENT and not on the moral short-comings of the victims.

AfroAmerican organizers of today could take a lesson from our ancestors and do the same.
 

Troy

if folks like FAS and Queenx created or used their accounts it would make things so much simpler -- I have to manually approve their posts, which is a pain really. 

Having to register is a CONSPIRACY!!!

Lol........
 

Years ago I remember on most discussion boards when you could just assume an identity and post under it.  The most they would do was post your IP address as a form of identification but other than that you could just hop on a site and start posting.  Then after 9/11 more and more sites started forcing people to register and give their e-mail address and other personal information.  
At first I resisted it but after a while when nearly ALL sites started demanding that you register before posting I decided if I wanted to share my views on any subject I may as well go ahead.  But still to this day.....as you already know...I try to share as little of my personal information on the internet as possible.

FAS

I was not looking for a long, drawn-out, deflecting, one upmanship series of back and forth posts.  
 

Well let me know when you are, lol.

Not interested in all day every day half a dozen or two topics navel-gazing. 
 

Lol...
Maybe you have a lot more going on in your everyday world than I do so you don't have the time that I have to exchange ideas and opinions  with other AfroAmericans.  It's just something I love doing.
Some people love swapping pictures on Instagram or tweeting bullshit all day, I love talking politics and social issues.

Black America has only one institution, the Black Church, and it is not devoted to feeding wild, sell-out dogs so that white people won't snatch them up and turn them against us. 

Actually HAD would be a better word to use, because the "Black Church" no longer belongs to "Black America".  That ended in the G.W. Bush Administeration under the Faith Based Initiative that basically PAID OFF AfroAmerican churchs with tax-breaks, grants, and other deals as long as they stayed out of politics.

In my opinion, the "Black Church" would be a bigger if not better example of "selling out" than even Candace.

Troy

AfroAmericans didn't control the murders (well....indirectly, we actually did.....but that's a different story) however our REACTION to them is largely under our control.

Ofcourse they control the narrative in so many ways, but when it comes to speaking and holding public rallies where we have the vast majority of freedom and control over what comes out of our mouths and what we choose to talk about too many of us don't take advantage of that particular opportunity to control the narrative and instead let the media dictate to us what we should be concerned with and focused on.

I can tell you right now.....this "dismantle the police"....movement is another TRICK that is being used to try and make AfroAmerican activists and protesters look like idiots. 
Now the IDEA (because they aren't serious about it) is being tossed around mostly by Caucasians on the Left, but they're going to try to pin it on AfroAmerican protesters.....that THEY want to "get rid" of the police when all they've been calling for was for them to merely stop being racist and implement reform.

I did not know Floyd committed an armed home invasion (did I mis-hear Candice?).  Sure I can agree that Floyd is not the poster child for model behavior, but again we did not choose him as the cause celebre.  So he is the guy.   

I've read similar stories about Floyd and his ALLEGED (because he's not here to say whether any of this is true or not)  criminal history.  
Although his alleged past actions  didn't justify his execution in the street like that......we should still be more strategic  and choose more sympathetic examples to hold before the world as examples of police abuse and racist violence.

You're fighting for prison reform and demand an end to the abuse and inhumane treatment of prisoners.
But you don't go to a prison and point to a child molester who just got beat up as an example of  abuse and inhumane treatment.
Ideally, you would find a person who could play more to the sympathy of the public.
Someone the public would actually FEEL SORRY for, not someone who half the population would felt deserved to be beat up.
 

Dr. Martin Luther King was smart enough (he DID have a doctorate in philosophy)  to know that choosing a 15 year old unwedded mother to base the Civil Rights movement around would have been a mistake in judgement because of how the public would have received her and judged her character.  This was one of the major reasons he chose ROSA PARKS as the example instead.
We can and we need to be far more strategic in our battle.

BTW......
Candace OWNED the shit out of Marc in this interview, lol.

I know this is her show but, she is totally controlling the direction of the conversation on nearly every point and seems to be keeping him on the defensive.

Look at the 41 minute mark (shakes head) and especially at the 1:06 minute mark where she straight MAN-HANDLES him on the transgender confusion.

Her delivery is far more straight forward, concise, and articulate.....while Marc is all over the damn map and can barely make his point on any subject.

Don't get me wrong......
Marc is smart obviously, but he's not very articulate in my opinion.  He stutters too much and it makes him look like he's on the defensive.
 

Candice strikes me as genuinely sincere, sort of like Thomas Sowell. I've read several of Sowell's books and he helped me think about race in ways that you would not normally if you only listened to the left.  I found it interesting that Candice referenced Sowell.  I did not get the impression that Marc knew who Sowell was. 

Well she certainly sounds more genuine than say a Larry Elder or Jesse Lee Peterson....lol....who say such outrageous things that you know even THEY don't believe in half the shit they're saying.  I've studied a bit of Sowell's work and not only did he articulate many conservative points but if you've ever listen to Mr. Sowell speak, he reminds me a lot of Malcolm X in his grammar and cadence.

Check out some of his interviews with William F. Buckley on Firing Line.

I believe that back in the day most of the earlier (1970s-1990s) AfroAmerican conservatives WERE sincere in their beliefs.   They tended to be more inclined to the Booker T. Washington self reliant attitude of taking responsibility for our own upliftment instead of waiting on Caucasians for help.   Today however, things are so partisan that Conservative ideology must take a back-seat to PARTY LOYALTY and most AfroAmerican conservatives are expected to just tow the Republican Party line and support whoever is running for office.   The positive ideals of Conservatism have gotten lost in this current era of Trump-wor  cult-worship.....lol.
 

The thing that both Sowell and Owens seem to miss is that white folks don't play fair

You're right.

And neither do other ethnic groups.

When you look at the behavior of most immigrant groups who come to the United States, they OPENLY practice residential segregation and practice racism when it comes to marrying, hiring their own, and other socio-economic matters.
 

Sometimes I wonder if these Republican Conservatives that I see on television are human clones.

Whether it's Candace Owens, Gretchen Carlson, or Megyn Kelly....despite their race  they all seem to have that artificial "look" about them and run their mouths in a hollow fashion that seem as if they are on automatic.....lol.

Love her or hate her Candace DOES bring up some good points (especially when it comes to Black Lives Matter)  that racists have used to justify the brutality of race-soldiers.
 

I think we should learn to be more "strategic" when it comes to picking our battles of who to fight hard for and hit the streets over.

I've said for weeks now that it would have been MUCH better for us to have centered our movements and focus around the Breonna Taylor case than that of Rayshard Brooks or even George Floyd.

None of their deaths were justified, however Breonna's case was CRYSTAL CLEAR.
She didn't have a criminal record, wasn't under the influence, and didn't resist or pose any sort of threat in any way what so ever so that leaves the racists totally disarmed from a moral and ethical point of view in the jury of public opinion.
 

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Rayshard Brooks: Accused officer bailed despite widow's plea

 

 

A judge has granted bail for an ex-Atlanta police officer charged with killing an African-American man in a restaurant car park earlier this month.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53244425

 

Here we go...…..

Chev

Yes, this is scary, but I believe you.

Do you know what's REALLY scary?

The fact that these past couple months many  AfroAmericans have clearly SEEN what works!
They have SEEN that getting out in them streets and raising hell WORKS in getting us respect and getting things accomplished......

Yet despite seeing what works, some have decided to go back home and lay on the couch....with the joint in their hand.....smoking dope and talkikng shit on twitter or instagram.

This is reference to being 'IN THE LORD'!!! You need to refer to the BACK UP SCRIPTURES--the other scripture that expounds upon this scripture--as the BIBLE IS BASED SOLELY ON CONFIRMATION OF SCRIPT within the entire Books of the Bible. All of the prophets confirm each other!!! 

But Paul (Saul)  wasn't a prophet.
He was most likely a Roman agent paid to infiltrate the Messianic movement of that region and "divert" it to what you see today.

So if you love MAMMON--WEALTH, GAIN BY ANY MEANS, you will eventually loathe honest PRINCIPLES, honesty, Black people [even if your Black], gain by merit, etc. GOD'S PATHWAY--TRUTH. 

If your principle IS to gain wealth....and you love wealth.....then you're being TRUE to your principles.

Different people have different principles; and for some....honesty and justice isn't one of them.
 

FAS

If you have an account you should post under it.  
It says you posted this Monday but I didn't see it yesterday or I would have responded sooner.

While it doesn't say "you MUST turn down more money...." it begs the question of is a lot of extra money worth more than one's principles.... which determine the fate of one's soul

It looks as if you canceled out your own example saving me the trouble, because the example you gave doesn't place any demands on the individual....it simply asks them to weigh their options and as if to make a choice. 
However to YOUR question concering money over princples........
 

It depends on what your principles ACTUALLY ARE.
If your principles.....like many people's....revolve AROUND making a lot of money and accumulating wealth (rather than being honest, having integrity, being courageous, ect….), then accumulating lots of money at all cost IS a principle of yours and doesn't contradict your principles at all but fullfills them.

So unless your momma raised you to be a prostitute, a large salary with perks is no recommendation for pursuing a career as a sell-out and whore. 

This may sound like a shocking thing to say, but I have NO PROBLEM with prostitution (having sex for benefits)  or whoredom (being highly promiscuous) in and of themselves.   However I admit that my morality isn't linked to the Abrahamic religions or traditional Western morality.

The only time these actions become problems....in my opinion....is if they are FORCED.

As for treated properly by us... again, we are not the captains of our fate, the masters of our soul, i.e., we are incapable - we lack the resources, we lack the institutions - we are incapable of  treating each other 'properly', monetarily, like white folk are. 

Lol, I noticed that after you made that bold statement you QUALIFIED the end of it with  "like white folks are".
 

Ofcourse we currently don't have the wealth and power they have to bestow upon our people.  However we aren't totally destitute either.  AfroAmericans have a measure of wealth, power, and influence....especially when compared to Africans in other parts of the world.
It's not the LACK of it that's the problem....it's the MISUSE of those institutions, monies, and resources that is the biggest problem!
 

Do you need an "institution" to pay a young man who routinely shovels your snow or protects you from being robbed in the neighborhood $400 or $500 as a token of your appreciation....instead of assuming he "should" be doing it?

Does 5 or 6 AfroAmerican men and women on a police force REALLY lack the resources to organize a program to train self defense classes in the AfroAmerican section of the city their serve in?

One of our greatest resources is our MINDS as AfrroAmericans, but many of our people fail to use them in an effort to build our own institutions and generate our own resources...and instead wait on Caucasians to provide them to us.

So while you're correct  -when you qualify the statement-  that we don't have the institutions and resources that Caucasians have to treat our people as well as they should be treated......but we CERTAINLY have enough to do a whole lot better than what we're doing.

Chev

ut I believe Omarosa, in that this Movement to start a Race Riots is/was the plan way back when due to the 2001 Twin Towers attack.

Omarosa said this?
I didn't know that; I'll have to look into this much deeper.

I don't find the idea ridiculous because as I said in another thread it appears that many in the media feel that they can make AfroAmericans react or be silent based on how much air-time they give certain racist acts.

Although both were horrible, the Breonna Taylor killing was much more violent than what happened to George Floyd....yet Breonna's murder didn't cause the massive amount of rioting and protests that George's did.  The only reasons I can conclude for this is it wasn't on tape and the media didn't air it over and over again manipulating the anger of the public.

However, going to Omarosa's point.......
If this is true and they (the media) knows how to MANIPULATE AfroAmericans and stir them up when they get ready....that is disturbing.
 

Chev

I deal with the kind of Black men 'in the act' of harming Black women and children, though, but I understand too the White Supremacist Movement behind this.

In the act of harming them !?!

Are you in Law Enforcement or a Social Worker?
 

That sister in the bar wasn't tripping.
She wasn't over reacting and being unnecessarily hostile, her concern about this racist INTENTIONALLY spreading this mess was REAL!

Look at this report:

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Woman who intentionally coughed in baby's face wanted for assault, California police say

San Jose police said the suspect appeared to be upset that the mother was not "maintaining proper social distancing" and coughed on the 1-year-old.

 

The San Jose Police Department said in a press release that the suspect "was upset the female was not maintaining proper social distancing, so the suspect removed her face mask, got close to the baby’s face, and coughed 2-3 times." She then left the store.

The incident was caught on video and released by the police department. It shows the mother standing in line with the stroller between her and the suspect.

The mother, Mireya Mora, told NBC Bay Area that the woman made a racist comment to her at the store. Mora is Hispanic and the suspect is apparently white.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/woman-who-intentionally-coughed-baby-s-face-wanted-assault-california-n1231889