Pioneer1

 

 

 

 

Oh, I forgot to add.......there have been other women....actually more...who OFFERED to have sex with me for helping them AFTER I actually helped them (and yes I took some of them up on their offer....lol) than those I NEGOTIATED sex with for my help.

I've helped men AND women.

When I help men, they feel that I've done them a favor so they offer me other favors.
Some offer money, other offer to buy me some liquor, others help me in other ways.

When I help women, they often offer me other favors too but a lot of women feel like the best way to "reward" a man is with their body.
Help her son with his homework or with some trouble with other kids,  fix her car or sink,  help her fill out an application, give her a ride to work....she often will OFFER a man sex.

Not every woman....but many of them.

But again, we want a NEW SOCIETY built on TRUST and TRUTH.
Not one build on a foundation of lies, hypocrisy, and perversion.


The people can SEE what's going on despite what you TELL them or read to them out of some so-called "holy book".

A man can quote scripture all day long but if they see that man sneaking women into his house in the middle of the afternoon for "counselling sessions" for hours at a time while his wife is at work or see pictures of him on-line wearing lipstick and earrings in drag......they know he's full of shit.

ProfD

 

Considering what LeBron James does on the basketball court, I don't see someone who a coach can control or manipulate or influence. As a supremely gifted and talented athlete, he makes the team successful.

 

Considering that he was TRADED from Orlando to Clevland to Los Angeles.....it tells me that he doesn't have the control over himself that you may THINK he has.
Whoever is TRADING him for money and power is the one who is really in control.
 

 

 

 

Folks are hired based on their ability to do a job and fired when they are incapable. That's why folks have to walk in the door with certain credentials. No need to control or manipulate or influence them. That's why they get paid.
 

PAYING them is a form of control in and of itself.

Outside of that, setting certain limits on them and giving them missions to accomplish and work to be done means that whoever is giving it to them has a measure of control and influence over them.
They didn't hire THEMSELVES...someone hired them.
Whoever hired them can fire them....those people have control and influence.
 

Control and influence aren't ABSOLUTE.
There are degrees and levels of it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

frankster

 

 

The Racist....who have been misinformed and miseducated

 

Ok, thanks for clarifying what you meant.
However I would question whether or not most racists have been "misinformed" or "miseducated".

Some racists are HIGHLY educated and informed, which is why they have so much power in society and control over people.

 

Agreed they do not look like a failed state.....They cannot exist without the immense support of the US.

As I said, they don't look like a "failed state" to me regardless as to who is supporting them.
I'm not arguing the reasons for it, I'm focused on stating the OBVIOUSNESS of it.

 

 

 

 

Black African and African American progress being loved or like by the US Government.

 

Well....
Ask Obama, the first AfroAmerican President.

Ask Kamala Harris, the AfroAmerican VP

Ask the thousands of Black Congressmen, Senators, and Mayors whether or not the U.S. government can love or like them.

 

 

 

 

Yes and the Right behaviour in any given situation is correct behavior...The correct Behavior is a Moral and Ethical one.

 

You're correct on the first statement.....lol...but not so much on the 2nd.

Morals and ethics aren't always "correct" because they differ from one person to the next.

You have YOUR morals and ethics.....that's obvious...and I have mine.

 

 

 

Conscience almost always informs of of the wrongness or rightness of any action

Conscience it can be said is embedded in all living things....whether they obey it or not is their Free Will.

 

What about people who DON'T have a conscience, like a psychopath?

 

See, this is the problem when religion is involved....

Somebody...perhaps a parent or maybe preacher told you that "everyone" has a conscience to tell them right from wrong.

Science tells you that NO....not everyone does.

So now we disagree with eachother because you're "sure" of one thing while I'm "sure" of the opposite.

 

 

 

Not True she is coming to you for help...

 

It IS true because she had other resources at her disposal that she COULD have used if she wanted to.

1. I wasn't the ONLY one who could help her with writing a resume and filling out applications for certain programs.
Infact, in some cases (there was more than one) the people they were living with could have helped them do it.

2. Filling out applications and doing resumes aren't a basic necessity.
It's to achieve benefit....yes....but not necessarily for food, clothing, shelter, or healthcare.

As I said, these women wanted something and were WILLING to exchange sex for it.

 

 

 

You thought she was attractive and thought to bed her whilst hold the ability to fill out the resume in question....that's threatening

 

"Threatening" to who?
Certainly not her....who WILLINGLY engaged in it.

As stated earlier, they had a CHOICE to either do it with me or do it with someone else.

 

 

 

 

She needed your help....its not a fair exchange

 

Slight correction....she WANTED my help.
She didn't "need" it.
As stated several times before, there were other people they could have went to.

 

And EVEN IF her options were limited....what's wrong with her using her sexuality to fullfill a NEED?

Are you suggesting that she should she just "do without"?

 

 

 

You took advantage of someone in need.

 

No, as I said before I took advantage of the opportunity.
And would GLADLY do so again and again.

 

Secondly, as I've said twice already they WANTED my help....they didn't NEED it.

 

 

 

 

The Moral thing to do is court her

 

According to YOUR morals....because YOU are coming from a Biblical/Christian traditionalist point of view.

There is little evidence that YOUR morals provide the best example for AfroAmerican success because our community has TRIED them already and they've led to massive failure.

 

The Biblical style of courting and marriage usually leads to FAILURE for AfroAmericans.

 

 

 

 

 

.....Not dangle or use your helping her as a silent threat of denial in response to her denial if she should decide to deny you.

 

Another correction:
There was no "silent threat"...I made it CLEAR in some cases that if you don't have sex with me, I'm not helping your ass...lol.

 

CRYSTAL CLEAR.

If you don't like me, cool....go find someone else.
Free society.

 

I support CRYSTAL CLARITY...not assumptions, lies, and false expectations.

In all businesses, I make sure the exchanges are CRYSTAL CLEAR.
No room for misunderstandings.

 

 

 

 

 

You court...Not trade

 

No.....YOU court.
That's not my religion.

 

You practice YOUR religion if you like, but don't impose it on others.

 

 

 

 

To trade Goods or Services in exchange for sex is Prostitution.

 

Correct.
And I support it 100%...in concept.

I don't support it in practicality because it's illegal.

Which I think is WRONG and totally disagree with.

 

 

 

..... it is Corrupting and exploitive - for all involved.

 

What's you PROOF of this?
...besides your own Western-influenced concepts of sex and marriage?

There are MANY WOMEN who have made a good living being prostitutes....more than who have washing dishes or being secretaries.

 

In the U.S. prostitution is ILLEGAL and there is more child abuse, rape, transgenderism and other forms of perversion and abuse than other nations where prostitution between men and women are LEGAL.

So again....PROVE what you say about prostitution being corrupting and exploitive.

 

Also, what's your definition of "exploitation"?
Does it only apply to sex?

 

Seems to me you'd be more infavor of an ANTI-SEX Black Theocracy instead of a Progressive Black Nation....lol.

 

 

 

 

 

A guest in their country even if you are a Citizen.

 

If I had it MY WAY or OUR WAY the land we buy would be OUR LAND and no longer legally under their jurisdiction so we would be full fledged CITIZENS...not merely guests.

 

 

 

Politicians and Huge white run MultiNational Corporations.

 

?????
What was your purpose of mentioning them?

 

 

 

 

Yes they Rich or wealthy

I am not rich like them are you?

 

Not yet....lol.
But we can get there if we follow certain steps.

 

 

 

 

I am against most forms of exploitation.

 

You SAY that, but I'm not sure if you are...

1. If you haven't already can you DEFINE exploitation.

2. Depending on your definition, how would you get workers to WORK for you and BUILD your society if you don't plan to use them to a certain extent?

Also, you say MOST......but not all.
What forms of exploitation are you NOT against?



I can tell you clearly, I'm NOT trying to build a community based on Biblical or Western-Christian ideology and their PERVERTED rules of sex, diet, and other forms of so-called morality.

Their society was built on LIES and HYPOCRISY.
The same preachers telling YOU not to have sex, were running around having sex with everyone in the choir, in the congregation, and screwing as many women as they could get their hands on.
 

I believe following THEIR way is one of the reasons our community is in the shape it's in today.

That old way CLEARLY didn't work and is not working for most of us, so we need a NEW form of morals and ethic to build our society on.
 

On 12/7/2023 at 9:54 PM, ProfD said:

 

Southern Black folks are conditioned from birth to either avoid or know how to deal with racists when encountered. 

 

Yeah.....
While a lot of Black folks up Noth are conditioned to RUN from them, especially when they have a uniform and a badge.
...and still end up getting locked up by the thousands.

Let's go to New York, D.C. Detroit, Chicago, or Philly and you tell  me how much of a fight these young niccaz have been putting up against the racists.....lol.

BTW........we didn't consider D.C. and Baltimore traditional "Northern" cities.
They are Eastcoast in terms of architecture but in term of culture and the way people talk and interact, there is a very strong Southern vibe.

When I would interact with my cousins from D.C. they would refer to people as "Miss So-n-So" a lot.

 

Apparently some crazy young "sista" tried to burn down Dr. Martin Luther King's childhood home down in Atlanta.

 

 

MLK house vandalism: Woman tried pouring gasoline on childhood home (usatoday.com)



I haven't looked much into the story yet but I'm telling people right now, I BET it's going to come out that she was influenced by some crazy shit she heard and read over the internet about MLK being a "communist" or working with the "illuminati".

I'm willing to bet MONEY that this is what sent her over the edge.

For a couple of years now I've gotten into it with other Black folks over the internet who sat up and listened to some of these right-wing Trump-supporting websites who's only job is to go around trying to bash Black heroes and smear their reputations.
They go around accusing Marcus Garvey of this....Malcolm X of that....Martin L.King of this.

A few of them had claimed that Martin L. King was sent to "communist school" as a kid and then sent out to the Black community as an agent of the USSR in order to help destroy the nation.

And a lot of Black folks even BELEIVE this shit!

I'm willing to wager that this "sista" was heavily influenced by this propaganda.
Wait until it comes out.....

Man, I haven't watched a Presidential debate since Obama was running....lol.

I didn't see a need for it, all they do is sit up and tell lies.
And when it comes to Republican debates.....they try to "out nazi" eachother with their extremist right-wing views.


Even most of the American public is starting to catch on now.
The ONLY purpose it serves is for entertainment.....especially when Trump is on the panel...lol.

No Trump.....no entertainment.

That's why many of them are talking about ENDING the RNC debates if Trump doesn't show up to them.

And speaking of Trump, they've already pretty much made their mind up that HE will be the next Republican nominee unless something major happens.
So why even waste time with these little welter-weights?

Perhaps they are jocking for who will be Trumps RUNNING mate.
If that's the case, I think Nikki Hailey probably has the best chance out of the bunch. 

ProfD

 

Now what does that say about US?

That we invent so much and then just ABANDON it?
 

I've known old Black women down South who made such good food.
Didn't even have a recipe book.
Made it from scratch by looking at it and measuring it with intuition.

But when they were asked to write down the recipe or atleast teach it to their daughters...they refused to do so.
Took the recipe to their graves.

 

For what?

 

Same with dance moves and other arts.

When I was a kid in school one of the things that bothered me was how PROUD some Black kids were to teach White boys how to dance or how to "mack" on girls.
They wouldn't teach other Black boys what they knew.

If another Black boy was "lame" enough to even ask them how to do a dance or get a honey....they'd CLOWN on him and tell him.

But a White boy?
They'd take him under their wing and show him everything they know.

 

 

 

 

 

Troy

 

Little Richard was not only gay but he was FLAMBOYANTLY gay....lol.

I think THAT....more so than his race...contributed to him not getting the popularity and shine that he deserved.

You put him on live television and there's no telling what he might have said or done.

HIs shows had spin-offs after spin-offs....lol.

I think Maud was a spin-off of All In The Family.
The Jeffersons was a spin-off of All In The Family.
Esther Roll and John Amos played in Maud and later got together for Good Times.

I'm not going to lie, I LOVE those old shows.

They were more "real" with their social commentary than a lot of the shit we see on television (if you even watch it) today.

They were talking about the President, saying "nigga", addressing the most controversial issues of the time....openly.

And they had LIVE STUDIO AUDIENCES who added to the entertainment.

 

On 12/7/2023 at 9:41 PM, ProfD said:

Every group of people has their dysfunctional.

 

The question to ask yourself is why don't you know about them. It's definitely not because they don't exist.

 

Spend some time in the backwoods or trailer parks of America or paying the same level of attention to others. You'll see their warts too.

That's my point......
They keep it in the closet or in the backwoods.

They have sense enough to HIDE their dysfunctional people.
A lot of our people tend to EMBRACE our dysfunctional and welcome them into our families and circles.
Put the fool all on television and in music videos and call it "keeping it real".

frankster

 

 

Both Black People and white people are more likely to accept or believe it when coming from a whiteman...

 

You got a point there.....lol.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jesus did not do that either....we do not understand the science involve and the rules governing his abilities.

 

We're (unless you had a personal experience with him) not sure if the Jesus of the Bible even EXISTED, much less the abilities attributed to him in the Bible.

I'm not saying he didn't.
I'm saying we simply don't know for sure one way or the other.

 

However if he did, even of HIM the question would be asked why were the Roman authorities allowed to kill him if only temporarily?

True power tends to RULE...not get driven out of town, arrested, and even killed by the government.

 

 

 

 

 

Sickness and diseases has been here since the beginning.... It is said that as long as there is Sin....

Then sickness and calamities will continue to plague the human family...Romans 6:23

I don't believe in that.

HEALTH was here since the "beginning" because humans were Created healthy.
Sickness and disease came afterward.
 

I believe sickness and disease is for the most part a result of IGNORANCE.
 

Your nephew died of cancer...not because he was evil or your faith was being "tested".
He died because you were IGNORANT of the cause of it or it's cure.
If you knew how to cure him....you would have.

There are many diseases people died of in the past that they know longer die of because they now have the treatment or cure for them.

Our people need to come out of religious superstition and into the light of KNOWLEDGE.

ProfD

 

Leadership is not about controlling people. It is recognizing their talent, knowledge, skills and abilities and empowering them to fulfill their potential and enrich themselves while accomplishing the mission. 

Facts....to a certain degree.
But whether you call it CONTROLING or MANIPULATING or INFLUENCING people......
Call it whatever you like, but if you can't manage to get people to do what you WANT them to do to a certain degree, you aren't very likely to be too successful.

Much success depends on dealing with people well enough to get what you want and need from them.

 

 

 

A winning coach is an example of leadership. Same goes for the CEO of a successful company.

 

Facts.
They have learned the art of controlling/manipulating/influencing people in a way that is constructive and productive...for them atleast.

 

A coach CONTROLS and INFLUENCES his player and gets them to behave the way he wants.

A CEO  CONTROLS and INFLUENCES his or her employees and gets them to do what he or she wants.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

frankster

 

Again Wisdom has nothing to do with skin color or race/ethnicity.

So when you said:

Quote

"Full of Book Knowledge but no Wisdom....Dangerous and Self-Destructive."

 

Who were you referring to?

 

 

Israel is a failed state....it only exist because the West constantly support and defend them.

 

But they exist.
And they're wealthy.
And they're powerful.

I'm not sure of their future, but they don't look "failed"....not right now.

 

 

 

Exactly and setting yourself apart will only further aggravate the situation.

 

Do you have evidence to support this, or is it an assumption based on altruistic sympathies?

In other words, do you have any laws or religious scriptures to support your beliefs that people shouldn't "set themselves apart" from others in the society?
Or do you believe it because it just doesn't "seem right" to you that AfroAmericans with wealth and connections should go to a foreign nation and demand high status?

 

 

 

I have no problem with that.....but the US Government may.

 

The "US Government" isn't just one single individual but consists of MILLIONS of people with their own views and agendas.

Some may have a problem with it...others may LOVE it and have been waiting on an opportunity to help us achieve it.

 

 

 

Righteousness is Goodness.

 

Righteousness is CORRECTNESS.

The "right answer" is the "CORRECT answer".....regardless as to how one feels about it.
 

"Goodness" if often very subjective for most people, especially based on religion and upbringing.

What YOU consider "good" may not be my definition.

 

 

 

There was no opportunity there....only you had an advantage

 

Correction: Both of us had the "advantage".
 

She had the advantage of being highly attractive to me (and me to her).
I had the advantage of knowing how to fill out resumes properly.

 

It wasn't one sided, it was a FAIR EXCHANGE between two consenting adults.

 

Is a wealthy man who chooses a poor wife he finds highly attractive "taking advantage" of her?
 

 

 

 

Then you failed to understand....when you poor and needy you do not know that you have options or choices - You accept what's offered.

 

So then help me understand, what's your point.........

-Poor people or people in need shouldn't have sex?

-Poor people shouldn't have sex to improve their financial situation?

-Or do you believe it's alright to have sex just for fun or make babies, but to actually use it to get something you NEED is "wrong" in your opinion?

 

 

 

 

 

It is abuse when one uses the neediness of others to secure an advantage to benefit from

Ooooh ok...

So you believe getting benefits from people who are in need is abusive?  Hmmm........

So charging poor people for food is abuse?

So when doctors and hospitals charge accident victims and sick people money for medications, surgeries, and other treatments...they're "taking advantage" of them in their time of need?

Just want to be clear on your position here.

 

 

 

 

Yes that is true of some Africans and the vis versa is equally true....be yourself but remember you are a guest in their house.

 

Not if we OWN part of the house.

If we buy land and build factories...then we own THAT PORTION of the land.

That would be the agreement.
No "renting" but OWNERSHIP.

 

 

 

Who Commands the US Military????

Who does the US Military Obey??

 

Us....when we're organized and involve ourselves politically in this country after recognizing that it's OUR COUNTRY.
 

 

 

Are you worth Billions, control or have influence over thousands of US voters and teams of Lawyers, Lobbyist  and Marketers on your payroll

 

I don't, but there are a few Black folks who DO...like Oprah and Magic Johnson.

And we'd get many many more if we'd realize our TRUE potential.

Investing in Africa...I believe....will get us their VERY quickly.

Or would you rather let the Whites and Asians continue buying up land and exploiting the people instead?

If any "foreigners" get land in Africa.....I would rather it be the descendants of the formerly enslaved Africans who were kidnapped from there.

What I want to know is whatever happened to SAUL TURTLETAUB...lol.

That name used to tikle me when it came on during the opening theme to Sanford and Son...lol.

I'll tell you EXACTLY where a lot of the inspiration for a lot of our good funny shows of the 70s came from....

 

England!

 

Sanford and Son got a lot of their material from a British show out of the 40s and 50s called  "Steptoe and Son".

And All In The Family (Archie Bunker) got most of their material form another British show out of the 50s and 60s called "Till Death Do Us Part".

They ripped off Steptoe and Son BIG TIME....lol.

I started watching the British version and actually started to like it.
Believe it or not, both British shows were more edgy and politically sharp than the Americanized versions.

I was looking at some of the comments I made years ago and I find it satisfying and slightly amazing at how "consistent" I am in my perspectives and personal observations.

I agree with myself 100%...lol.

Sometimes when someone digs up an old thread and I read something I said years ago before reading  "who" posted it.....I start nodding and agreeing with it and wondering WHO that brother is dropping science like that.
Then look over and discover it was one of MY old posts 

ProfD

 

Otherwise, people from any race, color, creed or ethnicity are capable of doing something strange for some change. 

 
Facts.
However we also have to look at the PERCENTAGE of how many people of each race engages in a particular type of behavior.

In other word, who does it the most?

 

How many Asian kids are walking around holding boxes of Popeye's Chicken munching on chicken and biscuits...cussing with crumbs falling out of their mouths and calling eachother "nicca" like it's a new language?

 

I don't even see White kids who "try" to be what they think is "Black" doing it.
They may copy some "cool" Hiphop styles and try to talk the "yo yo whaddup bro" to a certain extent.
But there are some lines THEY don't even cross.
They'll play stupid until real danger approaches...then that "white boy" comes out, lol.

 

 

Culture plays a huge part in human development. The code is taught from day one of a child's life.

 

Racist protocols are certainly taught....passed down from generation to generation.
But I'm not sure if raw RACISM is.
I think that most Caucasians are simply instinctively racist against people of color and they simply teach their children HOW to be racist.

 

 

 

Getting older definitely makes us more cognizant of embarrassment especially when its our people. 

 

Some of the shit I see these clowns doing....I knew better than to do at 12 years old.

Just had a brother today almost get fired for messing around with 2 women on the job....one of them was his manager.
This nicca had a WHITE BEARD....certainly old enough to know better than to do what he did.
Just....silly as hell.
Almost 70 and still ain't learned from the mistakes he's made.
Doing dumb shit the average 14 year old should know better than to do or say.

 

I used the word "nigga" a lot, especially off-line....lol.
But even when I was teenager I INSTICTIVELY knew not to say it around White folks.
I just didn't do it.

A lot of Black folks did....either seemingly not knowing or not caring if White folks were listening to them.

 

I think it goes beyond age and generation and goes to intelligence level and self-awareness.
 

ProfD

 

 

I don't think any parent would encourage a child to be greedy or jealous as motivatiion to succeed.

 

It's not something you necessarily "encourage".
It's usually a trait that's just "in" a person and they learn how to use it to their advantage.

Kind of like a boxer who uses their childhood memories of being abused or bullied to muster up the anger and energy to defeat their opponent.

 

A form of self-motivation.

 

However, to your comment........
Don't be so sure that they don't.

We don't know WHAT most White people are teaching their kids.
Whatever it is, it's not what most of us teach ours.

Neely Fuller said the teachings of "White supremacy" is passed down from one generation to the next.
It's taught so that by the time each White child is about 15....they know the rules of the game.

If they teach their kids: 
"Don't let Blacks get ahead of you in school or on a job or they'll take over."
"Don't let them around White women because they'll end up having sex and making more babies of color and pretty soon the White race will be extinct"

If they're teaching their children THAT.....what else would you call it?
 

 

Not only was the South less racist in MY experiences, but I saw more BLACK LOVE and BLACK UNITY down South back in the 80s and 90s than I did in the North.

Our culture was....and still is...much stronger in the South than in the North except for places like Chicago, Detroit, Philadelphia....but don't step outside the city limits;  and DEFINITELY stronger than out West.

18 hours ago, frankster said:

Sure....Here is a man reputed to have what is considered Supernatural Powers - raises more question than answers.

Is he an Avatar ....Anunnaki - or Godman?

 

 

Yes....those videos raise a LOT of questions for me.
Among them........

1. In the case of the first video, why is the story of Mr.Toko being told by White men instead of Black Congolese?

2.I understand the stories of him being killed and resurrecting again.  
If they are true, my question would be why did he simply "go away' because the powers didn't want him?
If he was a Savior for humanity then he should have STAYED and helped humanity with more Miracles and helped raised dead people and cure sick people.

3. AIDS came along after these men, but did any of them predict the coming AIDS Pandemic?
And why was it allowed to happen?

In general, I can't say I deny or accept what was said in these videos but IF what was said was true.....it still raises question about the exact purpose for these Holy Men coming among us in the first place if they weren't going to correct the wrongs done by the wicked in this world.

Why did they come?

Troy 

We (Black people) are the most creative race on the planet.
We invented the vast majority of the dance moves not just in the U.S. but around the planet....as well as the Martial Arts.

Years ago when I was a teenager a brother told me we invented Martial Arts and "gave" it to the Asians.
I laughed at him thinking he didn't know what he was he was talking about and was doing a little too much with the Black history.

Now after not just years of experience and personal research but just good old fashioned OBSERVATION......I definitely believe this with little doubt in my mind.

Why?

For the same reason I believe the moves and flips that gymnasts do came from Black people too.

Because our people are so creative that they INVENT things so much they often get tired of a particular thing and move on.....only for others to STEAL it and appropriate it as "their" culture.

Look at the dances, styles of dressing, and DJ'ing at parties that Whites and many Asians engage in today.
All of it came from urban AfroAmericans....who were doing it in the 70s, 80s, 90s, and have moved on with NEW styles.
But White folks will pick up on it and make it a STAPLE in a particular arena.

 

Interesting videos........

Care to discuss them?

There is an old saying in journalism......"if it bleeds, it leads".

ProfD

 

A man can put in the work required to change his station in life. 

 

True.
However my statement was in response to you suggesting that learning from the successes of White men amounts to "duplicating the worst of men".

Murder, rape, and theft are wrong.
But learning how to control people, produce products and services expoditiously, and accumulate wealth and status are NOT, in my opinion.

These are valuable skills that any free people must have.

.....or they won't be free long.
 

 

I was referring to AfroAmericans primarily but also lifting Black people by extension.

 

 

 

 

Working together as I envision it would have Black folks on code.

 

Yes, those who are ABLE to get on code...lol.

I've said over and over again, you're not going to get "on code" with a fool.
A fool is INCAPABLE of adhering to a code.

Try to get "on code" with a fool and when you call him up to ask him where he is.....he's laying on the couch with a blunt in his hand grabbing his cell phone trying to see what time it is.
A fool thinks that what yall talked about was supposed to happen TOMORROW.....not today, lol.

But then again......
How many Asian or Jewish or Arab women would be WILLING to even DO a commercial about STD's or vaginal infections?

Some people have a natural "self awareness" where it appears they don't even have to be taught certain things.
It's almost like common sense or intuition to them that doing certain things in public will not only embarrass THEM but embarrass their COMMUNITY as well.

So what makes so many of our young people freely call eachother "nigga" out in public in restaurants, on the plane, in malls, and at work in front of White folks without so much as a second thought?
What makes so many of our youth walk up and down the street with their eyes bucked open throwing their hands every which way while cussing and rapping to themselves?

Lack of self-awareness?
Lack of care?

Why can I and many others EASILY see how disturbing and embarrassing this behavior is but so many of our people don't?

19 hours ago, ProfD said:

Channeling negative emotions into constructive energy would be great. Greed and jealousy aren't usually associated with positivity.

True, however they have the POTENTIAL to be great motivators when used CONSTRUCTIVELY.

Jealousy, when used DESTRUCTIVELY can lead to murder.
However when used CONSTRUCTIVELY can lead to one being a billionaire.

Greed, when used DESTRUCTIVELY can turn one into a pathological liar and thief.
However when used CONSTRUCTIVELY can lead one to cure cancer.

ProfD

 

 

No reason for us to duplicate the worst of men. 

Perhaps lacking power, being broke, and disrespected is AMONG the "worst" for a man.

 

 

Power and wealth should be used to lift all boats. Everyone should be able to live comfortably.

 

I'm not focused on helping "everyone" or ensuring that "everyone" lives comfortably.

I WILL help those in need to the various extent that my resources allow.
Especially those suffering medical emergencies; however my primary focus is on AfroAmericans and ensuring our prosperity and success.

 

 

 

 

frankster

 

Wisdom has nothing to do with Ethnicity

 

True...but that doesn't answer my question.

Again, if you suggest that White people have book-knowledge but are lacking wisdom...I won't argue this.
Perhaps others do....I'm not sure one way or the other, which is why I simply ask that you show me the race that DOES have more wisdom than them.

 

 

Then you know that it Failed...as it accentuate differences and not commonalities.

It was SET UP to fail.
The United States didn't set up Liberia the same way they and Britain set up Israel.

You don't dump a bunch of newly freed Black folks off in the middle of the woods and sail away leaving them to fend for themselves..
What did they EXPECT to happen?
 

 

 

 

We will be seen as Foreigners Akata, Obruni or Oyinbo...Cotton picker or stupid and evil person.

 

You're ALREADY seen as that anyway...that's one of my points.
If we go over there and BUILD something and HELP people with our wealth and technology (comparatively speaking) perhaps they'd look at us differently.

But at this point, many if not most of them don't see AfroAmericans in a very positive light ANY way.

 

 

 

We certainly do not have more Resources than African, We do not have more Wealth than Africans And it can be argued we do not have more skills than the Africans.

 

As AfroAmericans we COLLECTIVELY have more ACCESS to wealth, technology, and education than most Africans.
We just don't use it properly.

 

A Black man (Charles Brown) is currently the Joint Chief of Staff leading the United States military.
Before him another Black man named Colin Powell was in that position.

We HAVE access and opportunities....but we haven't used them wisely.

 

 

 

What we have is Proximity to Power  and The Opportunity to influence that power....Access to Modern Technology.

 

Facts.
So why not USE them?

Remember the old adage, USE IT OR LOSE IT.

Many Latinos use what little THEY have to go back down to Latin America and build.

 

 

 

No....I expect them to built Industries in Africa.

 

Well they have to be TAUGHT how to do this.
You don't go from being a cashier at Home Depot to building a steel plant in the middle of Ghana.
You have to be TAUGHT these skills.
Which is why we should petition the U.S. government for skills and training.

 

 

That is Aristocracy/Nobility, ancestors left a heritage for them.

 

However the hell they got it....they got it.
What's wrong with it?

What's wrong with Aristocracy and being upper class?
What's wrong with being wealthy and elite?

I'm not going to let White "liberal" theology trick me out of going against common sense.
Wealth is good.

 

 

True.....but why would you want to be a Corrupt Elite....

 

I said ELITE...I said nothing about being "corrupt".

 

 

 

 

Let us try to keep it a good thing.

 

Absolutely.
Part of our success is in our RIGHTEOUSNESS.

However as a people we need to be on the SAME PAGE as to what constitutes "righteousness".
Lol, which leads us to this NEXT issue.....

 

 

 

We Knew that all along....but what you are proposing is to fleece the poor and needy 

 

Is bringing factories, buildings, and decent paying jobs to them "fleecing" them?

Because that would be ONE OF my intentions in buying land and establishing industry in Africa.
Helping myself and other AfroAmericans primarily however helping them also.

 

 

 

You just Said how you got "cookies" by taken advantage of people in need.....you had the power and abused them with it.

 

Corrections:

 

1. I didn't take advantage of the PERSON, I took advantage of the OPPORTUNITY.

It was a fair exchange as they had the choice.

If they didn't want to have sex with me, they could have gone to someone else or just turned down my offer.
No compulsion or extortion.

2. I didn't AB-USE my power I USED by power to get what I wanted by helping THEM get what THEY wanted.


As long as sex is CONSENTUAL and MUTUALLY AGREED I have absolutely no problem with it.
 

We don't want to build a society based on HYPOCRISY.
Not calling YOU that...but speaking in general.

We know most men want sex and will use different ways to get it.
You're not going to stop this.  It's been going on for thousands if not millions of years.
It's not likely to change.
As long as it's VOLUNTARY and between ADULTS, we should accept that it's their own personal business and move on to more important matters.
 

But I understand you're PROBABLY coming from a Biblical/Christian perspective that believes that sex is more than a physical need and desire.

 

 

 

Power comes in many forms...And we all have varying degrees of power regardless of Race class or status

 

Facts!

 

 

 

First you must recognize The Power you already have and what you are doing with it.

 

More facts on top of facts.

 

 

 

 

 

You are setting yourself up as the "Other" very rarely good come of such behaviour.

 

Good luck TRYING to blend in as being the "same" then.
Some people will tell you that as an AfroAmerican, most Africans wouldn't see you as one of their "own" no matter how hard you tried to fit in or blend in.
So you might as well embrace being the "other" Black man, lol.

 

 

 

We are Westerners and we should continue with our cultural ways whilst being Aware Accepting and Hospitable as Guests should be.

 

I wouldn't accept "guest" status.

If I buy land there, I would demand CITIZENSHIP status....for me and my offspring born there.

 

Not FORCED mind you.
But "demand" as in....that would be part of the deal in exchange for the money and other benefits I would bring.

 

They aren't going to just take the AfroAmericans money, use them up, and then kick him out when they get ready.
Or when some other dictator takes over rip up the contract.
Hell no.

 

 

 

 

I could not agree with you more.....

Why US Military.....Why not Create Our Own  or hire Private Black African Paramilitary Protection Service Company.

 

I'll give you 2 good reasons:

1. The U.S. military is one of if not THE best military among nations in the world.
What country would have a better military to help us and learn from?
 

 

2. We're UNITED STATES CITIZENS.
They have someone of an obligation to help and protect us anyway.

 

 

 

I love discussions like this because we can get things out in the open and eliminate misunderstandings.

This is one of the many great things I've learned from the teachings of Neely Fuller Jr.

There should be NO CONFUSION or MISUNDERSTANDINGS between Black people....especially when we set out to work together on a project or want to go into a business or buy land together.

We should all know what the other believes and what their values are.

Before we SET FOOT on our land overthere, we should have a CRYSTAL CLEAR understanding of eachothers wants, expectations, intentions, morals, and ethical values.
 

Aside from the so-called "vow of poverty" many Catholic priests take....lol?????

 

It's not so much that poor White folks "love" being in poverty.
It's that they love being in a status higher than YOURS.

Most poor Whites will accept being poor AS LONG AS the Black people in their immediate surroundings are POORER and more oppressed than them.

 

On the other hand, they'd hate like hell to be middle class with a nice house only to have a Black family making just as much money as them moving in next door to them.
It just rubs them the wrong way.

Their seemingly illogical attitude could be likened to a man who thinks his girlfriend is ugly and disrespects her on the regular, but gets jealous as hell if she talks to another man.
 

As far as "greed" being a problem......

 

Not NECESSARILY...in my opinion.

Greed...like poverty...can be a pretty strong motivator in some people.

 

Greed is a natural human emotion.
It....like jealousy....was given to us for a reason.
Rather than condemning them because of out-dated religious and philosophical feelings, perhaps it would be wise for society to learn the proper use if these natural emotions for our benefit.

20 hours ago, ProfD said:

Right. The media has more boots on the ground in Israel and Ukraine than they have soldiers. 

Facts

Which is why journalists keep getting "got" by the Israeli military.

I can understand covering a war.
However....its a WAR.
You know what to expect.
As in most wars......death and destruction, generally speaking.

What exactly do you hope to capture walking out in the middle of a firefight with a damn camera in your hand hiding behind a garbage can???
Hoping to find someone who bleeds GREEN for a change???