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Troy I'm glad you enjoyed yourself, but please watch yourself with the "deep fried".....ANYTHING, lol. It does not work that way. Once sonething is proven false, it is discarded. Science does not build upon falsehoods, it learns from errors and moves on. Then obviously science doesn't consider Darwin's belief in multiple "favoured" races as false, since the theory is still in existence and quite popular. The articles summarizing studies are written in the colloquial language people understand (unfortunately) This may be true, but how do you figure this means they don't believe in multiple races? I don't think this was an attempt by scientists to dumb down or talk down to their audience. The second article clearly speakd of races AND ethnic groups, so they were well aware of the differences between the two. It's not like they used "race" for lack of a better or more accurate term. 　 Im sure as you trolled the internet looking fir some to support your argument you cane came across infirmation that asserts there is only one race. You will never find scientific information that say we have multiple races today. Troy, stop being stubborn and ridiculous. I just SHOWED YOU recent scientific articles discussing the reality of multiple races. Are you sure you got the concept that there was only ONE race from "science"? Or did you pick up this concept from some of the well meaning so-called "progressives" whom you've worked with and around in academia who fancied the concept? I think if you head to the kitchen and warm up a couple more corn-dogs and squeeze some mustard over them with a scoop of potato salad on the side and THINK about it while fixing your plate....lol....you'll have to come to the conclusion that there are indeed multiple races and science clearly backs this up.

Troy Interesting choice of words..... You said MANY Black people in this culture do well in school, are healthy, and have decent incomes, but you didn't say MOST. 1 million people are MANY people. But if only 1 million AfroAmericans are doing good out of a population of 50 million.....those figures are still dismal for MOST of the population. When you say evil is rewarded, what is your idea of concept of "evil"?

Perhaps this fear and deep-seated desire to control everything in order to keep themselves safe and make sure they have enough wealth for themselves and their family is the main REASON they ended up being the ruling class in the first place. I think it's smart. What's the alternative? To live life from day to day with no desire to control one's surrounding or plan for the future? Some would call that type of recklessness a blueprint for poverty and oppression.

Kareem You kind of summed up my feelings of skepticism about this channel. Although AfroAmericans desperately need our own INDEPENDENT media, I have to wonder is this the real deal or will it just be another FRONT to push the LGBTQIA+ agenda as well as other forms of self-destruction on AfroAmericans.

Troy Maybe it is just adopting the cultural norms of the society you live in. Whenever more than a handful of people live in a community you must adpot some behaviors you may not care for in order to make the society work. This is true, however the problem with some of these "norms" that our people have adopted are very harmful to them. Smoking is a "norm" in this society. So is eating fast food and genetically modified foods. Going on about what our "natural" culture was and going back to it is not very helpful. Considering that many AfroAmericans are among the: - least healthiest -lowest income -most prone to be victims of crime -most likely to go to jail -worst performing in education If going back to what's natural and re-adopting ancient practices wouldn't be helpful, do you seriously think staying on this same course IS helping? I don't think you need Delano to draw up a PROJECTION to see where our community will end up 100 years from now if we continue this same path and practice these same habits we're practicing today.

Lady Of Virtue She is mimicking what she see at home, she is be exposed to hatred from those she loves the most I'm sure she was exposed to her parents calling eachother or their children "baby" and "sweetheart" and "darling" too. If she were merely MIMICKING the behavior she saw at home and didn't internalize it, wonder why THOSE words weren't parrotted also? For a kid to tell an adult that "you're asking too many questions" doesn't sound like someone who is mindlessing mimicking what they heard, but sounds like someone who KNOWS what they are doing or saying is controversial and could get them in trouble.

Mel I will never understand nor want to understand why humans have this desire to control anyone but themselves. I can't speak for others, but I DEFINATELY like having as much control over myself and my ENVIRONMENT as possible. I guess I feel this way because it helps me to feel safer and more secure. In order to have some control over your environment, you have to have a measure of control and influence over the PEOPLE in that environment to make sure they don't or can't introduce factors in your environment that will harm you. If you want a good example of what happens when you ONLY control yourself and no one else in your environment; look at how mostly Caucasian police forces behave in many poor inner-city communities. Still there's only one kind of man with whom I've ever found sexy enough to get naked. A brutish man would never make my list. You ain't lying....lol....because I still remember some of what was on your "list" from that rumble we had months ago. Let me see: 1. Caucasian 2. Blonde hair 3. Blue eyes 4. Loves the hell out of nappy headed Black girls 5. Lets you and your daughters wear whatever the hell you want and won't say a damn thing about it.***** Lol....sounds about right? Troy had to look up cishet myself last week. It is one of the terms "woke" folks use. Like saying "Latinx." I actually thing "Latinx" is a pretty good neutral term. From the little bit I know of Espanol it appears to be quite a sexist language where not only are most things given a male/female gender but often times the female term is suppressed and tossed in with the masculine. 　 Delano worked with a women and she said she could respect a man that did everything she asked. She's probably confusing the term "respect" with "like". I don't know a lot of women OR men who will respect someone who does EVERYTHING they are asked. They may like the person and see them as agreeable, but as far as showing them RESPECT.....meaning having a sense of hesitancy or restrain about mistreating them....that's rarely the case. 　 I think Chris Rock said in the bedroom he called his partner a b!+ch. Buthe that's the only place he can say it. Never totally understood that that entire behavior. I never verbablly berated a woman during sex and except for one time years ago.....none have even asked me to. I guess that falls into the S&M category...lol.

Troy If few "afroamerican are unmixed today, how do you square this with the information provided by those articles that you cited? Considering the fact that the article specifically talks about "African-Americans" (the commonly used term for AfroAmericans), I'd say the information squares quite nice and neatly. Whatever racial mix or combination AfroAmericans are, the study was still based on OUR gentics and considered us a separate race than the Caucasians who also participated. Thus these scientific publications believe that humans are more than just ONE race. 　 Scientific American described African-American as a race do you agree with with that? No However regardless as to whether or not I believe this, you asked for proof that MODERN SCIENCE supports the idea of MULTIPLE RACES and I provided it for you. 　 The other article equates race with ethnicity. Do you? No However regardless as to whether or not the article sees race and ethnicity are the same, you asked for proof that MODERN SCIENCE supports the idea of MULITPLE RACES and I provided it for you. What are the "multiple races" that make me and Cynique up? Not sure, and it's irrelevant. Again, you asked for proof that MODERN SCIENCE supports the idea of MULTIPLE RACES and I provided it for you. Science agrees with me. Modern science. Lol...... If you aren't too busy munching on elephant ears and corn-dogs from the state fair, can you please tell me why your views haven't changed on this issue despite my presenting you contrary evidence? Dude who cares about a 200 year old book? Why do you keep bring it up in a conversation about modern genetics? Because you said you believe in the THEORY of Evolution, and I'm showing you that despite it's current caims it's origins are rooted in racist ideology. If the FOUNDATION is faulty, how can the BUILDING it sits on be stable?

Troy I guess, as a Cishet male Man, that one made me go to the Urban Dictionary. Hadn't heard the term "cishet" before but at first sight I thought it was the official word for "sissy", lol. For a quick second or two I was thinking, "So THAT'S where that word came from." Anyway, glad to see you're out of harms way. Or since you're in New York, safe from being harmed by nature atleast...lol. It's funny you say that because they're having the Michigan State fair this weekend also. Now I'm wondering, if all of the state fairs around the nation are held around the same time of year and why I hadn't noticed in all these years.

That's part of the effectiveness of successful indoctrination! You rarely recognize the true origin of your beliefs, and in some cases you don't even recognize the fact that you HAVE certain beliefs until certain events trigger an irrational response from you. You can be a card carrying Democrat, promote same-sex marriage, legalizing drugs, having marched with MLK and fought against apartheid in South Africa -but it wasn't until your daughter brought home a Black husband and you had a heart attack did you realize how racist you actually were, lol. Well...... I'm not in a position to sit up and debate with you on the best ways to raise children and I also agree that it's inappropriate to have sex infront of them; although I suspect we agree for different reasons. However I think you may reconsider the belief that "we" ever defecated infront of eachother or ate eachother. We (Africans) never in our various cultures. I'm sure some mentally ill individuals (the Jeffery Dahmer types) did crazy shit on their own, but I'm saying as social groups public defecation and canabalism was never recorded among us. Infact, the only group of people with a documented history of canabalism and public urination and defecation were the Caucasians, especially while they were still in the caves.

Troy Although you aren't saying it outright, I believe you like many (probably most) AfroAmericans and people of color worldwide have internalized the Caucasian based moral beliefs about sex and it's purpose. Caucasians have taught people of color through their religious and socio-political indotrination that sex is a "necessary evil", "original sin" and that it's bad and "nasty" and should only be engaged in....if ever....for the purposes of reproduction. You said you thought this video was inappropriate for children to watch, huh...lol. So I supposed the idea of children WATCHING their parents and other adults in the community actually ENGAGE in sex while totally naked.....a scene that was pretty common in so-called "primitive" societies around the globe before Caucasian interference....would probably give you a conniption and make you fit to be tied, lol.

Hmmm...... Interesting comments, but I don't think they quite answer my questions. I know confidence is attractive to most women; but if we take it steps further, the question is do most women subconsciously or consciously find it sexy when a man assumes authority and dominates over them even if they think it's wrong and don't "like" it? In other words, if you see a man behaving brutishly and taking control over you OR his surroundings, you can think he's an asshole all you want but does some part of you actually find it sexy.......as opposed to the kind and considerate man who is very courteous and treats all people with respect but expresses no aggression or desire to control. Ofcourse you may "like" him, but do you find him sexy and want to sleep with him? 　 Troy Your comments about my views on homosexual men is an irrational response to what I actually wrote concerning them. BTW..... I hope you're somewhere outside of and far faaaaar away from Florida !

I was listening to a recent episode of Tariq Nasheed where he played an audio clip of a little Caucasian girl who was casually calling an AfroAmerican family "nigger" (including the baby) and this reminded me of the conversation @Ldvirtue and @Chevdove and I were having a few weeks ago in this thread: https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/5993-white-domestic-terror/ about where racism comes from. You two maintained that racism (the actual hatred of and desire to destroy people of color) was TAUGHT; while I believe that although some of it is taught most of it is programmed into the very genetics and psyche of most Caucasians and doesn't have to be taught. Like a talent, you were born with it but just have to hone the skill from time to time. Now listen to the conversation this AfroAmerican adult woman is TRYING to have with this little Caucasian girl and you tell me does this sound like an innocent little kid who was tricked into using a racist term: https://youtu.be/hESJnpL9l2k?t=2637 I'm sure she heard either her parents or other adults using the word, but even at that young age she clearly knew what the word means and knows how to practice a little bit of "tricknology" to enforce her racism. She even knows when "too many questions" are being asked that may get her in trouble! In some ways she showing already how much SMARTER she is than even that adult woman questioning her! Now I ask you two (and anyone else willing to answer)....how does a little kid no more than 6 or 7 have the intelligence and cunning to know if an adult is asking "too many questions" unless it's INSTINCT and part of her genetic make-up not to trust people of color and to maintain control over them?

Hmmmm...... I wonder do any women find our aggressive back-n-forth debating sexy???? Troy -I believed in races too. Then the science made it clear there is only one race and i changed my position -This is a completely false statement. -This statement is completely false too. Do some basic research man! We are not talking quantum physics here. I'll bring my proof that modern science SUPPORTS the idea of multiple races and you can present yours if you can find any. Now according to the Scientific American periodical: 　 　 According to the American Society of Hematology: Both of these are modern SCIENTIFIC journals clearly supporting the concept that there are multiple races and genetic differences in science. Now can you produce modern SCIENTIFIC articles that clearly state that multiple races or racial differences DO NOT exist and that there is only one race? 　 What race is Cynique then? What race are you? Both of us (and most likely you also) are technically MULTI-RACIAL because very few AfroAmericans are unmixed today. No, my friend, you have to actually read the book before you talk about what it contains. The issue wasn't what the book CONTAINS, the issue was whether the SUBJECT of the book...the Theory of Evolution..is racist or not. I don't need to read the book itself to prove the theory is racist. All I have to do is read the COVER where the author makes it clear the theory supports FAVORED RACES to prove that the book and the theory itself are both racist.

Troy I'm not so sure if "no" women likes wimpy men or not. We may want to believe this but I've ran into quite a few women who CLAIM that macho tough acting men irritate them and that they like the more gentle and soft men. And we both have seen how so many women have gay male friends today. It's hard to believe that the same woman who has a great time hanging out with a feminine acting gay man can ALSO find masculine assertive men attractive at the same time. I know people don't always mean what they say, but I'm getting to the point where I'm DEMANDING people speak their mind and be honest as to avoid confusion. If there are indeed women who like aggressive, confrontational, and even violent men I want them to clearly state it and why. And if there are women who like soft, gentle, mild-mannered men who would never fight or inflict violence on a soul...I want them to clearly state this too and why. The more I study and listen to Neely Fuller Jr. the more I'm learning how to nail down and drill down on questions to get the answers I'm looking for without all of the games and the role playing this society loves to engage in.

Troy 1. I haven't kicked Cynique out of "my" Black race because I don't technically believe there IS a "Black race". 2. So now you're not only saying that MLK and Malcolm were racist for believing in multiple races; NOW you're saying that they were ignorant and didn't know any better....lol. Gotcha..... Well, what about scholars like Cornel West or Ta Nishi Coats whom you have high regard for, THEY TOO believe in the existence of multiple races.....are they ignorant or racist too? What is the source of your knowledge on "race?" Obviously it is not current scientific information, so where do yiu get this stuff? Science, both current and older. Scientific studies are STILL being done highlighting the differences between races. 　 What?! First I have not read Darwins document (have you read the whole book?), You don't have to read the WHOLE book, all you have to do is look at the damn cover....lol. The title " The Preservation of FAVOURED Races" says it all. The book starts off telling you that some races are more favored than others. This is the very definition of racism isn't it? ....I'm sure you'll agree to that atleast. Race is an artificial, socio-polical, construct with no foundation in science. Race....like sex, gender, color, flavor, ect......are all man made concepts used to categorize things. All categories are "artificial constructs" because they are concepts humans developed to organize information, but that doesn't mean they don't exist or are illigetimate. Race is an artificial/man-made category based on concrete biological and genetic facts.

Troy I'm sure somewhere in what you just said we can find the harm or damage or negative consequences of this video and the likes thereof that you so fear.....I just haven't read it. So can you PLEASE point out what is your exact cause of concern? What is the worse case scenario resulting from this video? Im just glad im not trying raise my kids in a world were this type of stuff is shoved at them 24/7 Would it have been better to raise children in the 80s and 90s when crime and violence were at an all time high in America and "shoot-em-up" Rambo, Terminator, and ghetto-hood movies dominated Hollywood? Pick and choose my man, sex or violence...which do you prefer?

Troy My concern is for younger kids and the potential impact on them -- something that no one seems to be concerned about. Lol....what reasons ARE there for the rest of us (or you for that matter) to be concerned about? This video has: -No violence. -No hatred of or disrespect of women. -Not even nudity or real sex is shown. .......what negative impact could this video have on children besides the risk that they'll grow up frustrated that their bodies aren't as firm and athletic as those on this video?

Troy No, again because there only one race. Believing in multiple races and the inherent differences of those races makes one racist. Oh...so in other words you believe Martin Luther King and Malcolm X were racists also since they also acknowledged more than one race and dedicated their lives based around it. Ok so then why take Cynique out of the so called black race solely because of her skin color? I didn't. Genetically, there are more differences bewteen Africans than there between you and any given white person. You have more in common genetically with jared taylor than you do with many of the native people of Africa. How do you know this to be true? Can you provide evidence that Africans have more genetic differences between eachother than AfroAmericans have with Caucasians? The are a lot things that scientists believed 200 years ago, that has since been proven false. Never the less........ You asked for evidence that the Theory of Evolution was racist and I provided it. What have you to say about that?

I recently I got into a confrontation at work with a manager (not mine) over a particular issue and it got to the point that our voices were raised. It didn't help that he was Caucasian also, lol. The issue was resolved (although I'm sure he hasn't forgotten my challenging him) by a higher up but later on after it was over a female co-worker from Nepal whom I flirt with a couple time but she rarely flirted back confided in me how hot and attractive it was to see me being loud and turning red while standing up to that particular manager whom she didn't like either. She said it felt like I was standing up for her (although she wasn't even on my mind at the time) and that the louder I got the more she felt like she was on a cloud and floating she felt so relieved. Anyone who's met women from the Middle East and African countries in general know that for one of them to admit openly that they find you or any other man sexy, hot, or attractive is a HUGE accomplishment because those women tend to be very conservative. But she's not the first woman to tell me straight up that she found it attractive for men to be confrontational and aggressive, other women have to. But the vast majority of them were from OUTSIDE of America. I used to think it was mostly AfroAmerican women who were strong willed and didn't want men "taking charge" of the environment but I've noticed over the years that it seems to be American women in general regardless of race. But I've noticed that women of all races who grew up OUTSIDE of Western culture tend to find strong willed "take charge" men VERY attractive. When I'm aggressive or show traditional masculine traits around women from other countries I can see it in their eyes that they love it and if I criticize homosexuality they don't defend it, most of the time they just say nothing or even agree with me. My question is directed mostly at the women viewing but obviously I want to hear from Troy and Del on their personal experiences, but do you all REALLY dislike for a man to dominate you and take charge of the environment like so many women today say.....or do you actually love it and just SAY you don't because it's the politically correct thing to say? I'm asking this because there's no way in hell so many women outside of America can think so much differently than those inside unless some sort of conditioning was going on. Now this is a moment when I wished Cynique was here, lol. Whether we agreed or not I could atleast count on her as a woman who gives her honest opinion about an issue even if it's not a popular one that most other women agree with. But perhaps Chev @Chevdove , Mel @Mel Hopkins, or Queen X can give there opinions and TRY TO BE AS HONEST AS POSSIBLE. Again, do you like for a man to be dominant and show aggression and "take charge"? Does it depend on the man, meaning as long as he's "smart" or "rich" you don't mind, or would you rather NO man try to control you or your environment or show aggressiveness? And if you DO like that do you like it in a sexual sort of way or just a platonic "proud" sort of way?

Troy 1. If simply believing in the existence of different races makes one racist, then by using that SAME logic....believing in the existence of different sexes makes one sexist. 2. What we call "Asian eyes" isn't a trait exclusely found among East Asians but can also be found among certain Africans and certain Native Americans. It's just ONE TRAIT, but in order to qualify as a member of a particular race it takes MULTIPLE TRAITS. 3. I'm suprised you didn't know the Theory of Evolution is racist. For one thing, it theorizes that humanity evolved OUT OF Africa....which implies that Africans are less evolved than other groups. We know that the theory originated for the most part with Charles Darwin and his book Origin of Species, but if you ever read the book and saw the title you'd see: The book that outlines his Theory of Evolution makes it clear that the theory is about the natural selection of FAVORED RACES (races of both animals and humans). Directly stating that some races are more favored and desired than others. So even if YOU don't believe in race, your boy Darwin and the other scientists who promote the theory do, lol.

Troy ACKNOWLEDGING the existence of race and racism doesn't make one any more racist than acknowledging the difference between the sexes and the existence sexism makes one sexist. Lol, because you believe men are different than women, are you now sexist? ooking at the people you posted I see they have monolids, wouldn't that make them mongoloid, Asian, or whatever racial category you use? Why does Cynique's skin color disqualify her from being Black or "African," if you prefer, when having Chinese eyes does not? Because when determining one's race, MANY factors must be considered...not just one or two. You keep trying to make it as simple as skin color when there's a multitude of characteristics both phenotypically as well as genetically that determines a person's race or RACES (if they are multiracial). Cynique wouldn't be considered African simply because her skin is very light BECAUSE OF the high mixture of Caucasian blood that we KNOW she has. The reason for her light skin is obvious and it's because of a high amount of Caucasian ancestry. With the San people of Africa, their lighter skin IS NOT caused by a high degree of Caucasian ancestry because for the most part they are unmixed, which makes them PURE. They are Africans who happen to have lighter skin....but their other features like hair and nose and genetic markers are the same as most other Africans. 　 Africans are the most genetically diverse people on Earth. You can't call all of them "pure" without including the rest of humanity in the purity. We are all born of Africa including Jared and his people. They did not morph into a new race when their people left Africa 200,00 years ago -- that is a split sec on the eveloutionary scale. This is a mere theory......conjecture really.....not an established proven fact. I've said numerous times that I do not believe humanity came out of Africa. I believe our ancestors CAME FROM the Indian subcontinent region and MIGRATED TO Africa through Egypt and Ethiopia. Caucasians didn't come from Africa either. They came from another branch of "Black" people who had straight hair. But since neither idea has actually been PROVEN, both are theories. By the way, you DO realize that the THEORY of evolution is racist in it's conception right?

Troy What do you mean me and "other" racists? Just because I acknowledge racial differences and the racism that results from them that doesn't mean I'm guilty of the same. Lol, you should be ashamed of yourself....calling your brutha a racist. Also as previously mentioned you don't consider someone of Cynique complexion "Black," so how would you treat her mistreatment by a white man compared to that of a blond-haired, blue-eyes woman? I don't use the term "Black" much but rather "African" to describe our race. And no, I don't consider Cynique African by race but she's not Caucasian either. That Caucasian man could be racist against her simply for not being Caucasian regardless to how "Black" she may or may not be. Most Jews are Caucasian, but they are often STILL victims of racism because of the minute traces of their actual and PERCEIVED African ancestry. Del is darker than I am; in fact, Del is darker than many actual native African peoples. Is he a better breed, or a or more superior version, of a so called Black person? Again, it's not JUST about complexion but other genetic and phenotypical factors as well. This is why I use the term AFRICAN and CAUCASIAN for racial purposes, instead of "Black" and "White". There are a lot of pure AFRICANS with relatively light skin called the San People who live in Southern Africa. We are all human dude. Our skin color does not make as any more or less so, our behavior does that. You can believe that all you want, but try getting Jared Taylor and his supporters and followers to believe it. Try to get the racist cops who have shot so many unarmed AfroAmericans that we are "all" humans. Who YOU believe are humans and what they're worth ain't worth a hill of beans when those in power believe otherwise.

Troy Ummph. I remember Kim Coles was doing a little stand-up even BEFORE she had that show. If I were you I would have asked her to introduce you to the other sistaz on the show like Queen Latifah, Erika Alexander, and "Tootie". (I know she's Kim Fields but she'll always be Tootie to me....lol)

Troy This society was BUILT on racism and racial heirarchy. To believe that those in charge would stop tracking race and considering the races of individuals means you believe they'd actually be willing to dismantle their entire system. The victims would have legal ground for being mistreated. All this focus on race being the motivator tends to reinforce the perceived, inherent, differences between people with different skin tones. Problems is....victims can CLAIM mistreatment but without the acknowledgement of race there is no basis for claims of racism nor would their be an ability to document PATTERNS of mistreatement. It's like claiming you were bitten by a dog in a society that doesn't believe dogs even exist. All you would have are individuals being mistreated in what appears to be unrelated cases instead of SYSTEMIC abuse (racism). Also, the acknowledgement of racial differences is beneficial to us as AfroAmericans also because we can focus on eating the proper foods and using the proper products that benefit people of African descent as those differences are acknowledged. When you claim that all people are of the same race, then you won't be able to explain why Caucasians can drink alcohol at the same rate that Native Americans drink it but the Native American community ends up being DEVASTATED by it while the Caucasian community does just fine.....but acknowledgement of racial differences explains this. When you claim that all people are of the same race then you won't be able to explain why certain soaps and lotions that are just fine for Caucasian skin and hair doesn't work or has a negative effect on AfroAmerican skin and hair.....as most Black women will confirm. .....but acknowledgement of racial differences explains this.