Pioneer1

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Troy Pioneer, if that were true why do I reject every word that emerges from Zuckerberg's pie hole. Because you see him and his opinions as highly important enough TO consider and then reject and argue against. If you didn't you wouldn't waste energy concerning yourself with what he has to say. Lol....like I don't. Mel I’m in agreement with you Well it's about time....lol. The person said you have to pay auction.com $100 to see the property. Well, that’s not exactly "fact" Now it is a fact that auction dot com charges a fee BUT that’s not the whole story. You can see the house for free - if the former homeowner , the one going through foreclosure let’s you in. What that person said was not a fact because as you pointed out they didn't specify the particular method in which one could view the said property which would lead one to believe that the ONLY way a person can view it is by going through "auction.com" and giving them money. But your example is just one illustration of the point I've been making about much of the so-called "facts" and science in Western society in general. Much of it is based on deception by OMISSION. Instead of outright lying they often times tell half-truths and omit certain key details to mislead and misguide the public and sway their beliefs. But it’s also fact that you could save yourself aggravation and wait until the bank takes possession. You can buy it from them with financing and for less than you’d pay at auction. The problem with buying seized property from banks is that many of them have brokers who have already made deals with realtors and investors they're connected with whom they routinely give a heads up to which properties are about to be foreclosed on and so there is usually already an investor or realtor waiting lined up for that particular property before the ink finishes drying on the county's paperwork.

Mel Sadly, Pioneer’s comment up there - reminded of those times. Lol...now what does THAT mean? Troy owns the website but he works for us, the visitors, members and contributors. In fact, I bet there are more women signed up than men. So why would anyone (but alt-reicht) be turned off by a black man owning a website? Your argument is based upon not properly understanding where my focus and criticism is. OFCOURSE AfroAmerican women (and men) will support an AfroAmerican man who is HELPING THEM OUT.....whether it's Troy helping them to sell their books or Obama giving them jobs. They aren't stupid, they know how to be nice, who to be nice too, and WHEN to be nice and respectful. But if they have a CHOICE.....they would rather cater to and do business with another Black woman or even a White man. And the evidence of this is when it comes to "fun" and less formal things like daily social interactions or social engagements like informal chatting they typically form cliques with eachother that exclude AfroAmerican males except for gay ones. More evidence of this is as you say there are a ton of Black women on this site promoting thier books but when it comes to having discussions about the community on the message board if this same site they may lurk every now and then but are far from interested in participating. Why? No one is harassing them or calling them bitches and ho's....but they still don't feel the "urge" to participate in discussions with their male counterparts.....and I know why. Anyway, I think we are socially conditioned to support black men. Lol, really? Can you provide examples where this is evident? Tell me the city where the women are "conditioned" to support Black men so I can HURRY UP and go there. Troy I hope you are right about my gender not getting in the way. Not for the site in general, because as I told Mel most people will take help from whoever can help them despite their prejudices and hang ups. You have a major platform and you're helping to push their product so ofcourse they'll patronize your site as long as you're helping them to make money. However where your gender (and sex) probably IS getting in the way as well as any other male who participates is when it comes to the MESSAGE BOARD part where we are free to interact and discuss with eachother. Again, many don't like being in social environments where AfroAmerican men are in control. Look Cynique's opening and closing comments: "All of my sistas here have really done themselves proud in offering explanations about their approaches to interacting with other women - as well as men. To my girls, i love you all. It's been "real". " This constant shout out to the females of the site certainly isn't without meaning. And Cynique in my opinion is one of the LEAST feminist women I've ran into on the internet and if SHE had "us sisters against the world" mentality you can imagine what some of the other women may be thinking.

I don't think you even HAVE a motivation for your interactions.....lol. Atleast I haven't seen much evidence of one.

Ofcourse religion was designed to control people. But is that NECESSARILY a bad thing? Some people lack discipline and need more "control" from outside themselves than others.

They all can be measured, but like most abstract concepts they have to be measured by the INDIVIDUAL. A person knows when they are more conscious NOW than when they 3 years ago. A person can definitely tell if a red dress on their spouse makes them more beautiful TO THEM than a green dress.

I've said this time and time again, many AfroAmerican women DO NOT LIKE being in an environment where an AfroAmerican man is incharge! Some people don't think I'm serious or take me seriously when I say this. They don't want to believe it. But I've seen evidence of this far too often to simply dismiss it or push it off on other reasons. Many don't feel comfortable or don't think it's "right" for an AfroAmerican or ANY African man to tell them what to do and would rather have a Caucasian man, Arab, or even a Caucasian woman tell them what to do and GLADLY do it with no complaints. But an AfroAmerican man can give them free rein to say whatever they want and do what they like as long as they get the job done and show up on time and no matter what he allows them to do they just don't like the fact that HE is incharge! Probably to irk you......lol. Knowing how you feel about Twitter, facebook, and Google.....if I wanted to push your buttons (or test our friendship....lol), hyping them up would be a good way to do it.

Troy and Del I think you know by now that I don't put the same trust in or value on the opinions and observations of Caucasians that you two do, so what he has to say or his explaination for why some people do this or that isn't even important enough for me to read. I'm addressing the statement Del made in the title of this thread as a matter of concept regardless as to his intentions.

.....and I'm sure there'd be a LINE of guys just waiting and eager to mete out her punishment BARE HANDED. I know I'd be one of them, lol.

Troy Thanks, I'll check it out. I don't think the ORIGINAL astrology as taught and practiced by ancient cultures was bullshit. It probably started off as a legitimate and effective science back then similar to psychology and psychiatry in Western culture today. But as is often the case, after Caucasians get ahold of it and corrupt it to the point that it loses it's original meaning and purpose......THEN it becomes a mass of confusion and lies that is almost unrecognizable to it's original form. Just look at Yoga........ Originally it was designed as a way for people to become spiritually enlightened and open up certain chakra points, but after Caucasians got ahold of it and brought it to the West.....now it's a way for middle aged White women to maintain their flexibility for sexual activity, lol.

You're probably right. I remember during a spat on a radio program with a sista from Michigan Steve Harvey's retort was for her to enjoy a nice BROWN glass of water...and he emphasized the word brown. Despite numerous calls for him to I don't recall him ever apologizing for that snap either. What made me think that someone who is that insensitive to the attempted environmental genocide that was being inflicted upon an entire city would be burdened by emotions like shame and embarrassment?

Because of the different emotions this post has generated in me (for numerous reasons) every time I've read it for the past couple nights...I'm really not sure how to respond.

Troy may be inclined to agree with most of these statements (found in the title as well as the 1st post) made but I disagree with key aspects of them. 1. Perception isn't necessarily a "hallucination". Traditionally speaking, a "hallucination" is an image or sound that a person can perceive that no others around him can. If most of the people in your environment can also observe it then it's not a hallucination. 2. Perception is a PERSPECTIVE. It's a WAY OF seeing something or someone that other people can see as well. Other's may have a DIFFERENT perception than you but they and you are still observing the same thing. You're on the porch and you both SEE and HEAR a man bouncing a basket ball down the street. Another person inside the house who may not be looking outside the window at the time can HEAR him but not see him. Another person looking out the window with earplugs in their ears may SEE him bouncing the ball but don't hear it. None of you are hallucinating because you are all observing the SAME reality but from different perspectives. Now to the statement that "facts don't change minds"....... This statement isn't entirely correct. It's true for SOME MINDS and for other minds it's false. I'm not going to go into James Clear's article but I'll just focus on the statement itself. It's been my observation that one of the major reasons information offered as "facts" don't change the minds of many people is because what is being called "facts" is often just mere INFORMATION printed up up paper and presented to them by people with an agenda and that mere INFORMATION often times not only goes against their established beliefs but also against their PERSONAL EXPERIENCES AND OBSERVATIONS. You can present "facts" that Americans are healthier and living longer today than they were in the past all you want, but a 70 year old man who WITNESSED an era where as a child he didn't see nearly the amount of sick people he's seeing today AND he routinely saw people who claimed to be 110 and 120 years old walking up and down the old dusty roads of his home town while the oldest person in America today is said to be only 114 -will not believe these so-called "facts" because they don't agree with his personal observations. I'm amazed at how many people insist that simply offering others data or information should be enough to just "change their minds" about life.

What if disorders like autism and schizophrenia were far more simple to diagnos than the public were led to believe? Meaning....... What if a scan of the entire brain actually DOES whether or not someone has autism quite plainly? Take a look at these exerpts from various scientific articles: https://www.ninds.nih.gov/Disorders/Patient-Caregiver-Education/Fact-Sheets/Autism-Spectrum-Disorder-Fact-Sheet 　　 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4688328/ 　 Wait, what is this...................... https://www.webmd.com/brain/autism/news/20060816/autism-affects-childs-entire-brain#1 What do they mean "long held belief" that autism affects certain regions of the brain???? I thought the claim was that autism didn't show up on MRIs and CT scans! Now they're claiming that there was a LONG HELD belief about it only effecting CERTAIN parts of the brain. Which obviously means they can SEE the damaged or dysfunctional parts of the brain and determine whether or not a person is autistic. And by them saying it's "long held" this suggests that they've had this capability for quite some time.

They're probably embarrassed.

Troy Not in the least Infact the the shoddy picture this article portrays of how the CDC and other clinicians actually diagnose autism actualy BOLSTERS my skepticism of the reasons given for the rise in the diagnosis of autism. The main argument this article makes is that autism isn't really on the rise but that professionals are just getting better at diagnosing it. But that's a bullshit argument. Let's dig into it.......................... Ok, right off the bat one of the first statements of the article: This statement is bogus because autism is a NEUROLOGICAL disorder and like all disorders of the nervous system there are tests that will clearly show damage or dysfunction to that system whether it's in the brain, spinal cord, nerves, or in an imbalance of nuerotransmitters. Austistic people show clear dysfunction in certain parts of their brains and since MRI and CT scans were developed in the 1970s there is no excuse after this for ONLY relying on behavioral observation to diagnose autism. If a person indeed is autistic it should show on an MRI or CT scan of their brain. So according to the author, she admits that globally reports of autism are rising. Now if the argument that autism is NOT actually rising but professionals are just getting better at diagnosing it....are we to believe that thousands of professionals in different nations around the planet all shared in the same "mass ignorance" of misdiagnosing and under-diagnosing autism in the past? What are the chances of professionals all over the planet ALL making the same mistakes? 　　 The author is making suppositions and speculating on the variation between Colorado and New Jersey instead of offering hard facts to explain this discrepancy of autistic diagnosis. The fact that she uses the term "probably" is enough to dismiss this excuse as mere speculation. She also insults the intelligence and abilities of professionals by suggesting that perhaps the professionals in Colorado aren't as good at diagnosing autism as those in New Jersey.....again, another case of mass ignorance. Now if you read the above paragraphs about "greater awareness" being responsible for the rise in reports and diagnosis of autism you that may infact be a valid argument IF we were talking about lay people doing the diagnosing. But we are talking about PROFESSIONAL psychologists and psychiatrists who went to school for years and have been dealing with these patients for years. These are supposed to be experts in properly diagnosing autistics so they ALREADY HAVE AWARENESS of the disorder as well as it's symptoms. The disorder itself hasn't changed....autism is autism. What more information does a professional need to know today that wasn't available to them in 1980 to give a more acurrate disagnosis? Nothing. Professionals are disagnosing more people because more people are exhibiting more symptoms.....and people are exhibiting more symptons because more people HAVE AUTISM. 　　 Notice how she didn't answer her own question? Because if she said no there isn't an increase....she knows she would be lying. But if she said YES there IS an increase....she'd have to offer solid scientific explainations as to why this is instead of putting out more speculation like "premie babies" and older fathers. My overall point is autism isn't a matter of "opinion" but a matter fact and the evidence of it not only appears in a person's behavior but also shows up as abnormal brain function so there is no room to "play" with the figures each year as the author of this article suggests and mis-diagnose any more than you could mis-diagnose a broken foot. If trained professionals have been finding a continual increase of autism each year it's because the number of autistic patients ARE GOING UP....not because they're getting better at diagnosing a disorder they're already experts in.

This entire thing about immigrants being held and mistreated in detention camps may be true, but it's also being used as a DISTRACTION. The media is pushing this issue.....like they are pushing the LGBT issue...and like they pushed the White women's issues 3 years ago.....in order to take the focus away from BLACK issues. These congressmen and media can fly down to the border and cry like babies over people who are in this nation illegally are being treated, but they have no tears to shed over how thousands of Black men in prison are being treated everyday.....let along the thousands more homeless on the streets of America. But I don't blame them, I blame AfroAmerican leadership for allowing it to happen.

Troy I'm not sure if you consider me one of the "smart" people you know....lol....but you do KNOW me. And yes....I'm one who is skeptical about these measles vaccinations. I believe much of them ARE linked to autism and a number of other disorders.....especially among Black boys. Something is causing the rise in autism.

I found it funny at first but decided to check out the video and actually that manweave thing looks totally natural on the brother! It makes him look about 20 years younger too.

So I guess mulattos like Colin Kaepernick and Aeshya Curry are going to be among the new spokesperson's for AfroAmerican issues. Or better yet.....the KARDASHIANS can also be spokespersons! When it comes to AfroAmerican isssues, Trump seems to be paying more attention to and granting favors for KIM KARDASHIAN than even Kanye, Jim Brown, Steve Harvey or any other AfroAmerican jockying for his attention.

Chev Well, if you give her some space, then maybe she will offer some input. The floor was hers all along. What I post and my presence shouldn't impact her ability to express herself. And she said on numerous occasions that it didn't matter to her whether I stayed or left. (yeah right....lol) I hope you don't get offended at this as a female, but like I told Troy....it's been my observation that most female posters like being on sites where they can point their fingers at certain people and get them punished by either being shamed and ridiculed or suspended and banned. I understand that most females tend to be more sensitive than males and it's hard for them to ignore the presence of certain individuals so the concept of "live and let live" and the concept of a place where EVERYONE (including those they don't like) have the total freedom to express themselves makes them feel uncomfortable. I don't think YOU are this way because you post your ideas and do your own thing but many females I know can't stand to be on the same site with someone they don't like whether they are communicating with them or not. Personsonally I don't think it was my presence that made Cynique angry this time but my expressing my belief that she found some of the men on this site attractive and got sexual energy off of her exchanges with us that perhaps made her feel "funny" or embarassed. I would have taken the statement back if I knew it would have gotten this reaction from her. Troy If I had the money, not only would I invest a lot of it into this forum but I'd also invest in your abilities to do other things like networking with and building more AfroAmerican book stores both online and physically. Perhaps even take things to another level like tarting an on-line independent film clubs for AfroAmericans similar to what you're doing for authors. You don't talk about your children on here much but if none of them are going to carry on your legacy then you need to find intelligent young minds whom you can trust to safely and successfuly transfer everything you've built and all the knowledge you've gained to. The Nation of Islam teaches that the concept of "godhood" is passed down from one man to the next as he takes everything he knows and passes it to another and then the next man not only possesses that knowledge but BUILDS upon it with the knowledge he accumulates and it goes so forth and so on generation after generation. Too often in this society individual AfroAmericans have to start from scratch because their parents and elders left them nothing to build from AND when they finally do build something and die, unless a White man steals it from them - what they know and build doesn't get passed down but just passes away with them.

Lol......what makes you so sure - what did YOU do to her?

Chev No, blonde hair and blue eyes doesn't come FROM Caucasians but it's a primary trait OF Caucasians because it's caused by a lack of melanin. Blue eyes is caused by the ability to see the blood vessels behind the pupils because there isn't enough melanin in the pupil to conceal them. Blonde hair is simply caused by a very low amount of melanin in the hair. You admit that these traits are recessive but you say they aren't defective, but by nature that which is recessive IS a bit defective because if a part of your body is recessive then it's not doing the job as well as it was designed to do. If you have blue eyes that are recessive they can't block out certain sun light rays as effectively as brown or black eyes. If you pale skin with no melanin then it's recessive and the skin isn't as protected as more melanated skin. Pioneer, you don't believe that many Black women today are also affected due to their own mothers who many are bi-racial or White? Well, if their mothers are White then THEY are't Black...they're mixed. So perhaps the probblems they're experiencing is the problems MIXED people may have trying to live AS Black people. As you know, we live in a society with the "one drop" rule that often tries to force people who are clearly White or mixed to live as Black anyway. If you aren't Black...you aren't Black...no matter what you are "called" or believe yourself to be and if you try to pretend otherwise it leads to confusion.

Because I knew I'd get the response he just gave....lol. Either that or a post consisting of just a link and no other context.

What are we ready for? Some of us....like me...are ready for success and prosperity and will see it. Others....are ready for further slavery, further humiliation, and even death. In my opinion, this is a time of Great Separation in the AfroAmerican community between those who are positive and believe in progress for our people and those who are negative and are essentially dead weight who not only slow down the progress of our community but also influences others toward negativity. When we separate ourselves from the negative among us we will see our community progress much quicker and much further.