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Like many wealthy Caucasian men, the motives of Bezos are MORE wealth so that he can have MORE control over this world. And like many rich (not wealthy) AfroAmerican men, the motives of Jay Z are to get closer to those wealthy Caucasian men AND to do what Neely Fuller calls SHOW-CASING. Showing off what little riches you have to other AfroAmericans to make yourself look superior and make them jealous.

Troy the prospect of collecting money from Africans for the slave trade makes Kareem's pipe dream sound completely plausible. Lol....well remember truth is often stranger than fiction. But I didn't say MONEY (although I wouldn't turn it down). I said LAND, GOLD, and BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES among other valuables. When Europeans colonized Africa they didn't come in looking for MONEY, but for those things that money BUYS that are far more valuable. They wanted land, resources (natural and human), precious metals, ect.... Reminds of what Malik Shabazz said, "We want some LAND...not some France!" I don't want a bunch of damn near worthless brightly colored bills with pictures of the queen of england on them! I want some of that LAND and RESOURCES you got overthere!

Coach Changing our mindsets is the key to to overcoming the negative media generated narratives about ourselves. That and mass media ownership. I sincerely believe that if we had atleast ONE major television network like ABC or NBC where you didn't have to pay or have special equipment to reach it but all yo had to do was sit down on the couch and turn on the set and you'd see US in all of our ups and downs......that alone would inspire our people to do better. I know a couple of brothers who told me they were inspired to become business owners because of watching The Jeffersons and how independant and successful George Jefferson was. 　 　 Kareem I've never seen one episode of Empire, Black-ish, You're not the only one. I haven't seen one episode of Empire, Stars, or Blackish....and have no plans or desires to.

Kareem That's some educational stuff right there. You're right. Homophilia is a much more accurate term. I'm going to run that by our editorial folks for our websites and start using it from here forward. As much as I would like to take credit for it, actually I got that term from ANOTHER brother. When he first said it I had to go to the dictionary and check the etymology of the words "phile" and "philia" and it made so much more sense. Homosexual simply means SAME SEX Hell, two men standing together are in a "homosexual" union. But if they like to have sex with women then they are heterophile. As far as the LGBT agenda....... It's just another form of population control. Unlike the past when they used to castrate African men and make them Eunuchs, today they put chemicals in the environment castrate or confuse them psychologically.

Kareem Your mentioning of doing business in Africa reminds me that Reparations aren't LIMITED to the United States, the rest of the Americas, or Europe.....but a lot of AFRICANS are going to have to pay up! Whether it's African nations or African tribe/ethnic groups or even certain families who were actively involved in the Ma'afa, they are going to have to break us off something REAL PROPER ! I'm talking land, gold, business initiatives, ect... And we better hurry up and get it because the Chinese are coming into Africa full force.

Kareem Yes sir, I'm aware of the foundations of the modern police departments of the United States and their origins as slave "patty rollers" and patrolers as well as their current official status as protectors of property and property owners. I guess having grown up in a Black city (Detroit) and seeing so many AfroAmericans in positions of power like Mayors, judges, police officers, and lawyers, ect.....it gave me a different perspective on the police than a lot of AfroAmericans from other parts of the country. i didn't grow up in the ghetto but in one of the many working class Black neighborhoods in Detroit so most of the police we saw WERE AfroAmerican and for the most part only got on the silly negroes who WERE actually committing crimes and being violent. Not to say there were no corrupt Black cops, but that wasn't the norm. Most of them were like "Officer Smitty" of Sanford and Son, lol. Coleman Young who was Mayor of the city at that time FORCED a more even and balanced police department and didn't allow Caucasian officers to patrol the city by themselves. In a sense he SHELTERED his AfroAmerican citizens from the vicious racism so many other AfroAmericans around the nation experienced. Even the concept of AfroAmericans having a hard life and stuck in the ghetto was FOREIGN to me as a kid because I saw AfroAmericans living in the hardest slums of Detroit AS WELL as in the nicest mansions and all points in between. It wasn't until I got old enough to start traveling myself and seeing how MOST AfroAmericans lived around the country and what they went through that things like NWA and other rappers were talking about began to make more sense. You didn't see Black men on the street homeless or begging in Detroit when I was a kid! I didn't see it in Chicago where we used to go. The first time I saw that shit was in Ohio....lol. Now you see Black men around the country homeless and begging. As far as more AfroAmerican police officers and even more AfroAmericans in the military......... I think that if we are in able to achieve not just the grunt positions but also the positions of POWER in these institutions.....then the good will outweigh the bad. During the riots of the 60s a lot of dust being kicked up was coming from the AfroAmerican men with military training fresh back from Vietnam. If they had never went into the military, they wouldn't have known what little they DID. As long as we LIVE in this society I think it's best to seek power in it at ALL levels for our own security and survival.

Troy Ok, I'll meet you half-way and agree that much of the time money is first on the agenda toward the more ultimate goal of power; however I think you're speaking more on an individual basis while I'm talking about the Caucasians in control collectively. They INVENTED the monetary system that we are dealing with today and they can add value to it or decrease it's value around the planet depending on how they see fit. That takes POWER. Money is just a MEANS to and end, but the end is POWER. How about this..... How about we can both agree that WEALTH is their ultimate goal because wealth INCLUDES money and power.....among other valuable things.

Troy Ok will do, though saying he is not as powerful as KRS1 is not exactly a selling point. I listened to some KRS1 video over the years and he is into that illuminati stuff... Lol.... If you live in THIS world, work, pay taxes, own property, and have received an education at one of the major universities YOU TOO are into that Illuminati stuff. The Illuminati are nothing more than the GENTILE (non-Jewish) leadership of Caucasian civilization. They are the Popes, Kings, Presidents, Entertainment and Financial CEOs, and other GENTILE power figures of much of the planet. Whether you believe in it or not it exists, but in reality is the Caucasians in power who are NOT Jewish nor part of the Illuminati are who you should really be concerned about....lol. Kareem You mentioned that Washington and the boys came to America to get away from the Illuminati, but I believe the Illuminati had OTHER plans. I believe they ALLOWED those Caucasians to come over here to establish the colonies KNOWING what would happen because they were "illuminated" enough to know WE would end up here as well. They already knew back then that AfroAmericans would play a very crucial role in the "new world" order. As far as Jiddena, perhaps you're correct. Perhaps he is working with an agena and/or perhaps his Caucasian mother and genetics may have had some sort of influence on his thinking or made him more inclined to accept or even promote homophilia. Here's a fairly insightful rebuke of his views by Dr. Wesley Muhammad:

Troy That's the very reasons why I didn't mention specific times. The entire inverview was decent from the start. It maybe got a little silly towards the end when they started talking more about hiphop and less about other wordly matters, but overall the enf It's not the MOST intellectually stimulating video in the world.....lol. I'm saying for this day and time and for a man his age to talk so intelligently about various subject that we may or may not agree with him on was refreshing to hear in my opinion. It's a BREAK from the silliness and ghetto buffoonery you often see in the rap world. It reminds me of KRS One and the knowledge he offers in his interview although this isn't nearly as powerful. I'm sure if youl clicked on it and listend to it while driving or doing other shit around the house you'll hear 2 or 3 comments that you may find interesting or even impressive.

Now this story I just saw on CNN is a great example of what I'm talking about. It displays "White priviledge" and the confidence that comes with knowing you have legal power on your side. https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/11/us/high-school-swimsuit-disqualified-alaska-trnd/index.html Here you have a Caucasian girl who basically wants to show off her ass and because she's being told not to her and her mother want to fight other Caucasians at her school who themselves want to govern people and tell them how to dress and what to wear! 2 groups of Caucasians, both with DOMINATING minds who don't want to be ruled over or controled by the other! But CNN will cover it and give this girl and her silly ass complaint some attention! You have lawyers and legal teams willing to jump in and take sides and argue for weeks and probably months over this crazy crap and she may even end up getting money for "sexual harassment" from her school! Now what if AfroAmericans had that type of power in this society? What if we had the power to sue the teacher if our child got a bad grade and convince the judge or jury that it was the teachers fault? What if a sister just wanted to walk down the street butt naked and if she got stopped by the police she'd turn around and sue and WIN because they denied her the freedom of expression?

Troy I don't see ANY of the current Presidents as being Christian, Muslim, or any other religion. They may USE religion to get votes and support, but the only rules they believe in are the rules of money and power. But as I've said time and time again, I'm not disappointed.....I expect this of them. Just like I wasn't disappointed by Obama, if Trump were to come on television tommorow morning with a Confederate flag draped in the background and declare a Civil War part 2 in America....I wouldn't be the least bit suprised. 　 In that regard the fight is similar to the fight for Black justice. But reasons for the injustice are very different, and because if this these fights should not be lumped together as if they were the same. It can't be made any clearer than this! 　 I also think it is confusing, and wrong, to lump all the alphabet people together as if being gay has anything to do with being transgender. I don't use that LGBTQIABCD+ term for the same reason. I agree with you 100%. I've often brought this argument up in community centers and other places where the subject comes up. They try to lump everything together and even include feminism in the bunch. Often times you'll see the feminist struggle lumped in with the LGBT struggle, and if I were a female I don't think I would like that very much because it reduces the focus on my issues. However, if I may sound a bit contradictory........ Many of these gender and sexual orientation catagories being promoted today actually DO have some scientific legitimacy. These various groups have always existed in this world, they just weren't acknowledged in the West because Western sociology and Caucasian sociology in general is VERY young and has a very simplistic way of seeing people where as older more indigenous cultures have many more categories to place people who don't neatly fit into a particular group. So outside of the chemicals being put in the environment to CAUSE a lot of sexual confusion, much of the problems you see today comes from this society's improper catagorization of people in the first place. Maurice I hear a lot of hate crimes being directed at gays. I find THAT horrendous. I despise paedophiles as much as the next person. Do you realize that outside of the West, in most nations homophilia is treated with the same type of revile and disgust as pedophilia, and in some cases more? In some Eastern societies 2 men caught engaging in a sex act will be taken and stoned to death, but a man is free to marry an 11 year old girl. And they feel just as strongly that THEY are right as you do that YOU are right.

You honestly believe that people who pretty much rule this world are just interested in making more money? If that was the case, why did your boy 45 want to be President? He could have made far more money staying out of office and focusing on managing his properties and businesses. They are after something much larger....much more grand.....than money.

Kareem, you mentioning your profession made me think about how vulnerable so many AfroAmericans are when it comes to legal protection in this system. Many of the Caucasians I know casually toss around the threat of suing people for this reason or that and often times they do. Sometimes they win, sometimes they lose, but most of the times it's settled out of court with atleast some benefit for them. But just that threat or ability to sue and having a lawyer (often times a family member or friend) argue for them was enough to get them SOMETHING. Meanwhile I know AfroAmericans who have had CRAZY shit happen to them on jobs, by the police, at the hospital....didn't have the money and didn't have lawyer friends, much of the time they were just S.O.L. And while they may help their Caucasian friends sue over the sillies things, many Caucasian lawyers will refuse a case by an AfroAmerican unless they feel it could be open-shut and rake in big bucks. If not.....they don't want to even waste their time. How can we remedy this situation? I often daydream about what would happen in this society if AfroAmericans were confident that they could sue and WIN over any injustices and mistreatments they encounter whether it's at work, on the street, or when it comes to family situations. I'm sure people would think twice about calling the cops on a brother walking through a park if they figured not only would he sue any police officers involved in detaining him, but also sue whoever called the cops in the first place, AND sue the dispatcher for entertaining such a frivolous call.....causing ALL of them to either lose their jobs and/or pay some money! What if you could sue the local police department for neglect because gangs exist in your community....and actually WIN the lawsuit? What if every AfroAmerican parent who had a fat child were able to sue McDonalds for contributing to a medical condition and WIN? Man, imagine if AfroAmericans had the type of legal power that if your cousin was shot and killed over a dice game in the hood, YOU could still sue the manufacturer of the gun and/or bullets used in his murder and WIN!

I think changing the inner narrative is a great start. A habit I had to break a long time a go and still occasionally find myself engaging in every once in a while is that "negative scenario" game where you want to do something but you talk yourself out of it by playing the same scene of it ending in failure over and over again. -You see yourself being denied the promotion you asked for. -You see that girl dissing you or laughing in your face after you ask her out. -You see the car salesman turning you down to buy that car you want. None of this shit has actually happened, but you've just played it over and over again in your mind and you figure you might as well not even try. I had to tell myself (sometimes literally) that I can plan all I want and anticipate this or that, but the fact is I don't know WHAT the outcome will be until I actually try doing what I set out to do. The biggest fight you ever have is the fight inside yourself.

I recently was made aware of an interview of an up and coming rapper named Jidenna (half Caucasian and half African) and he was pretty well spoken on a number of subjects including religion, sexuality, and the state of African peoples world wide. During the first part of the interview he pretty much sums up my position on how vulgar a lot of females are portrayed in today's rap culture but his commentary on other subjects were equally as interesting. I didn't agree with them all, but I found it a bit refreshing to hear young rappers articulate their opinions about society with a degree of intelligence.

Alright....... Well, after seeing a particular post that you "liked" in another thread, I think I have a pretty good idea of what's going on now. It seems that once again, the "usual suspects" are applying their Tricknology tactics to divide, conquer, and break up the Black family. It seems that "Gog and Magog" (lol...you like that Chevdove?) are once again making mischief in the land among the Original people.....lol.

Delano It's implied( like cultural funding) that it is for the target audience. They thought the same thing about Affirmative Action. It was IMPLIED that it would help AfroAmericans move up the economic ladder, but in all actuality far more Caucasian women have benefitted from it than AfroAmericans. We need to be more direct and specific in what we want and are trying to achieve. Kareem I like what you said about us having a portion of land set aside for ourselves. I'm just wondering should we establish it in the United States. Don't get me wrong, I'm NOT talking about all of us packing up and leaving. This is OUR country and OUR land. But I'm seriously thinking about us having dual citizenship status that allows us to own wealth, property, and hold office in the United States AND around the world! Look at Israel and how so many Jews in the United States have dual citizenship and can benefit from both nations. Chev Well, maybe, but we need to try again because Education and Jobs are essential to survival. The education most essential to survival are SKILLED TRADES , HEALTH CARE, and AGRICULTURE. And THAT is the type of education that we as AfroAmericans need to focus on getting, like Booker T. Washington started us off to doing. All of this "IT" and computer programming garbage so many of our people are going to college for is a real waste of time in my opinion. It's for people who ALREADY have a well established society and are now focused on having fun and fine tuning it. The average AfroAmerican with a Master's degree has $50,000 worth of student loan debt and can even grow a tomato or fix a pothole in his driveway. This "educated" negro has to beg some half-educated poor white man in a t-shirt and raggedy jeans to come to his house and fix his driveway or he'll end up begging ANOTHER half-educated white man with confederate flag tattoos all over his damn arms to fix the damage to his car caused by the pot hole....LOL.

Troy I'm talking about since Hollywood was invented! Since AfroAmerican women have been featured in Hollywood, although many of them have been portrayed in deragatory and disgusting roles.....it is MY opinion that if you compare the two AfroAmerican women have been portrayed much more negatively in these hiphop videos and in hiphop in general these last 30 years than they have been portrayed in Hollywood since it's inception. Can you name me a movie produced or directed by Caucasian men that has refered to AfroAmerican women as "bitches" and "hoes" more than Dr. Dre's Chronic album? .....she bound to drizzown.

Chev We need to try to understand the origin of this strange phenomenon. I think I DO understand the origin. And I'm trying to get YOU to understand too, but I don't think you want to hear it...LOL. Now I do agree that some issues about us as human beings can be expressed from a genetic basis, for example, when a person is born with mental retardation. When I teach, I can see that some children show a unique high intellect, but it is not based on COLORISM though. If children are placed in a certain environment, positive or negative, this can be a factor in how they develop. A child with a high intellect can be born and reared in an oppressive environment, but will still show some form of high intellect, however, they may not be able to achieve to a higher level due to other humans and, a child with a low intellect can be born and reared in a structured learning environment and no matter what, that child will not show a high intellect! In other words...... If a child is born predisposed to a low intellect then NO MATTER WHAT environment they are raised in they will not show signs of high intelligence; and likewise if a child is born with an intellect high enough then NO MATTER WHAT environment they are raised in or what adversities they face they will still shine through and show high intelligence. I know this already, so let's apply it to racism. Using your analogy, if a person is born predisposed to being a racist then no matter where they go on the planet an no matter whom they come into contact with we will find them engaging in racist behavior. Unless you can show me documented cases in history where Caucasians have lived in peace and harmony with their neighbors of color anywhere on this planet.....wouldn't we have to conclude that Caucasians (collectively atleast) are PREDISPOSED to a racist mentality? But this child in this youtube is showing that she has been conditioned. This has nothing to do with instinct. Her parents should be ashamed of themselves. Ashamed????? Why would her parents be ashamed of teaching their daughter early on how to perform her duties as a White Supremist? Good heavens! Why.....they should be PROUD of their achievements! Do you know most Caucasians don't really understand the responsibilities and duties expected of a fully matured adult racist until they are in thier teens and early 20s?

Kareem Obama was their most powerful weapon. He emasculated black Americans AND sent more troops into African nations than Bush did. He basically re-colonized Africa and diaspora Africans. But hey, at least his liberals and Zionists love him. Brother when Presidents are PLACED (not elected) into office they're usually put in that position to accomplish 2 agendas during their term: 1. A Foreign agenda 2. A Domestic agenda Obama's being an AfroAmerican served a crucial purpose for both agendas that the powers who put him in wanted to accomplish and those were: 1. For the Foreign agenda he was to convince more African nations to allow more U.S. troops in like you said. 2. For the Domestic agenda he was to get the majority of AfroAmericans to accept homophilia and transgenderism. BTW, I consider myself Liberal (in the classical sense) but I'm not too crazy about him....lol. Especially when he went to Flint and did a photo-op with a racist Republican Governor who tried to poison that predominately AfroAmerican city. You alluded to it here and in another thread. Polygamy should be legal in the USA. In fact, I'm a paralegal and prepare a lot of court documents for corporate and criminal lawyers. If there's ever a black man and 3-4 black women who all want to be married, I'd write all their court briefs for free until it got to the Supreme Court. They would have to legally recognize polygamous marriages based on the same arguments that used for homosexual marriage. They ruled that "one man one woman" was discriminatory and violated equal protection. Thus one man/three women should also be legal. The difference is that polygamy is a historically African tradition, while homosexuality is historically European. So you can do the math there. But it'd be fun to use their own words against them. The gay marriage push a few years ago would have been an EXCELLENT opportunity for AfroAmerican men to have promoted the legal right of polygamy. If we were united and on point we could have used it as political leverage for a compromise and said we would support the right of homophiles to get married IF and only IF you legalize polygamy also. Perhaps a Constitutional argument can be made about the issue. Meaning, forget about all these little local and state bullshit laws banning this and banning that....what does the CONSTITUTION allow us to do or prohibit us from doing? Maurice I think i can smell homophobia here and I've got to be honest, I don't like it. By the way, I'm straight. Lol.... Damn, you mean you're MORE offended by what's being said about homophiles (a more accurate term than "homosexual") on this site than what's being said about White people??????? I'll let Chevdove and Kareem speak for themselves, but as for me I don't think "homophobia" is the corrrect term to use. I don't fear or even dislike homosexuals as a group. I just see homophilia as a sexual abnormality that shouldn't be treated like a racial or sexual group. However personally I have no problem with them engaging in whatever they want as long as they aren't trying to FORCE their behavior on others. Also, it should be pointed out that the anti-homosexual views are not reflective of this site in general. Troy has on many occasions expressed his disagreement on my positions and comments on homophiles and homophilia in general.

Troy That picture you put up is a PERFECT example of what I mean about "slutty" and vulgar. A picture of women calling themselves "bad bitches" and making grim mean-mug faces. The titties exposed are alright with me (they're a little too small and too firm IMO...but they'll due..lol). It's the NEGATIVE ATTITUDE and the push to purposefully be immoral and "bad" that I have a major problem with because now you're promoting immorality as attractive and encouraging our girls to be wicked and evil. That's straight up SATANIC. It reminds me of that biblical verse that goes something like, "Fear not him who can just destroy the body, rather fear him who can destroy both body and soul in hell". You ask me about a motive for promoting this garbage? More so than the money, I think many of these wicked beasts are trying TRICK as many AfroAmerican youth into living an immoral lifestyle as they can hoping that they will lose Divine Salvation and end up in a terrible place.

But let me throw this one at ya Harry....... We certainly aren't where we need to be.....but if you have THOUSANDS of AfroAmerican police officers, deputies, sheriffs, lawyers, judges, and congressmen in this nation....and AfroAmerican men are STILL over represented in the penal system, then who should bare the MOST responsibility for this? If The SUPREME BEING gives you favor and puts you in positions of power to actually make changes and do something about your situation, and instead of changing the system you GO ALONG with the agenda of your enemy and uphold the very corrupt system that is destroying you.....who's fault is this? If we look at MODERN history....outside of the Haitian Revolution, I don't recall reading about a group of people who started off in slavery and rose to as much power as quickly as AfroAmericans did in this nation. And what are they doing with the little bit of power they were blessed to achieve? I often wonder.....seriously....do AfroAmericans want liberation and prosperity, or do they just want Caucasians to "like" them and accept them? Do they want to LEAVE the plantation, or do they just want to be treated more kindly on the plantation?

You may be leaving but the Caucasian racists who monitor this site ain't leaving anytime soon. I'm sure they're still lurking in the shadows. No matter how bored they get or offended they get....they'll be there because they have a job to do. Well..... Believe it or not, unlike Cynique's departure which I was "slightly" disappointed over but pretty much indifferent about because of her constant confrontational demeanor....I actually don't want to see you go. Unlike Cynique who would often TRY to piss me off, you often did it without knowing any better....lol. So I knew there was no malice behind it. Before your final exit, I don't suppose you'd care to engage us with SPECIFICS about what you considered hateful and fear rhetoric on this forum?

But the cops were on the imperialists' side and killed the armed brothers before they could help their families and neighbors. This is one of the reasons I'm so much in favor of more AfroAmericans joining the police force at all levels of government as well as helping to write and make the laws that this society operates by. As long as you're in a victim's POSITION you're subject to being victimized.

Chev White Supremacy began long before 4000 years ago, by some 'BEING' that wanted to be WHITE because he began to believe that White was more superior than his being black!... and so this BEING was MUTATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The beginning of PURE ALBINISM. So because of his agenda we in this world are affected; his justification of White Supremacy is a taught behavior and a conditioing that we, whether white or black, continue to carry on. Are you talking about Yacub?