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ProfD Right. That somebody made up rules/laws that were broken. It is downhill for people who transgress. I won't disagree. However Black people in the United States are in the position that we can actually make and enforce our own laws. The Palestinians are arguably MORE oppressed than Black Americans...at this particular point...yet they have their own police with their own laws. Nothing is stopping US from developing our own policing organizations and crafting our own laws in certain jurisdictions. In previous dialog, you question the intelligence of Black folks. I still contend that fear of death keep Black folks in check. If we were intelligent and knowledgeable enough....that fear would dissipate. Have you ever heard of a genius fearing a retarded person? When you can easily out think your rival/opponent/enemy, fear of them becomes illogical. That is why there is hardly ever a violent protest led by Black folks. You get them from time to time, but like we both say....many Black folks are COMFORTABLE living under this system. They don't want to protest it because they enjoy it. Brotha Gregory said we can sit back and watch white folks implode on themselves. Even THAT is a dangerous strategy. They tried it already back during the first Trump administration, but it didn't implode. It's like a man who's sentenced to triple life in prison and he points to 2 Corrections Officers arguing with eachother as evidence that the prison system is going to "collapse" any day now. Not realizing how organized not only the prison he's in...is...but how organized the state wide prison system is.

Cynique I'm done. Yeah right. You can't resist....lol. Troy I even spent a day on Captial Hill working with lobbyists to reduce credit card swipe fees Are you serious? I'm sure you're a computer expert, but I'm curious as to why they would tap you for that project.

Dick Gregory became quite agitated with people, especially if you weren't picking up on his message.....as he got older. He used to cuss folks out in interviews for being too slow, lol. Say what you want, but he was on point and much of what he was saying we're JUST NOW bearing witness to it. When it comes to things like chem-trails, atrazine being put in the water and manganese being used to make people violent...... Many Black Conspiracy Theorists are just now getting hip to it because they're listening to the White Conspiracy Theorists who've been talking about this for the past 15 or 20 years. But my man DICK GREGORY has been talking about these same conspiracies for 40 AND 50 years! A lot of White folks actually got THEIR information from HIM.

Man, what's the world coming to....... He allegedly died from Pancreatic Cancer, which is said to be very painful. I hope our brother is resting in peace and is free from his suffering. I remember Brown Sugar. And when I hear, for some reason I also think of Domino's "Sweet Potato Pie"....lol. Most of the ladies remember D'Angelo's "How Does It Feel" video when he came on nearly naked grinning and licking his lips and shit, lol.

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I don't care how old you are, I got you wrapped around my finger like a school girl....lol. 🤨 -I can get any type of reaction I want out of you and everybody on this forum can see that. If I were as bad of a guy as you make me out to be, I would have taken advantage of this fact a LONG time ago.

Cynique As I said before, I know people. You....apparently don't.....lol. Let me "hip" you a little bit to what people actually DO find offensive.............. I'm almost sure Mel doesn't take offense to my teasing of her wedding pictures and videos. But what she probable DOESN'T like is us going back and forth insulting each other in her thread, lol. The difference between me and you is I realize this and do it reluctantly....you don't. Lol....because you don't know any better.

ProfD Why are they locked up? Good question. I would say various reasons: -Some are innocent and couldn't afford proper legal representation -Some are guilty of the crimes they were accused of and should be in -Some are guilty of the crimes that shouldn't be "crimes" at all But to answer your question directly: They are locked up because SOMEBODY locked them up. Somebody with more power than them. Black folks have had at least a whole century to come up with an alternative to the system of racism white supremacy. And we have. Not only have our people come up with AN alternative; but through out the centuries we've come up with MULTIPLE alternatives! But there are 2 major problems standing in the way: 1. Those multiple alternatives from multiple people is a sign of the DISUNITY that exists among us and prevents so many of us from choosing the BEST alternative and focusing on it to replace the System of Racism 2. The System of Racism has been so strong and dominant that it's been hard to get any alternative system going. Black folks do not seem interested in practicing group economics and politics in a manner similar to the Jews. They don't seem "uninterested" to me. They seem VERY interested in how other ethnicities practice group economics. The INTEREST and DESIRE are certainly there. It's the ABILITY of our people to do the same, that I call into question....for the reasons I stated earlier. Black folks have seemingly found a comfortable spot making it under the system of racism white supremacy What "alternative" do we have, at this point?

My understanding of it is that it was and still is a TACTIC of warfare. Slavery practiced in the United States was the worse form in history. However the "typical" slavery as practiced around the globe through out history involved capturing enemy combatants that you haven't killed....along with their families, and putting them to work for you or your tribe/nation for the rest of their lives. Their children...if they had any....were usually born free and even allowed to join the dominant community in some cases. Some argue that enslaving your enemy was better than killing them. Others say it was worse because it humiliated them. Not sure one way or the other.

Mel we've engaged in conversation on this board for the past 15 years Wow, has it been THAT long???? Kids have went to school and grown up during that time, lol. but have I ever asked you to share a photo Unlike SOME people on this board who constantly ask to see my picture....no. Stiil, I answered you because of who you are and how you present yourself. Mel, I already know that. You already know how I feel about White men with Black women and I wouldn't dare ruin the vibe bringing that up. The problem is Cynique aka The Contradiction....lol. -She doesn't understand people, or how to talk to them! -She doesn't understand what IS appropriate and what is NOT appropriate or what may SEEM inappropriate but actually not offensive depending on the context. -She doesn't understand how a person can ask question ABOUT a person without it being TOO personal. -Because SHE often crosses the line with people and insults people and offends people with HER statements and questions, she makes the mistake of assuming EVERYBODY has that same problem....lol. She simply doesn't understand HOW to properly talk to people with respect and understanding. Which we all understand about her...lol. So when she start apologizing to you for not actually taking time to type out a post of congratulations and compliments for your daughter's wonderful wedding ceremony....I assured her that you were NOT offended! And HOW did I know you were NOT offended? Because like me....you also "know" Cynique and how she is. It's for the same reason she EXPECTED and WANTED you to get offended at the questions I asked and the comments I made. And got MAD AS HELL when you didn't...lol. Poor girl even SNAPPED on you! " Well EXCUSE ME for taking up for you when Pioneer was asking those inappropriate questions he had no right to ask! I won't do that again!" She wanted you to go off on a brutha...lol. His hair is now gray, but he's a straight, Nordic-type, blonde-haired, blue-eyed man, standing at 6 feet 2 inches. Now, as I ponder why yall had a dog in a bow-tie (:09mm).... I wonder why you felt the need to include "straight" as part of his description? I thought that would be a given.

ProfD Sure. They were not building personal wealth though. Only enriching the Nation of Islam. Many if not most "Nation of Islam businesses" actually ARE personal businesses. Because the owners are members of the Nation of Islam and usually patronized and frequented by NOI members, it's often considered an "NOI Business". Like most religious organizations, the Nation of Islam did not generate wealth for its adherents. Only the highest folks in it see real money. I wasn't around to see the Nation of Islam under Elijah Muhammad but I heard it actually did generate a lot of wealth for it's members as individuals, especially by taking them off the streets, off drugs and alcohol, and teaching them how to generate money for themselves. It's like that old saying about GIVING a man a fish vs TEACHING him how to fish. Rather than passing out money to it's members like candy, sometimes just getting them out of prison and off drugs is the most valuable things that could have happened to them. The wealth will blossom from that. umbrarchist LOL... Who actually NEEDED a video to convince them that cars today were built with parts designed to wear out and fail? I won't call it common sense, but it's certainly basic wisdom for most people over 40 who's had normal life experience.

Well..... That Bible condones and even promotes slavery as a curse. The question is...WHO should be enslaved? The Bible doesn't necessarily say that Black people or any specific race be the slaves, so Black folks could just as easily use the Bible to justify White Slavery.

You may be studying me....lol....but I'm not paying you any attention.

Mel What's inappropriate is another person telling YOU how YOU should react to or feel about.

Saturday Night??? This ain't the 50's anymore...lol. Nobody does things on a Saturday Night that they can't do on a Tuesday Night.

Apparently my "sophmoric" comedy is enough to keep YOUR attention....lol.

And you're right here with me; so what does that say about YOU. You remind me of a homeless lady sitting on the sidewalk yelling at other people walking by to "get their life together".....lol.

Looks like the raid got YOU....lol.

.....which indirectly suggests that YOU had me (or wanted me). You and your Freudian slips....lol.

I'm not an authority on hornets, but I know if you keep fucking with that hornets nest we wont see any post from you for a while....lol. "You told her. She better take her happy ass in the house and find something to do!"

I can believe it. Because we have "thread crashers" here on this forum! ....walking embarrassments who have nothing better to do but run around the neighborhood in their robe and slippers taking pictures of the moon and cussing at bees who are up in the tree minding their own beeswax. Now you STILL haven't told us about these wedding crashers! What exactly did they do? Did they come to the ceremony and raise a ruckus while you were in that room checking your "rear view"??? BTW..... Ever since I saw that picture I've been meaning to ask you SEVERAL questions...in person....when you find the time....LOL.

Trust me, she knows. We ALL know. .....you don't know any better.

Although I basically agree with this statement, for the sake of discussion.......... 1. Over the past several decades a lot of Black people.....too many....didn't make it. They aren't here to explain they the system DIDN'T work for them. 2. Many Black folks are still around but are locked up. This system isn't working too well for them either. Far more than 20% of Black America is doing fairly well even in this society, however again....for the sake of discussion....if we have a system with only a 20% success rate..... Meaning only 20% of the population actually LIVE and stays out of prison, and can actually make a living for themselves. ONLY 20%. Should we try to keep that system or should we try to build a new one with a higher and more acceptable success rate?

ProfD People are lazy for any number of reasons. Go to any Nation of Islam temple and you'll find plenty of Black men who USED to be lazy and indifferent to work and success in general. However when you step into the temple you see clean cut, well dressed, industrious men who walk briskly and are all about business. Why? They have a purpose. I can't speak for others, but I'm convinced that the major reason for laziness among Black Americans is the belief (righteously held) that their hard work if often in vain. No matter how hard you work for your enemy they're not going to like you and you won't see the success you deserve, so most figure "why even try????" If you notice, I constantly make reference to the Nation of Islam. I don't find too many other Black organizations who can match their record of progress and reformation among Black Americans.

Don't be fooled. They LOVE Trump and Conservatism over in Europe. All over Europe Trump is their CATHARSIS. They tap him and the United States to do the "dirty work" that they feel they're too sophisticated to do They only PRETEND to be liberal and progressive, when it's convenient. It's easy to be liberal and progressive when there are no Black people or people of color period around to practice discrimination against. But as soon as those same liberal mined Europeans see a White woman pushing a baby carriage full of little brown curly headed kids, then the liberal/progressiveness begins to evaporate and you see more and more race riots, conservative legislation, dismantling of social services, etc......