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ProfD Not sure what confident brothas being locked up has to do with this situation. Because sometimes confident people often act without fear or hesitation. Which means they may not properly think their actions....and the potential consequences...all the way through. Walking up to a woman you don't know, putting your arms around her waist, and asking her for her phone number is a CONFIDENT move. However, if things go sideways...the consequences could be dire. Bro, you're taking it too literally. There is a tactful way to ask direct questions. Lol, because you PUT it literally. I thought you meant just that. A less than confident dude or one can't handle his own bizness wouldn't approach a woman directly. Maybe not, but atleast when he goes home lonely...he gets to GO HOME. And not to jail, lol. Among other things....I'm a musician. We see women do all types of things I've seen women run up dudes bar tab and leave them dry. Those same women would leave the club with us musicians for FREE. They'd even help pack up equipment. But you've already established a report and foundation with them as they see you as an artist and musician. They know you. They know something about you. ...as opposed to some nigga in a white short-set hook up and some alligator sandals with a toothpick in his mouth sliding up to a woman, looking her in her eyes, and asking how much would it cost for her to let him "beat that thang up" for a good 30 minutes and possibly longer if the price is right. Lol....what's the STARTING rate?

frankster Yes the do feed off each other... Comes back to Greed.... The Provider and or Purveyor of such Goods and Services is Destroying the Social Fabric of a Community for Profit. Do you think this is INTENTIONAL? Meaning, do you think there is MALICE involved in what you call destroying the social fabric of the community? Or do you think it's just for profit and they simply DON'T CARE about the community? The Abuser of Such Goods and Services....Without the Provider Such activities Will not exist - at least dramatically reduced will have nowhere but legitimates sources to exercise Such Activities What do you mean? If these high interest loan sharking businesses ceased to exist, what other places CAN they go for quick cash besides a pawn shop with their or someone else's valuables? Those who fell from Riches into Poverty are far and away outnumber by those who are born into Poverty created and maintained by a System I won't argue that point. However that doesn't let the parents off the hook for engaging in reckless and stupid behavior that not only landed THEMSELVES in poverty but also bringing children into a world of poverty, suffering, and humiliation that many will spend the rest of their lives in through no fault of their own. True...that is the Barbarity/Barbarization we currently live in Civilization on the other hand tries to protect the weak and the strong. While I agree that civilization is SUPPOSED to protect the weak, I wouldn't say ensuring that your nation is strong and not weak and is well protected is a sign of barbarism. It's common sense. It's a balance. Like your scriptures say, there's a: -time for love and a time for hate -time for peace and a time for war That's why the American Eagle has an olive branch in one claw and a bundle of arrows in another. Ready for Peace or War Engaging in war and stockpiling weapons doesn't necessarily make you barbaric when there are legitimate threats out there. More Weapons do not equate to more Security.... Correct, especially if you don't know how to use them or use them against EACHOTHER. Look at many African nations. They are armed to the teeth, but are very unstable and the men are fighting with EACHOTHER. While the Arabs and Chinese are coming in snatching up land and resources left and right. It's not JUST about the weapons but the brains behind them. Gives you a criminal record....your chances of being gainfully employed is severely reduced. Incarceration negatively impacts on individuals and their families physically financially and psychology. Loss of time...reduces your ability to learn a profession or trade and gain experience. Exactly. So it would behoove a person to TRY to stay out of trouble as much as possible so that they will lessen their chances of running into negative experiences with law enforcement, getting a criminal record, or having legal problems....all of which can lead to poverty or KEEP a person in poverty. True.. But then that is encouraging and perpetuation the idea and fact that they are individuals above the Law Donald Trump is walking talking PROOF that some people are indeed above the law. Not if it is her first day....then you become part of the Cause If the first loan you are taking....then payday loan is the cause of you entering into a Debt Trap. But if you had to take the loan in the first place, then that means you were already strapped for money and living in a state of "want" if not poverty itself. The payday loan place was only there to provide a service for you but the problem you are dealing with exists OUTSIDE of them. If they weren't there as a service, you'd STILL likely be strapped for cash and needed to find a place to get some. The real question is, why are you so strapped for quick cash? Because this has implications of the causes and generation of Poverty Can you dig it? It's dug. That hole was already dug before you grabbed the shovel...lol. Most people already know about the school to prison pipeline and how they can tell how many inmates they'll receive based on how many drop out of school. That's old news. Nor do I disagree with it or say it's not legitimate. And yes this IS a major cause of poverty, both generational and individual. You are teaching crime and violence to the youths who grow up in that life....by criminalizing their culture and normalizing violence. Although the influence is strong, it's still a CHOICE for most. Are you with me? I'm not "with" you, but I see where you at and what direction you're headed. I'm watching from above...lol. They are being Underserved and being done a Disservice do you feel me? No-homo...lol You're right, they are being under served and this too leads to poverty and the maintenance of poverty. I agree with this. True....then you must accept the consequences of sexual promiscuity and immorality Immorality is a SUBJECTIVE term. What YOU may consider immoral may not be to another individual. Especially one who doesn't have a religion. When it comes to a consenting man and woman, my idea of immorality depends on whether or not they are practicing "safe" sex and whether or not they take the necessary precautions to prevent unwanted pregnancy. In MY opinion.... Having a lot of sex isn't immoral. Spreading diseases and producing unwanted children is. They did not die because of the failure of Scripture.... but because of their involvement in Religion Politics or differing Philosophies. But the scriptures didn't save them either. So what good were they in THOSE particular situations? If they be Christians or Jews that means they are Already Involved Religion.... Scripture Shows the Way - you save yourself. Does those scriptures teach you how to FIGHT or how to MAKE WEAPONS so that you can ward off an enemy and subdue him? If not, how do the scriptures teach you to save yourself from a powerful enemy with advanced weaponry? It does not Encourage Real Growth in Production and Services. It Acts as a Trap to Low income Earners from whom a sizable percentage of their Wealth is taken. Robbing the Working class of both Leisure Time and Discretionary Funds.....An Opportunity Cost Coerced exchange of other Creative Investments Adding to the Money Supply directly leading to Inflation Payday Loans are usurious.....and the video directly shows and demonstrates its deleterious effects on Black Communities. But the fact that BLACK BANKS...which were the cornerstones of the Black economic communities that were scattered around the nation...practiced USURY. Again, if USURY were the problem...why were these Black communities where usury was practiced...so thriving and successful? Yes they are multiply causes of Poverty. Greed is the most direct cause...it effects can be seen in many other causes of Poverty I would say that Greed is a MINIMAL cause of poverty. It's more of an EXPLOITER of poverty, not a cause. Greed at the Retail level...High deceptive unfair gouging pricing and inferior Goods and Services. Yes, for people who actually have the money to spend on it! People in a state of destitution usually don't have that type of money. If you can't see the connection.... Then do you need a tutorial on how they connect? There's a difference between a CONNECTION and a CAUSE. There's a CONNECTION between excessive lottery spending and poverty. But spending money on lottery tickets doesn't CAUSE poverty. Most people who are poor will be poor whether they spend what little excess cash they have on the lottery or not. So it show the Government Knowingly Poisoning a Black Community - in other words destroying it basic human infrastructure Crack destroys Communities Families and Individuals - Those are First and Primary Causes of Poverty Do you agree? or understand the above? I understand and agree to a certain extent though I would say that the first and primary causes of poverty are different for different individuals. For some it's drugs. For others it's poor financial decisions. For others, they're born into it. For others, it's debt from legal and other problems. And for others it's just being plain stupid and of low intelligence. But you STILL didn't prove that GREED causes poverty. Those are Secondary Causes Over Policing and Criminalization of the Poor and Black Culture....leads to Social Dysfunctions For some, it's a primary cause. A lot of people are in homeless shelters right now because of criminal records and legal problems that prevent them from making a decent living for themselves. You can not stay out of Trouble....When you are both being Program to Violent React and the Target of Oppressive Policies. You're posting these messages to me right now and I'll presume you're living in the United States. Did YOU manage to stay out of trouble? Or are you posting these messages from behind the walls of some sort of institution? It does if it is the same subject matter we are discussing....or have a close corroborative and causal link Subject matter is - Causes of Poverty Correct. And you keep insisting that GREED is the cause if not one of the major causes and I say it's not. In the USA Native Americans Africans Americans and Hispanic American suffer the Most from and the Worst forms of Poverty I agree. But it's not because of Greed. That's why i try not to give long Answers...my answer are straight forward to the point. Yeah, but it's often the WRONG or DIFFERENT point...lol. I make a statement like...the street gangs and the violence and crime they commit are harming the Black community. And in response you'll post a video about how Fred Hampton tried to unite the street gangs of Chicago. The video may be factual and interesting but it doesn't negate or counter or even address the point I just made. It's just a lot of information being PUT OUT.

ProfD It's often used like any other form of medication...drugs and alcohol. True. Which means that LIKE alcohol and drugs...it CAN be therapeutic and helpful, if practiced properly. Poor white folks could use class as an excuse but it still comes down to greed. When companies outsource Jobs to other countries or robotics or AI, it leaves the population jobless. No job. No money. Poor. Poverty leads people to self-medicate in different ways and/or resort to crime. Is that a valid excuse for poor Whites to engage in rampant meth use until their teeth fall out or they end up destroying half the trailer park with their janky meth-labs???? These are decisions THEY made to deal with their poverty. Other people deal with poverty by focusing on religion, or furthering their education, or other means. Yet, no matter how successful a few, their home country in the case of places like Haiti, Caribbean and African countries are still f8cked. I was having a discussion with a Kenyan brutha the other day and he was talking about how some people in his nation still have dirt floors because they are so poor. I asked him, "Do they WANT regular floors or do they actually want dirt floors?" He looked at me crazy and said, "Ofcourse. Who wants to live or sleep on the bare ground? But the people are so poor they can't afford one" I said, "What's stopping them from going to the forest, cutting down trees, making wooden planks and laying them across the floor of their home so that atleast they'll have SOME sort of floor and their ass won't be scraping the ground when they go to bed?" He kept saying that I don't live there so I don't understand. He's right, I don't live there...but I know bullshit when I smell it. A lot of our people are fucked up out of LAZINESS and lack of ambition. Sitting around waiting on White folks to do for them what they SHOULD be doing for themselves. Many of the people in these nations are unemployed, which means they aren't working. But they're young and healthy and can EASILY get their asses off the streets corners and shacks and get out into the woods, cut lumber, and FIX UP their houses and make floors for themselves! They don't do it. Many of them are too busy sitting around on milk-crates smoking cigarettes waiting on their government to distribute foreign aid to them or relatives who live abroad to send them money. Not all...but too many. Those are facts. Much of their poverty comes out of LAZINESS and LACK OF AMBITION. Greed made the people poor in the 1st place. The system keeps them there. Not using the creativity you were Divinely given also makes and keeps people poor. They're using the lack of AMERICAN or EUROPEAN money/currency as an excuse to sit around and do nothing when they can actually work just as hard for RESOURCES as they can for actual currency. If your community needs food you can get out and grow food because you need it, not just because you're being paid to. There's always exceptions. Some folks get lucky enough to make it out of a bad situation. Can you give me 2 examples of people YOU KNOW PERSONALLY who went from rags to riches? The people aren't poor because as a homogenous society, they inherently take care of each other. So is Haiti, yet they're poor. So is Guatemala, yet they're still poor. Bangladesh is also homogenous, yet their still poor. So there must be another factor or factors. He got lucky when a gay, white Jew man loaned him $40 million dollars to bring him into the Hip-Hop cash cow. President Obama said "luck" is when Opportunity meets Preparedness. That man couldn't have loaned ANY fool $40 million and expected the same results. He knew to loan it to a man smart and ambitious enough to actually DO SOMETHING with it. You may want to study how wealth is accumulated. Are you saying it's NOT accumulated through proper decision making? Lottery tickets are not an investment strategy. Its no different from gambling. Totally based on chance and luck. But still, that chance is there. It's better than spending your money on illegal drugs which offers NO chance of increasing your wealth. Not true. Again, study wealthy people if you truly want to understand how they got it. Again, are you saying that people who GOT wealthy didn't do so from making certain decisions that led them towards wealth? Amassing and maintaining wealth requires a certain amount ruthlessness which is fueled by greed and power All of this sounds like a matter of a person making certain DECISIONS concerning their behavior and how they interact with and treat others on their road to riches.

I'm wondering where does the state Attorney General Miss Leticia James fit into all of this? If the state government supersedes the city government, it seems that SHE could step in and straighten this shit out....IF she were on Adams' side.

ProfD Promiscuity is a problem for impoverished people. Poor and broke folks have zero business procreating. Promiscuity doesn't necessarily lead to procreation. I don't think people should be INTENTIONALLY having and raising children in an impoverished environment. But sex is a biological need for most people and is a usually free form of recreation and therapy IF properly practiced. Are white Americans in poverty due to making bad choices? Some are, some aren't. The same can be said about people of EVERY race to a lesser or greater degree. Now, poor Whites can't use the element of racism to explain their poverty, but alcohol abuse and drug addiction or stupidity can. Haiti has been impoverished for centuries. I believe the French had more to do with it than Haitian parents. Haiti may be impoverished as a nation but there are PLENTY of rich Haitians. Not to mention the thousands if not millions of Haitians living abroad making money and gaining skills who could do more to improve their home country. In fact, I know more folks who went from rags to riches. How were they able to do so in a system lead by greedy people and predatory lending institutions that MADE people poor? If they were born in rags, it would seem that the system of Greed would KEEP them in rags. Could it be THEIR PERSONAL DECISIONS that got them out of poverty? Theres a reason Scandinavian countries do not have an abundance of weapons or high crime rates or impoverished people. Yeah, the United States is PROTECTING their ass...lol. One of the reasons the U.S. spends so much money on weapons is because she is the police for the planet...or atleast of it. Western Europe doesn't need much of a military because after WWII the U.S. decided the best thing to do is to keep them disarmed while WE agree to protect them against any Soviet/Russian invasion. So they can AFFORD to spend most of their money on healthcare and education since they don't have to spend it on the military because WE keep them secure. There is zero poverty if resources are distributed equally across the population. Greed prevents it. First of all humans are programed to accumulate as much wealth and resources as they can to provide for themselves and their children and family and ENSURE provisions for the future. Like Puff Daddy said in "All About The Benjamins": "And what you can't have NOW...leave in your will" Also, WHO would be in charge o doing the "equal distribution"??? You correctly mentioned in other threads that it would be foolish to expect White folks to treat US the same as they treat their own people. So why expect THEM...if they're handling the resources...to equally and fairly distribute them? Wealthy people do not become so through any form of hard work. No, but if they GET wealthy (as opposed to being born into it) it's because of SMART work and proper decision making. Even if they hit the lottery, they made the decision to take a chance spending their money on the ticket and probably did so many times as a form of investment. But ACQUIRING wealth is usually an act of Divine Favor as well as proper decision making. It's very hard for working people to become wealthy. For most people, yes.

ProfD I know. I'm being a bit dramatic when I keep asking what did he do because the shit they're ACCUSING him of....like spending excessive money on trips and charging it to the city...are bullshit accusations that nearly every mayor or governor could be accused of if you chose to go after them. However, more so than the charges being leveled against him, it's how vehement so many people are to see this man's charges stick. Your superiors tell you to drop the charges and you want to see this man locked up or atleast found guilty and removed from office SO bad that you'd rather QUIT your job in protest?

ProD Riker's Island is a state run prison. Prison??? Are you sure? I thought it was just a jail or local detention center.

This Sunday morning while listening to some old Hiphop music I was listening to Onyx's "Slam" (stop tryna be as loud as ME cuz' you can't do dat) and one of the lines was: "Peace to the bruthaz on Ricker's Isle" Then I thought about these government officials who refused to drop the charges against Eric Adams and would rather resign instead to prove some sort of point or in the name of "justice" and then I thought about Riker's Island and the MANY THOUSANDS of men who have been locked up for month and months and in many cases YEARS in that fucking dungeon awaiting "trial". Many of them were killed or just died of natural causes in that jail not yet having their day in court for whatever they were initially arrested and accused of. Yet I didn't hear of ANY resignations over that situation. Not one. But the prosecution of Mayor Adams? THAT'S the hill they're willing to plant their flag and sacrifice themselves on? Such hypocrisy.

Troy I don’t buy into the whole idea that this is just about Eric‘s race. If he had not misbehaved, we wouldn’t be having this discussion. What did he do that was so wrong, that other mayors BEFORE him didn't do? Did he hurt somebody? Did he do physical harm to somebody or threaten them? What did the man do that makes him SOOOOOO dangerous that they just can't stand to see him being in office and just GOTTA make a point of prosecuting him??? It seems to me like they're engaging in SELECTIVE morality or SELECTIVE enforcement of the law or rules of conduct. You see this over and over again when it comes to the treatment of many Black men, whether you're talking about in the work place or when it comes to the law. They'll let White men get away with some things over and over again and even endear it and make it seem "cute" by saying things like: "Well...that's politics". or "You know, boys will be boys" But as soon as some Black man does it, ALL OF A SUDDEN they start growing halos over their heads and want "justice" to prevail. ProfD The charges were a political hit because Mayor Adams didn't tow the Democratic party line on immigration. Bingo However I think the fact that so many officials who decided to resign RATHER than drop the charges against him did so for racist or racial reasons. The Mayor didn't commit a violent crime or any other violent or sexual act, right? So why were these officials so adamant about prosecuting him? I keep asking.....what did he do that was soooooo wrong that he just MUST be prosecuted and tried and removed? What did the man DO???? Are you telling me that this is the FIRST TIME these people have been asked to drop charges against somebody? Or were they asked to do it for WHITE politicians or people in general and they gladly did it no questions ask, but they want to draw the line with the brutha in office? Come on man... Seriously? What did that man DO that you'd rather lose your job than just leave him alone???? What ever happened to, "Hey....just doing my job" ??? In this case they'd rather QUIT their damn job than do it, huh.

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ProfD Poverty leads to dysfunctional behaviors i.e. promiscuity, substance abuse, alcoholism and crime, etc. They feed off of eachother. Poverty often leads to those problems and THOSE problems often lead to poverty. Although I will argue that "promiscuity" isn't necessarily a problem or a vice unless you're religious and it's forbidden. People born impoverished did not put themselves at a disadvantage. They were born into a system. No brutha, people BORN into it didn't do it but their PARENTS probably did. How many people from wealthy and privileged backgrounds CHOSE to use drugs or drop out of school or engage in the street life and ended up in poverty because of those poor decisions and then had children who ended up suffering because of them. I bet YOU know of some just like I know of some. They weren't born into that situation because of some "system"; they were born into that situation because their PARENTS CHOSE a lifestyle that put them into that situation. ...and chose to HAVE THEM while in that debased state. But then that gets into abortion which is a different subject all together. Look no further than poorest countries around the planet. Greed rapes, pillages and plunders the weak. The lesson is....don't be weak, lol. The US already hss enough weapons to destroy the world several times over. Which is why the U.S. makes money SELLING her excess weapons. The US can afford to take of its citizens even if it never spent another nickel on weapons. Facts. Otherwise, the US hasn't worried about being invaded in almost 100 years. The US is the strongest super power on the planet. Yes. And if she stopped spending money on advanced weaponry, she wouldn't be for long...lol. She must be doing SOMETHING right if she hadn't been invaded in over 100 years..so keep doing what you're doing. frankster Video: Overpoliced and Underprotected: Policing in Communities of Color Ok, and what does this video have to do with the FACT that constantly running into law enforcement and legal issues is a major cause of poverty? We know that criminal defense should be free. I agree. However it's not, so a person should use some GOOD SENSE and avoid driving without insurance, without license, and cussing out the police over minor things....as much as they can to avoid legal problem if they know they aren't Donald Trump and can't get away with the shit. Video: How Wall Street Exploits Minorities w/ Payday Loans EXPLOITING poverty isn't the same as CAUSING poverty. If I see a prostitute on the corner and I pay her for sex, I'm EXPLOITING her. But I didn't MAKE her become a prostitute. She was that before doing business with me and will be that afterwards. It's the same with these loan shark businesses. Poverty existed BEFORE them and will exist AFTER them. .The "school-to-prison pipeline" refers to a system where school policies and practices, often including zero-tolerance disciplinary measures, disproportionately push students, particularly students of color, out of school and into the criminal justice system through suspensions, expulsions, and arrests, ultimately increasing their likelihood of future incarceration; essentially funneling them from the classroom to prison Man.... Why are you telling us this? We already know this? What does this have to do with what I just said about people CHOOSING to smoke crack and CHOSING to be a gangsta and engage in a life of violent crime? You're putting out a bunch of shit that SOUNDS good but has little to do with countering my argument. Video: Majority-Black school districts face funding gaps for their buildings OK, here we go again. More shit that we already know and SOUNDS good and hype....but again, how does this counter any argument I've made?????? The Money spend on weapons is way out of proportion to what is needed....based on what our next biggest weapons procuring Nations are spending.. So Again it is greedy Government Officials and Government Contractors who are defrauding the tax payers in order to line their pockets... Most Inner city suffer from subpar heath care housing blight and food deserts Facts. That money SHOULD be going to the people to help alleviate poverty. The fact that the government is spending more money on weapons it doesn't need than on it's people is a FACTOR in poverty, but not the only one. It all depends on what you do with your suffering or boredom. Most of the time if a person is suffering bad enough, it affects their thinking. Often times they can't think clearly enough to weigh all of their options and come up with solutions to alleviate their suffering. One of the reasons a lot of poor people remain in poverty is because they're too busy working and trying to come up with money to THINK of a clear plan to get up out of their situation. Sometimes getting want we Want is not good or best for us.. True. But your GOAL is your GOAL, whether it's "good" or "bad". If that's their goal and what they want........ If you are a Christian or a Jew you are Practicing Religion or being religious.....That is not always the same as following scripture and or being Spiritual. True. But many practicing Christian clergy members have been killed for their religion and many Jewish Rabbis were killed in the Holocaust. They had scripture and they PRACTICED it more than most, but did it save them from suffering and death??? So how did their scriptures help them in that particular situation? Yes...as it was the custom. So if Black Banks were the cornerstones of those Black communities and they practiced Usury, how could usury itself be THE problem and downfall of Black communities? You get out of one bind only to put then in another bind. Sometimes, sometimes not. But the major point is that it often prevents them from doing things MORE harmful to the community or those around them. Like robbing someone or taking their mother's jewelry or entertainment center and selling it for quick cash. How so? Because there are MULTIPLE causes of poverty, not just Greed. And infact, I would say that Greed is one of the LEAST causes of poverty. That's like pointing to a rich, handsome, lady's man who is promiscuous and screws women left and right and saying HE is the reason a broke, ugly, stupid man who is afraid to talk to women isn't getting any trim...lol. Yes, that rich handsome man MAY be screwing more women than he really needs, but HE'S not the reason that broke silly ass dude ain't getting any pussy. If that rich man didn't have sex with ANY women anymore...the broke stupid dude would STILL not be getting any trim, lol. Likewise..... A lot of rich people ARE greedy and getting richer, but THAT'S not the cause or even a major cause of poverty in America. Troy @Pioneer1 tread @frankster’s last post with your thinking cap on. Man are you serious? Why? Most of his videos and points have little to nothing to do with the actual points I've made let alone actually negate them. I say that greed isn't THE cause of poverty in America but it isn't even a major cause. You put out a video about how the CIA brought crack to America???? Ok? I say that people shouldn't engage in the gangsta lifestyle or talk shit to the police, to avoid law enforcement and legal problem which can quickly zap your money away. So you put out a video about the police snatching young sistas out of their chair in the class room and abusing them and police misconduct??? It's inflammatory and raises the emotions, but how does that counter or negate my point about using good sense to stay out of trouble? Posting a lot of shit that we already know may SOUND good but just because it's true or sounds good...doesn't mean it proves or counters a PARTICULAR POINT being made in a given argument. I don't do circular arguing. If I make a point either AGREE with it....IGNORE it....or COUNTER it.

ProfD However, when it comes to approaching any woman, confidence is the common denominator. Confident men finish first. There's a lot of confident bruthas locked up in prison. They were confident. A little TOO confident, and didn't use what little sense they had, lol. I'm not 100% sure but DIRECTLY asking a woman how much it would cost to sleep with her is probably illegal. If she reported it you COULD be arrested and charged with soliciting for prostitution. A chance I personally wouldn't be willing to take. Besides that..... More often than not, she will probably take it as an insult (calling her a prostitute directly) and if SHE doesn't get violent, may call some dude she happens to be with over and HE may get violent...lol. Don't get me wrong.... I HAVE paid for sex indirectly through dates, favors, gifts, etc.; but to DIRECTLY offer money to a woman for sex -not my style. Cynique As if men would even be interested in the opinion of somebody my age who is out of the loop. Well if you didn't think we were interested in your opinion, then why did you give it? In such detail....lol.

I'm not saying NOBODY was helped by a lot of these programs, but like you said earlier....they're being ran and operated by the same people who are DOING the discriminating in the first place. You have a problem with police brutality and discriminatory policing in a given community. A law is passed to help alleviate that and force the police department to be more just and fair in it's practices. And who is in charge of implementing this and enforcing this "new law"? THE SAME COPS who were being racist and brutal in the first place! The same White folks who were being racist and discriminating in the workplace; now you're trusting them to be fair and enforce non-discriminatory policies that come down from Washington D.C.. It was set up to fail. Like I said, just something White men can point to as a target to justify their anger and rage. If it didn't exist, they wouldn't have an argument to say THEY were being discriminated against too. But since it does...now THEY can point to it and claim bias.

According to some of you, high interest rates and these pay-day loan stores sprinkled around the ghetto are the causes of poverty in the AfroAmerican community and elsewhere. So by that logic..... We can go to a wealthy community, place a bunch of pay-day loan businesses on each block, get the banks and other lending institutions to charge high interest rates to their customers, sit back and wait and pretty soon THOSE wealthy communities will be impoverished too! Right? Since....as some of you claim...they are the CAUSES of poverty. Or on the reverse...... If we TAKE AWAY the predatory lending institutions in the hood and force the banks and other lending institutions to charge their low income customers ZERO interest on loans, then poverty will be ELIMINATED in short order. Right? This is called CIRCULAR LOGIC. Instead of looking at the REAL CAUSES of the problem, some of you are focusing on a SYMPTOM of the problem and labeling THAT the cause.

You ask the WRONG woman "how much will it cost" to press open that snatch box and you won't get an answer, but you'll definitely get a RESPONSE...lol. And HER response may leave you un-responsive...lol.

ProfD Those BS programs are designed to level the playing field. They clearly aren't doing a very good job of it. I'd argue that they weren't actually designed to level the playing field but actually designed to do just what I mentioned earlier....piss off White people. They aren't really effective in ending employment discrimination or work-place racism. They are just worded and crafted in a way that FAVORS women, Black people, and Latinos in writing without really DOING anything for us. Like Malcolm X told the church-going brother in the movie, "These so-called White Christians....he TELLS you he loves you but he doesn't DO anything for you." So it's just a picture on a wall, or a target...like CRT. Something angry White men can point to as being unfair against them. Black folks need their own sh8t. Stop depending on white folks for job opportunities. Don't need affirmative action or DEI if Black folks are self-sufficient. The Honorable Elijah Muhammad said DO FOR SELF or suffer the consequences.

Troy No there are many factors that contribute to poverty. However, the businesses I described make it harder to escape poverty creating cycles of generational poverty. I'm not even sure of that. I think what I listed above....ADDICTIONS and constant run-ins with Law Enforcement make it harder to escape poverty because it makes it harder to get and keep a job OR save money to lift yourself up. Pay-day Loan stores are NOT making or keeping people poor, my man. You don't own it then. Paid off homes can be lost to failure to pay taxes or HOA fees. Facts. Again this is victim blaming. Exactly! And the victim SHOULD be blamed if they are constantly making fucked up decisions in their lives to keep themselves in those conditions. Are you saying a crack head who is living in an alley SHOULDN'T be blamed for choosing to smoke crack? Are you saying a person with multiple violent felonies and can't get a good job SHOULD'T be blamed for trying to emulate a "gangsta" life style when he was younger? I wonder @Pioneer1 during the century of reconstruction do you blame the Black people, who were impoverished for making "poor" decisions? Yes or No? That was an illogical question because Reconstruction didn't last a century. Only a few decades. ProfD Human greed is the only reason poverty exists. This is VERY wrong...lol. Again, you...like Troy...seem to forget about substance abuse and addictions, not to mention plain old fashioned stupidity where some people...because of no fault of their own...are just too dumb to make a living for themselves. The US spends more money on weapons and dumb sh8t rather than provide housing, food and healthcare to every citizen. Weapons aren't dumb shit, though. These high-tech weapons are what PROTECTS America and ENABLES us to be able to provide housing, food, and healthcare for those who do have it without some other nation coming in and taking it away. Get rid of the weapons...and the wealth will be TAKEN away in short order. You can believe that. frankster On the surface...it does appear that the getter - would be happier The problem is not one of lack or plenty as it appears....but that of Wanting. Always getting tends to result in boredom(emptiness).....the wanting remains For some. Not for all Boredom is better than suffering and anguish. Being satisfied with what you have is a one cornerstone of happiness There's a difference between SATISFACTION and COMPLACENCY. Being satisfied means you're getting what you wanted. Being complacent means you DIDN'T get what you wanted but you choose not to make a fuss about it. I do not believe Unconsciousness means Nothingness So the Atheist and The Christian may not experience hell heaven or nothingness We were talking hypotheticals. Yes sexual discipline increases one fortune more often than not.... Sexual discipline is about the personal fortunes of the individuals involve... There is no such thing as safe sex...When dealing with unsafe matters it behooves one to be - Wary It depends on your goal. If your goal is to have sex and lots of it, then limited sexual experiences could be seen as a failure. Your goals and what you consider "fortunate" may not always agree with another's. It is the Purpose of Scripture to protects from known risk...that we may be unaware of. Well those scriptures didn't do a very good job of protecting the Christians from being killed during the Crusades or the Jews from killed during the Holocaust. True...more often than not their caretakers were unaware of the causes that led up to the traumatic events. So how does sexual discipline or the lack there of factor in, then? and how they are connected remains unknown to me. Could it be, there WAS no damn "connection"??? Many such black societies have been destroyed by Discriminatory Lending.. Examples...please. Infact, one of the CORNER STONES of most Black Wall streets around America were the Black Banks. These Black Banks charged their customers INTERESTS on their loans. Those are not the only alternatives Who said they were? I listed them because they are MUCH more harmful to the community than pay-day loan sharking. How? By putting them in more debt?? No. By getting them out of a bind so that they don't have to FEEL like they're forced to harm somebody or do something reckless for some quick cash. The Cause of Poverty is Greed This is wrong. The "stripping" comes from loss of current and future growth of Equity That's like a rental car company calling you up and telling you to give them their car back that was loaned to you is "stripping" you of your wealth. It wasn't yours to begin with. It is due to Greed Again, you're wrong on this one. Usually those decisions are made by Federal State and City Officials . For the most part, the Feds, State, or City doesn't force you to commit violent crimes or use illegal drugs. These are usually choices made by the individual.

Really? I had no idea it was that easy for them to move around like that. I do know in a lot of companies high salaried people bounced around from one position to another and then often found nice cushy jobs in other firms as easily is going out and buying a new television.

Dr. Wesley Muhammad often mentions this subject about the cannibalism that took place during Slavery.

Troy Years ago, I dyed my goatee, but I'm too lazy/cheap to keep it up. The problem with dying facial hair is that it grows back too quickly. And those stubbles... There's not much you can really do with them except let them grow long enough to dye or shave them off...lol. ProfD I was waiting on the ladles to login and answer your questions. You'll be waiting a mighty long time...... -if you're waiting on some of the ladies who post on THIS site to respond, lol. I've never really been attracted to younger women so what they think of how I look hasn't mattered to me. Since I've been an adult, I've always loved older women myself. However I'm seeing a lot of women in their 30s who are mature mentally and there is a genuine attraction despite the age difference. Some women are just MATURE whether they're 30 or 60. They know how to act. if all you really want to do is bed a woman, ask her directly, how much it would cost to press that snatch box. Since you laid some advice on me, let me off a bit of advice for you..... Asking her WHAT would it cost is much less insulting and far sexier than asking "how much" would it cost?

Troy My first Job out of college was with a GE (at the time the multinational conglomerate was a household name). I remember the commercials. GE - we bring good things to life ...lol The fight against DEI is not just about DEI. They are not just firing people, they are destroying records, a high-tech book burning. This is serious business... Yeah, not just in academic institutions but in government institutions as well. I heard they're going to various police departments and erasing the records of misconduct, abuse, and brutality by officers. ProfD DEI has a flavor similar to Affirmative Action. Same concept made necessary in a system built on white male privilege. And it seems to be just about as effective in actually ending discrimination in the work place....both being MINIMAL. It seems to me that the ONLY Black people who benefit from either DEI or Affirmative Action have been SOME of those who were fortunate to go through and graduate from Universities. And what percentage of AfroAmericans is THAT???? What about the masses of our people who need jobs and many of them are victims of discrimination, racism, harassment, and passed up promotions but these are non-Corporate jobs in the Service Industry or Manufacturing? That's where the MAJORITY of our people are and that's where these programs should be. A company gets sued because while BOTH are making over $100,000 a year...the Black Engineer is making $10,000 a year less than the White one. That's worthy of a law suit and media attention. Meanwhile, in that SAME company on the work floor...you have a racist White Supervisor who is firing Black men left and right as soon as they walk through the door or NOT hiring them to begin with and is sexually harassing Black women and making racist jokes. ....but no "Affirmative Action" or "DEI" program to deal with THAT shit. So who are they fooling with these bullshit programs???

Troy Al Sharpton, said Trump could just pardon him, but he won't because they need Eric as Mayor and their leash. He will not resign. The people resigning are not playing one guys said only a coward or a fool would actually drop the charge. I think it's foolish for them to resign and lose their jobs simply for not doing what they were told to, even though it doesn't help or hurt them personally one way or the other. Damn..... They really want to go after a Black man don't they! This isn't about "justice" in my opinion because they could have "resigned" over more pressing matters. Some of these people REALLY want to see this Black man prosecuted, which is even more angering. I hope the charges are dropped (as Dr. Umar Johnson would say) FOR GOOOOOD......lol. And I hope he stays in office. Not for Trump's sake, but just to see a Black man survive and thrive in the face of his opposition.

Troy Look at any ghetto and you will find payday loans check, cashin businessesg, any credit card with exorbitant interest rates some of them over 30% these all contribute to keeping poor people poor destroying entire generations I understand your argument however consider the alternatives: 1. Robbing people to get quick cash instead? 2. Selling dope for quick cash? While you're looking at these businesses as vultures preying on the poor and vulnerable, some people can look at them as conveniences that prevent poor and destitute people from committing even MORE acts of desperation than they already are. Perhaps we should be glad that a person CAN go and get an early loan for a high interest rate, as opposed to needing some quick money and unable to get one because loan sharking on the street went out of business 40 years ago. Although these high-interest lending institutions may TARGET those in poverty, I don't think they are the CAUSE of poverty. Not the main cause atleast. Take them away and the poverty will still exist. Or you can look at the housing cities, Rusonis, where Wall Street and collusion with lenders rating agencies and appraisers inflated. The value of homes built financial instruments based upon these toxic assets, stripping millions of people of their wealth and enriching themselves. You said stripping them of their "wealth". Do most people understand that you DO NOT OWN a home until your mortgage is TOTALLY paid off? Many if not most people who are losing their houses aren't losing THEIR houses....they're losing their homes. There's a difference. The bank or lending institution is just repossessing what already belongs to them. Let's keep this thing a buck.... Much of the poverty in the United States isn't due to high interest rates and usury. It's due to poor decision making in general......... 1. Living beyond your means (trying to impress people) 2. Substance abuse, which zaps your money away. 3. Reckless behavior which leads to legal problems, which sucks your money up like a vacuum cleaner.

Maybe because I didn't go to college and don't have a lot of experience in academic institutions or corporate America where a lot of DEI seems to be practiced....but I honestly had no idea that DEI even existed until a few years ago when I heard Republicans ranting against it. I'm still not sure what it's supposed to be. Another one of those vague issues like Critical Race Theory, than means many different things to many different people. Most jobs I've gotten I've applied for, got an interview, and got hired. I kept the job based on my performance and conduct. Plain and simple. On some applications I've filled out questions asking me what my race and gender was, but to be honest....I DIDN'T get the vast majority of those jobs. I'm not sure if those questions were part of a DEI program seeking to include more "oppressed" groups. Most jobs I got were jobs that DIDN'T ask those questions but just the basics like name, contact information, and experience. I don't know of a lot of Black people who actually HAVE benefited from DEI, to be honest. The same with Affirmative Action. They keep talking about how Black folks benefited from it and I used to ask and still ask HOW? How can I benefit from it? What steps do I take to get some "Affirmative Action" for being Black? Folks just look and laugh, talking about "it doesn't work that way". I say, "Well what way DOES it work????" Either these programs were implemented to help Black folks or they weren't. If I'm a Black man and need a job, where is Affirmative Action? See.... This is why I say a lot of these arguments are bullshit and propaganda. Something...not to benefit us...but to just get White folks riled up and angry so they can focus on it. So I'm not going to cry too many tears for the elimination of DEI OR Affirmative Action if I don't see how either of them benefitted me. If it's not benefiting me AND it's just pissing well armed White men off, what the hell good is it?

No responses yet? I'm surprised.......... For some reason I expected this to be a pretty popular subject for the over-40 crowd, lol.