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Troy Speaking of racial differences.... One of the biggest differences between Black New Yorkers and White New Yorkers is the way most pronounce the letters "t" or "th" in a word. Take the word "something" for example......... Most Black New Yorkers will pronounce it as "suh-in" or "suh-aaann" depending on their mood. "I didn't know you felt that way.....you shoulda said suh'in !" Most White New Yorkers will prounce it as "sum-tin" For example a couple times in Manhattan a little pudgy White man with a balding head has walked up to me with a goofy smirk on his face saying: "I know I don't know you but can I eeeeask (ask) you sumtin (something)? If I just came out of nowheeah (nowhere)....like just now...and flat out told you that you were an alright looking Black guy would you get meeead (mad)?" These were 2 different White dudes but they had the same profile and goofy smirk, lol. Cynique Like most Black people from Michigan I use the term "yall" but I don't pronounce it with a twang. I pronounce it as "yaw". "Hey....where yaw goin' " People down South and in the southern Midwest seem to pronounce BOTH "L's" when they say it. That's a real twang, lol. I'm living in Western Michigan right now and there's a lot of Black people from Chicago here. Although I've heard the "she be actin crazy" I haven't heard the "I be so tired". You've brought up Ebonics a few times, I think I'll give my take on it in my Black Grammar thread. Now the speed at which Black people from Chicago speak is what saves them from being called "country"...lol. The southern dialect is ofset by the big city quickness. I used to tease friends from Chicago by saying maybe they talked fast because they had to say what they had to so they could hurry up and get in out of the cold, lol. The way people (even of the same race) look seem to be tied to region also. When it comes to AfroAmericans over 60 I used to be able to tell which ones were born in Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, and Mississippi. I used to scare some people I was so accurate, lol. Of all the southern states, people from Georgia seem to have the nicest looking skin.

"Demarquise" ???? Where in the hell do so many Black women come up with these jacked-up-French names for their children? LaMarr DeMarquise DeMario LaRone This seems to have started in the 70s as a way to reclaim our heritage. I understand the desire to get out of the colonial White supremist mindset but it seems that too many people just started MAKING UP names and adding French prefixes to them instead of giving their chilren authentic African names that have been fully vetted. I have some cousins with names that I can't even say without laughing. There is meaning in a name. There is even power in some names. A twisted name is an indication of the twisted mind who came up with it. A mother should atleast know the meaning of the name she gives her child before issuing it.

I notice that over the past 20 years the grammar of many Black youth seem to be deteriorating. Walk past a group of Black youth today and you're liable to hear terms and phrases that used to be outdated, like "red bone" and "what you name iz" I even notice that the baggy pants many of the boys wear is forcing them to shuffle when they walk like Step'n Fetchit. Young people in their teens and 20s talking and acting like slaves who just stepped off the plantation! Where are they learning this? I think it's a combination of the entertainment industry attempting to establish what we used to be considered country and ignorant in the past, as "Black culture" today. Also it seems to me that cutbacks in public education along with pockets of poverty and neglect in many urban areas of America are creating islands of ignorance and violence and reversing the lifestyle of many parts of America. Even many poor White areas are going backwards with young White men wearing long beards, missing teeth and adopting a redneckish culture similar to Duck Dynasty. I've talked to many Black people over 60 who told me that although most Black youth in their day may not have actually graduate for one reason or another....of those who DID graduate....their quality of education was far superior to what most children are getting today. They learned not only how to read, write, and count but also hygiene, home economics, and trade skills. I'm under 50 and even I remeber that teachers used to correct children in the class if they heard us using improper grammar even during casual conversation....they don't any more. I remember teachers used to grade students not only on their spelling but their handwritting and neatness, they don't anymore. It seems like many of the teachers...even the Black teachers....don't care. They just want to put their time in and go home.

Cynique You've lived there longer than me so I stand corrected. I was speaking from personal observations. But I have noticed for years that a lot of youth from Chicago use terms like "look here" and "lemme tell ya sum'n" , and even have a little twang on the end of their words like people from either the South or the Southern Midwest. Now this kind of dialect is common among people of all races in southern Illinois as it is in southern Indiana and Ohio but in Chicagoland it seems the only people with southern twang are Black youth from certain pockets of Chicago. Troy I had a similar experience while living in Pittsburg. When I first went there and saw all the rowhouses and brownstones, being in Pennsylvania I considered it an East Coast city, but people soon let me know it wasn't...lol. I ran into so many people living there who were actually from New York and Philly that I was able to distiguish between a New York, Boston, and Philly dialect. I also noticed bruthaz from Philly seem to like wearing beards. Didn't spend much time in D.C. but going through there...just like Baltimore....the place LOOKS East Coast but Black people seem to act and sound southern and rural. The Midwest is divided into 2 sub-regions..... The "heartland" which comprises of Nebraska, Iowa, Minnesota, ect.... And the Industrial Midwest which comprises of Michigan, Wisconsin, and the northern parts of Illinois, Indiana, and Ohio. Those to regions are VASTLY different in not only dialect but in culture and values. I was driving through Iowa and had to laugh at how the gas stations allowed you to pump your gas BEFORE paying....lol. It seems to me that in many Black neighborhoods around America conditions are reversing. Due to budget cuts and the lack of proper education, ignorance is making a comeback.

((Pioneer looks at this statement....then looks at the audience.....then looks back with a smirk)) Ya know, Oh, never mind...lol.

Admin Yes. Crack cocaine decimated prostitution in the hood and the pimps had to find another game....lol. ((Pioneer stomps the floor laughing))

What? That he's not being manipulated at all but actually is WITH those who appear to be his political enemies??? Lol, perhaps..... But a man as smart as him would surely realize that it would have been much better for him to have entered his political career as a Republican and establish his reputation as a moderate Republican like Colin Powel. With his intellect and charm, I'm sure he would have not only risen to the Senate but probably would have STILL ended up becoming President as a Black Republican! But this way....claiming to be a Democrat while pushing Republican policies.....he incurs the wrath of Republicans as well as liberal Democrats who are continually baffled by his behavior. Why would a man engage in a deceptive strategy which makes him look like a fool, wimp, and punching bag for his political enemies? Perhaps I may be wrong..... But I still think he WANTS to be a Democrat and WANTS to be....atleast a moderate if not a little left of center. That's what he probably WANTS deep down in his heart...probably...maybe...on a warm spring afternoon, lol. But his desire to please his political enemies and try to calm them and satify them. His desire to MAKE them love him seems to influence so many of his policies. He thinks it's smart to ignore his base because he figures he has them, so he continues to focus on ways to win over his enemies.

I thought Molly WAS the drug they called Ecstacy. Shows you how out of touch I am with the club scene, lol. ((Imagine the balding Mr.Osgood character from Sanford and Son talking)) I never was big on clubbing.... Didn't see the purpose of it..... It only took a few nights of clubbing as a teenager for me to recognize that most of the people in the clubs (atleast the ones we went to) already knew eachother and they went there just to get drunk and fight or show off their new clothes. Me and my boy did better hanging out in the parking lots of clubs and pull (or tried to pull) the women we wanted. And when I hit my 20's and discovered Canada.....lol....game changer like a mug!!! We know many of these entertainers are being paid by these corporations to destroy the minds and morals of young people and make them better consumers. They use their basic needs like the need for love and sex to do it. Most corporations have hired psychologists designed to find out the best ways to manipulate their target consumers and audiences. Just like a scandelous pimp who preys on abused girls and run-a-ways because he knows they are emotionally vulnerable and are seeking love and attention...... Those who seek to manipulate the youth use the fact that most of them come from broken homes and lack that love and stability that a good home offers to ward off the negative influence of drugs and a criminal lifestyle. The fact that the United States is such a prudish and Puritanical society also assists with this. Pornography flourishes in societies where nudity is censored in the media because the people want sexual titilation and if they can't get it for free they're willing to pay for it. Pornography is far bigger in the United States and Latin America than in Europe because you see nudity on television any time during the day and get used to it. In Canada I didn't have to go to clubs or bars for sex, I could go to a shopping mall or coffee shop and start a conversation and end up in bed with a woman that same night. It was the same way in my brief time in Europe. Canadians and Europeans don't need to get drunk or high to express their sexuality. But in America (and Mexico and many other Latin American nations) people are so out of touch with themselves they need alcohol and drugs to get back in touch with their natural feelings. The corporatists have exploited this detachment.

2 of the biggest hawks pushing for war with Syria are John McCain and Lindsey Graham. Both McCain and Graham are ARCH ENEMIES of President Obama! They hate him and everything he does, so why would he even listen to them and their advice let alone accept their support? It's absolutely foolish to accept advice and support from your sworn enemies.

It's pitiful to see how Obama is constantly manipulated by the Republicans into doing THEIR dirty work for them. Just like Obama Care...... A right wing health care beauracracy designed to make the Insurance companies even richer. The Republicans TRICKED Obama and the Democrats (who originally wanted Universal Healthcare) into not only supporting such a bill but actually spearheading and leading it. It's the same with escalating the war in Afganistan, expanding the war into Pakistan, the war in Libya, and now what looks like the future war in Syria. They love to go to war, but they know the American public is tired of war and is against it so they had to figure out a way to initiate these conflicts while looking like the "good guys". So what do they do? Like a "rabbit" in a race, they run out ahead and prime and promt the Administration, Senate and House on the urgency to go to war. Not ALL of them, just the hawks....some of them quietly criticize any military action and make sure this criticism goes on record. But like the rabbit of a race once the hawks get the crowd going in a particular direction and the conflict is raging .....they jump back out of the scene and the people like Rand Paul come on and CRITICIZE the administration for intervening in other people's affairs and playing the world's police.

Christianity clearly forbids homosexuality. The Bible clearly condemns homosexuality both in the Old Testament and the New. I don't understand why people who support homosexuality and gay marriage just don't simply leave the Church. When my religious views changed and I no longer accepted many of the theological concepts of Christianity...I didn't try to CHANGE Christianity, I simply accepted it as it is and LEFT IT.

This is a little off the subject but................ I have wondered why Steve Harvey being from Clevaland has a strong southern accent and mannerism. Perhaps it's his way of establishing a particular culture for his routine. I've also wondered why so many young Black people in Chicago have strong southern accents. I know most have roots in Mississippi and Lousiana, however after several generations of living in a big northern city it seems to me that that Southern drawl would have disapeared.

Jesse Lee is a straight up ass-clown. Negroes like him are favorites for the Fox News channel. I don't think Dr. Ben is quite AS bad, he's more intelligent than Jesse Lee. However I think Carson is still being used by the Right. As a Black man who has become more Conservative over the years I can say that the PASSIVE stance that so many Black leaders have taken on Black immorality and Black crime these past few decades is fuel for confused negroes like this. In otherwords, when you see so many Black men acting thuggish and criminal and the "responsible" Black leaders don't address it.....you leave a portal open for confused negroes to be manipulated by the Right wing who will point this out and ask them what's being done about it.

((Pioneer settles himself in the chair and plays around with his bedroom shoes)) Whoever that girl/woman in the picture is........... She looks like she can make a meeeeaaan batch of cookies! Lol, I can tell.

Just like Madonna. White females always do something rauncy and outrageous to get noticed. They know just what to do to piss off White men. Twerking and grinding into the crotch of Robin and dancing with a bunch of Black girls is sure to bring calls and cries of the end of Western Civilization from the more conservative of society. That's what she's looking for....it brings her mor attention and more money. It't not a big deal to me. Especially having spent so much time in Canada and watching Canadian television where nudity is featured on a regular basis. Only in a Puritanical based society where sex is considered evil or the original sin can Miley get that type of attention.

Troy I think they learned from the legal system that there's a lot of money to be made keeping society unnecessarily complicated while keeping the masses in a state of feeleminded ignorance. Laws used to be simple.....so simple you could defend yourself in court and didn't need a lawyer. Now they have so many laws (literally millions) that not only do you need a lawyer but a CERTAIN TYPE of lawyer who specializes in a particular category of the library of laws that loom over the heads of the people. Go to the post office..... You go in with the intention of getting some stamps and mailing some letters and get 15 different options. You end up leaving more frustrated and feeling stupid than when you came in. Go to the grocery store....... When they first implimented those automated check-outs it was a CHOICE. Now when you get into line they have some lady standing their directing and forcing you to get out of the cashiers line and to a automatic check-out. And even when you do everything right it still ends up fucking up, lol. Go to pay a phone bill...... All those sales associates standing around leaning against the counter but none of them can take your bill, you gotta go to a machine and go through a series of personal questions just for it to take your money. Yes sir, they've found out that there's money to be made in making society so complicated that the average person can't maneuver through it, only the exceptionally talented or blessed. That's why in a way I can't beat up on these brothers too much because they were born in a world they had no opportunity to help make and are trying to maneuver the best way they can.

You see this a lot with soldiers who come back from battle. The PTSD and the guilt that comes from taking an innocent human life can be burdensome for both the guilty party as well as the family that lives with them. There's know telling how many times he's woken up in a a cold sweat from a nightmare and how many times she's had to deal with it. I heard they were having problems even BEFORE the shooting however.

In other words......lol....you want Black men to consider becoming Catholics!

Troy America likes stereotypes. They want to see stereotypes. As I write this post while watching TLC channel and seeing an advertisment of the Cake Boss....... As much as I've complained about the stereotypical AfroAmerican roles on television and in the movies, it seems to me that Italians suffer through this as much as any other group. 90% of the shows they are featured in revolves around them either being in the Mafia and/or being depicted as crazy, quicktempered, and violent. But while some resent it, others are pimping off of the image and using it to make money for themselves. Just like a lot of these gangsta rappers who are quite intelligent in real life (like 50cent and Lil' Wayne) are making money off of the stereotype of young Black males as violent and criminal minded.....too many Black producers and directors are using the stereotype of shucking and jiving sexually immoral "negritude" to make money without any regard for the consequences. I suspect that as long as America maintains it's appetite for ethnic stereotypes and are willing to pay to get their fill of it, very little will change. I tell people to study the Chinese Cultural Revolution and how the Communist party FORCED an end to the old superstitions and stereotypes.

Thanx for the info!

Octogenarian? Lol, is that one of those fad diets where a person is restricted to eating octopus? Anyway...... ((Pioneer takes off his glasses and sits forward in his chair)) Nice pictures.....if they're REALLY you, lol. Infact ... ((rubs chin with a sly grin on his face)) If I had been around then and met you before you got married, I may have been tempted to "exorcise" some of the devilishment out of you and put you on my "team"....lol.

Troy Yes sir, I'm certainly in agreement with this statement. There are a lot of White people who absolutely HATE this system and would like nothing better than to remove it. Some don't even want to replace it....they just want to remove any and all systems economics, government, or any other organized authority. They call themselves Anarchists. Most of them tend to be immature, naive, and far too many come from a relatively sheltered life....but they still don't like the system and have a desire to remove it. I think it was this very spirit of dissatifaction with the cur rent system that the Republicans were able to take advantage of and form the Tea Party. Once again another example of how the Democrats dropped the ball. And the White ethnic groups like Italians, Irish, Polish, ect....knew this. They didn't trust a system created and managed by the W.A.S.P.'s. People often think the Italians were the only gangsters but Jews, Irish, and other groups had their own syndicates since the 1800s. But they used most of their money and influence to get their children into law enforcement on both the local and federal level. But as far as people making it............ I think for most people, things have just gotten TOO COMPLICATED. The simplest shit, from the way people fill out forms to how they apply to jobs or learn to use the telephone has become increasingly complicated over the decades and it's leaving too many people behind. This frustration in trying to make it in such a complicated society creates anger and resentment and drives some people to the point of desperation and criminality.

Believe it or not, I don't have a problem with the cover. If I were to walk into a bookstore and saw books with full nudity on the cover, as long as it's in the proper section of the store for erotica I wouldn't have a problem with it as I don't ascribe to most typical Western concepts of sexual morality. As long as it's a FEMALE (of appropriate age ofcourse) with a phallic symbol in her mouth as oppose to a male, it's cool. I think the two apples image is not only very erotic but quite creative!

According to the original manuscripts and translations of the New Testament Jesus wasn't nailed to a cross. He was hung on a tree. In other words he was lynched by the Roman authorities. The cross didn't become a Christian symbol until Constantine made it so centuries later.

Growing up in a working class Black neighborhood I came to realize something..... Since Black people have been in America there's always been those among our people who are: Exceptionally blessed Exceptionally talented Exceptionally intelligent .....and it is usually these who tend to do better than the masses of AfroAmericans. Black people with these gifts have learned to use them to their advantage to wade through the muck and mire of classism and racism in Western society and climb out of it to make and maintain a decent living for themselves and their IMMEDIATE families. The problem is too often their children fall through the bottom and end up back in the condition their parents or grandparents fought so hard to get out of and keep THEM out of. As I studied this problem I came to the conclusion that the system itself may have been designed to keep the majority of Black people in a state of poverty and dependence with only those blessed by the grace of God and are exceptionally gifted being able to overcome it. I believe the system itself must be altered or replaced if we want to see the majority of our people to do well.