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Sillyque I see you're acting up and being silly again. LOL..... Emotional garbage...... Well have you found enough information to DISPUTE my claim? My claim is and has been that AfroAmerican men tend to have higher testosterone levels, and most of the research you have done has proven me correct. All that crap about testosterone leading to lower IQs is just racist garbage, Hell, if higher testosterone meant lower IQs then men would be dumber than women....and we both know who runs the world, lol. More emotional garbage...lol. Even when you agree with what I'm saying you argue just to be combative. I bet your the type of woman to live in a man's house, eat up his food, and then plop your ass down by his pool with your ashy feet playing in the wate talking about: "You shouldn't be so materialistic....money ain't everything ya know". ((said in a low testosterone ~ high pitched voice)) What? ((back to high testosterone deep bass)) Well KMA MF You need to STFU....lol. It's a hell of a time to start "gee wizzing" and trying to use polite language with all that cussing you were doing earlier, lol. But you just quiet your little mind down and keep watching sports. After all, entertainment was invented to keep children and feeble minded adults occupied while the rest of us take care of the real business of life. Will real black men please stand up? Be careful what you wish for. When REAL Black men finally do stand up one of the first things they'll do is put Black women and children in their proper places......lol.

Alright, take the dunce cap off and if you promise to behave, you can join the class again..........lol. Now that you've FINALLY learned that most AfroAmerican men indeed have higher testosterone levels, let me drop some more knowledge on you related to the questions you brought up....... 1. The reason why AfroAmericans tend to have higher testosterone levels actually has less to do with our race and more to do with how we were mated together in slavery. The testosterone levels of European men and African men (especially those from East Africa) are much more similar than the levels between Black American men and White American men. 2. IQ levels have less to do with race and more to do with ones diet and environment being in tune with one's biology. It's heavily influenced by not only the foods you eat, but the foods your parents and grand parents ate and what your mother ate while you were in the womb. Whether or not your parents drank also. People of West African descent don't tolerate eating too much red meat. It tends to make our people dull and sluggish. And like most Native Americans, we shouldn't drink ANY alcohol. For those of West African descent, fish and plenty vegetables with little starch is the best diet for optimum intelligence. As far as the polygamy debate............. It's ok to QUESTION polygamy. I wouldn't expect you to fully understand the need and importance of it. Just accept that in some cases it's necessary to maintain stability in family and society., If not for SEXUAL reasons....then for ECONOMIC reasons. I'm no prophet and I don't know the future, but I PREDICT that a time is coming soon where there will be so few economically successful straight men available, that many women (especially those with children) will be FIGHTING for the legalization of polygamy. They'll be so busy looking for a decent male to act as father for their children as well as looking out for thier own economic security in a chaotic world that they won't care how many other women their husband is sleeping with. Because of the economic independence so many women have in the West, what they value in men has evolved or devolved (depending on how you look at it) from valuing a man's ability to keep them safe and provide for them.......to being "cute" and able to dance and party all night. Why?. Because most women can provide for themselves today, and that's a GOOD thing. But while being an "independant strong woman" may work in the information/communications age where most of the work involves computers and sales and is non-physical...if society ends up having to go back to the industrial and agricultural age (and I predict it will) then masculinity will be a very attractive attribute again and you're going to need a man (and a STRONG ONE who can do the work and defend the family) just to make it. Anyway................... ((Pioneer sits at his desk with his reading glasses on as he looks over some important papers and without even looking up at her casually says to Cynique: )) Make sure you leave the dunce hat on the stool on your way out. I may need it for the next time you act up....lol.

Sillyque I see that shot of thorazine wasn't enough to calm down your delusions, lol. When you're trying to teach those who are mentally challenged......you often find yourself having to be repetitive to overcome their poor memory and short attention span. A person of normal intelligence would have done the research on race and testosterone the FIRST time I asked them, but I had to keep telling YOU over and over again. But when you finally did, you found out I was right! Nothing to respond to...... Just the emotional ranting of an hysterical woman, lol. As I said before, testosterone is what gives men their masculinity and Black men tend to have more of it. That was my point, and that point has been proven.. ....all the other racist bullshit attached to those studies are irrelevant. And as for my low sex drive, I'm just not into screwing everyday. It has nothing to do with my intelligence or even my morals, it's the variation of human nature. Some people love eating more than others. Some people love screwing more than others. Some people love learning more than others. ......and some just love raising hell more than others. Lol, I wonder which one are you? It depends on the prostitute, lol. The ones who know how to keep the conversation to a minimum and do what they're paid to do tend to make a lot of money. Those who think like YOU....and can't stop running their mouth and trying to tell a man what HIS sexual practices should be aren't very successful and end up having to find another profession, lol. If you don't know whether you believe in God or not, as far as I'm concerned you have no "view". By your own admission, some things for you are just UNKNOWABLE. I tell you what...... Just go on over and sit in that corner and be quiet while the adults who DO KNOW work things out. ((Pioneer points to the chair with the dunce hat sitting on top of it)) Look who's got the "D" now...lol.

Sillyque You must still be in a corner tripping, lol . I'm not backing off (or jacking off). I stand by everything I said. Again, it's not what I'm actually saying but your own MISUNDERSTANDING and purposeful MISCONSTRUING of what I'm saying that's the problem. And when I speak of AfroAmerican men whose numbers run into the tens of millions, ofcourse I'm speaking in generalities. Is that supposed to be a "bad" thing? gen·er·al·i·ty [ jènnə rállətee ] 1. general statement: a statement or remark that concerns the main aspects of something rather than the details 2. state of being general: the quality or state of being general 3. general principle: a statement or principle that is true in most cases What I've said stands true for MOST Black men in America and the exceptions are in the minority......I never claimed it was true for ALL of them. Let's look at my EXACT statement, shall we? "But even if there was little science to back this up the fact that most of our men tend to have deeper voices (more bass), more muscularity, and bigger penises is evidence that we have more testosterone." Again, this lines up with my previous post that Black men tend to dwell on the higher end of the testosterone spectrum which means that our men do indeed tend to have bigger penises. It doesn't mean ALL of them do You built your argument on misunderstandings and false projections and then proceeded to fight and argue those phantoms of your own mind. This is called being DELUSIONAL. We all know you're inconsistent and others besides myself have noticed also, this but when it is pointed out to you you try to defend your irrational thinking by calling it "objective". And ofcourse you didn't mention the "unknown". In your arrogance, you probably figured if YOU don't know it then it's just plain ole "unknowable" and can't be known. Another symptom of the delusional mind. It's also been said that ignorance is bliss, which may explain why you're sitting in a corner somewhere laughing like Count Blackula, lol. But don't worry, the papers are on their way. Noooooo, it's the fact that their ancestry is from a nation just south of us called MEXICO that makes them Mexican. Don't forget that AfroAmericans are of a mixed lineage with a common culture also. And Mexicans don't all have the same skin tone, like us....some are ligh and almost White and others are nearly Black. Most have straight hair but some have kinky hair. Look who's doing the stereotyping now. It's called progressive deterioration. It's what happens when a mental illness is left untreated. ((Pioneer pats Cynique on the head and gives her a graham cracker to munch on)) But don't worry honey, the man in white with that big ass net and syringe is pulling up in the drive way as we speak. It won't be long now, lol. Oh so you FINALLY decided to do your homework huh? Never mind all the bullshit about prostate cancer, violence, and aggression.....the primary function of testosterone is in development of masculine attributes. Since YOU finally did your research then YOU now know that I'm right. Rather than trying to shift the focus on the liabilities of too much testosterone, let us first acknowledge the fact that I've been trying to point out to you for weeks.....that Black men indeed tend to have higher levels. Then acknowledge the fact that I WAS and AM correct. That would be the noble thing to do now. Oohh I have a REAL NASTY joke I could have said in response to that, LOL. But since other people are watching this exchange and know the organization I represent, and out of respect for your deceased husband who may even be watching .....I'll restrain myself. But if I were you I'd make my "exit" through another door because...... .....this guy may be waiting on you, lol.

I never said you did.... I thought the statement you made: "One can believe homosexuality is wrong and/or abnormal and still support gay marriage." .....was merely a hypothetical example, not necessarily intented to reflect your own personal views. However I must admit the part about "wrong and/or abnormal" sort of (to me) hinted that you saw homosexuality as atleast an abnormality without coming out and plainly saying such. However the question of which type of "wrong" remains........... Which type of "wrong" (social, moral, ect....) are we speaking of, because that actual type is a strong factor in determining whether or not a person can still support what they disagree with. That's an interesting statement. What rights do heterosexual people have that homosexuals don't? Homosexuals can get married just like heterosexuals can, they just can't marry the same sex ...just like heterosexuals can't.

Cynique Hey....lol....I'm just correcting you on your erroneous claims and outrageous projections. But it's good when people can laugh at their own mistakes, as long as they remember to LEARN from them also. It's not that I can't refute your points.... It's that many of them are strawmen arguments and projections that I haven't made, or points that I DO agree with and never said I didn't. Why waste time fighting ghosts and phantoms of YOUR imagination? Cynique do you know how silly that statement is? You keep making silly statements like that and I'm going to stop calling you Cynique and start calling you "Sillique" Racially speaking the Hispanic people (including Mexicans) are among the most diverse people on the planet! Except for a few pure blooded Maya and Aztecs in remote Mexican villages, most Mexicans are Spaniards or Meztizos....both of whom are mixed raced. And even in terms of culture, Mexicans are not as monolithic as you may think. The ligher skinned upper class Mexicans in Mexico look down upon and economically as well as politically oppress the darker skinned Meztizos and Indians which is what's forcing many of them to come to America illegally. They may all be Mexican but they clearly see THEIR upper/middle class culture as not only different but superior. Straw man #1 Now this is an example of what I mean.......... When have I EVER stated or even implied that ALL white men have small penises and high voices? When it comes to testosterone level and penis size Black, White and Asian men vary from one end of the spectrum to the other but in general most Black men are on the high end of testosterone and most White men are in the middle with most East Asians on the low end. This is scientific fact that even White scientists acknowledge. When did I ever say all Black men were walking around packing donkey dicks? You can't find it...but you use that obviously false and ridiculous idea and a lable it as a belief of mine in order to make the truth of what I say sound ridiculous. Straw man #2 Here we go again.....lol. I support polygamy because most Black men are going to have sex with multiple women regardless if they're married or not so they may as well atleast have the option of doing it within the confines of marriage and not undercover in adulterous affairs. This is about MARRIAGE and FAMILY....not so much about economics....atleast not directly. Although I will say that coming from a STABLE home where both parents are married and together usually produces well adjusted and productive and usually prosperous children. But again you tie those 2 separate statements together to make my point on polygamy sound ridiculous and incredible. Well then that's the problem! The root of the debate is based on YOUR misunderstanding and lack of comprehension, lol. You won't find ONE quote from me labling "all Black men" being anything. When I speak, at most I may speak in generalities, but certainly not applying or attributing anything to "all"Black men. Straw man # 3 I bet there won't be a crow coming around here for years with all the straw men you've been making and planting all over the place......lol. If a brass monkey could talk, it would come to my defense and demand that you find any quotes from me where I make the above claim. Not really. I have a couple of women in my circle who actually disagree with me on both the subjects of polygamy and Black male sexuality. I respect their opinion and they respect mine. as we both understand that there are MORE IMPORTANT problems facing the Black community that worrying about and trying to limit the number of women a Black man is allowed to marry or sleep with. I'm not defending the Bible, but how do YOU know what is or isn't "unknowable"? Just because you or some 4eyed goofball in a sport coat with patches on the elbow and chalk all over his pants may not know something.....lol....doesn't mean it's "unknowable". Also, just because something is UNKNOWN, doesn't mean it's UNKNOWABLE. You're sitting in a corner laughing and talking to yourself....and you think Pioneer is the one who looks silly? When a witness does come, you better hope they don't have a pen and paper with them because that will be the papers to declare you certifiably insane and lock that ass up.

One can believe homosexuality is wrong and/or abnormal and still support gay marriage. So now that we have a clear understanding of what you mean by support, let's get a clearer understanding of what you mean by "wrong" Are you talking "wrong" in the sense of gross or weird like putting soy sauce and ketchup on a baloney sandwich; or "wrong" in the religious sense? Very people who oppose homosexuality on religious/moral grounds (like I do) can still support gay marriage, even as a civil right. That would be quite a cognative dissonance. Morals tend to be connected to a person's core essense. I think it's "wrong" for women to walk around with shiny bald heads, but I could support a woman's right to do so if she chooses. How a woman styles her hair or even whether she chooses to keep it or not is not part of my moral code, so it's acceptance is really a matter of personal choice. In the case of homosexuality....... Because those views and values don't come from me, they aren't mine to change and it wouldn't be as easy to compromise them.

Cynique First of all, I'm not sure how you managed to distort a man's vision of rebuilding the Midwest-- into some crack-pipe hallucination of a Patriarchal Zulu Nation where Black men sit around behind closed doors conspiring mass sex orgies. Outside of maintaining my health and becoming extemely wealthy............ One of my primary goal in this world is to rebuild the state of Michigan into an economic and cultural center and make it an excellent place for ALL races and BOTH genders to live. Since Black people make up a large segment of this nation and since I am a Black man, ofcourse I'm interested in seeing my peers become productive assets to the society in which they live. Well, you get an "B" for memory but a "D" for comprehension, lol. To say one who promotes polygamy and forbids adultery is contradicting themselves is like saying a wealthy man who forbids theft is contradicting himself. That's how oversimplified your logic is. Yes......the Black man's (and most men period) nature is orientated towards multiple mates. But that nature must be practiced in a CONTROLED and DICIPLINED manner to prevent chaos and disaster. Which is why we have the institution of marriage. The science to prove AfroAmerican men have higher testosterone in there, do the research. Most of the links on the subject are tied to studies on prostate cancer, but they all come to the same conclusion that our men have higher testosterone levels. With all thy getting young lady, make sure to get a proper understanding, lol. First of all the Hispanic majority are NOT "racially pure"....whatever that means. Second, I like how you spend weeks fighting and denying any claims made about the strength of the Black man's masculinity but then run down the street and grab the first Hispanic man you see and drag him bag here to brag about HIS sexual prowess and praise his culture. ((Pioneer looks up and rubs his chin)) Hmmm, I wonder how many Hispanic women would argue and fight against the idea of THEIR men being virile and masculine? Probably very few......if any at all.....because they are proud of THEIR men. But now look at the psychological dichotomy in your rejection of science......... You spend weeks arguing that Black masculinity is a subtle racist insult and throw back to slavery; but then in the SAME paragraph you turn around and suggest that those attributes you see as racist and insulting NOW somehow belittles White men too and makes them angry! Well let's apply that same logic to wealth. I suppose you believe Black men shouldn't make huge sums of money either, after all...some poor White man may become angry and seek retribution! You got a point there! You don't have to worry about people proving you wrong from citing scripture, all they have to do is dig up your quotes from the week before and they're bound to find one that contradicts what you said this week.....lol. ((Pioneer raises his arms and shouts in a gruff voice)) HAH....CAN I GET A WITNESS????

I don't believe anyone "knows" their destiny because no human being knows the future or when they're going to die. You may be able to predict your destiny based on various factors, like seeing a little boy who's always getting into fights and trouble at school and predicting that he's going to be a criminal in and out of jail when he grows up. ....and those predictions can be pretty accurate at times. But in my opinion only God "knows" the future and thus knows our destiny.

Lol..... The only logic I can gather behind someone who sees homosexuality as wrong and still support gay marriage is if they are assuming that the supposed limitations of marriage will diminish the amount of sexual partners they will engage in and thus "reduce" the behavior that they disapprove of. But if you're talking support in the sense of: "I don't like it but but I'm not going to stand in the way and try to obstruct them from being happy" We must first understand that there's a difference beteen ACCEPTING something and SUPPORTING it When you accept something, you acknowledge it's reality whether you agree with it or not. When you support it....you approve of it. For example, I ACCEPT that there is crime in society, but I don't SUPPORT it.

Lol @ "hellafied movie" And that's exactly how they talk up in Northern Cali and the Pacific North West. It's about "hella" this and "hellafied" that. I love that clip If there's anything more powerful that hearing how "it really went down" from a person who was there to witness what happened......it's hearing directly from one of those who actually MADE it happen!

As I await an example of me contradicting myself...................... It seems to me that you're more focused on trying to duck and dodge stereotypes than you are on accepting truth and undeniable facts. Hell, if you want to deny science because it may be a "throw back" to slavery days then why not just deny that Black Americans are of African ancestry? After all, the slavers were taken from Africa and we don't want to stereotype Africans as slaves do we? Denial sometimes gets to the point of being ridiculous. Unbridled sexuality is frowned upon by just about EVERY society (not just the one we live in) by any mature and morally well adjusted adult.....so what does that have to do with the issue of Black masculinity? And who is arguing in favor of unbridled sexuality? Don't forget Pioneer is the one who is arguing in favor of polygamy (over rampant promiscuity) and punishments for adultery. Actually it can be argued that sexual misconduct like rape and pedophilia is a result of LOW testosterone levels and sexual dysfunction. People who can't perform sex properly and adequately often turn to unnatural and perverse ways to express themselves and hide their inadequacy like molesting children or sado-masochism. Ok, then what's the point in criticizing my views of Black masculinity if by your own admission you no longer hold Blackness or defending the honor of Black people as a priority? I suspect that like most people who reject religion, you can't embrace a specific belief system because you don't want to be held accountable to a set standard with which one may hold you against to determine if you are living by it or not....LOL In other words, you can do and say what you like without worrying that someone can pull a scripture or verse to show you where you are in error. You can't find anywhere where I've said my views on homosexuality were "conflicting". My views are stable and steady, I see it is as an abnormality and the act itself as a sin. But I figured if I confronted you on the issue of "real Black manhood" you'd start back-tracking and looking around for a good place to hide and weasel your way out....... "Oh I wuz just jivin'....hee hee....just jivin' ..... I wuzn't serious about the title" Yeah, ok......lol. ((Pioneer takes his penis, slings it over his shoulder, and proudly struts off))

Troy Lol, is New York or Frisco the Universe? Does the culture of these 2 cities with a combined population of about 15 million represent the culture of 6 billion plus people on our planet? I haven't interviewed all of them but I'm willing to bet that if we were to take a poll, a VAST majority of adults on this planet would have a negative view of homosexuality based on religions and/or cultural and even personal reasons. Whether this view is logical or justified or not, it's a fact that they feel this way. Homosexuality is universally condemned....even in so-called "athiest" Communist nations like China and North Korea. No I haven't. Not to say that it's impossible, I just haven't considered it. I've considered that since God Almighty is the One who decides where my soul spends it's eternity then it would be both rational and logical to have reverence, fear, and respect for God. It wouldn't be wise to be flippant and disrespectful to such a powerful Being. Even if you are in doubt, not sure about the existence of such a Being....wouldn't you want to have reverence just to be on the safe side?

Troy I know there's a lot of high class call girls who cater to rich men with money, but a lot of the prostitutes in America today are actually foreign women trying to work off the debt they owe getting into this country. I started noticing when I went to some local Chinese restutants the girls would get particularly close to the male customers and squat down in front of them to pick up trash on the floor revealing g-strings.....basically propositioning men for sex. When I was on the West Coast Central American women of all ages used to hang out at bars and bus stations propositioning men. This is the type of crap I'm against, and it's one of the reasons I call for legalization and regulation. Not only because of the explotation of women who really don't want to do what they're doing....but because of the diseases they're spreading. I don't see the "crack ho" on the street like I used to, lol. They were a trip back about 20 years ago. They seemed to have more of an "appeal" to THEMSELVES than any potential John, lol. It was something about drugs that made the nastiest skankiest emaciated women walk around with their heads up in the air switching and acting like they were dymes. Cynique OK miss....part time Buddhist.....not sure if she believes in God or not, lol. I may hold multiple views on a particular topic but they certainly don't oppose or contradict eachother. You may just have just misunderstood my position on the subject and assumed it to be a contradiction. If you find ANY contradictions in what I've said since I've been on this site, please point them out to me and I will try to clarify them. Now, since you want to go there.....about this issue of Black sexuality...... I'm sorry but it's a scientific fact that AfroAmerican men have a HIGHER TESTOSTERONE rate than White men. Testosterone is what gives us masculine characteristics and a sex drive and that's a fact that most scientists and anyone who has studied endocrinology knows. But even if there was little science to back this up the fact that most of our men tend to have deeper voices (more bass), more muscularity, and bigger penises is evidence that we have more testosterone. Even foreigners who come to America readily see that Black men tend to be more masculine. You SHOULD be proud of this. How can anyone deny this fact that is easily observed? Now I'm NOT ashamed of this fact, but YOU ARE. Evidence? Here are direct unedited un commercially interrupted quotes from you on this issue: Exhibit A "If black people were trying to imitate white people's sexual behavior, they wouldn't be in the shape they're in. It's their wanton breeding that has contributed to the breakdown of the family, a situation that is not nearly as prevelant among whites" Exhibit B "Are you saying that black playas and pimps are emulating white men?" Exhibit C "You make the ridiculous claim that wanton breeding occurs among Blacks because black men are encouraged to be monogamous" Exhibit D "And all these horny black men who want to bang every woman they see and don't want take care of the bastards they spawn, should get vasectomies." Calling Black men pimps..... Playaz............... Wanton breeders......... Horny devils who only spawn little bastards................ Even wanting the bruthaz to get snipped! These are YOUR statements! (( Cynique looks down and tries to walk away but Pioneer leaps infront of her and points at the screen))) Ooooh no......don't try to distance yourself from your own words.....LOOK AT 'EM!!! Now, It's not entirely your fault that you feel this way. You were raised in a society founded by and for Northern Europeans who have a hang-up about expressing sexuality, so you automatically equate being highly sexed with being animalistc. Thus any attempt to promote the masculinity or sexuality of Black males in YOUR opinion is not only stereotypical but considered a racial offense because White men have historically accused Black men of being over sexed rapists. Now I agree that what other people think of us matters to a certain extent, but we can't let their tested ideas about sexuality ill affect how we view ourselves and our vary nature. We are sensual people and we should be proud of that, not try to hide it or demonize it. We should be proud and then begin to forumulate a new culture for ourselves that recognize this fact. My entire argument is that intelligent educated Black people like you and Troy should stop being ashamed of Black sexuality and especially Black male masculinity fearing that it will lead to stereotyping and type-casting and embrace what God has blessed us with. There are a lot worse stereotypes like being violent, stupid, crazy, cursed to be slaves, spawn of Cain, ect.....that we should be busy refuting. Hypersexuality isn't one of them. Also, the title of this thread also raises several concerns............. Black women constantly ask for "real men" to stand up but when they do.....you guys often refuse to sit down and accept our authority.

For years I've heard from many older Black people that integration destroyed the Black community. In the books I've read by Elijah Muhammad, he criticized integration as a trick to destroy Black people. When I was younger I would hear and read this and wondered what they were talking about. Now that I'm older and can COMPARE the Black community of today with the Black community of my childhood, I too can see CLEAR differences that I believe resulted from picking up a lot of the negative habits from the larger society. Sexual perversions, broken families, disrespecting, cussing out, and even killing parents, drinking too much alcohol, even smoking so many cigarettes......in my opinion are bad habits that many AfroAmericans learn from either hanging out with White people or watching them on television/movies and trying to imitate them. When most of our people were living in rural communities down South they were more religious, more family oriented. We were fishing, farming, and building our own houses, coming to eachother's assistance ect.. When they moved up North to the city and started getting lazier and lazier relying on White people for keeping food in the supermarkets, maintaining thier housing, making their clothes...... I remember my mother had a sewing maching she loved to use at night! Now most Black people can't even sew, let alone make new clothes; they just run to the mall and spend money on more instead. Most Black boys can't even swim today. Something older Black men in generations past couldn't believe.

Well I'm all for polygamy and think it should be a legal option. However, I have 2 separate views on gay marriage from intellectual and religious points of view: -As a rational and logical man, while I believe homosexuality is an abnormality....as long as it doesn't hurt me or my family I could care less what other people do amongst themselves. -However as a God fearing man who believes that homosexuality is a sin, I'm against all forms of promoting it. But my biggest complaint about the gay-marriage debate is how the media and many groups continue to compare it to interracial marriage and the Civil Rights Movement. It was never a sin to be Black, nor was it ever is sin for people of different races to marry.....you can't find it in any ancient religious scripture. However homosexuality is universally condemned even in communist/atheist nations and modern Western society is the only one that seems to want to legitimize it.

Admin Don't care too much for giving my birthdate in a public forum, but I'm an Aries too. While I don't believe the star(s) you're born under can tell you your future or destiny, I do believe it helps to shape your personality and temperment. As an Aries I've found that I have much more success when I'm honest and direct with people than when I try to be smooth and diplomatic. Waterstar I'm not going to lie, I don't consider myself very psychic or sensative but I know some people who do. The reason it's called paranormal or "outside of normal" is because most people aren't sensitive enough to pick up on activity from the spiritual realm. For most people psychic experiences and communication with spirits are rare. Cynique As much as I believe in psychic experiences, I have an interesting theory about SOME feelings of de ja vu.... I believe there's some sort of chemical or mechanism in the brain that signals familiarity with our surroundings and sometimes when it spontaneously misfires we may get a FEELING of having known something or been to certain place before when infact we haven't. I may have been kneeling or sitting in an akward position for too long and when I got up too quickly with the blood rushed to my head I sometimes got that "de ja vu" type feeling.

Lol @ calling me out...... ((smiles and rubs chin)) Now Cynique.......do you REALLY want to do this? You've tangled with me before and.......when I got through with you....you were so frantic you weren't sure whether you were still logged in or not, LOL. Now, you don't want to argue with me..... What you want to do is.... Just caaaalm down, Grab your faaaavorite little cup with the sleepy teddy bear on it, Fill it full of chamomile tea with a touch of honey, And after relaxing and giving it deep thought, I'm sure you'll arrive at the wisest decision. BTW, I don't think there's anything wrong with prostitutes as long as they are free of disease and underage. Prostitution should be legalized and regulated. I have a few women in my life who understand me and how I am but I'm not gonna lie, I HAVE paid for and probably WILL pay for a lot of fun in Canada and even when I went to Europe....lol. I haven't dealt with prostitutes in America, not just because it's illegal but but also because of the diseases so many of them have and how nasty so many look today. Most of the prostitutes in America are out "ho'ing" for drugs and not really being professional about thier work. But I actually think prostitution in America should be legalized and regulated. If a man (or woman) wants to pay for sex and they aren't married....why shouldn't they be allowed to?

Cynique Well maybe politicians shouldn't get paid a salary. Maybe they should be paid a commission or bonus based on their performance. I know it works to improve the performance of most salesmen. If you're getting the same amount of pay whether your performance declines or improves, what is your incentive to improve things or even maintain them? No matter what type of government you implement, there will always be people who rise to the top of the food chain. This is true whether we're talking about Democracy, Dictatorships, or a Monarchy. Even in Anarchy where you have no official government you'll still have gangs of powerful men who'll go around raping and robbing others, with no organized government to check them. Troy That's correct....the U.S. is NOT a real Democracy. It's actually an Oligarchal Republic that is slowly turning into a Feudalist (privately owned) Aristocracy (ran by the rich). I believe in giving people freedom to express themselves as long as it doesn't ill effect the people around them. You can smoke all the dope you want as long as you don't start robbing old ladies and harrassing people on the street for money to support your habits. The problem now is there is something about this society that seems to either be MAKING or ALLOWING too many Black people to be lazy and immoral and it seems to have reached a boiling point to where you can't go to a mall or turn on the television without seeing embarrassing evidence of this deterioration. Women cussing and shouting at their kids in the store with other women looking at them in shock and horror. Young men standing around with snot running out their nose and begging for money while rapping to themselves. Even when some of our people have professional customer service jobs like at the DMV and Post Office you'll find them slouching around 200 pounds overweight, uniforms fitting on them sloppy and chewing on a damn toothpick as they laugh and talk trash with eachother. The lack of professionalism among so many of our people is astounding. Even people from other countries can come over and immediately detect that something isn't quite right. This system is clearly not working for most of our people.

Cynique Lol.....you HOMOPHOBE !!!! I'm not going to defined religious hypocrisy but I will say that most people recognize that just like some crimes are more serious than others, it's reasonable to believe that some SINS are more serious than others. In most religions, fornication is not as bad as adultery and adultery isn't as bad as sodomy.

Admin Lol, are you talking to me or Cynique? She's the one accusing Black men of being oversexed creatures who walk around grinning with White girls dangling from their arms...not me. Then maybe I should have gone to college.....lol. But then again if I had....perhaps this conversation wouldn't be as lively. Well the status quo certainly isn't working so........

Cynique Lol, I see less interracial marriage between Black men and White women today than when I was a kid 30 years ago. When I was young most White men didn't want White women who were overweight and many would pass them up if they weren't blonde with blue eyes. After seeing them with Black men they decided to change their tune and take them back....lol. The media is actually promoting more White men with Black women than vice versa. Let's be clear, Black people aren't actually imitating the sexual habits of White people. They're TRYING to.... The problem is because of our biological make up, we can't. When White people try monogamy it usually results in sound healthy families; too often when our people and Latinos attempt monogamy it results in adultery and broken homes. The only non-White people who seem to be successful imitating European sexual and family habits seem to be East Asians. I suspect this is because their testosterone rates are similar to Whites. It's actually quite scientific. But the single biggest reason White women are able to practice better birth control and aren't walking around showing symptoms of STDs is becuase most tend to have access to better health care. Where is the "contradiction"? Polygamy isn't the same as promiscuity. Polygamy is MARRIAGE....a legally sanctioned contract that gives the spouses legal and financial benefits that simple "fucking around" (promiscuity) doesn't; not to mention giving children a more stable home to grow up in. I said adultery should be PUNISHED. Simple separation and even divorce isn't a real "punishment", especially when the offending spouse has no money to lose or no alimony to pay and therefor no real incentive to remain faithful in the first place. When I say punishment, I'm talking about forced to community service or hard labor...something that makes a person not want to continue the behavior. But the difference is..... I'm saying Black men are highly sexed by nature because most of our brothers were blessed with a high testoterone rate and I see it as a good thing. You're demonizing Black men by accusing them of being oversexed for lack of discipline. Only in a society where sex is considered sinful, demonic, and animalistic is a highly sexed man considered dangerous and bad. Broad sweeping generalizations????? Sort of like the way YOU accusing Black men of being horn-dogs.....lol.? Society......indeed civilization itself...has always been built around known patterns of behavior. AfroAmericans may be individuals but there is clearly a pattern of behavior found among our people and even if you don't realize this there are many social scientists who do. Corporations spend millions of dollars every year studying the patterns of Black behavior to figure out how to market to us and make money. Black people are individuals but there is a similar thread of thinking and behavior the runs through the community and social scientists understand this. You may have meant that as a slight, but actually you're quite on point, lol. I'm not the best looking man in the world..... I'm an introvert..... And I don't have a very high sex drive..... So I tend to focus on work and pushing my program more than romance. But when I want sex....I want it......but without the emotional drama that often comes with marriage in this society. The good thing is there are still women in this society who respect a man who is honest about his intentions, lol. But I'm NOT a married man so if I choose to screw around that's my business because I'm not hurting anyone in doing so, I took NO OATH to remain with one woman alone. When you're married things are different and you vow to a commitment and that commitment should be enforced.

Cynique Well...... There are entire websites dedicated to pregnant pornography, lol. Obviously the sexualization of pregnant women ain't sore on EVERYONE'S eyes! I see........ So what you're saying is, leave the protection alone and go ahead with oral sex because it's not enough to get an STD in the genitals where you can atleast hide it; now more people will have an opportunity to walk around with blisters and scabs on their mouths and noses! Lol....YOU'RE the one who continuously accuses Black men of "wanton breeding" and being horny bastards who want to hop on and hump every innocent unsuspecting woman who wanders through their line of vision! But you want to accuse ME of promoting a stereotype????? I'm not "failing to acknowledge" anything. I'm just not ashamed of Black sexuality and don't we should be pretending to be something we're not just to fit in and be accepted in a culture that clearly wasn't designed by or for us. The truth be told...... Some of our people actually DO pay more attention to their biological urges than their rational minds. Especially when they're young and don't have the maturity to acknowledge the full and projected consequences of their behavior. Most Black men don't reach full mental maturity until they get to be about 40. But a progressive society would understand and accept these facts and because they would expect this type of behavior, they would in turn design it's laws and cultural norms for it. You seem to suggest that we HIDE reality so as not to look like horny savages to White people. I on the other hand believe we should ACCEPT reality, embrace who we are, and make the best of who we are by proper preparation. Since we know young people WILL engage in sexual activity we will try our best to contain and eliminate sexually transmitted diseases (instead of calling them "God's curse") and make contraception and other forms of birth control more effective and available. Since we know our men are polygamous by nature, instead of plopping down in a chair with our arms folded and making silly remarks about the Black man's sexuality....lol. We would make polygamy legal but regulated and make adultery a punishable offense. That's the type of society a strong healthy Black family will develop and prosper in.

Cynique Actually, that would be ideal sometime in the future. But until we as a people gain the knowledge, discipline, and ethics to build and manage our own nation the next best thing is to be as successful as we can in this one and that starts with effective leadership in our local communities. Having a leader who is a good wheeler and dealer means that the deals he makes with the power that he has will benefit his constituents not make life harder for them. An alderman who can reduce crime and bring more city and state funds to his ward is worthy of his compensation. As hard as it may be for some people to stomach, the fact is, as long as he (or she) is progressing our community and getting things done then unless they're outright stealing it we really should get hung up about how much money they're making. For example.............. I know there are laws against it, but if Apple Computers were to pay my Mayor a million dollars to move it's headquaters to Detroit. If he agreed to take the money and allow them to come only under the condition that they brought 100,000 new jobs for the citizens of the city....why should I get angry and uptight that he took money from IBM? Look at the benefits! Look at the jobs he was able to bring! It's not like he cheated on his wife or killed somebody. He did what he was elected to do which is use his power to secure benefits for his people and he helped himself also. Would it to have been better than he refused the money and turn the jobs away too, just to so he can wear a white robe and a halo over his head as he walks among the unemployed homeless citizens of his city? Now if he's stealing money from the people and not doing anything for them, that's one thing- I don't support thieves, murderers, or adulterers. But I do support leaders who know how to negotiate, maintain law and order, and get things done. BTW, I don't support a dictatorship or any other form of totalitarianism. I think during times of emergencies they tend to be more effective than democracies, but in general I don't support them for the obvious reason that absolute power in the hands of a crazed or immoral man will lead to disaster. I personally think an OLIGARCHAL REPUBLIC is the ideal form of government. Similar to what we have today, Where a qualified few are elected to represent and rule the majority.

((Holds up an index finger in a professorial fashion)) Well now wait a minute, let us not miss the plot of the story here........ POLITICS IS ALL ABOUT MONEY AND POWER. And to be honest with you, I don't expect altruism from anyone I vote into office anyway. I want them to properly represent my district or city and bring as much money and jobs and perks home as they can get. I don't want to hear about some damn "budget deficit" or "finance reform"...lol. Now if my elected official can get rich in the process of doing this.....as long as I and the other constituents in the district/city are getting wealthier and more benefits as a result....good for them. You don't elect saints to office, you elect men with an agenda....and you should make sure THEIR agenda is in alignment with yours.