richardmurray

My comment elsewhere

right but while the truth, after all of that abuse, and the many changes that came with it, who do the Black folks descended from that want to be? I comprehend the post but the question going forward is what do the people descended from that pain, as well as earlier happy days or some happy days in between want to be?

In amendment

One of the problems with many abused groups is their abuse is usually collective, but unlike ancient times or earlier times, in modernity  their escape from abuse doesn't have to be and usually isn't.  That is the trick of the usa, one of the gifts of the british empire that created it, which itself brewed from its own creation from the roman empire that made western europe. You may subjugate an entire people brutally, but if you allow a trickle betterment, that can have the effect of keeping the subjugated group unmotivated for radical violent change. To be blunt, whether in the asian or african or american continent, the idea of individual growth is massive in black people's communities. Black people will talk communal growth heavily in advertising ways, but when you get down to function or results, most talk about individual growth. 

Yes, the question is, can a group of people grow through individual growth? 

The obvious answer is yes. nothing is impossible. 

What is the prosequence of such actions? Nonviolence. The biggest problem with any abused people is the fear of violence to those who abused. Again, the ira was a very small percentage of irish people, most irish people were too afraid to attack the english.  If an abused  community proclaims internally that their best way forward is individual growth then mass violence is deterred and that satisfies the fear in the abused group.

What is the consequence of such actions? Lost people. The reality is, and the proof is everywhere black people live in humanity at this point: africa/asia/europe/america , the consequence of individual growth as a collective action in the black community was and will be the annihilation of many  black peoples. Is Tulsa white people's fault? Yes , the violence is white people's fault. But who told black people non blacks can be trusted? who told black people non blacks will not attack black happiness? And the answer to both questions is black people themselves. The same people who tout individual growth also tout communal foolishness. why? for individual growth. If the community acts open, this allows for individuals in the community to grow.