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  1. On 10/7/2021 at 8:03 PM, Pioneer1 said:

    It didn't SAY this in the Bible.  You're FILLING IN the blanks by super-imposing these dates and ethnicities on the scriptures that don't mention them.

    You're trying to FORCE the scriptures to reconcile with your personal views.

     

    People have been doing that with scripture for THOUSANDS of years.

     

     

    THAT'S YOUR HANG UP--NOT MINES! @Pioneer1

    My primary basis when it comes to the Bible is based on SCIENCE. I gave you answer based on an EXACT SCIENCE, so if you don't want to believe that the date matches with this Western World Government at the time of the First War of Independence in the 8th government separating from the 7th Government in Europe [UK], that again is your HANG UP--Your denial of how the dates have lined up with PROPHECY. 

     

    FORCING SCRIPTURE??? The Scriptures clearly state this. Cognitive reasoning is an aspect of human intelligence. This is not forcing scriptures, in this case, you are denying what the scriptures present and blaming me for something I did not do. I merely responded to your inquiry of the RELEVANCE OF PROPHECY ABOUT THE GENTILES THAT CAME TO THE LIGHT. You asked me to respond to why this is important because you said that many of them do not believe today. Now, here you are admitting that you know of 'THE GENTILES' ethnicity [ethnicities] but trying to make it appear I am defining the Gentile on my own reasoning and personal viewpoint. smh.  

     

    The Bible is redundant with that term 'GENTILE' and correlate this term to the scriptures about the Roman Empire at the time of Jesus. smh. 

     

     

  2. On 10/8/2021 at 2:51 PM, Mel Hopkins said:

    Black men (not all) are so tied up in supremacy they've forgotten how to LOVE.

     

    Good point!

     

     

    On 10/8/2021 at 2:51 PM, Mel Hopkins said:

    The man who bought his wife back - probably couldn't get that out of his mind... Since then they've (not all) mimicked the supremacist's brain damage - and brought it back to the community. 

     

    Well said.

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  3. On 10/7/2021 at 9:41 PM, Rev said:

    How many of you believe that the so called RACE is CURSED?

     

    Black Race?

    The Human Race-- yes, I believe the whole world is cursed, both in a physical sense and a mentality sense.

    We are all born in sin and need to make choices to be able to get out of that nature of sin. 

    But as far as the physical aspect, that depends on how we develop a better mentality.

     

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  4. 21 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

    Actually I didn't JUST quit...I quit my job about a week ago.
    Dozens of us did.

    I've heard that anywhere from 1/4 to 1/3 of the entire workforce at the company I worked for have quit over the vaccine mandates that they are imposing.

    ((Don't worry Troy this isn't gonna be an anti-vaxx propaganda post....lol))

     

     

    Sorry to hear that you have to go through this @Pioneer1

     

    IMO, I am quite surprised though, that you are one of those that did not get the vaccination.

    Personally, I am not certain that the vaccine completely safe, however, after reading and thinking about this issue on a global scale and knowing that the vaccines are given worldwide and to senior citizens, that was enough for me to get it. I don't believe it will protect against the Delta Variant or the earlier variant very well, and I am concerned about the side effects and long term issue, however, I do believe that it is worth getting. Anyway, I hope that you will be able to get employed with a company that does not require the vaccination and that you will be okay.

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  5. On 10/7/2021 at 3:44 PM, Mzuri said:

    His injuries are so severe, he will never make a 

    full recovery and that is unfortunate.

     

    Truly unfortunate @Mzuri

     

     

     

    On 10/8/2021 at 10:34 PM, Mzuri said:

    I'm not going to debate about what he deserved, people need to stop 

    fighting the police and pulling knives and guns on them.

     

    So true. That just makes no sense to me. 

     

     

     

     

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  6. On 9/25/2021 at 3:44 PM, Pioneer1 said:


    You've contradicted yourself here, @Pioneer1. It is one in the same meaning. yes, it is redundant. The prophets that are referred to as Nebiim [ie. Neviim] all write about the apocalypse, 

     

    Did Isaiah write about the apocalypse?
    Did Moses write about the apocalypes?
    Did David write about the apocalypes?

    Not all of the prophets (Nabim/Nevim) wrote about the apocolypse.

     

     

    @Pioneer1 Yes. ISAIAH is one of the main prophets that wrote about the apocalypse.

    And yes again MOSES is the one the main ones that started the prophecy of End Times altogether!!!

    Yes again for KING DAVID!!! All of his decisions were based on the First and Second Coming and End times.

    That is what the term NEVIIM means!!! LOL. It refers to the major prophets of whom wrote about the 'TIME, TIME and HALF OF TIMES' meaning 

    the 1000 + 1000 + 500 year time period upon which afterwards would begin the End Times Judgment Period!

    The whole entire Bible is about THE MASTER PLAN! LOL.

     

     

    On 9/25/2021 at 3:44 PM, Pioneer1 said:

    It's not the same.
    That verse is talking about PROPHECY...and not everything in the Bible is a prophecy.

     

    @Pioneer1  I understand what you are saying (at least I think I do) Every Book in the Bible is written by prophets and so, everything written, whether it is parables, historical entry, other civilizations, other empires,  or etc. everything revolves around prophecy of End Times and God's Master Plan to save the human race.

     

    On 9/25/2021 at 3:44 PM, Pioneer1 said:

    But was that relevant?
    Seeing as how that was thousands of years ago and BILLIONS of Gentiles have born and died not accepting Jesus as their Lord and Savior.
    Infact on this planet RIGHT NOW there are billions of Gentiles who don't believe in Jesus being their Lord and Savior.

     

    Yes, it's relevant. Definitely because, as it was also prophesized about the Black kingdoms continually giving into White Supremacy, it was also prophecy that God got tired of delivering them, so he let the Gentile who came to the light continue for A TIME, TIMES AND HALF OF TIMES!

     

    It is prophecy that they would do the same thing that the Black kingdoms did and separate from God... hence, Separation of Church and State on July 4, 1776.

     

     

     

  7. On 9/25/2021 at 3:04 PM, Pioneer1 said:

    However I wonder does he feel like living, and going on?
    Or is he doing it for his children?

     

    This, I wonder too.

    I read where he said that he was in a lot of pain for most of the time.

    I deeply hope that he will get even better and NOT be in pain, nor have to take pain killers constantly.

     

    On 9/29/2021 at 10:00 PM, Mzuri said:

    but if this dude gave a care about his children he would

    have gotten a job and taken care of them instead of beating on his babymamas

    and instigating mess with the police.

     

    I did not know that he did not have a job!

     

    On 9/29/2021 at 10:00 PM, Mzuri said:

    the way some of these guys carry on 

    it’s like they want something bad to happen.  It’s as if they have a death wish.

     

    I wonder about the 'male testosterone'. I wonder if it is a mix of ignorance, oppression, and male testosterone?

  8. On 10/6/2021 at 10:26 AM, ProfD said:

    Getting the truth is a matter of asking the *right* questions. 

     

    Find the most qualified people capable of providing answers backed by evidence as necessary to your questions. 😎

     

    Yes.

     

     

    12 hours ago, nels said:

    If you're offended by the confederate flag, then you have a lot to learn.

     

    I guess then, I have a lot to learn because I believe that flag is offensive.

     

     

    11 hours ago, Rev said:

    how could even say such a thing if the black mind should stop looking at life through prism of race au contraire it’s the white mind that’s looking at thing through race Africans  embraced them and they turn around and devour them.

     

    Thank you!

  9. 2 hours ago, ProfD said:

    After 12 years of war, Haiti kicked the French in the azz.  For that effort, Haiti has endured the following:

     

    1) politically unstable

    2) ostracized by the international community

    3) owes a perpetual debt to France

     

    I applaud black countries all over the world for gaining their independence.  But, I fault them for not banding together in an ongoing effort to overthrow white supremacy. 

     

    WOW. Thank you!

    56 minutes ago, Rev said:

    Ayiti does suffer from spiritual confusion it’s not a case of serving two masters the government is so corrupt the powers that be be won’t let them I mean they tried as Ayiti the Haitians nation are meant to rule by a king they tried that they assassinate him he was assassinated by a mullato who. Hated blacks and call himself French so theirs a lot of agents in Haiti that won’t let the country prosper. They change the constitution and Duvalier tried to do it turn they exile his son and changed the constitution again but everything will  that are sealed will be revealed as we are approaching revelation or age of information nothing can’t stay they can only be hidden for a time and a period of time Gods words remain true as it’s stil being unfold from our very eyes.

     

    WOW!!! 

    AWESOME!!!

     

    43 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

    You're right.
    Ayiti is was meant to be ran by a King.....as are most Black nations.

     

    Absolutely!

  10. On 10/6/2021 at 7:18 AM, Guest Rev said:

    but I want to begins this discussion with what is civilization because that roots of our problem and solution.

     

    I believe that one of the key elements that define a civilization is 'Record Keeping'--Script.

     

     

    23 hours ago, ProfD said:

    The short answer to the question is that a civilization is a complex system (social, economic, political, etc.) of human beings working together in order to produce results.

     

    Yes

     

    17 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

    Rev

     

    Ok chief.....

     

    Backing Off GIFs | Tenor

     

    It's your world.
    Sorry to bother you.

     

    LOL

    14 hours ago, Cynique said:

    Since I have divorced the black race

     

    No!

     

  11.  

    Update Jacob Blake August 23, 2020

     

     

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    It’s been just over a year. On the one hand, I am elated that this young man did not die! I am so happy to know that he is getting medical attention, can stand up and possibly walk again due to the physical therapy and other medical attention he has been given. But on the other hand, it hurts to know that he has had to go through this ordeal all because of charges that began with a domestic dispute and other related charges. I call this kind of American justice a continual need of ‘Policing the Reformed Slave Yard’, Policing the DOS-Slaves from Black-on-Black rage’. This seems to be our American fate. Jacob’s predicament becomes a product of domestic disputes that became justified and monitored under American law and law actions that continued to pile up against him in court procedures as he continued to interrelate with Black women, and one in particular, that had a child with him and obviously some issues came to be a contention. So due to this type of contention and a girlfriend who phoned the police about Jacob coming to the birthday party of one of his children, this opportunity became used to justify the decision of a police officer to shoot Jacob multiple times in the back. And after investigation, that police officer, Shesky, was not found guilty at all, and as of April 2021, he has returned to full active duty. Now, I ask myself, had this been a domestic conflict between a White couple, would a police officer open fire on a White man shooting him seven times in the back? Should that police officer be cleared completely? Should he be allowed to return to full active duty?

     

     

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    “Yeah, I’m here, and yeah I’m about to be walking, but I really don’t feel like I

    have survived because it could happen to me again,” Blake says. “I have not

    survived until something has changed.”

     

    Today Blake is proud to even be able to stand, much less walk.

    Jacob Blake Speaks Out 1 Year Later: ‘I Have Not Survived Until Something Has Changed’ | Chicago News | WTTW

     

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    Trump and Biden visit Kenosha

     

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    But I wonder how other people feel about this. I wonder how Black people feel about this. I am bothered. I am so indifferent. On the one hand, I do believe that the slave yard needs to be policed by overseers, but on the other hand, I am in a state of depression. I wonder how Black women feel about this need to police Black Americans. I know how it feels to be absolutely vulnerable as the result of negative behaviors of Black men. However, I also think about our American justice system and, I find it so strange that I never hear Black women speaking of mistreatment from non-Black men. Slavery and slave rapes went on for hundreds of years… Can the effects of that be completely corrected? Do we view police officers as our deliverers, our heroes? I do not hear any significant Black woman rage against the mis-treatment from non-Black men or the historical mistreatment from our slave masters and from giving birth to our half-breed offspring. We will go after the Black man in a flash but on the other hand, I contemplate the obvious fate of the dark practices of slave yard rape and of modern day single Black mothers of children sired from non-Black men that end up in the welfare programs of America but yet, I hear nothing about them in a courtroom battle.

     

    Prosecutors have dropped a sexual assault charge against Jacob Blake,

    the 29-year-old Black man who was shot seven times by a white police

    officer outside a child's birthday party in Kenosha, Wisconsin in August.

     


    The dropped charge stemmed from a May incident in which a woman

    accused Blake of sexual assault. Prosecutors, however, acknowledged

    they were eager to make the plea deal with Blake, largely because his accuser wasn’t cooperating.

    Jacob Blake Secures Plea Deal, Sex Assault Charge Dropped | Crime News (oxygen.com)

     

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  12. On 9/16/2021 at 7:30 AM, Pioneer1 said:


    He's saying the PROPHECIES were inspired and not up to interpretation, not the Bible itself.


    The Bible itself isn't even printed in it's own original languages..but it's translated and interpreted in English
    So clearly that statement is wrong.

     

     

    @Pioneer1 It carries the same meaning!

    The scriptures are written by prophets! The fact that all humans speak in different languages does not change the actual meaning of prophecy and there is no private interpretation. People can and have put out false interpretations through mistranslations. So clearly what you are not understanding is the scripture is addressing deliberately acts of mistranslations! lol.

     

     that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 2 PETER 1:20.

     

    On 9/16/2021 at 7:30 AM, Pioneer1 said:

     I think it was just MISTRANSLATED into "Lord" by the English translators.

     

    No. it's not a mistranslation. "Ah" is a part of many holy names, both men and women and refers to their connection with the LORD of Lords. Abraham's wife Sarai's name was changed from 'Sarai' to "Sarah" by the Creator, then there is Leah, so many more. It is a proper translation.

     

    On 9/16/2021 at 7:30 AM, Pioneer1 said:

    t seems that for them the ONLY people they were focused on redeeming were the Israelites...not the entire world.

     

    Absolutely NOT true. The prophet Isaiah wrote that the Gentiles would come to the light! All the prophets wrote about how God so loved the world.

     

    " I can't believe in the Bible because it contradicts itself too much no matter how much you read and study it."

     

    If that is what you believe, then I can respect your personal belief, however, based on my research, the Bible absolutely does not contradict itself at all.

     

     

    On 9/16/2021 at 7:30 AM, Pioneer1 said:

    The end of the Caucasian world and his rulership on this planet.
    Not sure when it will end though.

     

     

    okay. yes! I agree!

     

    "Nebiim prophets don't mean "apocalyptic prophets" sis.
    It's actually a REDUNDANT term."

     

    You've contradicted yourself here, @Pioneer1. It is one in the same meaning. yes, it is redundant. The prophets that are referred to as Nebiim [ie. Neviim] all write about the apocalypse, therefore, they are referred to as the Apocalyptic prophets for that reason. 

     

    "But there's a difference between a "world" and a "government".
    A world is much greater.
    A world is a major system with many governments inside of it."

     

    Which what I did expound upon. However, I guess I did not make it clear so I will say a little more. Jesus came to save the world that the world through him might be saved. however, due to the adversary and free choice, many will choose darkness rather than light. So at the Judgment time, the souls that believe in Jesus will be saved and be aloud to ENTER INTO HIS KINGDOM, which is THE KINGDOM OF GOD. The Kingdom of God is not the same as world governments. 

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

  13. On 9/23/2021 at 7:59 AM, Addison said:

    One of the spells that a familiar spirit cast is to mix truth with falsehood.

     

    On 9/23/2021 at 7:59 AM, Addison said:

    giving the illusion that the “Slave Bible” was ordained by God.

     

    Awesome!!! 

     

    On 9/23/2021 at 7:59 AM, Addison said:

    The reasons for producing the Slave Bible are as follows:

     

    a), b), c) and d) Awesome!!!

     

  14. On 9/21/2021 at 11:15 PM, Guest anonymous50 said:

    Let me know what your thoughts are.

     

    I think this issue of the one-drop rule is based upon much deeper roots and goes much farther back in time.

     

    On 9/22/2021 at 1:56 PM, Pioneer1 said:


    It's a stupid rule devised by the British to allow more people to be enslaved and keep the White race "pure" in the U.S.

     

     

    yes. I agree.

     

    On 9/23/2021 at 2:56 PM, Mzuri said:

     

     

    But if Halle wanted a Black child, why didn't she get impregnated

    by a Black man instead of whitey?  She doesn't even make sense.  

     

     

    Ha! For real!

     

     

  15. On 9/13/2021 at 11:07 PM, Pioneer1 said:

    Can two opposing worlds dwell together at the same time on the same planet?

     

    I responded to this but my response did not submit, now I am tired. so I will be brief and respond later in more depth.

     

    On 9/13/2021 at 10:20 PM, daniellegfny said:

    The end of the world and Jesus coming into his Kingdom are two different things.

     

    @Pioneer1 The proper word would not be 'worlds' in this context. Perhaps it would be 'governments'.

    Can two opposing governments dwell together at the same time on the same planet.

     

    The government of the Great Adversary is distinct from the government of the Creator and here are a few distinctions:

     

    [1] The government of the Great Adversary is MARKED by it being A MATRIARCHAL GOVERNMENT, but it's deceptive in nature and appears as a patriarchal government. There are many positive Matriarchal governments though. But the government of Satan is based on him being INTERSEXED and he cannot produce a viable male individual. So his government deceptively appeals to the Government of the Creator and then attacks. He loathes malefactors and therefore the presence of Homosexuality is a mark of his government. The priesthoods overtime have always been deceptively appealed to in this manner. The system of the Adversary has continually infiltrated the priesthood and then introduce homosexuality of which has its origins in pedophile actions. 

     

    the government of God is A PRIESTHOOD and is based on his creation of a viable male individual. the Great Adversary loathes a priesthood government.

     

    [2] The government of the Great Adversary is 'a world government' --- AN EMPIRE GOVERNMENT--however it took thousands of years to form beginning with the start of the ROMAN EMPIRE. The Roman republic transformed into the Roman Empire with its first movement; 

     

    TO TAX THE WORLD

     

    LUKE 2:1-2

     And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus, that all the world should be taxed.
    [2] (And this taxing was first made when Cyrenius was governor of Syria.)

     

    World domination. That is the government of the Great Adversary. However, the Government of God is not a world government, but A KINGDOM government, meaning ii is based on INHERITANCE. An inheritance that begins with the original individual from Africa...

     

    [3] The government of the Great Adversary is based on Colorism. but the government of God is not...

    [4] The government of the World/Satan is based on Human Sacrifice, but the Kingdom of God is not...

     

    Empire government vs Kingdom styled government...

    I think this is what @daniellegfny might be addressing when he said that Jesus will come into His kingdom.

     

  16. On 9/13/2021 at 11:07 PM, Pioneer1 said:

    Really.....
    What would Jesus coming to establish his Kingdom mean...if NOT the end to this world?

     

    What does the 'end of the world' mean to you?

     

    The Nebiim prophets [Apocalyptic prophets] wrote in detail that world judgment which would be the very END of End Times would mark the beginning of world judgment. So, End times began at the start of the Roman Empire but goes way beyond that time up to the formation of this spiritual Babylonian empire government. ... which forms out of a 7-government system--7 headed beast. End Times is a long concept. 

     

    This world judgment 'end times' will not occur in one day--24 hours. The Great Babylonian city will not be destroyed COMPLETELY in one day.

    The prophets write that this powerful government will be destroyed beginning with a meteor storm and go through other series of catastrophic occurrences. And they further write that world judgment will begin to occur. 

    Many people called it 'JUDGMENT DAY' but in the book of Daniel, the JUDGMENT DAY does not occur in one day, but A TIME AND A SEASON.

    So it is a JUDGEMENT PERIOD not A Judgment Day. The prophet Isaiah also wrote about after this 1000+ year judgment period...

    A TIME AND A SEASON that means 1000 + 90 = 1090 years. So the world judgment will take another 1000+ years after the great Babylonian city will be destroyed. 

     

  17. On 9/12/2021 at 10:24 AM, Pioneer1 said:

    No Way!!! Not today. The scriptures say that THERE IS NO PRIVATE INTERPRETATION OF THE BIBLE TODAY. 
    TODAY, all of the SEALS of God have been opened!!!


    Really?
    Show me the scriptures where it says that.
    Book, chapters, and verses...........

     

    @Pioneer1 2 PETER 1:20

     

    Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

     

    DANIEL 12:9

    And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

     

    DANIEL 12:4

    But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

     

    On 9/12/2021 at 10:24 AM, Pioneer1 said:

    However, the Holy Spirit [which was actually Jesus Christ at this time] ,
    ?????
    This is the first time I've EVER heard that before.
    I don't think you got this out of the Bible, who told you this?

     

    In the Book of DANIEL this is revealed. In the first vision of End Times that Daniel had and wrote about, Daniel writes that the he saw an image of a man with hair white like wool, etc. and specifically describes him in relation to the Star of Bethlehem; I need to relook at that scripture to be exact, though. HOWEVER, years later, he had another vision about the END TIMES and he saw the same 'man' that spoke to him before. But this time 'In Chapter 12' Daniel writes that the man was dressed in LINEN CLOTH; and this would be a confirmation to Daniel's vision that was indeed JESUS THE CHRIST; he was dressed in his CRUCIFIXION linen-- a deep prophecy about what was going to happen in the future. ALL of the prophets confirm each other, for the prophet ISAIAH wrote in detail about the same prophecy of the coming of JESUS and that he would be crucified by an evil government. 

     

    "Did it say Moses spoke with The CREATOR face to face, or did he speak with Yahweh (Yahuah translated as "The Lord" in the Bible)  face to face?

    Some would argue that the Being referred to as Yahweh is not the same as The CREATOR"

    In the Bible, both the Creator and the name Yahweh correlate to each other. This is written about numerous times and explained repeatedly. There are different script forms of the name of the CREATOR and each separate term may describe more detail about the aspect and nature of the Creator. For example, when Moses said, 'whom shall I say to the people that you are?' The reply was to say 'I am that I am' and further on, the Creator explains that the Hebrews did not know him by this name JEHOVAH and further explains that name refers to his nature as A GOD OF WAR and with an outstretched arm, he will war and fight for and deliver his people. So under the name JEHOVAH many of the KINGS of Israel and Judah incorporated the root name of the Creator in their personal name such as JEHOSHAPHAT, and YEHOSHUAH [ie Joshuah], and JEHOAHAB, etc. because it is associated with being a WARLORD. Kings are defined as secondary priest and many used this name because a secondary priest were also warlords and/or peacemakers. However, the High Priesthood such as Isaiah and Jeremiah, had root name endings 'AH' ['Ah' meaning 'of the LORD' as you also wrote]...

     

     

    On 9/12/2021 at 10:24 AM, Pioneer1 said:

    This is more CONJECTURE on your part.
    If the "end times" really began 2000 years ago then the world would have ended already.

     

    No way!

    All the prophets wrote about certain aspects of THE REDEMPTION PLAN OF GOD for the world. And the major Nebiim prophets wrote that end times and beyond. 

    On 9/12/2021 at 10:24 AM, Pioneer1 said:

    This is what is called an "open ended" prophecy where you make predictions so broad and vague that they can be intepreted a thousand different ways to avoid being called "wrong".

     

    No way! Again, today, there is no private interpretation but we need to study and research to gain an understanding.

     

    On 9/12/2021 at 10:24 AM, Pioneer1 said:

    This is one of the reasons I left religion.

     

    I too understand that prophecy and what we endure now is frustrating! But @Pioneer1 you left religion and now then what do you believe in!? 

    This world? What this world has to offer us now!?

     

    On 9/12/2021 at 10:24 AM, Pioneer1 said:

    The open ended prophecies and the hypocrisy of people who CLAIMED the world was endeding and that they beleived Jesus was coming back..

     

    What does 'end times' mean to you? The prophets do write about Jesus coming back--THE SECOND COMING and their prophecies are in part detailed, however, you are right in tht they also write that no one knows exactly when this will actually occur. Jesus said that [paraphrasing] if people knew that the thief was going to come and rob them, then they would prepare, but if you want to go to this new future civilization, you need to live in peace now, because if you have a bad spirit now, then you will always be negative.' Sin and deception needs to manifest first. 

     

     

     

  18. On 9/6/2021 at 10:49 AM, Cynique said:

    None of these events which occurred after his death, ever garnered a lot of press coverage. Strange.  

     

    I agree.

     

    On 9/6/2021 at 12:57 PM, Cynique said:

    just recently King's 20 year old niece dropped dead while jogging. 

     

    WOW!

     

    On 9/6/2021 at 4:47 PM, Pioneer1 said:

    they don't teach people how to THINK for themselves or think critically and analytically.  They just prepare people for entry level work in a specific FIELD, how to meet deadlines, and how to follow instructions.

     

    True.

     

     

  19. On 9/6/2021 at 11:50 AM, Pioneer1 said:

    So I asked him to show me the EXACT scriptures, book, and verse where I could find that quote.

     

    Not a similar sounding INTEPRETATION.....but the exact quote since he claimed he got it from the Bible.
    And so far he hasn't.

     

    @Pioneer1 The Creator conveys messages to his creation in the Bible, through many verses and also in so many other ways!!!--And there is no way to EXACTLY give you EXACT scriptures in certain situations. We as humans CANNOT think in the way of the Supreme Being and we can understand what he wants us to understand but how we transfer our individual experiences to others is another unique concept!!!

     

    The Bible expounds upon this idea in many ways as well. Moses wrote that the Creator speaks to us in many formats such as parables, visions, etc. and many more ways, however, he specifically said to the people at tht time of the Exodus, that Moses was the only human being that he spoke with face to face. 

     

     

    On 9/6/2021 at 11:50 AM, Pioneer1 said:

    You can "interpret" and "read into" any scripture what you want...which is why I ask for the EXACT match.

     

    No Way!!! Not today. The scriptures say that THERE IS NO PRIVATE INTERPRETATION OF THE BIBLE TODAY. 

    TODAY, all of the SEALS of God have been opened!!!

     

    What does this scripture mean? It means that there was a time in the past that God had his prophets SEAL UP THE SCRIPTURES, meaning, that they wrote in such a way that the certain people could not understand what was being conveyed until God was ready for it to be revealed. The scriptures detail that by the time of the Crucifixion all of the seals had been opened so now, we live in a time where if we research and study the scriptures, we should come to  an understanding. And now, I will give you an example:

     

    In the book of DANIEL, the prophet Daniel wrote that he spoke to the Holy Spirit and told him, that he did not understand completely what was being conveyed to him. However, the Holy Spirit [which was actually Jesus Christ at this time] told Daniel, that it was not for him to fully understand at this time. Daniel was frustrated by his vision. Nevertheless, the Holy Spirit told him, to write down his vision, and to "GO THY WAY DANIEL, SEAL UP THE VISION, and at the end times, all will be completely revealed."

     

    Now, today after the Crucifixion, Daniel's vision has been completely revealed! And furthermore, the time of the Crucifixion MARKS the BEGINNING OF THE END TIMES. Many people are not aware of this. Many think that today is the end times, but no. The End Times actually began 2000 years ago. 

     

     

    On 9/6/2021 at 11:50 AM, Pioneer1 said:

    Well if those terms are interchangeable, then technically speaking the nations of Libya, Egypts, and Ethopia were NOT founded in the 19th century!

    They are much much older.

     

    Oh gosh! We are going in circles. @Pioneer1 Yes, they are much older, however, at the Berlin Conference, those countries were divided up as all of the the entire continent of Africa had been at that time and were defined as NATIONS by a new standard in the 19th century to serve the purposes of the Western leagues of nations. LEAGUE OF NATIONS!!! ----- League of NATIONS!!! ----- League of NATIONS!!! ------ League of NATIONS!!!!! ------ NATIONS----- NATIONS!!!!! 

     

    On 9/6/2021 at 11:50 AM, Pioneer1 said:

    I agree.
    Just like the PEOPLE of the ancient world were not like the PEOPLE of today or even the 19th century.


    But that's a far cry from saying people "didn't exist" and were "invented" in the 19th century as Troy said.

     

    Oh! okay. I didn't realize that was being conveyed. 

  20. Yes, I did! But I'd forgotten about it because it was never well broadcasted and kept in the media.

    That is shameful too, because the late Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. is continually honored and therefore, the death of his mother should also be brought out too much more.

     

    I remember reading about King on my own, and I learned some amazing history that is not mentioned in media. 

     

    But then, after all of the hype about Obama, I noticed how, even King's legacy was silenced. I remember people wearing t-shirts with Obama and King pictured but then after Obama won, 'no more King'. He almost completely disappeared. Nevertheless, before Obama, the whole world knew of King, Malcolm and the Civil Rights Movement, and no matter what, that history will still surface. 

     

    I hated the way, King was used to shift Black people over to support Obama. 

     

     

  21. On 9/3/2021 at 12:22 PM, Pioneer1 said:

    That competition on the track seemed to set off a bit of a back-n-forth between some AfroAmericans and Jamaicans on social media.
    It was crazy.

     

    Oh My Gosh! Really!? @Pioneer1

    That is terrible. My Brother-in-law is Jamaican! Therefore, some of my nephews are Jamaican! And pretty boys too!

    Well, I won't listen to that crap. Those Jamaican track girls are some of my all time favorites!

     

  22. On 9/3/2021 at 12:27 PM, Pioneer1 said:

    Jamaicans speak English; I don't know WHAT language that brother was singing in.
    Was it Hebrew?

     

    LOL! Guess what!?

     

    It was English! @Pioneer1

     

    As I wrote earlier, I listened to the song over and over again, but never even understood one word! Than after so many times of listening, I heard the radio announcer in the movie say, "Desmond Dekker" and "ISRAELITES" and then, I listened afterwards, and sure enough, then I heard the word "Israelites"! LOL.

     

    At first, I thought the singer was a European woman, but later, I thought, no, it's a black woman. It was only after I researched that I realized it was a Black Jamaican man!

    Desmond Dekker. And I didn't realize it was REGGAE!

     

    Now, I want to listen to more Reggae and also research it. I just love that song.

     

    On 9/3/2021 at 12:27 PM, Pioneer1 said:

    I LOVE Dollar Trees.
    First of all the products tend to be BETTER than Family Dollar or Dollar General and MUCH cheaper.
    Plus the stores are usually bigger and laid out much better and more open.

     

    You know what: I think that Dollar Tree and Dollar General are owned by one company; they may have merged. I agree, I think that Family Dollar and Dollar General are too cluttered! Dollar General has a aisle for items for a dollar, and I like that aisle!

     

    Sometimes though, especially during the busy holidays, I like to go to those two stores more so than Walmart because I can get in and get out faster. But they can be more expensive!

     

     

     

     

  23. On 9/4/2021 at 7:20 PM, Pioneer1 said:

    The problem is those two quotes don't reconcile with eachother.

    You said you get the FIRST quote out of the Bible, but when I asked you for scripture, book, and verse...you give me an entirely DIFFERENT quote!

    Someting ain't jiving.

     

    Oh WOW! @Pioneer1 I just read the interchange and I understand exactly was @daniellegfny conveyed!

     

     

    On 9/3/2021 at 1:05 PM, Pioneer1 said:

    o you're gonna focus on the word "nation" and say since they weren't called "nations" before 19th century...then that means the NATION of Egypt and NATION of Ethiopia and NATION of Libya didn't exist before the 19th century?


    So if I showed you in the BIBLE where Ethiopia and Egypt were referred to as NATIONS....and the Bible was written BEFORE the 19th century....would you STILL hold the same position that they were "invented" in the 19th century?

     

    As I said previously, those terms are interchangeable, and more importantly, the history of those 3 countries are too extensive to capture in one term. In ancient Egypt, Libya and Ethiopia, there were DEFINITELY time periods where 'nations' formed but NOT AT ALL like the 19th century 'Nations' that were formed under the Western Leagues that carved up Africa for their benefit. 

     

    On 9/3/2021 at 1:05 PM, Pioneer1 said:

    That definition you just gave is NOT a definition of the Bible that I can agree with.

     

    The Bible as 'The Book of LIfe' may not agree with what you believe, however, that root word is factual and does apply. This concept you have problems with however, it does correlate to other ancient 'books' as well such as the Egyptian 'Book of the Dead'; these are concepts that you need to get a bigger view in order to understand the whole scope. 

     

     

    On 9/3/2021 at 1:05 PM, Pioneer1 said:

    See...and again, the definition keeps changing.
    Not only can't I agree with YOUR definition of what a Bible is..but YOUR definitions of what the Bible is keeps changing from one era to the next.

    If we can't nail down an exact definition, the argument can be ongoing because as soon as I present you with THIS date....you'll switch to another definition with another date attached to it.

     

    LOL! Uh! Yes, the definition is variable because of the written works that covers thousands of years! There is no 'nailing' down one single term! Anyway, you asked me to give you some links to the definition of the word 'Bible' and so, even though you say that you don't believe in the Bible, I will give you some links that you requested:
     

     

    The Bible

     

    Noun 1. 1. The Christian scriptures, consisting of the Old and New Testaments.

    “verses from the Bible”

     

    bible definition - Google Search

     

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    What does the word Bible mean literally?

     

    The word bible does not mean book—it means library, from the Latin Biblicum, akin to the German Bibliothek-library. … Bible actually means literally library, not book. Aug 26, 2021

     

     

    Bible | Definition of Bible by Merriam-Webster

    https://www.merriam-webster.com > bible

     

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    The Bible takes its name from the Latin Biblia (‘book’ or ‘books’) which comes from the Greek Ta Biblia (‘the books’) traces to the Phoenician port city of Gebal, known as Byblos to the Greeks.

     

    Bible – World History Encyclopedia

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    What are the meanings of Bible?

     

    The English word Bible is derived from Koine Greek: …, romanized: ta biblia, meaning “the books” (singular …, biblion). The word … itself had the literal meaning of “scroll” and came to be used as the ordinary word for “book”.

    Bible - Wikipedia

     

     

    The Bible (from Koine Greek …, ta biblia, ‘the books’) is a collection of religious texts, writings, or scriptures sacred in Judaism, Samaritanism, Christianity, Islam, Rastafari, and many other faiths. It appears in the form of an anthology, a compilation of texts of a variety of forms that are all linked by the belief that they ae collectively revelations of God. These texts include theologically-focused historical accounts, hymns, prayers, proverbs, parables, didactic letters, admonitions, essays, poetry, and prophecies. Believers also generally consider the Bible to be a product of divine inspiration.

    Bible - Wikipedia

     

     

    On 9/3/2021 at 1:05 PM, Pioneer1 said:

     

    and like you @Pioneer1 I believe that that group strongly believe in the Bible

     

    They aren't like me. Because I don't believe in the Bible.

     

     

    No. I meant, that 'like you stated to ; in that I agree with you in that the Hebrew Israelites strongly believe in the Bible'. I definitely did not mean that you believe in the Bible. 

     

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