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  1. @Kareem Yes, but again, this is sad. Divide and conquer tactics, that is how I view it. And, I agree with you in that the hostility and arrogance goes both ways. No, I don't like it when I think foreign people of African descent seem to snub us. However, I have so many African people and West Indians that are my friens, I hate to even think about the negative aspect. One of my sons is dating a young girl from the West Indies and she is so lovely. Just last week another young girl came up to me to share with me information about her church, and I shocked her, when I let her know I knew where she was from. I said to her, "you are from Eritrea, aren't you?" Well, she was so shocked that she ran up to me and grabbed me. She said, "how did you know!?" lol. Deep down inside, I feel like she was stressed, like she is searching for something, for peace. So, I let her talke to me for a while. My heart goes out to her. But then, I dunno, some of the Eritreans can speak English much better than me. They can even cuss you out, in English! LOL. @Pioneer1 Yes, I understand. I do believe that some women look great with short hair or no hair, but not for me. Oh yes.
  2. @StefanSo, here you come with this typical statement in that poor Black people simply refuse to purchase health insurance, that Obama has now made a federal tax-health law. And here you come with your efforts to try and define all Black people as negative because we don't worship Obama and your voting system and homosexual-pedophilia. Even though Obama was elected for 2 terms, to try and get us all to vote even though the damage is already done. Obama won 2 election terms, so why are you whining about Black people not voting for him? I agree with what the young man, Kaepernick once stated in that this system needs to be overhauled. Oh Wow, you need to go back many years when this whole earth has been set up to pay for health issues of the colonizers? Europeans have caused this whole world to pay for health issues that coulds have been avoided. Now, if African Americans were properly educated by this system, they would know how Europe was set up and it seems as if, they gave everybody healthcare, but then all of a sudden, ... millions of ethnic people were exterminated. This is what bothers me about this repeat. I only mentioned certain topics that you listed because I feel that is the major issue that has damaged us. Obama to suck them into having to pay for even more health issues that were not inherently our issues, in the first place. Soon or later, many Black people are going to realize that they have been tricked into paying taxes, taxes, and more taxes through this healthcare-tax law, that was orchestrated for that very reason. All lower class people have been affected by that law, however, the poor AFrican Americans are completely sacked. They have been completely sacked and punished for being Black, and not being able to get decent paying jobs. Obama knows that this system will not help Black people in the job market, yet he put this law on us anyway. I am grateful, that I did not have to pay $1,6240 per month penalty, because, I fought and fought and fought the paperwork and stayed on the phone endlessly trying to learn how to be lawbiding, but it was difficult.
  3. @Kareem Yes, I believe that we are sicker than ever before! Oh no! This reminds me of a funny film that I loved, Black Knight starring Martin Lawrence. LOL! But, yeah! Don't get me started on that topic. I went rounds with my house friends [housemates] on this topic. They must have thought I lost my mind when they came home from work and saw a paper I posted on the Frig with bullet points on the things that they should not do with their cats! LOL! You have no idea! This is very sad. And, I think this has to do with our beginning here in America. Black women were not threatened if they spoke against Blacks but, they knew that they could not do that when it came to White people. So, many bond with White men and will never say anything if they are harmed because it will never go to court. LIke I responded to @Pioneer1 too, I believe this all happened before colonization. But many think this only began with America. REally!? I didn't know this. @Kareem Why put a limit on it? But yes, it may be asking too much for today, because we are lost, for the most part. But why not let it start with you!? Education, and knowledge of self. That is the key. YOu know, you can stil be alone with a partner, especially if the relationship is not working. Selling out is relative. Just because a person chooses to date outside of his or her race, does not necessarily mean that they are selling out. But, imo, a person should have Knowledge of Self before making these choices. or else they will be sucked into a world that they will become invisible; and in that it would be kind of like selling out.
  4. @Maurice That was the first time I ever saw that video. In the paragraph below, it said that was Quincy Jones daughter? I never knew! I was too young to be in the main stream with a lot of this kind of music, but I grew to get to know about the Rolling Stones and, yes, I do like them. I like Mick Jagger. But when I think about the Rolling Stones, I think about Mick, and don't know all that much more about the group, as a whole. For some strange reason too, whenever I hear about Mick Jagger, I always think about Carly Simone, but I don't remember what she has to do with this? Anyway, thanks for posting this, it's bringing back some memories. @Kareem Not much! LOL. But, I listen to this song you posted, and Ahhhhhh! brings back memories! I love this song! I never saw this video before, and was never into watching videos. I usually don't watch videos, deliberately because, I always feel that I am somehow being conditioned to watch someone elses vision, and it takes away from my own freedom of interpreting music that way I need to when I listen. But, I did watch this video, and I love it!!! She is so pretty and this video makes be remember being a teenager in California, walking on the beaches and just enjoying life! I will come back to look at the other music and videos you posted. I love the song Good Times, by Chic! And, I am learning a lot about how some of the artist came together to make songs that I loved in the past. I knew about Michale Jackson and Paul, but I didn't know about Mick Jagger and etc. This is interesting!
  5. Yes, I agree. But, it was not like we didn't know this, or we should have realized that this would happen. Oh no, it didn't. I don't understand how Black people couldn't see what was going to happen with this one. I believe that the Baby Boomers are not harmed by this HEALTHCARE-TAX LAW. But I suspect now, many Black people are quiet because they are flooded with tax problems due to this law. I don't believe Baby boomers understnad what happened because they are not the one really crushed, but it is the X-generation and the millennials that became dropped. Okay, so, for me, it went like this; If you did not clear a certain salaray range, to at least make about $16,000/year you DID NOT QUALIFY for the tax break for a cheap healthcare program nor could ou qualify for the Health Marketplace program. So, you would be charged about $1,600 EVERY MONTH!-- unless you bought an healthcare program which would have been very high! If you did not buy healthcare, then come tax file season, your taxes were seized and you would owe IRS and this is probably going on for years. So, let's talke about me, as an example. I graduated from college with a degree in Biology/Secondary Education. I passed NTE--National Teacher's Examination above average. I worked in my field of sciences until I was married and had children and this interupted me. Then, I was pursued by the government to pay back college loans so, I was pressed to work and leave my children with babysitters. Soon, I lost jobs for reasons due the care of my children. Soon Obamacare becomes a FEDERAL LAW and I now, am struggling to make the income to NOT be charged $1,600 every month... I escaped this horrible fate because of following my faith. I didn not abandoned my children and go back to work a paycheck to paycheck existence salary. I made a sacrifice for my children and supported my husband. So, my children did better at school than me, and helped me escape that terrible HEALTHCARE-TAX LAW until Trump's cabinet shot it down. So, for the past years, I have not been able to get adequate healthcare at all!... That's another problem! As of 2019, if you did abide by Obamacare, up to 2018 before it was knocked down, now, you then qualify to be comepletely EXEMPT from the fines of having to pay @1,600 every month because you don't make a high enough salary. If you don't make enough, now, you do NOT have to pay that high penalty. So for the past years, many millennials who had to work 2-3 jobs to care for their young kids and make enough to avoid that penalty, and as a result, drop their kids off at babysitters they probably could not afford, or drop their kids off at school and had them wait until nighttimge to be picked up, are sacked. For the X-generationals who had to help their adult kids while working low-paying jobs to avoid the tax penalty, their lives won't get better and they probably will owe taxes for a long, long time. I don't think baby boomers know what is going on. I agree that Obama tried to help us, but he did not. It is worse now. In this, Black America should have NOT supported a 'Black' president. As you say, under this system, whether it's a black man or white, they cannot go against a government that was set up to suppress Blacks. This is a bait and switch system. It set up on religion, all the while having chattel slavery, and then switch over to election, in order to keep chattel slavery.
  6. Millie Riley’s Daughter THE FIRST LADY OF LITTLE ROCK DDD—An Essay On The Late Daisy Gaston Bates I had never heard of Daisy Lee Bates, perhaps because I was born a few years after this time or perhaps because it was not part of my formal education, nevertheless, I think that she was amazing. So, she is my feature today, DDD—Dove’s Doll of the Day. Although, I researched this story a few years ago and planned to share this information in some type of written format, however, it upset me so much that I chose to distance myself from it for a while, until I felt emotionally strong enough to absorb it better. I stumbled across this historical piece and decided to do some research and realized that I did hear about many brief accounts of this conflict in the Civil Rights Movement. I remember reports of Black African American (Colored) students being escorted by the Federal government to school in the state of Arkansas when integration became enforced by the government. When I was very young and travelled to Arkansas with my mother and Stepfather, I remember some recounts of this story. And I vaguely remember hearing about a Black (African American) woman of whom had become back in the media when she became older and became some type of news reporter of whom had also moved to South Africa for a while or something like that. So, as I began to look up information about this woman who was supposedly, one of the students who had faced an angry mob of White students, however, I stumbled across Daisy Lee Bates for the first time, and was astounded by her courage. So, therefore, I will share some of the information about her life and some of what interest me. Daisy Lee Gatson Bates was born in 1914 in a small town in Arkansas, called Huttig, so that would mean that she was born around the time of the World War. She was born in what was known as a SHOTGUN HOUSE to her biological mother and father, Hezakiah Gatson and Millie Riley. Her father, Hezakiah worked in a lumber mill as a lumber grader but while Daisy was only a few months old, her mother was murdered, so not much longer after that day, her father eventually gave her to his close friends, a war veteran and his wife and after that, Daisy never saw her father Hezekiah again. Now, Daisy learned at the tender age of eight (8), that her mother Millie Riley, was raped and then murdered by three local white men and then dropped into a millpond. Nothing was ever done about it! The killers were never brought to justice. Her adoptive father told her that the police did not pursue the matter, so Daisy was left to internalize this horror as she matured. Based on the counsel of her adoptive father, however she decided to channel her pain and hatred that she acquired due to such the terrible predicament she was faced with as a result of the racism and death of her mother into a direction that made her feel that she had contributed her life in a positive way. So, Daisy became a Spokes Person for Civil Rights issues and she became a key figure in the federal enforcement of school integration, in that her house became a safe zone, sort of like a headquarters, for the select Arkansas Black students to seek rest, support and encouragement, students that had been selected to begin their school year in an all-White high school in 1957. So, Daisy continued to channel her life in this positive mode for many years and died in the year 1999, at the age of 85, and after achieving many, many awards for her bravery and self-sacrifice. This kind of newfound information inspired me to research more into just what happened to these students and how Daisy dealt with these issues and I was amazed to learn that today, there have been recent films to recapture some stories of the students who have grown up to adulthood. But most of all, for me anyway, deep down inside would be a pang of pain because of the silence given to the fate of Ms. Miley Riley; another Black woman tortured unto death and after already being victimized and marginalized in this world. Why was the death of Daisy’s mother so quietly ignored? I shared my disdain with my husband, and, to my surprise, his response was not what I was prepared to receive. Why did the police not pursue the criminals diligently for the violent death of Miley Riley? And, why has the Black community not pursued justice in this matter either? Was the news of this awful crime not even put in the newspapers? What ever happened to Daisy’s father? If, in fact, Daisy was informed that her mother was raped and killed by ‘three White men’, well then, somebody knew some other details! Surprisingly to me though, was my husbands’ response when I shared my thoughts with him. He said to me, “You need to look closer. Do you see that Daisy is very light-skinned? So, her mother could have been White or part-White, or maybe her father was White.” Uh oh—I never considered that position of Colorism and White Supremacy and the position of the ‘Colored People’ in the deep south in how they were victimized by the evil motivations of White Supremacist. Oh My God! So, even today, many Baby Boomers don’t talk about their lives back in those times. This story reminds me of one of my favorite movies, a 2003 film, Holes, produced and directed by Andrew Davis, starring the late Eartha Kitt, Shia LaBeouf, Dule Hill and Patricia Arquette. But in this movie where the White girl fell in love with the Black man, it was the Black man that was pursued and killed by a racist White mob, which would be a common crime in the south. But then, the very actress, Eartha Kitt’s personal life’s story sort of strikes at another horror of those times when Colorism becomes wickedly explored and exploited amongst ‘the Colored Race’ on many dark levels of abuse that should have been brought to justice! So although, the story of Miley Riley and Daisy Bates causes me to think about all of these issues, however, it also causes to me to think about how many ‘Colored’ women like Eartha Kitt fell in love with White men due to the unthinkable crimes committed against them by way of African Americans. Based on all of the other stories like these, it seems obvious that this government has not been set up affectively, in all of these hundreds of years, to deal with these kinds of crimes against humanity but at least, Daisy Bates was able to do something positive for her life to combat racial injustice, in a way that gave her some kind of recompense for the anguish she endured. … The unaltered Blossom Plan had gerrymandered school districts to guarantee a black majority at Horace Mann High and a white majority at Hall High. [6] This meant that, even though black students lived closer to Central, they would be placed in Horace Mann thus confirming the intention of the school board to limit the impact of desegregation. [6] The altered plan gave white students the choice of not attending Horace Mann, but didn’t give black students the option of attending Hall. This new Blossom Plan did not sit well with the NAACP and after failed negotiations with the school board; the NAACP filed a lawsuit on February 8, 1956. This lawsuit, along with a number of other factors contributed to the Little Rock School Crisis of 1957. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Rock_Nine By 1957, the NAACP had registered nine black students to attend the previously all-white Little Rock Central High, selected on the criteria of excellent grades and attendance. [2] Called the [“] Little Rock Nine [”], they were Ernest Green (b. 1941), Elizabeth Eckford (b. 1941), Jefferson Thomas (1942-2010), Terrence Roberts (b. 1941), Carlotta Walls LaNier (b. 1941), Minnijean Brown (b. 1941), Gloria Ray Karlmark (b. 1942), Thelma Mothershed (b. 1940), and Melba Pattillo Beals (b. 1941). Ernest Green was the first African American to graduate from Central High School. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Rock_Nine I have come to understand that during the Civil Rights Movement, there were sharp differences of opinion on how racism and White Supremacy should be addressed and, I do question the decision and justification to send select young Black people to an all-White school environment during a time when, previously, White people felt they had that human right, to have an all-White institution protected by law. White Supremacy, in this nature would be a conditioning that was fostered for over a long period of time and now, by sending those young Black kids into their all-White environment, may have furthered the feelings of White Supremacy, not only for White people, but for Black people as well. One of the Little Rock Nine students recalled that they were all told they ‘would have to take a lot and were warned not to fight back if anything happened’. And many years later Daisy recounted in an interview that certain Black reporters were actually killed by the mob on the first day the Arkansas Nine attempted to attend school. The Little Rock Nine was a group of nine African American students enrolled in Little Rock Central High School in 1957. Their enrollment was followed by the Little Rock Crisis, in which the students were initially prevented from entering the racially segregated school by Orval Faubus, the Governor of Arkansas. They then attended after the intervention of President Dwight D. Eisenhower. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Rock_Nine When integration began in September 4, 1957, the Arkansas National Guard was called in to [“] preserve the peace [”]. Originally at orders of the governor, they were meant to prevent the black students from entering due to claims that there was [“] imminent danger of tumult, riot and breach of peace [”] at the integration. However, President Eisenhower issued Executive order 10730, which federalized the Arkansas National Guard and ordered them to support the integration on September 23 of that year, after which they protected the African American students. [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Rock_Nine I believe that a government in a civilized system should be responsible for the formal education of its people in a safe environment to thrive and learn. The issues of Integration, Segregation and Desegregation, should not lead Black children to be put in harm’s way. However, at that time, Black people who acted under the NAACP and other organizations accepted this approach of Integration and there were new laws that led up to the eventual selection of a handful of Black students selected to deal with integration. These students in Arkansas and elsewhere were enrolled into an all-White learning institution in order to be educated in a multi-cultural environment because the federal laws had been changed due to a supreme court case upon which it was deemed that segregation was unconstitutional. I am absolutely grateful in the federal government and in the step to ‘right a wrong’ about segregation, however, the process in ‘fixing a wrong’ led to young people being placed in a hostile environment, and so I wonder could this have been avoided? Even though the federal government made a bold step to protect the Little Rock Nine by sending out troops, initially, however, that enforcement did not continue. This step of our federal government was heartfelt by certain White people also, and it gave Daisy Lee Bates a pathway to deal with her past life of oppression and the heart rendering death of her mother of which was ignored by the system. And, Daisy also endured more evil treatment from racist due her courage to be a spokesperson for Civil Rights issues and for offering up her house as a safe haven and her help to support the ‘Little Rock Nine’. Not only was she the next person to come to the microphone after the late Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. in the March on Washington, however, an elementary school has been named in her honor in Little Rock, Arkansas, a street has been named after her and she has been given many more honors and awards. Following are some references, quotes and brief videos of this story of Daisy Lee Gatson-Bates and the Little Rock Nine. Furthermore, I found it interesting in one video where the film showed an old newspaper clips to suggest that the death of Millie Riley had been reported. Therefore, I decided to do some research on what I saw, and it became clear to me that was deception. In the video, the newspaper clip reported around the time that Daisy was young, that a ‘Negre woman named Minnie Harris, also known as ‘Pete’ was murdered and her body was thrown into a pond nearby the mill’. So, then I searched for more research and have presented some quotes and accounts of Daisy in her memoirs about the life of Millie Riley and the mystery that surrounds her life’s end. The U.S. Supreme Court issued its historic Brown v. Board of Education of Topeka, Kansas, 347 U.S. 483, on May 17, 1954. Tied to the 14th Amendment, the decision declared all laws establishing segregated schools to be unconstitutional, and it called for the desegregation of all schools throughout the nation. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Rock_Nine [1] Elizabeth Eckford—Little Rock 9 . Governor Orval Faubus deployed the Arkansas National Guard to support the segregationists on September 4, 1957. The sight of a line of soldiers blocking out the students made national headlines and polarized the nation. Regarding the accompanying crowd, one of the nine students, Elizabeth Eckford, recalled: They moved closer and closer. [[…]] Somebody started yelling. [[…]] I tried to see a friendly face somewhere in the crowd—someone who maybe could help. I looked into the face of an old woman and it seemed a kind face, but when I looked at her again, she spat on me. [7] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Rock_Nine Woodrow Wilson Mann, the mayor of Little Rock, asked President Eisenhower to send federal troops to enforce integration and protect the nine students. On September 24, the President ordered the 101st Airborne Division of the United States Army—without its black soldiers, who rejoined the division a month later—to Little Rock and federalized the entire 10,000-member Arkansas National Guard, taking it out of Faubus’s control. [9] … By the end of September 1957, the nine were admitted to Little Rock Central High under the protection of the 101st Airborne Division (and later the Arkansas National Guard), but they were still subjected to a year of physical and verbal abuse by many of the white students. Melba Pattillo had acid thrown into her eyes [10] and also recalled in her book, Warriors Don’t Cry, an incident in which a group of white girls trapped her in a stall in the girls’ washroom and attempted to burn her by dropping pieces of flaming paper on her from above. Another one of the students, Minnijean Brown, was verbally confronted and abused. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Rock_Nine [2] Jefferson Thomas- Little Rock 9 His parents named him after Thomas Jefferson, President of the United States. Thomas first attended Horace Mann High School, a segregated all-black school, where he was a track athlete. In 1957, he volunteered to be among the first group of black students to integrate all-white Little Rock Central High School … Thomas narrated the United States Information Agency’s 1964 file Nine from Little Rock. … The goal of this government film, in the context of the Cold War, was to show, to countries concerned about American racism, that progress the United States had made with respect to civil rights. It achieved this goal at least in part as the film received wide acclaim (including an Academy Award) and was distributed to 97 countries. [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Thomas … Claiming that Little Rock had to assert their rights and freedom against the federal decision, in September 1958, Faubus signed acts that enabled him and the Little Rock School District to close all public schools. [16] The black community became a target for hate crimes since people blamed them for the closing of the schools. [19] Daisy Bates, head of the NAACP chapter in Little Rock, was a primary victim to these crimes, in addition to the black students enrolled at Little Rock Central High School and their families. [20] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Rock_Nine [3] Minnijean Brown-Trickey –Little Rock 9 In her late 20s, she married Roy Trickey, a white social activist she met while attending South Illinois University. (The interracial marriage, which ended in divorce, was "not a political statement at the time," she says with a laugh, when asked. "Life just happens.") Together, they moved to Canada, so he could avoid the draft during the Vietnam War. In the northern farming community of Kenebeek, Ont., she raised a brood of six children, five of whom she gave birth to at home. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/arts/a-courage-unequalled/article997104/ [4] Charlayne Hunter-Gault—Little Rock 9 Although the Lost Year had come to a close, the black students who returned to the high schools were not welcomed by the other students. Rather, the black students had a difficult time getting past mobs to enter the school, and, once inside, they were often subject to physical and emotional abuse. [24] The students were back at school and everything would resume normal function, but the Lost Year would be a pretext for new hatred toward the black students in the public high school. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Rock_Nine Daisy Bates: Civil Rights Crusader from Arkansas (Margaret Walker Alexander Series in African American Studies) By Grif Stockley Copyright © 2005 by University Press of Mississippi, Jackson The difficulty with this story is that the Huttig News contains no account of the violent death of a black woman named Riley between the years 1913 and 1920. [17] The paper does briefly mention a story in 1917 about the murder of a young black woman named Minnie Harris whose body was “thrown in the large storage pond” near the mill. [18] A neighbor was arrested, but the story was apparently not followed up. Yet the story that Bate’s mother was raped and killed by white men is often repeated. … page 17 On the subject of Bates’s birth father, Clifford Broughton volunteered, “I think her daddy may have been white.” … For her part, Bates writes in her memoir she was told by her cousin “Early B.” that her “daddy was a light as a lot of white people.” 22 Broughton confirmed Bates’s account of her friendship with “Early B. Broughton,” who was his father’s first cousin. … … her cousin Early B. told her that she looked like her mother, who was, “very pretty, dark brown, with long black hair.” Page 20. https://books.google.com/books?id=v1JEVWpapWkC&pg=PA17&lpg=PA17&dq=Minnie+Harris,+Huttiq,+Arkansas,+murdered&source=bl&ots=IoQ75Bve3a&sig=ACfU3U1KXteTjKafkVqbnwNwhLh_GZiNWQ&hl=en&ppis=_e&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwix4LK1uqvnAhW1l3IEHWnaDSIQ6AEwCnoECAoQAQ#v=onepage&q=Minnie Harris%2C Huttiq%2C Arkansas%2C murdered&f=false --- [5] Carlotta Walls-LaNier—Little Rock 9 [6] Ernest Green—Little Rock 9 [7] Gloria Ray Karlmark—Little Rock 0 [8] Thelma Mothershed—Little Rock 9 [9] Melba Pattilo Beals—Little Rock 9 *My Note: Some of my pictures did not post. There is so much that can be presented about each and everyone of the Little Rock Nine, and I hope that more can be presented soon.
  7. @Pioneer1 Why you laugh, my brother!? LOL. Okay, it may depend on phenotype and cultural upbringing. For example, if an African American woman or such like is very fair skinned and sired a son from a White European-typed man, and also she herself was not raised culturally in a Black culture, then her son could 'PASS' as being White European. And then too, based on American standards and even law, even if her son was sired by a White man or other, then he would still be considered 'the race of his mother', but not in the Biblical definition. So, your question has made me rethink what I said on a broader sense. Well, I have not heard of her before this post, however, yes, as you said in another post, she does cuss a lot, but she is --WOW!! She is on point. She's awesome! Sista broke it down. @Pioneer1 For you, it's about Alex Wek's features and for @Kareem it's about her short or not having hair and then too, I read your response to @Troy however, I am still thinking about what you all have written. I plan on returning to this topic soon to add some more of my thoughts.
  8. Hi doll! Miss you. 

    1. Mel Hopkins

      Mel Hopkins

      HI @Chevdove  I'm here! I'm mostly posting in black lit, readingblack and my blog here -"Marketing is a 4-letter word here.  I'm still reading your posts too!  😘

    2. Mel Hopkins

      Mel Hopkins

      @Troy  my "when someone post on my profile" notifications is disabled.  I didn't know that Chevdove sent me a "hello"... Would you allow my profile to receive notice.  I just tried to set the alert but I got a noticed that "toggle is disabled by administrator"

  9. So true. I can understand how some men don't like women with short hair or no hair, but I just think that girl is stunning. @I love black forums So glad to read you again!
  10. @I love black forums Wow! You said a lot, and it's deep and I can competely understand. The sad issue hear is that, if these type of Black women have sons, well, their sons will be BLACK MEN!!! No matter if they have sons from Black men or White men, their sons will be Black! NOw, just imagine what kind of conditioning they will have when they hear their mothers talk negative about Black men! This is the part that is crazy! LOL! WOW! You gotta be kidding! ... A child!? So, here, these women, you say, are Dark skinned, and they are attacking a dark skinned actress and her CHILD! That is crazy! @Kareem LOL! No, I wouldn't do that. I understand. But just for the record, that girl is absolutely beautiful!!! And so is the other one, but @Pioneer1 posted another photo of her in another thread some time back and it was a much better picture imo. @Kareem I don't know, you might be a little too militant to be Swirling, as-you-put-it now! LOL! Or, if you feel you must, then hopefully she can hang with the hot topics!
  11. @Kareem I immediately chuckled when I read your comment here, but then seriously, I understand. My question is, when did this trend start and who started it, Black men or Black women? Quickly, I wil answer my own question because 'it's a loaded question' that I feel has been answered the wrong way for so long. Or, maybe not. Some Black Americans may not even consider this question, in that is should not even be posed because, it's either the Black man's fault or the Black woman's fault. But my answer would be that; [1] this started long ago before Colonization and, [2] Well, it depends on from what basis; Matriarchal system or Patriarchal? I feel we need to deal with that kind of history otherwise, we will only repeat history. Finally, I think there should be accountability on both sides. Oh yeah! We need to heal. This really hurts, but the issue that bothers me the most is that we need to heal and until we address other issues that actually help us heal, we won't. WHAT ARE THE 'OTHER' ISSUES? I ask. Well, I feel like we want to ignore how Black women were actually victimized too, by Black men long before the Slave Trade too. And, we need to address this government on the issue that most of the slaves were CHILDREN! And, then too, there is our formal educational system... @Pioneer1 Thank you for this statement. I agree.
  12. Of whom are you directing this comment? When you say 'us'-- you are speaking in reference to me and my husband-- our hair type. My husband is a Full Native American and that is the purpose of this article; to address this very topic of what you have stated. It's not about 'PERPETUATING A RACIST MYTH', however, this is about how Native Americans in my family, and my experiences of them who have PERPETUATED A RACIST MYTH long before even White Europeans became involved. You need to go back and read about HIAWATHA and his wife MINIHAHA and the comb!!! Oh no! So NOT true!!! Again, long before this European Colonial Movement, Native Americans were extremely divided on issues of COLORISM and issues like 'GOOD HAIR'. As I stated in the article, the COMB TEST was explained to me by his grandmother, a full blooded Native American woman. You need to do some research. You need to got back before the Europeans came with this movement in order to address me, as an African American descendant of slave, one who was selected on the basis of HAIR TYPE. Maybe, you Native Americans who did not mix with us don't choose to deal with this subject, and think it is all well with your hair texture variation, but this is NOT so with the kind of Natives that did intermix with Black African Slaves. smh. We, AFrican Americans were selected on these basis of HAIR TYPE and I have both heritages, so if you are not of the Black African heritage and don't like this topic, you have that privilege, but you don't have any right to try and cencor me based on my experiences with both Native American and European attacks against my person.
  13. @Troy Yes, I agree. Well said. I do believe, that he wanted to help Black people in America, though, but just like that clip that @Kareem posted, he would have been viciously and constantly attacked by White American racist people if he did anything that made him seem like 'a civil rights' president. Just like Dyson said, Obama 'inadvertently made them uncomfortable, but he did not challenge them on certain issues. I don't thing though, that he did not have the courage though, however, he would have been attacked viciously, and he felt that. Also, I wonder if many Black Americans realize that Obama is HEBREW ISRAELITE? His father is from KENYA, and there are many tribes over there in Kenya and the Horn that are the Original Israelites. Some of what I write is in websites including Wikipedia and etc. Because my ancestor was stolen from that region, I have done a lot of research and I believe that Obama was pre-selected for this specific reason and therefore, I don't believe that Black Americans really know the whole issue with what has just transpired in this world with voting in a Hebrew Israelite/African president that legalized homosexuality. I think we are in for 'a calm before the storm' so-to-speak. Those African people over there are really divided on many issues over there.
  14. @Kareem Yes, so this is the problem! So many times, I see where the law is completely circumvented just to oppress people, especailly Black Americans. Thank you for sharing this information though. I did not know that about the 8th Amendment. And then, another issue that really bothers me about this story and so many others is that, she had to spend time being imprisoned. Just that kind of process is enough to destroy a person even if they are proven innocent.
  15. AAAAHHHHH! I LOVE CHERYL CROW! No you didn't!!! LOL. Man! That was so good! Such a release! Man! Thank you @Kareem @Maurice Thank you for posting. WHEW! WHEW! I LOVE THE BEATLES. Man! I could listend to 'Hey Jude' over and over and over... This has made my day!!! Lol! I ain't listening to no mo!--for now because I won't stop. I love CHIC and KC & the Sunshine Band. Man!
  16. Have you met someone smarter than youself? Oh yes! Just about everyday! How did you determine they were smarter than you, Well, I guess I would have to think about one example, and my answer would be that, I just listened to what was said from the person and realized that they brought something new to my psyche; they added a dimension to my life. and how did you feel? Rich. It made (makes) me feel rich and acknowledged; that someone would take the time out to share their life with me, if only for a moment. I love positive human interaction, even if it is just a brief exchange while walking about during my day, going to the market, or greeting someone at the check out counter. It's so rewarding for me.
  17. @Troy I was finally able to watch most of the video and it was really good. I liked it. I also didn't realize that Bill Cosby was degrading Black people to that great degree! I knew that he did though, but now, I have heard it more and more. I also agree with what Dyson said about accountability. I think he said that when Black people did not hold former president Obama accountable for his actions then, it kind of was a set up for the future leaders in how they would regard us.
  18. @Kareem I do remember the media coverage of this story a little and thank you for refresing my memory. This outline is so profound. I did not follow everything, but after I heard the negativity that came from the public, therefore, I became so upset that I refused to watch anymore reports. Now, I look at how they went after Former President Obama and, it is just as bad as I thought. Then, after they went after him in that fashion, it seems as if you can see and feel the laughter and mockery. They clearly showed that he was selected, NOT VOTED, but selected to be a puppet president. smh.
  19. Uh Oh, I'm in trouble. But, I certainly don't feel that 'Caucasians' have succeeded in conquering my spirit at all.
  20. @Pioneer1 I agree, but I also believe that, due to the exploitations of us Black Americans, by this system, UNITY will be impossible to obtain, as a whole. I understand about, 'putting our differences aside to have a collective voice' but, I do not agree. I could never agree to 'putting aside my difference on pedophilia' for a collective whole. never. @Pioneer1 I love your dream, but yeah, it would be poisoned while we exist under--UNDER--UNDER this system. They would define it, someway, somehow by doing many schemes, as a reservation. But, we need to do something though.
  21. @Kareem OMWORD!!! LOL. No. I didn't know that. No wonder I was insulted for making a comment on a topic she brought forth on another website. This Black man insulted me for making a comment on a thread that he started, and he is partial to homosexualism. LOL. I have been absent for a little, I have to play catch up today... @Kareem and @Pioneer1 Yeah, he rubs me the wrong way too. What!? Well, I have learned something new today. I didn't know this cliche 'ADOS' was actually attached to an organization! That's crazy. @Kareem Thank you for your statement here. This is the issue that I recognize as a distinct difference in many Black African Americans in their choices to date other 'races' of people. Some seem to have a motivation of hate; hating their other gender as a reason to justify themselves to date or mate with other kinds of people, while a few African Americans do not!
  22. @Maurice WHEW! Thank you for responding. LOL. Man! I jumped to a false conclusion.
  23. @Kareem WOW! I learned a lot! Very deep, and informative. Are you saying that Yvette Carnell is a liberal or, is she of that LBGT community? I will have to listen to the videos you posted later. Also, I didn't know that she and Moore developed the ADOS acrynym, because, I also used this acrynym myself before I heard that it was used by others.
  24. Well, @Maurice You should not feel this way. These subjects are tough, but a reality. This subject that I am responsing too has merit, and I would hope that you can understand and relate. This very subject was dealt with by White people too, even in the Roots production back when I was a child, it showed a slave mother walking her daughter up to the overseer. So, if you feel that I don't want you hear, you would be really wrong. At any rate, I wish you peace.
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