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But when the government ignores thousands upon thousands of years of certain groups of humans that have been targeted for their physical presence and oppressed, it leads to a continual oppressive existence that will only get worse. @Troy You expect White Supremacist systems to agree with you in that we humans are all 'one commodity'? They will not because, that would be impossible. But just because they use this natural process of categorizing and distinguishing certain cultures of humans for various reasons for harm does not help you if you think that we are all one commodity. That kind of thinking that you support won't help the kind of Black and Brown 'races' of people being suppressed by this type of evil. We need to accept the truth in that yes, we are all 'one human [race] people' but we have also been subdivided into many subgroups for various scientific and historical reasons. @Pioneer1 Thank you! But @Troy That would only be because their genetic makeup originates from one individual out of Africa and color is not the primary basis for classification of the humankind and you may not understand the data correctly due to the wrong focus on colorism. If certain 'black people' do not have the same amount of DNA presence as a European based on some data, it does not mean that the Europeans have more 'African DNA' than 'a Black person' at all, but it only means the modern worlds form of 'social construct' has presented a distortion of scientific interpretation. Oh no! This is NOT common knowledge @Troy. The subject of the reality of who the Original Egyptians and Semites were in the ancient days has been a huge distortion! That is what the thread has focused on. It is so crucial that the world governments are having to address it. Many 'Black' people today such as yourself do not believe White Supremacy, racism, and Colorism existed in ancient times and this too, becomes a part of the global confusion with regards to the original Egyptians and the Original Semites. You say we are all 'one human race' but if you understand ancient history, you would understand why even today, this subject is important to discuss. The ancient Egyptians were a distinct type of 'Black' people a part from other kinds of humans in the world at that time. And, as @Tazarah wrote, their phenotype becomes a hallmark that identifies them even a part from other kinds of ancient 'Black' humans!

@Troy For any adequate government all over this world to not classify human based on some sort if distinguishable character would result in a failed system. They cannot ignore or erase the history of humankind by just defining us as 'one human race'! Based on all of the evils and good of the historical past, Governments that are functional cannot simply ignore classification. Absolutely not. However, Phenotype must be considered hand-in-hand with Genotype. The reality of ones phenotype is vital in all manner of scientific classification. In many cases scientist cannot confirm anything without considering the phenotype. For example, when scientist consider many diseases, in many cases they must regard the phenotypic characteristic of a person exhibiting certain appearances in order to expediently determine the outcome of a particular disease! Thus by doing this, they can save a person's life! They can deal with the problem correctly and make interventions on certain levels to improve a persons quality of life. Now, I can give specific examples but I would need to look at data in order to be specific though. But again, a person's phenotype is a scientific concept iand it is vital to regard for purposes of classification. No, not at first. All of those categories are a later development after the initial formation of early humankind when they formed their communities. LOL. Not true at all! But the term 'racial category' would not be correct either. Not true at all! Genetics is absolutely based on categorizing humans based on 'groups' and how humans formed early communities and shared common genetic traits. To define 'An original person of AFrican descent' is definitely finite in certain genetic and scientific terms. From that ORIGINAL basis, sure there are so many other kinds of people that formed 'African cultures' but they would all be based on the original genetic and scientific definition of an ORIGINAL AFRICAN!

She is gone but not forgotten. Wow! This is news for me. May she rest in peace.

Oh! But this is truth! There is a scientific distinction based on many levels of research, especially the DNA findings. Fossils remain and can be studied today! @Stefan Oh Wow! @Tazarah I think this quote was meant for me! Thank again! i like how this point was stressed, "while acknowledging the scientific evidence for the physical diversity of Africans." Yes, I agree in that there are physical diversities of Africans and so, it would be crucial to go back into history and better define just who the original Egyptians were in the past! @Troy I totally disagree! As far as the word 'race' and 'racial', I understand this to be a confusion, but the phenotype of people are extremely important and helps when compared to the genotype of people! Why should scientist not use phenotype to distinguish people just because White Supremacist use this as a means to justify their supremacist beliefs? Yes, that kind of belief is flawed logic but, just as there are distinct kinds of Europeans, there are distinct kinds of Africans, there are distinct kinds of Asians today, and etc., these distinctions are based on scientific classifications as well as cultural distinctions, etc. Over the course of thousands of years, humans have developed distinct cultures and nations, and communities, etc, and these developments have been distinguishable based on reproductive basis as well! @Troy to say that we are all 'one human race' is not enough when we have to refer certain data! There needs to be other kinds of rhetoric to distinguish people in the past and present. When you go to fill out paperwork for jobs and etc. at times, it is important to identify based on your cultural, ethnic, or 'racial' category. It is evil for people to believe they are more superior because they are a certain color or etc. but that should not stop the government from distinguishing people based on a scientific basis. I am not one that believes in Colorism on any level, but we need to address this issue and not deter from it just because of White Supremacist.

LOL! I guess men see other things! @Pioneer1 Get out!

Ahhh! So this is the meaning of 'metaphysics'-- beyond physics. Thanks!

My husband sometimes thinks that I am well, 'special' LOL because I my testimony however, he says that he believes because of it. I wrote about an experience I had that actually involved him at a time that he thought I was well, 'special' LOL and so, perhaps I will find it and share it more completely to further explain what I mean by how the Holy Spirit will confirm his presence. But this is briefly what I shared: Some years back, I had a vision that came to me 'as a flash of light', however a full statement was relayed to me. It was a voice, a man's voice. I immediately turned to my husband who had just came from work and he was sitting on the edge of the bed. I told him that was just told that he would be 'fired' [terminated] from his job! I was told the exact day; --At this time--a week from that day, Friday. I was told to go immediately to Mr. Bob. The voice said to me "Go to Mr. Bob, he's one of mine'. At this time, my husband had no job issues. My husband looked at me with disbelief and immediately laid back, and fell fast asleep; snoring. He'd just come home from working a night shift; 3rd shift. So, I decided to do just what I was told. I got up from the table, got in my car and drove about 20 minutes to a campground to speak to Mr. Bob, the park ranger in a park in Virginia. Two years prior, we met him and stayed at this campground for a few weeks. I walked into the main office and there he stood. After only a few minutes, I asked him if we could come back and stay at the campground if we needed to do so and he said absolutely. Then I left the campground and went to the social service department and filled out a form to see if I could get approved for welfare assistance. Then I went back home and was gone about two hours and my husband was still asleep. Long story short; My husband walked in that next week Friday and looked shocked. He said he was let go! LOL! DANG! He worked at that job for 4 years! He was a Chemist. He had never had any write ups until that week. The supervisor said that he was fired because he did not have a phone. About two weeks prior to this, our phone was cut off and so, they called him to come in to do overtime, and he missed the call. They said that he could not have the job without a phone. They said his job was dependent upon him having a phone. Okay! Bull shit! . . . A few weeks later, they apologized after we filed, but the damage was done. They re-hired him, but by that time, we had been put through the 'ringer' so-to-speak. Anyway, we moved to the campground for a few weeks and then moved into a house that his father repaired. A few years later, Mr. Bob died and I didn't realize it at the time, but I should have told him about my vision. I did not think to tell him. But at any rate, that spiritual experience that I had was confirmed! I have the application that I filled out at social services, etc. LOL. There is more to this story, but that is the gist of it.

This interview, with Bernard Carr, Mathematician and Astronomer of the University of London, I found to be very interesting. In fact, I listened to it over and over again due to some of the concepts that he addressed, I found to be hard to grasp initially. The question he responded to is 'Can Science and Religion be harmonized'? Carr says that he does not address the question of whether or not God exist, he rather addresses the issue of people having some sort of religious experience and/or mystical experience and, he believes that yes, this does happen and these types of spiritual and religious experiences that many people have gives us a glimpse of some form of reality. Well I for one, absolutely believe that religion is nothing if it can not be supported by some form of science. I absolutely believe that the Bible should be supported by some form of scientific data. And I also believe that perhaps some people do not believe in a spiritual experience with God because they may not have not had one. Like Carr said, the word 'religion' is a vague term, and I personally do not understand the whole meaning of that word. I just know that I have had a spiritual relationship with God and as the Bible says, it was confirmed. If you have a spiritual or religious experience, it will be confirmed in a physical sense. There is a reality to it. There is a purpose. And, one prophet especially intrigues me, the prophet Daniel, and I hope to write about and give a deep insight to his ancient writings one day: . . . bring certain of the children of Israel, of the king's seed, and of the princes; Children in whom was no blemish, but well favoured, and skilful in all wisdom, and cunning in knowledge, and understanding science, . . . that they might teach the learning and the tongue of the Chaldeans. DANIEL 1: 1-4. Yes, this would be one reason why I apply my science background to the ancient scriptures. I believe that science is a crucial aspect of understanding the past.

That was crazy! I've never heard of him probably because I don't watch boxing that much. Racism is so evil and should never be the motivation for this sport. Something is wrong with this human race. Anyway, he was powerfully built and very handsome. A beautiful man. What a gorgeous face. It is so incredible that he had that much boldness and confidence especially during those times.

Okay! LOL. I have no comment about @Pioneer1's statement at this point because I don't know how to comment. However, that person came on here and this is a forum that highlights 'Black' contributions to humanity and his remarks should be sanctioned. Nevertheless, I respect your decision. And also, scientifically speaking, I understand you comment about "that does not make them any less human" and I agree.

Oh Wow!

@Troy Why don't you ban this person? At any rate-- on the subject of being 'HUMAN'-- @Troy Do you see, this fits my breakdown on the subject of Neanderthal hybrids amongst the human race! All modern mankind stems from ONE-- okay-- JUST ONE AFRICAN MALE INDIVIDUAL!!! so therefore, even Trump stems from an African malefactor! Neanderthal hybrids today still exist and their DNA marks are still present of which is the origin of White Supremacy and Colorism. Neanderthals and their hybrids will never be MODERN HUMAN...

lol! Rewriting history!? How about dealing with the terms, as is--and dating these terms in order to highlight hidden truths! When hidden history resurfaces, oh yes, some people of African descent will find out that they are indeed the lost tribes of Israel. Oh yes, many African Americans were a part of the Biblical prophesy about the Slave Ship Era outlined all throughout the Bible.

Yeah but you did pretty good @Delano! WOW This stuff going on in the WH is crazy!

Hi Joan WOW! Congrats!!! I sure hope you stay here! I too am a born again Christian and for many years. I love researching WORLD TRUTH and that is what Jesus Christ is all about--He is the truth, the way and the light! He came to save the world. I love that you are searching the scriptures for the presence of hidden history when it comes to the 'Black' presence in the world and i the ancient Biblical world! LOL! You know I think that was me! I wrote and shared research on Sorghatani, the Keraite woman! I think I did write about her about 2 years ago. Oh yes, and I have much more on that score!

I am looking forward to reading about your experiences there. @Troy

I'm really busy right now but I can't wait to see videos you posted! @Pioneer1

Thank you so much @Stefan!

Yes. So true.

WOW! That was crazy awesome! Get out! I'm hooked! Do you think he will relocate permanently to live in Kigali or somewhere else in Africa?

I would agree. Yes. interesting. He was from Cyrene? I think I remember. Ah! The color Black! Well, as you wrote earlier about the viewpoint of God, the Creator. I don't think the Bible focuses on COLOR as being primary, but rather humanity as a whole. So, I think that because COLOR is not a primary description of people, there are other terms that need to go along with people's description in the Bible based on their actual skin color. I do believe that there are BLACK people in the Bible, but I think other terms like Ham, AbraHAM, Ethiopian, Cyrene, Cush, etc. should be used in conjunction with color as a description for people described in ancient scripture . So to respond to the question about other 'folks who are Black and who are Bible figures'; yes; how about Seth, just to name another.

Wow! @Troy You are not in Florida anymore!? Do you miss being in Florida?

Yes. me too! @Pioneer1 Thank you! @Stefan

Wow!

Thank you. He's still going through it, but we are getting a lot of support. Thank you again. How so? How am I tryin to bolster my own race? I already commented in that I absolutely agree that the Bible and the Creator does not view skin color as being significant. But to say that the Bible roundly IGNORES the intense human violence meted out on humanity based on skin color would be ridiculous. To say that the Creator roundly IGNORES White Supremacy and Colorism as it was a major factor used against humanity would be crazy. The Bible specifically highlighted COLORISM as the conflict that occurred with MOSES and his sister MIRIAM over Moses' choice to marry Zipporah, a Cushitic, Ethiopian woman. The Bible soundly deals with White Supremacy & Colorism @Stefan I again, would absolutely agree this issue means zero to the Creator, but He directly deals with it as it means everything to certain systems that have set up their system on this basis. It should still be regarded to contrast and compare the other translations. I definitely see errors in other translations. Oh yes! Absolutely! Because it is HISTORY an area of study based on scientific gathering and collection of ancient depictions that can be contrasted with script and used on the scholarly world. NO, I did not get a Bachelor's of SCIENCE degree in history or Art History, but they are two very significant areas of study in major colleges all over the world. Egyptologist are very important and some of their research agrees with the Bible. @Stefan It should not matter if the museum curators are White or other, but it should matter if scholars confirm ancient historical facts. Because of he kind of White Supremacy and Colorism that did exist, it should be vital that we today understand history as it really happened. This is true! History does reveal that the ancient Egyptian Pharaohs owned and mistreated slaves, and no matter if ancient people are associated with certain humans today or not, we need to know history and how and why these systems were allowed to form and set up slavery, etc. No way. As far as 'Race' let me paraphrase what Jesus said in St. Matthew... 'Many of the children of the kingdom will be in outer darkness, weeping and gnashing at teeth...'. The Chosen 'Seed' of God, the ancient Israelites suffered under awful systems, but they too have to be proven. Yes, I would agree with you in that Jesus came to save 'the world' and John 3:16 is the scripture that backs up what you say.