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Thank you!!! That movie, The Temptations, is like--- One of my favorite movies of all times!!! I love that song!

@Troy ROFL I was trying to do just that... but Uh.... this time, @Pioneer1 got me.

@Pioneer1 What!? okay. Tecnically, when you say 'descendants of Caucasians'-- being the origin of Caucasians-- I say yes. But your definition of Caucasians is the problem. @Mel Hopkins Thank you! @Pioneer1 Interesting! You know, I think it is a mixture of both! I agree in what @Mel Hopkins is saying though, in that it is a matter of survival and to some extent has nothing to do with Matriarchy. However, the system you describe was started during slaver times and still is exploited today.

LOL. I agree!

@Pioneer1 If you give 'people' more credit than you do the Creator, you will continue to be confused. You claim the Bible is drafted by ? White people? This would be a serious problem even in regards to this topic. You give White people too much credit for over powering Black people. The earliest of script is based on Black people, but again, if you cannot grasp this point, then our debate becomes a confusion. Yes, I say that when the White governments formed, they did manipulate script, the script of KEMET. They did change the dates and times and the only way to get back to the truth is through methodology. One way to understand how script and dates and times have been changed is to base this on science and especially THE SOLOR SYSTEM. @Pioneer1 I do understand this too. But no, the GREAT WALL OF CHINA was not built between 3000 and 4000 BC. That is ridiculous. You are not considering any form of historical timing.

Me too. I do believe that over a long period of time, there are many stories that have been fused together. @Mel Hopkins -- You know, I sometimes am looking over my shoulder for someone to rebuke me when this subject comes up because I know the tension it brought up back in the day of Constantine. There are schisms and then there are other kinds of differences, but these people wanted to fight over a schism. Nevertheless, I believe that many people did not have script back in those days and this may have been part of the probome. Jesus is quoted to have said "My father" many times, and then he also said, "I and he are one"; something like that. IMO, that is no different than me sending out my offspring to represent me, and could be viewed in various ways. Oh Wow! Thank you for the interpretation. I thought it also meant 'Theodore'? @Troy This film was about an hour! But, I watched it and feel that it needs to be updated for several reasons. For one example, Browder mentions John Henry Clark, Ivan Van Sertima and Dr. Hibbard and they completely disagree on many topics brought up in this film. The late Ivan VAn Sertima brought out that NEFERTITI is not Black at all. And my research supports him. Even though many AFrica people have been deceived to believe otherwise, she was as her name includes, HITTITE [i.e. W-HITE]. Any Art History major will show that this film has posted images of statues that do not at all reflect the subject at hand. For instance the bust in GErmany of Nefertiti HAD NO COMPLETE HEAD. This head was fashioned in moder times. So the fuss about this is so off point. However, numerous statues, NAKED STATUES of Nefertiti were found in many places that reflect her fertility cult. Regarding the HOLY TRINITY that I hear a lot, the statue presented was made over a thousand years before this HOLY TRINITY concept came about. but the very story in that THE SON ATTACKS THE FATHER is the clue in that this has nothing to do with the HOLY TRINITY. The origin of the ancient TRIAD CONFLICT stems from CAIN and SETH and that is why the father is called EVIL SET. The Cainites and the Sethites struggled for a long time. And, the Cainites were the more dominant and oppressed the Sethites in the SOUTHWORLD. Browder speaks about NARMER being NUBIAN. No. Narmer was part Nubian. He was an eastern Cainite man, a Black man, that came up from Upper Egypt and fought against the Asiatics in Lower Egypt [north]. But he later married a Khety woman and this conflict started all over again until the FIRST SETH DYNASTY-- the 4TH DYNASTY formed. Until the Seth Dynasty, the city-civilization was defined as A DUAL SYSTEM and that is part of the meaning of the two-pylon gate construction. But the Cainites were more dominant. The system was known all over the world later by this standard that begin with being known as ENOCH-ENOCH. But then, the Seth-Theban kings began to marry Eastern women too and then they became oppressed all over again... So, this is part of how the HOLY TRINITY was viewed in ancient times, based on my research, but more importantly, the 'virgin aspect' was added; it is a fabrication. The Seth world knew that 'EMNITY' [ie. Jesu] would come soon, and although the adversary would 'bruise his heel', however, 'emnity' [IE HOSTILITY] would bruise his HEAD [ie the ROMAN EMPIRE--GOVERNMENT]. So this HOLY TRINITY story was well know way back when and was the basis for BLACK-VS-BLACK hostility and White Supremacist Exploitation. The problem with many of these documentaries put out by AFrican type people is that they completely omit the true aspect in that there were Wite people in ancient Egypt and, these kinds of Black scholars continue to omit the part of ancient Black people who welcomed in these White people and obsessed over them. Today, Black people want to put the blame solely on White people infiltration of ancient Egypt and this is wrong. And, the aspect of 'EVIL SETH' actually stems from a Black woman who was by far, NOT A VIRGIN, and who decieved her Black husband, A SETH MAN and whose son, she bore, became a major aspect of the ancient method of how White Supremacy became established in ancient Egypt. So, the Heru or HORUS, represents the story of Noah and how his wife decieved him and gave birth to the Canaanites and this also ties into the RIDDLE OF THE SPHINX of which, was another false interpretation in this film. The massive project to uncover the sphinx during the 18th Dynasty of the Thutmosis was because Thutmosis IV married a WHITE WOMAN, Mitemwiya and for many past thousands of years, there was a conflict over this SPHINX in Egypt with regards to the Northworld people and the Southworld people [Seth world people]. [15] And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. GENESIS 3:15.

That is crazy! LOL. I won't be downloading instagram any time soon.

That is so interesting in that the barber that was applying the wig was bald, but still, it doesn't matter. If people feel good for adding hair enhancements, then it is okay. I've done some deeper research on 'balding' and feel that today, society does not view this blessing in the proper way, and therefore, some men develop some kind of insecurity.

Wow! Well, I wonder now, just what the specific statement used to justify kicking him off. But. I don't spend hardly any time on Facebook because I don't want to get drawn into it. Or maybe fear?

@Troy Yes, I understand! I tried though, to pick the ones I felt were natural, however, I do question one or two that I posted. But, based on my own hair, I really believe that the first set of pics I posted were really natural. Aside from this issue though, I believe that the HAIR CHART posted on the internet is very important to share because it is definitely wrong. I wonder who put that out? I know it could not have been from a reliable source, because I was trained on this subject in a lab and know for a certainty that this chart is wrong. Nevertheless, it is the one that seemingly African AMericans are using. That is crazy. Yeah, vanity I guess. This is true for Black women, White women, Asian women and etc., I guess. I think a lot of money is spent on hair products and hair styling. Even though it's been over 30 years since I've been to a beauty salon, I would go though, if I had the money because I remember how it felt to have my hair washed and massaged.

Women with Their Own Naturally Abundant Type 4C Hair— Understanding True African Kinky Hair That Sister.com Did you know that not all Afro hair is the same? Depending on the look, feel and texture, there are various groups your hair can fall into. We as black women generally have what is called type 4 hair. This is kinky hair, rather than it being straight or with light curls. https://www.thatsister.com/what-are-4a-4b-and-4c-hair-types-answers-and-picture-examples-inside/ Okay, so as I touched upon this subject in another post in that, this statement and many other definitions about Black African ‘Kinky’ Hair byway of Black people happens to be misleading, based on my research. More specifically, the definitions of the different TYPE 4 Hair types seem to be wrong, with the exception of the 4C Hair Type. And perhaps this following diagram may help to better explain my query: In this diagram, both 4A and 4C look ‘curly’ with only 4C being smaller curls, but the actual depiction of 4B would be the closest depiction what A KINKY HAIR STRAND would look like under a microscope. So, in essence, this diagram floating around on the internet seems to be wrong and the 4B strand should probably be 4C. In a particular video published by, Craving Curly Kinks, September 12, 2018, titled, Are you Type 4c or Type 4b? Showing The Difference, two young children were featured to demonstrate the difference between 4B and 4C and the Black woman narrator attempted to explain that 4C HAIR knots at the end but 4B HAIR does not. She also stated that 4B HAIR draws up more than 4C HAIR when it becomes wet with water, however, both of these statements are misleading. In the initial reference by ‘That Sister.com’, another confusing statement was made: What is Type 4 Afro Hair (Kinky)? Type 4 hair is the hair type that most black women have. This kind of hair is kinky, extremely wiry, has tight coils and is very fragile. https://www.thatsister.com/what-are-4a-4b-and-4c-hair-types-answers-and-picture-examples-inside/ Why the Natural Hair Type Chart is Flawed and Misleading! Well, I guess in terms of people of African descent in the western part of the globe, the term ‘Black’ could apply generally, but in the east world, there are many Black Aboriginal people in Australia and in the Fiji Islands and more, that also express straight-type hair and loose curly hair and have intermixed with African people that have migrated to this world and show combination hair types as well. However, in terms of Type 4 Afro Hair meaning ‘Kinky’, the reference above used the term ‘tight coils’, but this would be wrong. If a person’s natural hair expresses both a ‘kinky texture’ and ‘tight coils’ then, that would mean they have COMBINATION HAIR. Wet Kinky Hair shrinks when wet and some will show a wavy or curly pattern but eventually the hair will become kinky in its natural state. All Kinky Hair goes through ‘A PROCESS OF NAPPING’ not coiling and, this would be the distinction. Wooly Hair, or bushy, or kinky, ‘cushy’, ‘extreme fuzzy’ [i.e. Fez], ‘frizzly’, … or nappy hair does not coil, and if kinky hair does ‘coil’ then, that would mean it would not be kinky but may also show a ‘combination hair type’. For this reason, too, the 4A Hair type definition would actually be a contradiction too. It only looks like smaller curls [i.e. coils] apart from the Curly Hair Type Class 3C and therefore denser. So, all in all, with respect to the TYPE 4 HAIR TYPES; 4A should simply be 3D in the curly hair type because it would just be smaller coils. So, some 4 TYPES described in many videos should actually be perhaps listed as a combination hair type for a kinky/curly hair texture becomes obvious. This would be why in many videos, they show Black women being confused on how to define their own hair type by the definitions offered on the internet. Think about the early ‘Jerry Curls’ in that African people can have chemical curls but without the activation cream, the hair still shows that it still naps! But White people, Asiatic-typed people and many Black people and etc. can have very small curly hair too, but unless they are obviously intermixed with a recent Black African parent or perhaps grandparent with nappy hair then, their hair will not nap: Combination—Kinky/Curly Combination—Kinky/Curly/Wavy I would class this hair texture as 3C/4A Curly, based on the given Hair Chart on internet Also omitted from these definitions would be that some Black African people can have combination ‘straight-type hair’ or ‘wavy-type hair’ and kinky!—with no curls! This combination wavy/kinky [i.e. 2B/4C] hair type can be seen in some early indigenous peoples’ depictions as well. So therefore, the 4C HAIR TYPE [incorrectly shown as 4B] would actually be the only ‘kinky hair type’ shown by these internet diagrams. And so, it would be this type of ‘JAGGERED HAIR STRAND’ [ZIGZAG Hair Strand pattern] that should be divided into various kinds of kinky hair types and thus distinguished based upon LOOSER ZIGZAG versus TIGHTER ZIGZAG STRAND PATTERNS, and also kinky/curly or kinky/wavy combination hair types and more. Therefore, 4A should not be included as ‘a kinky type’ because it has no kinky texture. Again, kinky 4C hair types should thus define how tightly or loosely the hair strand appears ‘in an angle’, and how tight the hair kinks or naps. The woman in the video mentioned above, Crazy Curly Kinks, used the word ‘knot’ at the end of the 4C hair, however, this was actually the process of 4C hair napping and of which the other child’s hair would do also to a varied degree as it becomes dryer. It would be this ‘zigzag’ strand pattern that actually causes African hair to become kinky or nap! However, a more scientific term for this process of napping the hair would also be ‘LOCKING’ and so, the zigzag hair strands not only ‘lock’ but ‘interlock’. However, in terms of ‘NAP’ this would also be a term used, even in ancient times, with regards to the different degrees of ‘NAPPING A RUG’ and so, the term ‘RUG’ [i.e. SERUG, REGGAE (REGI—KING), RAG DOLLS, RAGGEDY ANN & BLACK MAMMY BELOVED BELINDA, RAG HEAD… RAG TIME] would be yet another major term used in ancient Iran [i.e. Persia] and beyond to describe the Black African-type presence in the land and in their association with the massive trade and skill of Persian Rug making. Some of these terms also became connected to mugs or cups in ancient times. In fact, this term ‘RUG’ and even the term ‘NAPPY’ became derogatory in some respects as it was passed down through time but nevertheless, the actual distinction of Black African-typed wooly hair has been clearly defined in ancient times but today, this distinction has not been clarified even amongst Black African people. Howbeit, the importance of getting a better understanding on the true nature of Black African Wooly, Bushy, Kinky… hair should not be downplayed because it has been a direct correlation to how Black African-typed people have been identified and oppressed. Raggedy Ann Further characters such as Beloved Belindy, a black mammy doll, were featured as dolls and characters in books. [1][2][3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raggedy_Ann VINTAGE BELOVED BELINDA $300.00 Ebay BLACK ANN & ANDY~ Primitive Folk Art – PICCLICKIMG.com http://www.trinachow.com/blog/images/2007/07_07/belindy2.jpg Original BELOVED BELINDA, RAGGEDY ANDY & RAGGEDY ANN $995.00--SOLD

@Delano Okay! well, that is what I was thinking!

@Pioneer1 THIS IS MY PASSION!!! You can nail it down precisely. This is the benefit of scholarship, civilizations, a classroom environment and etc. Education may be about money for some people, but it is vital. The scientist in this American government have published repeatedly about this topic. America does NOT deny that the dates and times have been deliberately manipulated in past times, by early western empire government. However, scientist can mark ancient phenomena with precision byway of various methods due to our SOLOR SYSTEM. You are absolutely WRONG!!! The Old Testaments is solely based upon precsion and accuracy with respect to the SOLAR SYSTEM and for this reason, and more, dates and times of many things that have happened in the past can be confirmed as it was written down in more than one civilization. Oh yes they are! You have been misled! Although this concept of 'B.C.' and 'BCE' and 'AD' and etc. have been altered, scientist have dealt with this subject precisely. That is not my logic, but yours. Ancient governments like the Persians, the Egyptians, the Romans and etc. are confirm many historical events with respect to dates and times. Again, this makes no sense. Caucasian people could never have been confined in Central Asia for 2000 years! 2000 years is to massive of a time span to generalize as you are doing. The photograph you posted was not during these ancient times. It is a PHOTOGRAPH!!! How many civilizations rose and fell during 4000 BC to 3000 BC!? Many! How many scholarly terms are used to define specific events that agree with secular scholars and the Bible? Many. @Pioneer1 In respect to CAUCASIANS and their intermixing with European women, I understand what you are saying, but you are generalizing too much, and therefore, it makes no sense if it can not be put with in an historical time frame. And you mentioned THE GREAT WALL OF CHINA being built by the CHINESE!? THE GREAT WALL OF CHINA was built around 200 BC and as far as your comment about the East Indians, I don't understand. 200 BC-- Abour 200 years before the Roman Empire set up, this massive wall was constructed to deal with the HSIUNG-NU----NEGROES!!!! The Hsiung Nu Empire developed from nomads in the far northeast world and Siberia and thereabouts. These HUNS would interact with the Chinese and they ere dominant. This is why the Great Wall was built.

My mind is thinking about something... but I am probably way off target

@Mel Hopkins Yes, it is interesting! I have been thinking about this all day, off and on and finally, I completely made a correlation to what you said about your grandmother's rendition and how someone can do this type of dance keeping a bottle between their knees. It took me awhile to think...until it hit me!!! In college, a professional dancer from the Alvin Haley school came to teach us the 'African Boot Dance' for a play production of 'Raisin in the Sun' and so, I auditioned and made the dance team! And, I came to realize this aspect of the dance! wow! I don't believe that I could do that well, but I can absolutely see someone doing this Buck dancing well enough to keep a bottle between the knees. The whole time the dance is done, yes!!!--your knees are pretty much parallel! The lead dancer would shout KEEYAH! and then we would go into another dance pattern and the drums would change rhythm throughout the dance. I really loved doing that dance and being apart of the play. Years later, I couldn't believe it but, I saw 'Mr. Rodgers' on Mr Rodgers Neighborhood do the South African Boot Dance. Man! I was amazed! He was all into the dance and he was serious. Then, I saw a documentary and WOW, I saw the South African workers come out of the industrial building and they had on their work boots and Man!!! It was unreal... Yes, thank you! So, I looked back over the first post and now, I am wondering about something in that it may be before the Colonial times as well as being incorporated into the slave times. Until you started this thread, I never considered that some things we do today may have already been brought over here from AFrica and we may not realize it. I am thinking about this-- YAMS! I remember reading about the major Yam Festivals held in South Africa and I read about how many of these people were brought over here as slaves, but now, I am thinking that many of these Africans were already over here in America, way before slavery times! Many of them were 'Native Americans' way before many more of their kind came byway of slavery. Today, we eat YAMS and it is a major part of our Soul Food dinner and for New Years and etc.! @Pioneer1 Thank you.

@Cynique You say that sheeps wool, which occurs in nature, is not beautiful until it is processed and dyed into fabric, but the slick glossy coat of a black panther that occurs in nature is beartiful and I suppose, by your belief, does not need to be processed, and you say that this is not brainwashing. In a way, I agree in that it is not brainwashing, in a sense, if Black AFrican people who are born with, what you term as "dense, drab-colored exploding hair" , but that in some occasions, it may just be an inferiority-superiority complex. Some people born with nappy hair may come to hate their hair unless they straighten it due to brainwashing too though. But, yes, I do see that when it comes to WOOLY BLACK HAIR "No where in nature is there a growth that is comparable to wooly black hair' other than SHEEP'S WOOL!!! I do wonder about the extinct wooly mammoth too though. @Pioneer1 Yes, conditioned and brainwashed. I don't know about this approach. I seen many people in the 70s embrace natural hairstyles but have left off. I am thinking that maybe, it is more important to understand the truth about why we have been conditioned and brainwashed to see African hair as being 'Bad Hair' nowadays.

@Troy Yeah! the company designed the wig after her creation and now pays her to advertise the wigs they make that was inspired by her! One wig sales for $439.00! I can't afford that, but I wish I could. She makes a lot of money because companies contact her and send her products that she will show on her channel. For example, she was sent a bunch of bathing suits and she modeled them for a company. And, she was paid to be on the cover of ELLE Magazine and so much more. Therefore, she does this fulltime. I just found out about her, but she is very popular. LOL. well, I heard that Chris Rock was sued by somebody because they felt that he stoled their idea. But, anyway, I give him credit because before he did his videos, there were absolutely no kinky hair weaves 'extensions' and hair pieces in stores, but after he did his video, now they are in every store. @Pioneer1 I wish I could sport an afro like that!!!! Beautiful! My hair won't stay in place for a rounded fro as this model. @Cynique I guess you are, by far, not the only person that feels they have been brainwashed to think that afros were attractive. But for what it's worth, I thought that you looked beautiful in your picture with the afro.

@Pioneer1 This makes no sense unless you can at least put a date to it. When do you believe this happened and from where were these Black soldiers before they were, as you say, sent to the Caucasus? The date for this scripture was during the 3000s BC, whether it is believed to be mythological or not, and during this time period, all historical and confirmed publications attest to this being known by many terms based on the kind of cultures that did exist during these time periods.

@Pioneer1 Isn't this pretty much what @Delano said too? -- Cultural whoredom. Interesting.

@Delano LOL! Now, that caught me off guard! WHEW! Hilarious. Okay, you got me there. Yes, so it seems, I am one tracked!!--in my mind. I'm thinking from the perspective of the slave yard system. So now, I am trying to think about just what kind of traditions, that can be something that actually has been passed on from Africa, specifically that is a part of us today... I will take a look back at your list! @Mel Hopkins WOW!!! I learned something new today! Thank you! Buck dancing looks like STEPPING to me. It looks like the South African Boot Dancers too.

DIY Afro Kinky Wig Chizi Duru Inspired Afro Wig, by HerGivenHair company When I consider about hair extensions, weaves and wigs, I wonder about other Black African American women and their choices based on availability. I have been natural for at least 30 years and ever so often, like now, have braided in hair extensions so that I don’t have to spend time styling my natural hair. But it has been a challenge for me to find kinky or nappy hair extensions. So therefore, in the past, I have manipulated curly hair extensions in a way to make them appear to be nappy. Thankfully, I have just found another video that features the social media Influencer, Ms. Chizi Duru, in how she also altered a curly wig and made it into a nappy wig. Because I love her videos on this subject, I watched more and fell in love with just about everything else she has posted on her channel. She has become so famous that she has been featured on high powered magazines such as ELLE and African magazines as well, and she has made money being paid to promote other industry products. CHIZI DURU The market and prices for synthetic hair products are low and reasonable for straight hair weaves and wigs. And, thanks to Chris Rock’s movement a few years back, there are now many Beauty Supply Stores that carry Kinky Hair Extensions with decent prices. Now that I am getting older and wonder about the possibility of hair thinning, I am now wondering about Afro Kinky wigs too though. When my hair is styled naturally, I like a big, full style and that takes a lot of time to style, so now I have been looking for another option in wigs and found that there are some, but there are some pit falls in this search. Not only are some wigs NOT really kinky, but the few out there on the market are priced very high! Chizi’s Afro Kinky Wig cost about $400.00! And, there are other kinky wigs that run about $200.00 and maybe lower on sale. But also, even when it comes to the kinky Hair Extensions, the subject of providing true kinky hair extensions becomes a challenge! One product called, ‘Mongolian Afro Kinky Hair’ seems like a ‘play on terms’. Another product on the market called, ‘Vietnamese kinky hair weaves’ seems like another trick phrase. I have noticed that many products are very misleading when it comes to propaganda regarding the market for Kinky Hair Extensions and Afro Kinky Wigs. It seems obvious to me that most of the hair extensions and wigs are not ‘kinky’ or ‘afro’ type hair at all, but curly. Even on the African-typed websites I find that the true definition of true kinky hair includes the definition of ‘curly’ and this would not be true at all. Although hair can have a combination of hair types, however, as a Scientist who has done research on this topic, it just so happens that kinky hair and curly hair are two distinct kinds of hair types. True Curly Hair does NOT nap and no matter how it can be manipulated to mimic kinky hair, that would be the key difference. Like straight hair, curly hair can tangle or frizz, but it cannot nap! Curly/kinky combination hair will nap. So therefore, even the definitions of Afro Kinky Hair Types put out on the web by Black African Americans and such like are actually wrong in the complete breakdown of the hair type 4 definitions. At any rate, I am happy though to see that at least, there are products on the market that do mimic Afro Kinky Hair! Furthermore, I wonder if these products had been on the market long ago, even before Chris Rock’s movement, would Black women want to have these kinds of enhancements. Even straight human hair has been used to mimic kinky hair and perhaps that would be what ‘Mongolian’ and ‘Vietnamese’ hair means! LOL. Nevertheless, human hair is very highly priced. Nevertheless, when it comes to hair enhancements, this has been going on for thousands of years and therefore, there will continue to be a huge market for this demand for now. Whether Black woman want straight hair enhancements or kinky hair enhancements, this subject will continue as it did since ancient times. The ancient women have been clearly depicted with wigs and braided extensions in several ancient scenes in the earliest of civilizations. Did these women wear straight hair wigs or kinky styled wigs? Did they wear hair enhancements to appear as White or Asiatic women or, did they wear these wigs as enhancements due to aging and hair thinning? Were the Black kings, prophets and pharaohs disdained about their Black women for wearing wigs and extensions? When I look at the detailed depictions of Joseph, the son of Jacob/Israel, sitting amongst the daughters of Israel styled with hair extensions, it becomes obvious that it was not a negative aspect or else, they would not have been depicted as such! When I see all of the Hebrew and Egyptian women with hair extensions sitting around Moses in ancient carvings, I also know that he did not view them negatively. And then, when I see all of the depictions of women with wigs and crochet hair extensions sitting amongst the earliest of Egyptian pharaohs, it also becomes evident that this was acceptable to the point that it became a part of the royal attire for certain queens. ‘Wait-a-minute! Did she just say she saw Joseph and Moses depicted in ancient times!!?’ But yes, based on my research, it would also be true though, that at one point ancient Black women did become obsessed with Asiatic women having ‘good hair’. However, the good thing today would be that NATURAL HAIRSTYLES are making a come-back! As for me, I love to see Black women style their hair straight, curly or naturally kinky styles no matter what kind of hair they are born to possess, but for the many of us born with 4C hair, we know that we have taken a negative hit for whatever reason. And therefore, it helps to see more of these styles featured and to see videos that highlight this subject. Even though I have been natural for years now, I have even butchered my natural hair too and therefore, love to find natural Afro Kinky Hair enhancements and tips on how to better care for my hair. I remember a few years back, I blew out my natural hair before I went to the airport to meet one of my sons and it was so funny to see his reaction when he saw me. This reaction of my son and that of other Black men makes me believe that yes, Black men do appreciate seeing Black women with natural hair more than straight hair styles, and so I believe too, that this would also be one main reason why natural hair has been so downplayed and hair relaxers were pushed in the market for years. While I sat at the airport waiting for my son, I saw several Black male employees walk pass me and stare at me. I noticed one man, walked passed me and then he walked back to get another and they both walked by me staring. Finally, they both came up to me and asked me if that was my real hair! LOL. Finally, I saw my son who, at first, walked past me, staring. But he kept walking because he did not realize it was me until I called him. Then, he came up smiling and saying that he did not recognize me because I had not worn my hair out in a while. My natural hair reaches past my shoulders when I find the time to blow it out. But then again, I butchered it many times doing this type of style. So, one time, I manipulated curly hair extensions to mimic my nappy hair and wrapped the pieces around small combs and stuck the pieces in amongst my hair and POW! It was awesome! The Black women at my job, kept coming around me and trying to figure out if my hair was fake or natural, LOL. So, I shared. And therefore, this would be why I think the videos of Chizi and more, may be helpful to others. Like me, Chizi had a shock experience in getting to love her natural hair. She said in one of her videos that her Nigerian father, cut her processed hair off! LOL. She’s a Daddy’s girl. Her honesty, I find, in her hair journey may be helpful to others. She looks stunning though, whether she has kinky hairstyles or braided hair, or whether she wears makeup or not, or whether she was thin as in her college days or fuller in size. Chizi actually has a lot of natural hair herself and very healthy hair. Chizi definitely shows many levels of herself and has gained many followers since she began her channel a few years back in 2011 and then became a sensation around 2015 as a Social Media Influencer. CHIZI on ELLE Magazine

Scary but true, IMO too! We do seem to influence the culture but cannot control the narrative. But @Delano then, does that mean, on the other hand, that it is not us, Black folk that are the cultural whores? Shouldn't this mean that other kinds of people who prey on us to define what they think our culture should be or how we should act as Black folk, the true cultural whores? @Mel Hopkins Awesome question! As I read you lists and got to 'Rap and Hip Hop', I had to pause, go back and re-read your first sentence because I had lost site of the fact that this is about AFrican Americans and not our African origins. What is 'Buck dancing'? In the past, I've done research on the true definition of 'culture' and still become confused. So now even, I may not completely understand. I am still in the learning process. However, I think that part of the definition of anyone's culture should also include their [1] genetic origins and [2] the beginning government that covers them as a people as well. Therefore, I feel that part of what defines African American culture should include our beginning African origins with direct respect to the Slave Ship Trade Era and the Colonial 'Christian' Movement. African Americans come from the Afican continent and were chosen out amongst other Africans based on certain identifiable genetic traits and they were forced to submit under the European Colonial 'Christian' system for hundreds of years prior to the Separation of Church [Christianity] & State on July 4, 1776. So the beginning African American culture initially developed from these origins and everything today, I believe, is based off of this when it comes to our presence even today. Our culture has been shaped by these beginnings. For example, our ancestors were given a certain type of food to eat and today, we may call it 'Soul Food' but this cultural aspect was based out of slavery, being forced to either eat what was given to us or die. So now, many of us keep the tradition and incorporated it in other ways too. But because there are African AMericans today that have no connection to these understandings, may not have this aspect or eat this kind of food and don't define themselves in this way, but nevertheless, this still would be part of our original culture. Some non-AFrican Americans who marry into our culture may or may not choose to nurture their kids and involve the other spouse to share in these cultural origins or traditions and then this may cause confusion too today. For example, non-African Americans like like Kim Kardashiah's children, may not ever connect to this history, unless she chooses to teach them or the father decides to teach it to his children when they are young enough to claim this sort of history. But then others may decide that it was a bad cultural aspect and choose not to teach certain cultural history. In this aspect, the definition of culture and cultural tradition becomes confusing to me.

@Troy and @Mel Hopkins This is the kind of post that makes me so happy that this forum exist. I never heard of Coachella! I had no idea about Beyonce's performance! I guess that's why former First Lady decided to plug it! I loved it! It brings back so many memories for me when I was in college. And, I had no idea about Kanye's performance too. Wow! It was awesome.

@Mel Hopkins Way to go!!! So, he tried to intimidate you. I hope you continue!

@Mel Hopkins That is news to me! But yes, I've check Sears too and they don't have Fashion Fair at their counter either. Oh yes. I'm so not understanding. But, I am reading and trying to gain some type of information and this thread is interesting.