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@Cynique Part of this is truth because it is science based. But as far as it being reversed, I believe that when children's souls are 'snatched from birth' meaning, they are molested, they can be conditioned to believe what anyone wants them to believe. As a Biology major who has studied animal behavior and concerning the higher creatures, BEFORE 2006 with the Senator Obama campaign, all of the science was that NO homosexual behaviors exist among animals with the exception of being put in captivity and even this was stated to be only rare cases in which the primates mimic behaviors. Now after the Obama Movement, the books are written as if male animals were walking down the aisle, one with a white wedding dress on and the other with a tuxedo--two homosexual male animals--getting married. Higher Animals do not bond homosexually so, it would be ridiculous to believe that Humans born BIOLOGICALLY male or female would be wired to believe that they should be the opposite gender. NO, this homosexual confusion begins with the intersexed Neanderthals who became apart of the modern Homonid world by deception. It is a great evil because it starts with the raping of children. PIONEER @Pioneer1 This is so on point. It really is the LAST trick of White Supremacy. Yeah, this is the very problem, but didn't Neely Fuller address this?

@Cynique No. I could have accepted them wholeheartedly had it not been for this bait and switched system that came in under false pretenses and then changing their laws after they accused the Native Americans of being 'gays' and 'steers' and 'queers' and etc. and needing to be massacred and such. I could have accepted them had it not been for what happened to Black children during slavery and their aggressive rapes. Cynique, not for me due to the personal stories that I have come across in which all of the Gays I hear about have been raped and/or molested when they were children. If someone is born intersexed and they choose to be whatever gender they want, I accept wholeheartedly, but when children are born biologically male or female and sexually molested then, I am enraged.

@Cynique LOL I agree. And, I do not want to be idolized and have no intention of idolizing any man. @Delano WOW! Thanks! Very informative link! https://www.thedailybeast.com/word-is-bond-an-ex-con-explains-the-5-percenters I've learned a lot today. From this article, it seems that this 5 Percenters group stems from prison!? That is kind of depressing too, in that all of this rhetoric comes from mostly Blacks who are stuck under the American prison system. They are stuck under the Slave Master, and all the while trying to come to terms with their existence.

Wow. I never knew this. Thanks. Who is Professor Grif!? @Troy As for me, I just want to be appreciated for the good that I do for our people, humanity, as a whole. I don't care for being idolized just because of my gender. @Cynique mentioned in another thread her position as 'an ICONOCLAST'; that's me too. I don't want to be idolized just because 'I am a Black Woman'; I want to earn my respect.

@Delano Thank Del! Wow! This a hot debate going on, and I have been wondering about some of these same questions! I have heard about 5 percenters and Clarence X and etc. but never could understand completely.

@Pioneer1 Yes! Thank you for this info. Go NicK! @Pioneer1 Yes, this is so disturbing and really anger me. I can't even put my anger into words when it comes to this. But, nevertheless, deep down inside, I know they won't win when it comes to Africa! Yes!!! There will be some countries in Africa that will be slow to block this issue, but then there are some countries that will continue to be defensive. I have a big, big, big problem with this HOMOSEXUAL/PEDOPHILIA law. You have no idea, how much it bothers me! This HOMOSEXUAL/PEDOPHILE law is completely aimed at our Black African children and this is the very basis of ALL OF MY RESEARCH!

It is so crazy how, after decades, this GAY ISSUE has now be aligned with Black Americans and human rights. I remember years ago hearing the argument of GAYS being aligned with BLACKS-- BLACKS & GAYS--I remember hearing a few Black people NOT liking this comparison. Now that GAY RIGHTS have become a POLITICAL issue, it is funny how now, it is BLACK PEOPLE that are being CORRECTED for speaking out against GAYS. IRONIC. Nevertheless, I now understand another whole issue too, that has been kept hidden from us in the educational system about the science of being born intersexed with the Y-DNA. I now understand why Whites have argued this point continually, in that some people are 'born gay', so, I now realize too, that this issue is not solely 'a policial correctness' but it is also 'a scientific correctness'; but the problem is that many Black people have been deprived of this aspect in our educational system. But more importantly, Black people are being railroaded too and tricked into accepting a crooked aspect of this 'political correctness'. If someone is BORN INTERSEXED, they are BORN WITH A Y-DNA or an SRY-GENE that only comes from a Y-DNA chromosome, therefore that is scientifically a MALE!!!--even if their phenotypically FEMALE; just as the Bible details. This is where Black people are being wronged with this 'political correctness'. But if a person is born without this INTERSEXED-Y-GENDER and is either a Biological Male or Female, that stems from the origin of the MODERN HOMINDIS--The African Race--and this is the underlying issue that is being kept out of this American 'political correctness' and therefore Black people are being miseducated into believing that 'to be GAY is a choice'---OH BUT NO!!! So if Jamie lee curtis wants to flaunt her sexuality, then why should Keven Hart be sensored for speaking about how he raises is children and not allowed to host the Oscars? I get it, in that he is in 'their arena' and he gets his money in a society and pays him to accept this GAY RIGHT MOVEMENT as being a normal human presence, but now after thinking about how this issue has come down throught the decades being aligned with BLACK CIVIL RIGHTS, I can also see how Black people are being exploited. INTERSEXED BEINGS can be born African too, but the percentage is much lower because it has been scientifically proven that this phenomenon does not originate with Black AFricans but the pre-modern hominids--Neanderthals. If an Intersexed person competes in the Olympics, 'HE' cannot compete as a woman no matter how feminine 'he' appears and no matter how low 'his' ANDROGEN LEVELS register because well, they usually win because of that little bit of 'Y' related hormone that woman do not have!!! This is the scientific basis of this system aligning GAYS with BLACK RIGHTS that is not being taught in our educational system.

@Cynique On point! NOw you cause me to think about a famous cook, Paula ? and it became known how she said something about Blacks and then she was completely attacked.

After I did some quick research on what he said, I know how I feel, but don't know how to respond about this issue. The word used against him is 'his homophobic tweet'; Well, that word 'HOMOPHOBIC' is used so much and sometimes I feel it is used as a method of intimidation. So, Kevin doesn't have a right to raise his children as he chooses and within 'what legal bounds'?

You're right. I never thought of it that way.

WOW! I realize this response was directed to Delano, but I would like to respond. NO ONE SHOULD HAVE THE LUXURY OF EXCUSES. Women can't be leader!? Women can't be leaders that should also be held responsible for good as well as bade actions!? Thank God for America then, because my children were forcibly taken away from me byway of A BLACK WOMAN JUDGE and due to many BLACK WOMEN SOCIAL SERVICE WORKERS. This BLACK WOMAN judge broke up a Black FAmily because she hates BLACK MEN. She hated me because I was married and I had to get media to expose her. Others have stated the same about her. All of these women that assisted in a cover up, were NOT MARRIED or had NO CHILDREN or NO SONS. This judges mother had her and her sister out of wedlock and they have been made to HATE THEIR FATHER, a BLACK MAN. This GENDER STRUGGLE between Black people needs to stop. This issue happened way back in time, in Africa, byway of White Supremacist Movement. . . in ancient times. So, no, I don't really 'give thanks to America' because this judge was selected to be a judge in FAMILY COURT by Americans!!! She was selected by the vote, even though she had no husband, never been married, and she had no children. Yes, as in ancient times, WOMEN SHOULD BE LEADERS, but they should also be held accountable for our plight today. Otherwise, we will never be free. Pioneer @Pioneer1 Okay. I will respect that. But as for others, I hope they do go down 'that rabbit hole' cause they may find that there is a bottom to it. And, that Movement did nothing for me. I sat at the table and studied with an Islamic man and he did not agree with that man you support. That nation is divided today, because that leader had sex with teenage girls and that is a serious problem. So, I will leave off of this topic with you, but I will continue. A CHILD SHOULD NOT BE FORCED TO HAVE SEX WITH A GROWN ASS MAN! Ah well!!! There you go!!! THANK YOU @Troy

OMG! Her age!? A TEENAGER! Okay let's see here . . . 13 or 14 or 15 or 16 or 17 or 18 or 19 . . . Let me see here . . . what was I doing when I was 13 . . . 19. At 13, I was still playing with toys and I was not even interested in boys. I was i MIddle School, 7th grade going to 8th grade. a total child. . . . At the age of SWEET 16 I was a senior in high school and at that time, I could not even imagine a grown man forcing himself on me!!! OH WAIT A MINUTE . . . THAT DID ALMOST HAPPEN with my high school History teacher . . . I begged him to stop . . . and he did. I was a complete Virgin at the time. WOW to think I could have been forced into a marriage or motherhood at that time. . . @Pioneer1 You would allow your own daughter to be married as a teenager!!!? No way! LOL! Yes! You responded while I was typing the previous response! LOL. I didn't realize you were on! THANK YOU!

No!!!-- @Pioneer1 LOL, I'm screaming now! Listen, there is such a thing as grown men forcing themselves on teenage girls! It has happened. I am asking you about 'if that were your own teenage daughter'. It doesn't matter if someone tried to launch a smear or hate campaign against 'your contractor'. I'm asking you, 'What if it was true and it was YOUR TEENAGE DAUGHTER'. You are diverting my question.

Yes, indeed! Even though these words may seem 'insensitive' they are terms that are defined on a legal basis. I think some children may be harmed by others who use these terms to hurt, but these terms also protect other victims. I for one, being married, think about the other aspect!!! What if a wife has been left to deal with her husbands 'affairs that left illegitamte children' after his death!? How is that woman to deal with the legalities and wanting to make sure that her own 'legitamite children' are not deprived. So, yes, these terms 'bastard and illegite' are legal terms that is needed! When certaim men in leadership positons think that they can do things that are overlooked, eventually, others are left to deal with the negative repercussions. Therefore, maybe we should think about these leaders' actions while they are doing them! @Delano Good question! LOL. I guess that is what the court battle is all about! The NOI is saying that mony belongs to them and then on the other hand, the children feel the money belongs to them. And then there is the wife and legitimate children who feel the money and financial decision belongs to them!!! . . . SO OFF TO COURT THEY GO . . . in America . . . whose laws are applied by the lawmakers of this land. MAN WHAT A MESS. @Pioneer1 LOL! Pioneer, it is NOT always that way that you are seeing it! Not all arguments and debates should be based on GENDER! @Pioneer1 You know, I kinda agree with you here! But I think that there is a reason. The way this woman 'Sally Hemmings' was taught to us, BLACK FOLK, was that she was 'BLACK'!!! ANd this is the problem. She was defined to us as being Black and so, we identified with her. ANd some Black people were so happy to believe that Thomas Jefferson had fell in love with a Black Slave woman!!! But this was such a terrible and deliberate misrepresentation of the real truth. But no matter, by the time the truth came out, many Black people clung to the lie so much that they were not willing to hear the real truth. @Pioneer1 I can understand part of what you say here! I feel that there is a serious problem with how we as BLACK AMERICANS have been conditioned to go against the BLACK MALE LEADERSHIP! But, on the other hand, if Black men have bought into that old timey DOMINATE BLACK WOMEN SYNDROME, then they do not need to be leaders.

https://www.nytimes.com/1987/11/03/us/19-children-of-muslim-leader-battle-a-bank-for-5.7-million.html WOW This is interesting. Now, I am wondering about questions that could possibly be directed towards @Pioneer1. So now, the repercussions of the leader in his actions to have sex and father childrne from young girls is passed off onto the NOI community that supported their leader and turned a deaf ear to these relationships. So they supported their leader seemingly unconditionally OH BUT NOW, it seems that some of these supporters don't want the 'Illigitemate' children to have a reasonable compensation from their father's earning??? Why not? Why would certain NOI members dislike these offspring for expecting to have substantial support from their father's earning? Just by the mere fact that they could have endured harship from others as a result of being born from young girls should dictate that they each receive compensation for being the leader's child, IMO. So now, if the NOI community don't want the offspring of this leader to receive fair compensation for the trouble their father caused them to be exposed to due to his actions, then the community should have confronted their leader. Am I looking at this the wrong way? I wonder if I have gotten something right.

@Troy Good Point. I think this term 'Illegitimate' is thrown around to loosely without considering the plight of many people who happen to be born from situations beyond their own control, and this can unfairly put a dark cloud over someone who deserves a fair chance at life and opportunity. Nevertheless, I understand what @Del is referring to regarding the conflict in the NOI that cause the organization to become divided.

yeah, that is too much for me. @Pioneer1 But, if that man was banging young girls and you had a young daughter, you expect me to believe that you would have no problem letting that contractor work on your house around your daughter in your absence? So, it wouldn't matter if he was banging your young daughter, --along with other young girls--just that he did a good job as a contractor working on your house?

@Pioneer1 LOL I think I could debate that with you! I partially agree to a point. Some of my co-workers from Nigeria are beautiful. They are thin and their skin glowed and they have bright eyes. But, Other Americans who have been to Nigeria say it is very, very poor country. And, some documentaries show that a lot of Nigerian woman are extremely large--Thick Madames-- and they consider it a quality to be 'Thick Madames'. LOL! You may need to look at the Olympics! And see who is winning percentage-wise! I think it is 50%-50% when all factors are taken into consideration.

Wow Yes.

@Pioneer1 Truth! @Troy I absolutely agree!

Baby Elephant Falls in Pool Rescued by Mom and Aunt I love to watch nature films and this one really amazes me. I watched it over and over again. The film captures the elephants’ reactions when the baby ‘calf’ accidentally fell into a pool. The older elephants immediately responded and became frantic. The Mommy elephant initially became paralyzed with fear and her sister, who was not even near the incident, sensed the danger and immediately and without any hesitation came running to help out. Do we as humans respond in this way if a child’s life becomes threatened? Well, I think for many people this would be the case but for me, it did not happen. My mother used to always say to me that ‘I was the Judah of my family’ and ‘that I was the scapegoat’, however, I wish she would never had said that. But yes, for some strange reason, I was the family idiot and many times came to the rescue of my family. But when I needed help, I was abandoned . . . until my uncle(s) came running to my rescue. I think that it is good to reflect on some animal behaviors because it may help to understand how we as humans have sometimes gotten off track in how we should relate one to another. I especially wanted to post this here in relation to some cases about THE BLACK AMERICAN CULTURE because I feel that at times, we have gotten off track here in America to some degree. And so, in addition to this video, I think it would be good to consider some of the strange decisions of some Black Mothers today with regards to the protection and welfare of their children. I think that some issues have become so common that many of us today, have become selective and choose not to recognize that there is a serious problem. And because many of us don’t think that there happens to be a problem, then no solution has been sought. For whatever reason, there are times when Black Mothers do abandon and abuse their children but why? Could it be because they need help and are not getting ADEQUATE SUPPORT from their husband, family members, or the government? Nevertheless, when I watch nature films like this, it makes me think about certain ills of our society. At any rate, this incident captured on video went viral and I think it was for a very good reason. The baby elephant was standing beside the mother and the edge of the pool ‘gave way’ and the baby fell into the pool and could not stay above the water. The mother panicked but, immediately and it seemed almost simultaneously, the Auntie who was a ways off sensed the danger and she came running! Auntie realized the Mommy was frantic and bewildered and so she, without any hesitation, ran on the far side of the Mommy. The Auntie shoved the Mommy so hard that the Auntie’s back legs actually slipped! LOL. She forced the Mommy into responding. Meanwhile, in the background, there was another elephant ‘freaking out’ about the incident. This elephant was prevented from being able to advance because of a fence. But the elephant immediately started pacing and running alongside the rope back and forth. But Auntie was able to get the Mommy to move. Then they both ran to the shallow entry into the pool side. The Auntie ran on one side of the desperate baby and the mother went to the other side and they both guided the baby over to the shallow edge of the pool and then the baby was able to walk out of the pool. ============================================================================================================================= Mother accused of drowning daughter in Tampa river had just been cleared in abuse investigation August 3, 2018, 3:25 PM A woman accused of drowning her screaming 4-year-old daughter in a Tampa river had been cleared this week by sheriff's child abuse investigators. The Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office issued a statement Friday saying its child protection unit had started an investigation of Shakayla Denson, 26, on June 19 about her treatment of her daughter, Je'Hyrah Daniels. The investigation was closed Tuesday after no evidence of maltreatment, abuse or neglect was found, the agency said. … … Tampa police say Denson stole a car Thursday afternoon from a sales lot and forced her daughter inside. As she drove away, she knocked over a bystander who tried to stop her. About 40 minutes later, the car pulled up to the Hillsborough River, which runs through Tampa. Witnesses told police that Denson dragged the screaming girl to the water, waded in until she was shoulder deep and pushed the girl into the current to float away. They said Denson then walked out of the water and away from the river. She was arrested nearby. https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-shakayla-denson-daughter-drowned-20180803-story.html Nov 14, 2018 … Family members informed officials that Daniels had autism and was non-verbal. According to the report, HSCO was originally involved in the case in June 2018 after they received a report concerning Denson's ability to properly supervise Je'hyrah. The report referred to an incident when Daniels got out of her great-grandmother's house and wandered to a park about six minutes away. https://www.wtsp.com/article/news/crime/final-welfare-report-showed-no-risk-of-harm-to-daughter-left-to-drown-in-hillsborough-river/67-614515126 My thoughts are; Could this have been prevented. I wish I knew the answer.

WOW Jare Ijalana ~ She’s Only 5 Years Old! Back in July, this news broke due to photos of this little girl from Nigeria. She’s been dubbed ‘the Most Beautiful Girl in the World’. A little girl from Nigeria named Jare Ijalana has earned the title of “The most beautiful girl in the world” after three of her pictures went viral on social media. The 5-year-old child was photographed by Mofe Bamuyiwa who revealed that she chose not to make Jare laugh or smile but instead wanted to create a natural moment…. https://www.blackpeopleforum.com/2018/07/26/jare-ijalana-nigerian-girl-5-is-called-the-most-beautiful-in-the-world_n_126.html =========================================================================================================== I hope she won’t be exploited. Children need to be children, that’s how I feel. There are a few reports that the viral photo shows her wearing a wig, nevertheless, there are other pictures taken of her with her mother and sister as well and they are all beautiful.

@Pioneer1 Well, in this case, I think the issue here was not exactly about them protecting their women, but as a whole, it was about them protecting all of their people and protecting themselves from outside invasion from the 'White American Christian Movement'. Firstly though, I want to say, that I feel sad for that man that was killed. He was so young, only 26 years old. But I can't believe that he was made to believe that he could go to these people like that!!! I can't believe that he would try to bring that form of 'Christianity' to these people. According to what I read, it was illegal for him to go there anyway.

@Pioneer1 Thank you. I am trying to get better. It's a long road. I'm on my way back to Florida for awhile and maybe the warm weather will help. It's cold where I am now, in Maryland. Milk--no chees--no chocolate . . . I'm pleading the 5th. lol! LOL... NOw, that's interesting.

@Pioneer1 Hey! I'm doing fine. Thank you! I've been sick with Bronchitis. LOL! You need to stop! I've been procrastinating a little, but you forced me to relook at some terms, and that is good! It only reinforced what I already researched. But I am very glad you did. Also, I think I've been sidetracking too, and gossiping.