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@Pioneer1 Truth! But because of being in a state of confusion is still why we should keep searching for the whole truth, and this will hopefully end our confusion. Even though sometimes it may seem hard to debate, converse, or argue over issues that affect us as a whole, and yes, we as a whole may be mocked due to the conflicst that arise as a result of being confused, and in how we debate, however, how else will be gain truth? We have been lied to and exploited by White Supremacy and its' Movements for so long. And, some of the topics raised in this post regarding 'the Royals' seems so fitting on this wise.

This is interesting. After reading over this post, I don't have any comments yet, about the published work, but in all that I've read, I am wondering too, where to Black people fit into this past mindset of workd domination!? When I read further into the numbered points of 'protocol', never was the specific presence of Blacks mentioned! And, furthermore, the book is suppose to be the work of the Jews, with this modern word 're-definition' of Jews, and that to me is part of the scheme--tying in these modern Jews with the Original Jews. It's like defining African Americans under the likes of Kim Kardashian in the future and lumping all of us 'Negroes' under that kind of definition and making it appear that we would be in agreement with what ever notion the likes of those kind of 'new age African Americans' may cook up.

LOL. Oh Geez... This was too funny! I am fading in and out too!-- But right now, I'm so busy I can't get back and chime in regulary, ... but I'm trying... I'm gearing up... to post some more... about 'being more Moor than I thought!--- I can't be mad at ya... this is too funny.

Yes, thank you! You've spoken volumes. Some of the issues being raised here in this debate and conversation seem to correlate. Knowledge is power. When a person has the opportunity to become educated and obtain a better quality of life, they have a better chance of making better decisions in times of conflict, but it still doesn't make them immune though, to lashing out. And also, there are so many people that may never have a chance to live in a community where they don't feel constantly threatened. I didn't have to raise my kids as a single mother, but I feel so much passion for mothers who are in that situation and have to deal with gang violence. How do you protect your child? Jobs and opportunity are a benefit but after a person has been in a stressful environment for a long time, they may still carry that defensive front with them and be aggressive to others for little or know justified reason.

Not many. I wonder though, isn't this conditioning? More specifically, I think some people are trained from young, conditioned to think before they react, but others are trained to defend themselves... from young and it may be a cultural issue too. As a teacher for middle school children, I came across situations several times where young Black children will say that their parent told them not to back down, but other kinds of children react totally different if they are bullied.

LOL! On point!

@Delano and @TroyWHEW! I was wondering if I should enter this room... I was thinking maybe I should find some 'Yo Daddy jokes' or quotes to debate this point, but the 'Yo Mama quotes' outnumber all in this categorey and I am not blessed with delivering funny jokes! Anywhoo, I like to think of myself as a serious person, but, I can tell you, I too can get caught up into 'wanting to fight someone just because they say something offensive... even if I know I shouldn't take it personally... there I go, getting all worked up... and regretting it later. I realize yall may not be all that into Bible history, but this is the best example that I can give for this conversation... David had gotten so worked up when his request was rejected by another man, who he'd ask for help that he sent word to the guy that 'he was going to kill everything that pissed on the wall' and the guy's wife made an intercepting because she knew that her husband was selfish. So she sent a party to meet David and his party and offered them the help. The next day, that guy had a heart attack and died and soon after DAvid, met that woman, ABIGAIL, and he married her. So I think this is a good example of how anyone can get 'bent out of sort and want to fight, no matter if they have substance or not. I hope I would never want to fight someone who steps on my shoes or says 'Yo Mama jokes to me'.... But Hey, I am not sure that I am immune though.... I hope not. May he RIP!

HISTORY - THE BLACK DEATH PLAGUE, Europe, China & Daniel Time & Measurement with the Science of Stars This research about the Black Death Plague [ie Bubonic Plague] will be a brief synopsis of a much bigger subject than can be captured in this post. The importance of this catastrophic event affected many lands and peoples and may help to understand many other events that occurred as a result. My interest in this subject though surfaces because of a much earlier written work and so therefore, I will share certain dates from the distant past that do connect specific events as they relate to this Black Death Plague that happened during the Middle Ages. However, this plague was recorded over here with dates that mark the epidemic as it occurred in Europe but however, the time and origins of its’ appearance has not been disclosed widely. The fact that this horrible plague actually began far away in China and then eventually became brought into Europe and lasted for decades has been downplayed. So following will be a brief outline of a major historical event that, in my opinion, becomes almost grander than what happened in the days of Moses when the Destroyer written to have moved through the streets of Egypt. Assyrian Empire ----- Neo-Babylonian Empire ----- Medo-Persian Empire ----- Greek Empire ----- Caesar Augustus ---------- AD 1099 ---------- 1256 ------- 1290 ------- 1335 ------- 1492 --- 1607----- ----------------------- 1st CRUSADE -------- Assassins—--End Crusades --- plague --- New World -------- *AD 1290/1291 = The End of the Crusades *AD 1335 = THE BLACK DEATH PLAGE https://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/crus/hd_crus.htm http://www.historynet.com/third-crusade-siege-of-acre.htm https://books.google.com/books?id=MMYHuvhWBH4C&pg=PA52&lpg=PA52&dq=bubonic+plague,+china,+1335&source=bl&ots=qazNS6kiUR&sig=zbgk5B_1pXEnCiVOLdYYVCNsnHY&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjXpbbr6ZHcAhUlwYMKHQEQCwQ4ChDoAQgmMAA#v=onepage&q=bubonic%20plague%2C%20china%2C%201335&f=false https://www.thoughtco.com/black-death-in-asia-bubonic-plague-195144 https://www.preceden.com/timelines/49344-the-black-death-timeline https://www.quora.com/What-was-the-effect-of-the-Black-Plague-on-Asia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1256 [1] The Book of DANIEL Chapter Twelve -- Daniel’s Vision/Prophecy –This was the second time that Daniel had this vision and it was some years later after he wrote about it initially. And at this time, he wrote that he did not understand the timing of his vision and when it would occur. In fact, it was within the vision that he wrote about his confusion as to when this prophecy would happen. Daniel wrote that when he inquired in depth, the angel in the vision told him instead to ‘seal up his vision’ until it was a later time that it should be unfolded. Furthermore, the angel told Daniel that the prophecy of his vision would be manifested based on specific events that Daniel wrote down. Today though, as it has been written, there are no more mysteries and as a result of a process of time, and all of the ‘sealed up prophecies’ have been revealed. That should mean that today, we should all be able to understand what was written in the Bible by the Nebiim prophets. The Bible says that ‘no interpretation is private’ so again, today, we should all be able to understand the Bible should we do try and seek to gain a more clearer understanding of what was written. So now, Daniel did not completely understand his written and published vision because it revolved around a major celestial event that he had not experienced in his lifetime, an event, that led to a better and more accurate method to date and measure time precisely—the Advent of the Star of Bethlehem. During Daniel’s lifetime and as he lived during the times of the Neo-Babylonian Empire system and the Persian Empire system, the method used to date written works were based on various marks such as a particular kings’ lifetime and his progeny. At the time of his second vision, it was during the AD 400s and this would be some 400 years before the advent of this great wonder of a great star that came into our skies. And so, this very prophecy was based on this star, an event that led to the entire world being able to synchronize and measure time accurately. This then would be the nature of Daniel’s Vision: … And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders? And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished. DANIEL 12:6-7. [2] Unlike Daniel’s vision years earlier, in this vision, ‘the Lord’ was dressed in his death shroud; linen. Also, part of the process in the method and writings of the prophets in the sealing of scripture would be in how the unit of time was expressed at times in prophecy. This method was redundant and was clarified during the days of the Gospel. Just like today, the unit of time was expressed ‘in proportion’ and this was also clarified in scripture in certain scriptures. The prophets wrote that ‘a day for a year’ and this means that certain prophecies were in respect to ‘the measure unit of a year’ and at times it meant both; two prophecies in one. This then was one aspect of how Daniel ‘sealed his prophecy’: And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things? And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end. Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand. And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days. But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days. DANIEL 12:8-13. So now then, I will break this prophecy down point for point: [3] THE TIME OF THE END--- This does not begin today, but ‘the time of the end’ is relative and it actually began at the First Coming and during the Roman Empire times which is about 2000 years ago. The Apostle Peter wrote that we are at ‘end times’ that would be in respect to things that have occurred in this earth way beyond the time of Adam and Eve. It means millions and millions of years ago even!—What has occurred after the presence of the ‘modern mankind’ is very recent in comparison to what has happened on this earth! So ‘end times’ has not been clarified properly and ‘end times’ which includes ‘Judgment Day’—according to the Bible will go on for another ‘TIME AND SEASON’, meaning another ‘1000 + 90 YEARS!’—according to Daniel’s prophecy and the prophet Isaiah. Judgement Day is actually ‘a judgment millennium’! [4] THE DAILY SACRIFICE SHALL BE TAKEN AWAY – This would be THE CRUCIFIXION—an event that did not occur until about 400 years later after Daniel wrote about his vision and coined this phrase. The Crucifixion was based upon the advent of the Star of Bethlehem of which became A FIXED POINT that caused all governments to be able to synchronize their dating system and mark historical events more accurately. This prophecy of the great star was written prophecy thousands of years prior by priest-scientist in ancient times. The Crucifixion was well scripted and revolves around, not only what happened during the Roman Empire times, but events that happened in the dawn of our modern civilization! The Crucifixion marks evil practices of human sacrifice carried out against particular humans and dark rituals that occurred even before the time of Noah. However, the PASSOVER observance was detailed in regards to the Sacrificial Lamb [ie Ram] in stages. After the Crucifixion which occurred about thirty years after the birth of Jesus, then about thirty years later came Masada in AD 66 on April 17. So, the practice of bringing the daily offerings to the priesthood and the temple in Jerusalem ended by the Mark of the Crucifixion and death of Jesus when he was thirty-three and a half (33½) years old. The Romans outlawed the Sanhedrin and destroyed the temple based on what happened thirty years prior at the Crucifixion. Therefore, the mark of the prophecy of Daniel revolves around these events that did not happen in his lifetime during the time of the construction of the Second Temple. [5] THE ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION SET UP & 1290 Days: So now, with the fixed point of the Crucifixion and the taking away of Jesus, the lamb of God, we may better understand this prophecy. AD 1290 marks the end of THE CRUSADES to the very year. Although secular books publish the date as AD 1291 when the Mamluks and Muslims defeated the Crusaders in Acre (Lebanon), during the springtime; however, the NEW YEAR for Israel begins in the fall during the month of September. The Bible states that, during the days of Moses when this New Year was instituted, it was to be their New Year forever (based on a lunar Calendar). Therefore, technically, the year would be AD 1290 until the fall time. There happens to be a lot more information about this aspect of the scripture. And, the phrase ‘Abomination of Desolation Set Up’, refers to the newly presence of CANNONS that was used by the Mongol forces against the Islamics and Muslims in the ‘the Middle East’ from the Abbasid Khaliphates in Iran all the way west to the Mediterranean Sea. Dead bodies were piled up… and it also consisted at times, of ‘a Black-on-Black’ conflict … There is much more to this story… So the time of the SET UP OF THE CANNONS would be specific because it marks the time when the cannons were first used against the Islamic people, the Assassins, in a stronghold in Iran that originally was a Black stronghold called 'The Eagles Nest'. Therefore, this prophecy can be viewed as a simple math word problem and the unknown can be solved to completely define this prophecy written by Daniel and clarify this aspect of the Bible: [6] *From the time the DAILY SACRIFICE WAS TAKEN AWAY = Crucifixion = 33.3 *When the Abomination that Maketh Desolate is Set UP = x *is the sum of 1290 units *the very end of the Mongol Movement = 1335 units *unit measure is ‘a day = a year’ 33.3 + x = 1290 years x = 1290 – 33.3 x = AD 1256 [1256.7] -- When the Abomination of Desolation was Set up-- CANNONS 45 Years later after AD 1290 ending the CRUSADES = AD 1335 -- THE BLACK DEATH PLAGUE So, the set up of the Abomination that Makes Desolation would be AD 1256 according to the Bible, and this would be the exact time that the cannons were used against the Muslim world beginning in the Alamut stronghold in Iran. It marks a time in which the Crusaders used the help of the Mongols to crush the Seljuks Turks and, etc., … the Hebrews Israelites as well. [7] AD 1335 – The Beginning of THE BLACK DEATH PLAGUE So, forty-five (45) years after the end of the Crusades and after the Mongolians dominated the regions in the east and ‘the Middle East’, came the Black Death Plague of which began in their lands. Most western publications only begin this plague to begin in 1347, but the deaths of many leaders will reveal that this plague began years earlier. Furthermore, some publish the date of this plague to begin in 1333 while others write 1335 and this is due to the two-year discrepancy that stems from western authors and the western Calendars that still to this day continues. This can be confirmed due to the very Star of Bethlehem, which is the planet Saturn’ that has returned in April 16/17, 2002, and was configured in the very same planetary alignment as it did about 2000 years ago when the Christ child was born. Our Calendars today are two years off. In conclusion, this prophecy of Daniel’s was written about 400 years before the First Coming and today, it is old news. It has already come to past. This prophecy did not even begin to happen until more than a thousand years after Daniel lived, and he actually lived in Iran, where this killing began in AD 1256 against the Muslim/Islamic world due to the invention of cannons. There happens to be so much more information about this time and history that actually revolves around the dominant presence of Hebrew Israelite people of whom were on both sides of this incredible conflict that was headed up by the descendants of Genghis Khan. In fact, it was these events just like the Exodus, that led to another hated movement eventually against the Jews and Israel in Europe; ‘Get Rid of the Infidels’. Soon, in 1492, Columbus Sailed the ocean blue’… and slavery began. But more than a hundred years prior in 1335, the Bubonic Plague sparked many, many different kinds of people to flee the Eurasian continent and many found their way into the Americas at that time, but this has been kept out of the front pages of our history books. This kind of Biblical history is mute over here in America due to the Separation of Church and State, and the additional fact that the very mother of the Mongol rulers was also defined to be Hebrew Israelite seems unbelievable in one aspect and then unimportant in another aspect, … because most of us over here have no idea of the true origins of the Israelites anyway. It may take a long time, maybe another ‘time and a season’ to unfold all of the hidden truths of what happened in the past. ================================================================================================================================ …In 1335, the Il-Khan (Mongol) ruler of Persia and the Middle East, Abu Said, died of bubonic plague during a war with his northern cousins, the Golden Horde. This signaled the beginning of the end for ongol rule in the region. … …Although the Pax Mongolica had allowed increased wealth and cultural exchange, through a reopening of the Silk Road, it also allowed this deadly contagion to spread rapidly westward from its origin in western China or eastern Central Asia. As a result, the world's second-largest empire ever crumbled and fell. https://www.thoughtco.com/black-death-in-asia-bubonic-plague-195144 An epidemic in 1333 which would eventually destroyed two-thirds of China’s population hit the northeastern Chinese province of Hopei. It took up to 90% of the population. About five million Chinese people were hit by this plague. Since China was known as one of the busiest world trading nations. It was only a matter of time before the outbreak of China spread through Western Asia and Europe. https://www.preceden.com/timelines/49344-the-black-death-timeline The Siege of Acre (also called the Fall of Acre) took place in 1291 and resulted in the loss of the Crusader-controlled city of Acre to the Mamluks. It is considered one of the most important battles of the period. … https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Acre_(1291) 1256 Asia … A large volcanic eruption on Harrat Rahat (near Medina) is associated with an Islamic prophecy. [1] October – Mongol commander Baiju (operating under Hulagu Khan’s command) leads his forces in a victory over Kay a’us II of the Sultanate of Rum, thereby capturing Anatolia. December 15 – Hulagu Khan captures and destroys the Hashshashin stronghold at Alamut in present-day Iran. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1256

@Troy I referenced the Book of DANIEL Chapter 12 in this research and I re-checked to see if, as you said in another thread that I linked Revelation.

Wow! you see @TroyThis is my very point about my threads not being posted, altered, or something weird going on--I don't remember posting the link you are quoting to back up my research at all. In fact, I don't even know what you are referring to! And like you, this link sounds ridiculous to me. I don't recall reading or linking anything of a sort in response to the United States being compared to Revelations. I posted a thread about 'the archeology of Noah' and earlier I posted a thread about ancient Turkey Anatolia. I don't recall linking anything to the United States. Now I am wondering if my research has been maliciously changed. I am going to now, re-read what i posted about the two threads I did recently posted and check the link you said I listed. @Pioneer1 Thank you!

@Pioneer1LOL. stop! Anyway, maybe I will if you publish... and if I have money! Definitely sincere response! Thank you for your information on the Talmud and the Jews, I am definitely doing a lot of research on this. @Troy I have responded to some other threads some dayz ago, and I don't see my responses. And, when I posted a thread last week, there was some weird things that happened such as initially, my thread posted and then, it disappeared, then an hour or so later, the thread appeared again and so on. @Pioneer1 Sometimes I don't see your responses. Why don't you "tag"?

Absolutely!

THE ARCHEOLOGY OF NOAH: The Chinese NAMI Team Part one It was only a few years ago that the movie theaters featured another film about Noah, the ark and the Great World Flood to draw in the big bucks and for other profitable reasons. Not only that but in Kentucky, a major theme park has just opened recently on July 7, 2016 called Ark Encounter, a massive financial project whereby, a giant vessel was constructed on the same scale detailed in the Holy Bible and, it has become a major tourist attraction. What better way to cover up the truth and to continue to draw the attention away from the real historical facts that surrounds the Biblical account in respects to the country we know today as Turkey [ie. Asia Minor, or Anatolia], the ancient governments and civilizations in and around that land, and the kinds of events that did happened in the earth that surrounds the dates and times this event was written to have occurred. However, along with these modern storytelling embellishments of the ark to continue to tell the history from a specific modern western point-of-view, it may also be good to be reminded of other important kinds events that have also been written about during these same timespans. Because of how our educational system has progressed since the formation of this American government, and because of the Separation of Church and State in July 4, 1776, there are other descriptive events and names omitted in our educational systems, major historical events that are aligned around the same time span this ark story was set to have occurred, and this kind of information may help to get a better view of those ancient times. Even more so intriguing would be that it was only eight (8) years prior to the opening of this theme park in Kentucky and at a time when many Americans were lined up at the polls to vote former president Barack Obama into the oval office, in October of 2008, that an expedition team from China known under the name, the NAMI PROJECT [Noah’s Ark Ministries International], that made a secretive ‘breaking world news event’ when they trekked up into the snowcapped mountains of Turkey (Anatolia) and reported that they had found the real wooden vessel and took their videos and cameras down into parts of the vessel to show the world. Oh but, Hey!—for those of us poor folk over here in America who may believe in the Bible who would never have the chance to see and prove this sight with our own eyes, a trip to Kentucky will probably be as close as will ever get under the circumstances of the times to view Noah’s ark! And too, for some African American descendants of slaves, a trip to visit a museum constructed of a multi-level giant wooden ship, lined with cages to trap animals for a year(!), might not be the kind of vacation experience desired at all, but rather, an uncanny harrowing reminder of the Transatlantic Slave Ship Era that our ancestors were forced to endure for about a years’ journey, being though, tightly packed, and a governmental excursion that occurred for over two hundred years. So even though a financial report has been stated in a recent film documentary that out of all the many tourist across the world that have made this mecca to Turkey Anatolia to see the museum and accounts of this ancient vessel, and even though it would be the Americans that has spent the most money in this endeavor, traveling across the world to this destination in Turkey to see the remnants of this great mysterious wonder, maybe now though, they can save their money and just go to Kentucky. This reconstructed tourist attraction of a massive wooden ship in Kentucky has been equipped with all of the technology of today with its’ surveillance cameras, excellent lighting, air conditioning, harmless sound effects of wild animal sounds and torrential storm wind affects, recreated models of many kinds of animals, and more, therefore, it seems to make for a much better experience than what the eight people written about on this quest could ever have dreamed to experienced. Heck, they even have remodeled forms of small dinosaurs to be a part of this expedition! And, due to the advance technology of today, better technology than even Noah could have mastered in his lifetime, this Ark Encounter comes equipped with best construction of ‘cesspools’ or, restrooms located in many areas in this museum, Oh!—I meant to say, in this vessel! A group of Chinese and Turkish evangelical explorers say wooden remains they have iscovered on Mount Ararat in eastern Turkey are the remains of Noah's Ark. Yeung Wing-cheung, a member of the 15-strong team from Noah's Ark Ministries International, says the structure has several compartments, some with wooden beams, which were believed to house animals. "It's not 100 per cent that it is Noah's Ark but we think it is 99.9 per cent that this is it," he told AFP. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-04-28/noahs-ark-discovered-on-turkish-mountain/413428 But this NAMI team was by far not the only account reported to have found this ark but this information too, has been hidden. At any rate, it would be impossible to capture the whole story of those ancient times in this short essay and to list all of the ancient historical events that occurred during the timespans that led up to the story of the Great World Flood and to highlight all of the important happenings in the ancient civilizations of those times to give credibility to the history of Turkey Anatolia at the time this Biblical account was recorded to have happened, but based on my more than twenty (20) years of research, I would like to just open the door to perhaps, looking at the past from a scientific perspective to history and the Bible too. My timeline that I have constructed would also be based upon deep research and that revolves around the events that occurred during the time of the Roman Empire. In the past, I began the count and measure of time based on Adam’s Creation and I counted forward, but I was unable to make confirmations. But then, I counted backwards from the time of the Roman Empire, compared and contrasted secular scholarly historical events to the Biblical accounts and so now, my timelines are exact. I can understand the conflict of ‘the different Creation Theories’ due to this process of the measurement of time. However, there would be much more to add to this issue of how time has been measured with regards to other substantial ‘fixed points’ in the celestial realm. So then, for now, I think it would be interesting to regard the ancient civilizations and certain kinds of archeology and terminology to open the mind to perhaps another avenue of history. Furthermore, while the account of Noah will be presented, it would be pretty advantageous to also pay close attention to another very famous ancient man, a very famous Black skinned man of Africa [KEMET] who history dates to have lived at the very same time that the Bible has scripted that the very High Priest of the living God to have lived; and his name was IMHOTEP. This then would be my conclusions of my findings in that they are both one and the same man. So no, Noah would not have looked like the image made today of the heavily bearded Classical Greek image of Zeus and Asclepius that the western civilizations had depicted for Noah to have appeared. And in respect to the true history of that time period, the question posed should be this; IF NOAH WAS TOLD TO CONSTRUCT A GIANT SHIP WHEN HE WAS 500 YEARS OLD, WHERE IN THE WORLD WOULD HE HAVE LIVED TO OBTAIN THAT KIND OF SKILL BUT AFRICA; EGYPT, IN THE VERY AREA WHERE IMHOTEP DID LIVE AND BECOME RENOWN FOR BEING A MASTER ARCHITECT, MASTER CARVER, MASTER SCUPTOR AND ETC.!? The Great Steppe Pyramid was said to be completed in 2667 BC during the Third Dynasty by the High Priest of Djoser, named IMHOTEP, of which, based on my research would be the one and the same NOAH. At this time, the Bible timelines show that Noah would have been around 300 years old. A Statue of IMHOTEP Imhotep carving Old Imhotep This would be the reason why, even though Imhotep constructed the tomb for Djoser, his tomb has never been found! Imhotep did not die at that time but he lived on to construct the great ark and he lived on for hundreds of years more before he died. And so, the construction of the Great Steppe Pyramid and many other skills Noah would have acquired therefore, he would have learned in ancient Egypt and this then, would have been his training ground long before he ended up in Turkey Anatolia surrounded by woods and trees. Noah would have learned how to work with wood in Egypt too, but the Egyptians acquired their logs from the Levant and the wood was traded and put on barges and floated down the river. And even though today, this information has been deliberately kept hidden, many Black African people still today use the salutation ‘HOTEP’ meaning I would suppose, ‘PEACE’, or ‘MAY YOU HAVE COMFORT’. Additionally, even though Imhotep has been defined as being ‘a commoner’ elevated under Djoser, however, it would be a newfound truth from a Biblical perspective that well, it would be the very Imhotep that this entire universe came from as a result of the Great World Flood! So he would, in essence, be much more important than Djoser of whom he had lived under and served for many years. Imhotep was A THEBAN PRIEST and he would have been born in and around Memphis in captivity. He was born during a time when mound building just began around the millennium. Although secular accounts of the birthdate of Imhotep greatly varies, however, the Bible timelines date his birth to be during the 2900s BC. However, due to the strange new phenomena that began to become more and more common, that is the phenomenon of DEATH, due to AGING, around the millennium, many great and renown men and women began to die off of whom had been born around the early times of the 4000s BC and obviously due to the belief of ‘life after death themes’ that began, therefore, people were having a hard time dealing with this strange phenomenon of death on a wide scale. So this DEATH THEME therefore, marks a new movement of mound building, tomb building and massive graves during the Pre-dynastic times where servants were killed and entombed along with the masters that they were made to serve. This horror of mass tomb constructions and mound building too, led to the South world, the Seth world, to become extremely oppressed and so soon after, during this THINITE PERIOD, a great new leader rose up from the south in Egypt named Narmer. Noah would not have known Adam, for he was dead more than a hundred years before this time period of the great oppression of the Seth world, the Thebans. And Noah would not have known the black skinned Cainite man, Narmer-the-Unifier, the eastern man, who fought against the Asiatics in North Egypt and caused the Thebans to gain freedom for a brief time period. Neither would Imhotep be dated to have known Narmer. But Noah’s father Lamech definitely knew Narmer based on the timelines, and would have likely participated in the war against the Asiatics. However, after the death of Narmer, secular history places the Thebans back under suppression again, and this would be the time that Noah would have been born. And the prophecy of Lamech hints at this time of captivity of the Seth world being bound to be ‘earth workers’ or mound builders to the point that some of them became well known for their skills. Lamech prophesized that his son Noah, would be a deliverer, and bring the Thebans peace: And Lamech lived an hundred eighty and two years, and begat a son: And he called his name Noah, saying, This same shall comfort us concerning our work and toil of our hands, because of the ground which the LORD hath cursed. GENESIS 5:28-9. According to the Bible, Lamech and his father, Methuselah, went on to live for hundreds of years. According to the Bible timeline, Lamech would have died just four (4) years before the world flood and Methuselah would have technically, died one year before the flood. Back in those times, the New Year was during the springtime so Methuselah would have died before March or the Leap Month of April of that next year. The flood was dated to have occurred during the 2300s BC, on April 17, and strangely so, this date, April 17, came to mark another phenomenon to occur thousands of years later. It marked the advent of the Star of Bethlehem and the birth of Jesus. Although I have not stressed other detail dates surrounding these events, though, my timelines are exact in respect to several events written about in ancient times. Following will be a very brief and general overview of my research about a certain aspect of the timelines that focuses around Biblical accounts as they relate to the account of Noah and the secular publications about ancient civilizations and archeological events and a concentration on ancient KEMET, Egypt and the civilizations around Turkey and Greater Babylon during these times. Cont. 4000s BC----------3000s BC-----2500s BC-----2000s BC----------1900s BC ---------- 1800s BC--- Adam------------- Narmer ---- Djoser -------flood ---------- Middle Bronze Age------- Labyrinth

THE ARCHEOLOGY OF NOAH Introduction I am getting ready to share some more of my research, and so I want to say this ahead of time that some of you who decide to read further may think that I have lost my mind. I am getting ready to flip the script and present a strange perspective on this ancient story that has brought in a lot of revenue in the entertainment world in their many movie productions. So I just want to prepare you too ahead of time. There is a lot of information though, that I have but for now, I will attempt to just make introductions to a renewed look at the past with respect to the secular scholarly script though about the same time period that this Biblical account was said to have occurred. Also too, I want to say that I grew up in the 1960s and the 70s and I came after the Civil Rights Movement and so, some of the terms that the Baby Boomers use to coin ancient times, was done away with by the time I became school age. So, when I share my take on some terms used today from that ‘Black Power’ days, some of you might not agree, and I am prepared for this too. For example, I have already seen these two terms used in this community, ‘HOTEP’ and ‘CAUCASIAN’ and well, I’m not sure of their complete meaning, but these terms were not common in my earlier surroundings. However, I think these terms are very important to understand though and plan to share my understandings, indeed within the context of this very research on The Archeology of Noah. I hope that I can shed some new light on this event.

yes, I do believe this too, about deductive reasoning, sifting through lies to try and get at the real truth. And yes, I believe that about cannibalism too. That sounds so fascinating. yes, that is true. This planet is old and who knows what is up ahead for mankind for sure. Nevertheless, I am not the kind of person to just let this system continue to feed me lies and then want me to accept it as truth! There is a strange spirit in this world today that somehow sees a benefit in oppressing people for self gain. Why can't we seek a better quality of life without feeling the desire to crush other people and to deliberately support a system of lies? This is so crazy. Thank you.

LOL! yes, that is a confusion. They keep redrawing the maps even when it concerns early history. I think the term WEST ASIA meant one thing and included Iran, then the term NEAR EAST was used to include MESOPOTAMIA and maybe Turkey, and now the term is THE MIDDLE EAST to include Mesopotamia and etc. And then way back whenever, the term West Asia was Iran and I suppose Central Asia was around the Aral Sea. Clearly, these terms reveal the presence and domination of Asiatics in 'the Middle East' LOL! The East, Asia, Asiatics, the FAR EAST, the NEAR EAST, the ORIENT ... this whole world seems to be dominated by THE EAST. smh. @TroyUh oh! LOL! Can I get in on this conversation? Actually, uhm, I absolutely remember reading somewhere that the international leagues in the Western nations did change the maps around some point in 1947 when they recarved the maps for the Jews in Europe to go back to 'the Middle East' and, I vaguely do remember that, believe it or not, yes, MOROCCO was included in on their geographical definition of 'THE MIDDLE EAST'. I think it does have something to do with the Arabs, Islam, and the muslims. yes, I think @Pioneer1 maybe right here. I just remember when I read something along those lines, I was amazed that they were defining parts of North Africa, all the way west as 'the Middle East'.

@Kalexander2 Thank you! I am so amazed as your strength, you inner being.

I love it! This so wonderfully stated. However, with respect to the 'giants' I don't believe that they were all 'this' or all 'that', or all negative or all positive. That is the issue here, some statements are 'myth' and I believe that over the years, the sound proof to confirm history is a tool(s) that we can not use or do not possess to verify history as being totally true or not.

@Troy I initially find it hard to believe that @Pioneer1 took it personal, but after a while of seeing other post, I do believe he did take it as a personal insult. So I understand. My attempt to 'step in cautiously' to be the 'peace makerr', helps sometimes to make things better for others... But since I did make statements, I will also say this; I felt that for the purpose of the forum, and because it seemed to be ongoing, and going and going, it was a good idea for someone to help the two posters maybe have a truce and to maybe come up with a better approach to converse on topics without attacking each other. I have no idea why they have done this back and forth, and I just read I think, that Kalexander2 did say he may not really care for Pioneer1's input. IMO, that's okay, but for them both to attack each is also not good if they don't stop, LOL. I've been there, done that too. I can get caught up into a conversation, however, deep inside, I know I should stop, leave off, but sometimes find myself in a rat race... I try to defend myself from what I perceive, as an passive aggressive attack against my person and NOT what I say or believe, but me. And, I have a trigger and sometimes in conversation, with certain relatives like my older sister , I find myself all worked up in a defensive mode and can't figure out how I continue to get to that point, only that I keep going into the conversation and get no satisfaction all the while. I still find it hard to believe that someone today, would take 'YO MAMA' jokes personally, but historically, this kind of conversation did tear down Black people and it is a great method to cause dissention. But, I didn't get that it was a personal insult coming from @Kalexander2 either. No, I don't weigh in on either of the two posters, in my opinion. I think the insults were pretty even between the both of them. I kind of felt like it was just that perhaps, some kind of dissention started back at some point and they may have needed a little nudge to bring the purpose of this forum back into thier focus. @Delano Ahhh! This is exactly my feelings, just couldn't word so well! Thank you!

@Pioneer1OH GOSH! You may have no idea how important your response is to me! You wrote 'in volumes'. You must have published because I would have never imagined such a response could be so approprately conclusive and captivating regarding this issue. GEEZ! You're right! The right approach! You're right again. I cannot begin to tell you, in a discreet manner, the kind of conflicts that has unexpectedly come to my mind, based on your response, due to the twist and turns of dealing with issues on this wise as a whole. Again, you've written a little, but it's volumes! Thank you so much for taking the time to write this! I plan to share this with my husband. I curious to hear his response. I suspect he is going to be very vocal!

Really? Well, I look forward to reading about more of your findings! You've just refreshed my memory on the terms; Talmud, Torah, Tanakh...

Yes, this is the real point here, even if the posters are not aiming to create havok, after awhile, I feel that it will undercut the wider purpose of a discussion board designed to uplift 'the Black Voice', and a positive outcome for Black people in general. And also, after awhile too, it may become obvious that some one may feel personally attacked, and when this seems to be the issue, I think a moderator, a peacemaker, may help bring the discussion back into focus. Unfortunately, we as human do show this 'going off the rail' behavior, and find it difficult to find a common ground. Sometimes, It's not easy to agree to disagree without personally attacking someone. But if someone is constantly undermining Black people of African descent, and there is a pattern, well, that is wrong.

@Pioneer1 But here is the issue that I see though; The Western Civilization and I suppose other nations too, keep changing the names and the maps with regards to the origins of certain people in ancient times. Iraq, Syria, Saudi, had people living in these areas that had other descriptive names that place them with 'other origins' that places them in Africa too, before they migrated east. For example, in the land of ancient Iran, Persia, lived the people of AI; and from my research, this name connects to a very early people during the Copper Age, that dominated 'the MIddle East' [ie. Jerusalem] and that came from MADAI-JAPHETH. From this civilization came people and civilization like; THE MENES, the ARMENIANS, the MEDES, MEDO-PERSIA, the ACHAEMENIDS, ... and some of these people were concentrated in THE WEST initially. Nevertheless, they are still defined as ORIENTAL, but not necessarily ASIAN. Some the early people, from my research shows that they were, as you said, BLACK. They interacted with the ancestors of the Khurds and Greater Babylon and etc. @Cynique Thank you!!!\

I did hear about that! I also read over some of the following quotes here in this thread too. It's been awhile, years, since I read his book, and his other books as well. I did do some research on how his book Roots, came together, his being in the Coast Guard and using this as an opportunity, his travels to Africa... I thought that was for real. You mean to tell me, he didn't go to Africa!? My conclusion after I researched the making of his book was that I was still in great admiration for his work. I actually did separate research in libraries on the facts about Kunta Kinte and some of the other people that surround the real facts. AGain, I can't remember all the details, but, I believe that ALex Haley did write a lot of facts into his book. I kind of remember that Kunta Kinte's daughter, Kizzie's mother, BELLE, was in reality somewhat different that the actress that portrayed her in film. The real true Belle, was sold off from the slave plantation after Kizzie was sold. That hurts me so deeply. And, Chicken George met a terrible death, he fell over in the fireplace and was burned to death.... At this point, I don't believe tht the supossedly, 'Creative liscense' that he was said to use was that detrimental against the bigger issue. @Troy Yes, thank you, I will!

@Mel Hopkins This is very interesting research. I have not heard of The African warrior Queen Nyabinghi. I too, have done research on the wife of Noah, and the wives of the patriarchs as well, and the name of Judith, and the idol Sekhmet, the lioness idol. But my findings doesn't view them in the positive though. However, you research about the positive aspect, it is refreshing! The information about the conflict in Uganda and the Germans is amazing.