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That poor child Well maybe times have changed, and kids are no longer clowned for having a jacked-up hair cut

Note the use of the words "perceived to share" and "the idea that people can be divided" Obviously the "idea" of race exists. The point is that just that and idea without basis in science. As a result, it is subject to human whim.

My God! If I were not already bald I'd be pulling my hair out now. It was a question? Which one if any of these statements do you disagree with; The science has already shown that race as a result of genetics do not exist.... Race as a result of a social construct does exist..... In the study you provided they are accepting using and dealing with race as a social construct... The study you link provided proof that the disparities in health outcome are a result of Access to treatment intervention tools and insurance etc.....not biology but racism

Because of rules like the "one drop" rule. We previously discussed Homer Plessy who had one African great-grand parent the other 8 were white. You would say he was white because of his phenotype. However he was booted out of the white card like any other negro. The case went to the Supreme Court who upheld the law that kept Homer out of the white car.

I know. What I was trying to say about "mainstream" media is fu*k dem. They generally don't cover us and when they do they get it wrong. We need to rely on out publications more. I much rather read what the Nation has to say about themselves than what "mainstream media" has to say about them. Does that make sense? Really? I presume this is stuff that is promulgated on more social media. If that is the case, I would be very careful extrapolating that to the general population of young people. The BS you see of social media is simply not representative of the general population. What the hell?! See this is one of those situations where a boy needs his father. A Black man would NEVER consider taking his Black some to a white barber. LOL! Well, your niece was on the marl with that one 'cause you are clearly racist

There were two. You could have easily find them as I asked multiple times. Here is the most recently asked question: Period. End of story. 'Nuff said. @Pioneer1 what specifically in the quoted statement you disagree with?

Evidence of what Frankster?

@Pioneer1 Just two glasses of wine nothing that would impair me There is actually a bug in the software when sometimes I cannot contribute a response to a post and when I can, I can't edit it. That was the case with my last post. Now that you have quoted it I'm not going back to edit it. I just deal with it, as there is supposed to be a completely revamped version of the software coming out soon. I meant to write What?! in reaction your reaction to Dr. Clarke's statement below: The problem is there is no way to do this objectively. Sure, but you can't do this based upon how one looks. Your joke, "Well, the fact is White people...aka Contr I mean....uh....aka Caucasians....lol." illustrated this. There are other more objective ways of grouping people.

One of the things I like about running this site is the stuff I learn. Someone ordered the book Negro with Guns yesterday; I was not really familiar with the book nor was I familiar with Robert F. Williams, the author of the book. Negro with Guns is considered "the most important intellectual influence on the Black Pather Party." He also helped found Radio Free Dixie which was broadcast out of Cuba, where he lived in exile for e time, and could be heard all over the south, NY and LA. During the Vietnam War it was it was rebroadcast in Vietnam. Now I appreciate Williams was probably popular in his day, but I'm disappointed I was not familiar with him until now. Coincidentally their memoirs, Memoirs of Robert and Mabel Williams: African American Freedom, Armed Resistance, and International Solidarity will be published next week

Well, the Nation has its own paper, The Final Call, an award-winning member of the NNPA. More people should read it -- even if you are not interested in the NOI. I hope @Pioneer1 and @ProfD are not doing that. I don't recall reading anything they have written indicating that. I sure they were great events. If I lived in DC I probably I would have attended too, but I was not interested in traveling to deal with the humongous crowds listening to speeches. That is just not my thing... Given the dwindling numbers of the members of the NOI it's impact will continue to wane. Particularly as the nation becomes more secular.

No, the situation does not move me to nausea either. The idea that incompetent even evil white men are running things is not a new concept -- at least not to Black people. America, clearly, rewards this type of behavior. Indeed, western civilization is founded and grew rich because of it. The difference today is there were enough smart and "moral" people around to keep things from running off the rails. I'm afraid we don't have that in place, as our best and brightest are preoccupied figuring out ways to keep on a meta platform for an additional millisecond or building AI to accomplish the same thing...

Whar!? I guess you’ll just continue to dodge my very simple questions. I read the passage. It sounds like a contemporary interpretation of an event. That’s self evident by the use of the word “white” to describe people in the time of Bilal That that quoted section can’t possibly be a direct quote as Bilal didn’t write or speak English I can guarantee you any text in his native language would not have translated to what was quoted.. Besides, this is the same person saying that everyone descended from Adam and Eve… you know what never mind.

The short answer is I really don’t know and you don’t know how many people Farrakhan has kept out of prison either You act like Farrakhan, is doing the work single-handedly or if he wasn’t there, the work of the NOI wouldn’t be getting done. I’m not trying to diminish minister Farrakhan‘s accomplishments as a leader — he is an excellent leader. I just think you’re overstating his impact. The million man March was a long time ago and you’d be hard pressed to find anything that’s come of it that has lasted until today. Besides, the impact of the nation of Islam seems to be in decline since the million man March. I don’t know if that’s true but it seems like it based upon living in Harlem two blocks away from Mosque number seven. maybe because Malcolm’s estrangement from the nation weakened its presence.

Pioneer, have you ever raised kids? The reason I ask is because what you've described is what the vast majority of us have done for all of recorded history -- without giving up bacon I've seen Farrakhan speak and he was perhaps the most compelling speaker I ever heard in person. The NOI trains their minister well. But people like Malcolm, Farrakhan, Khalid Muhammad do not come around very often. Who is the next charismatic leader of the NOI?

Y'all might find this article on the meltdown between Musk and Trump interesting.

@ProfD that nuisance is lost on @Pioneer1. Pioneer you have dodged my simple question about the racial identity of the two girls. Is that because you realize it will expose your flawed logic as it relates to a genetic basis for race? I'm surprised would even say that Clarke was "wrong" about this. Clarke illustrated that fact that it was known that there is only one human race was known before it the evidence of the human genome was even started. That @Pioneer1 is why there is no genetic test for race. Pioneer what does the fact that there can't be a genetic test for race tell you? Can you answer that question?

This was article emailed to me today. As I mentioned in another conversation, I have not been following the nonsense between Trump and Musk. However, I did read this article and found it very funny. The word "lickspittle" made me laugh out loud. I never read the word lickspittle before, but it certainly not something you wanna be LOL! (Nathan Howard/Reuters) When the end finally came, it was spectacular. Two narcissistic bullies, enjoying a marriage of diminishing convenience, finally decided to stop lying about each other. The point of no return was reached when Musk effectively accused President Trump of raping underage girls. Of course, what he overlooked while delivering this coup de grace, was how it reflected on him. If Trump really is “in the Epstein Files”—which, on Musk’s account, weren’t released due to how fully he is implicated in them—Musk knew this, and yet he was happy to serve as Trump’s lieutenant and lickspittle all the while. In fact, by his own account, Musk loved Trump “as much as a straight man can love another man”—until this week, when his feelings changed, for reasons that seem to have rather a lot to do with his own business interests and nothing to do with child rape. How sordid. How abject. How unforgivable. Once again, it is worth observing the role that social media is playing in the current chaos: Without immediate access to an audience of 220 million followers, Musk wouldn’t have been tempted (or able) to attack President Trump in ways that seem guaranteed to further complicate his life. Yes, he might have said something crazy in an interview eventually, but it is different having a slot machine for controversy always in one’s pocket. Musk’s frenzied petulance made it the best day on X in years—but it was also the perfect illustration of how destructive the platform has become. Is there a person on Earth who thinks that Musk’s use of X is good for him? Just consider how reckless Musk’s behavior was: He claimed that President Trump is “in the Epstein Files,” and that this “is the real reason they have not been made public”—and then ramified this allegation by saying “Mark this post for the future. The truth will come out.” But everyone knows that there was a long association between Trump and Epstein, so that cannot be what Musk was referring to. Rather, he is claiming to know that Trump participated in Epstein’s crimes—child rape, sex trafficking, etc. Was Musk divulging classified information in an effort to harm the President? It would appear so, assuming such information exists. Of course, Musk could also be lying—which he has begun to do with Trumpian abandon. Perhaps we will never know. Whatever the reasons for the dissolution of their friendship, Trump and Musk are showing us, yet again, how fully social media has corrupted our culture, along with the lives of some of the most powerful people in it. There is no denying that it has been fun to watch—but in a way that should make us feel, finally and fully, sick.

“There is no such thing as a race.” —Dr. John Henrik Clarke, Author, Historian, Educator @Pioneer1 and anyone else who might reject the so-called "white man's science" and continue hold on to the concept of race. Perhaps you will consider the words of Dr. Clarke.

There will be the need to some form of government provided minimum basic income. I'm telling you many entry level jobs can be replaced with an AI today. One person can do the job of two or more people right now. What will happen in the short term is that wealth inequality will increase. The people with the most money will not be the most ethical, so they will be useless. The rest of us will be at each other throats....

@Pioneer1 interesting video. I'm not sure what we are supposed to take from it. Sounds like he was hallucinating.

Are these two really beefing on social media like two immature middle schoolers? Crazy!

@Pioneer1?

From my perspective you are drawing an analogy between a computer program (AI) and a human. If not, what are you saying and what is you point? Sure, technically AI is a computer program, but AI is not "...But the same underlying principes." AI is not BASIC, Java or even C++. AI is fundamentally different. So, in my opinion it can absolutely go "rogue." AI can reach a point when it can recursively improve itself! Try to program that using Fortran

What you describe as "detailed evidence" is not detailed evidence indeed that is would be essentially proof and we would not be having this conversation. What we have are people grasping for straws based upon interpretations. There was a written language when these carving were in place. Why didn't those people simply write there were visitors from other worlds, or people in flying machine, or people who provided other worldly technology to help us build the pyramids? "Some claim..." more conspiracy theories. The 1,400 was just the first 5 months of May 2023. Time that is a significant number, but it is not enough to convince me, because I don't know what those people saw--and neither do they. 1,400 anecdotes do not equal proof - just a lot of anecdotes. Frankster if a stadium full of people (100K or more) look up in the sky and see a flying object that they cannot identify, it is called a UFO, that is FAR from proof of extraterrestrial life. Now I believe there must be extraterrestrial life because of the reason I previously described. However, I don't think the stuff in Chariots of the Gods or Ancient Aliens is proof.

profound. you know it’s one thing when you make a typo which I’m inclined to do, but it’s a completely different thing, when AutoCorrect changes words completely when you’re moved onto another paragraph. I know I need to reread everything… “Flying salsa” was supposed to be flying saucer.