Puffy. Combs. Arrested. ..

[harry brown]

Puffy. Combs. Arrested. .His. Lawyers.  Believe. He. Is. In. Danger. ,,The. Violence.  In. The. Jail. Prison. .....He. Could. Try. To. Use. A,,,Insanity. Defense. To. Be. Put. In. A. Prison. Asylum. .......How. ,Many. People.  Will. Puffy. Combs. Take. Down. With. Him. ...He,Needs. To. Take. Jay. Z. Down.  ..How. Much. Of. Rap.  ,Hip. Hop. Is. He. Taking. Down. ?  .Amazing. He. Kept. The. Hotel. Video ,,Of. Him. Dragging.  Cassie  Down. The. Hall. Way. In. TBE. Hotel. ....Is. T. D. Jskes   On. The. Freak. Off. Tapes ?  Who. Else. Is On. The,,Freak. Off. Tapes. That. They. Got. From. The. Raid. On. Puffy. ,Combs. House. ......People. Believe.  Jay. Z. Is. Worse. Than. R. Kelly ..- And. Beyonce. Might. Have. A. Touch. Of. Evil.......Wealthy. Black ,,Men.  ,Going. Down. Taking. Each. Other. Down.  .. Saw. On.  YouTube ,,Puffy. Squealing. On. Jay. Z. ......

[Pioneer1]

Before it's over with, I think they're going to try to indirectly pin Tupac's murder on him too.

They'll find a way to get him all up in the mix.

May even throw in Biggie's murder as well.

[Chevdove]

On 9/20/2024 at 1:34 PM, harry brown said:

The,,Freak. Off. Tapes. That. They. Got. From. The. Raid. On. Puffy. ,Combs. House. ......People. Believe.  Jay. Z. Is. Worse. Than. R. Kelly ..- And. Beyonce. Might. Have. A. Touch. Of. Evil.......

 

LOL!

Well, 50 cent said that JayZ is suspect in those 'All White Party's' but I won't believe it unless there is evidence. I don't thin they will find anything on him though. 

50 cent said that JayZ changed his image though to look like the Gay Painter and that like Diddy, he has some sugar in his tank. Both JayZ and Beyonce got an attorney on Perce Morgan and he made a public apology for something that Jaguar had said of which was proven to be false. 

 

Jennifer Lopez has also gotten a lawyer. I heard that she is now suing Diddy for something. 

 

 

On 9/21/2024 at 11:18 AM, Pioneer1 said:

Before it's over with, I think they're going to try to indirectly pin Tupac's murder on him too.

They'll find a way to get him all up in the mix.

May even throw in Biggie's murder as well.

 

Oh absolutely. That is what I've heard. 

I am not happy about how they took down Diddy though. If he is a monster then, yes, get him. But why stock him for all of these years?

There are so many White people lashing out at him, it makes me so angry. 

They are attacking his mother! She is 83 years old. 

Hasn't she suffered enough!? She has to look after her grandchildren now. 

America is so sick and racist. 

 

[ProfD]

2 hours ago, Chevdove said:

I am not happy about how they took down Diddy though. If he is a monster then, yes, get him. But why stock him for all of these years?

White supremacists usually break their tools when they no longer have use for them.

 

Machiavelli called it the art of the double-cross.

 

2 hours ago, Chevdove said:

There are so many White people lashing out at him, it makes me so angry. 

They are attacking his mother! She is 83 years old. 

Hasn't she suffered enough!? She has to look after her grandchildren now. 

America is so sick and racist. 

Diddy's offspring are mostly adults and every last one of them is rich. They don't need grandma to take care of them.

 

In fact, Diddy's sons were probably at the freak-offs.

 

We cannot pin these allegations on America being sick and racist.

 

Diddy brought this on himself believing he was untouchable and above the law. 

[Chevdove]

4 hours ago, ProfD said:

White supremacists usually break their tools when they no longer have use for them.

 

Machiavelli called it the art of the double-cross.

 

For real!

 

4 hours ago, ProfD said:

We cannot pin these allegations on America being sick and racist.

 

Diddy brought this on himself believing he was untouchable and above the law. 

 

Yes I understand it was bad behavior rewarded continually and so he built up a false sense of security.

But you should watch shows like Nancy Grace and then you will see how racist her followers are. 

She bashed Diddy's mother viciously and in the same video, admitted that Beiber's mother was wrong for letting her son be supervised under Diddy at the age of fifteen but passionately defended her and excused her actions. 

 

One comment said to go after all of the 'cockroaches'. 

I absolutely blame America because Black Americans come from broken homes whereby many Black mothers are left by themselves to have to earn income for their kids and so, they are left home alone and this is a major issue. 

 

Diddy has another attorney too.

 

I believe that he should be held accountable, but not for a life sentence.

 

 

 

 

[ProfD]

19 minutes ago, Chevdove said:

But you should watch shows like Nancy Grace and then you will see how racist her followers are. 

We know what she represents as soon as her mouth opens. We shouldn't be surprised who follows her. She's a clown.

 

19 minutes ago, Chevdove said:

She bashed Diddy's mother viciously and in the same video, admitted that Beiber's mother was wrong for letting her son be supervised under Diddy at the age of fifteen but passionately defended her and excused her actions.

I found it totally ridiculous that Usher and Bieber were placed in Diddy's care as young boys.

 

19 minutes ago, Chevdove said:

I absolutely blame America because Black Americans come from broken homes whereby many Black mothers are left by themselves to have to earn income for their kids and so, they are left home alone and this is a major issue. 

America isn't forcing Black women to have children to raise by themselves. We need some personal responsibility and accountability. A little family planning goes a long way too.

 

19 minutes ago, Chevdove said:

I believe that he should be held accountable, but not for a life sentence.

Diddy won't get a life sentence. They didn’t want to give him bail but he's worth too much to sit behind bars for too long. They're trying to make him sweat. 

[Troy]

I actually know the guy carrying the sign in the video.  AKA Relentless Aaron.

 

 

 

[Chevdove]

9 hours ago, Troy said:

I actually know the guy carrying the sign in the video.  AKA Relentless Aaron.

 

Yes, I was curious about his sign so even before I saw your post @Troy, I watched that video last night!

He was very honest, even about his being locked up. I believe him. He said that he came all the way up from Georgia to be there.

I hope that he gets some peace from whatever Diddy did to him. 

 

 

[Chevdove]

14 hours ago, ProfD said:

15 hours ago, Chevdove said:

But you should watch shows like Nancy Grace and then you will see how racist her followers are. 

We know what she represents as soon as her mouth opens. We shouldn't be surprised who follows her. She's a clown.

 

 I didn't think that she was that bad until now. 

 

14 hours ago, ProfD said:

I found it totally ridiculous that Usher and Bieber were placed in Diddy's care as young boys.

 

 

OOOoooh! Okay @ProfD keep your comment in mind about these two young men when I post your next comment and respond!!! 

 

 

14 hours ago, ProfD said:

15 hours ago, Chevdove said:

I absolutely blame America because Black Americans come from broken homes whereby many Black mothers are left by themselves to have to earn income for their kids and so, they are left home alone and this is a major issue. 

America isn't forcing Black women to have children to raise by themselves. We need some personal responsibility and accountability. A little family planning goes a long way too.

 

 

America isn't forcing Black women to have children to raise by themselves. We need some personal responsibility and accountability. A little family planning goes a long way too.

 

 

Is there some bias here!? I believe I can speak on this issue because I am older now and don't have any desire to do what I've witness so many older Black women do in how they compete with young Black girls. Because 'my cup has run over', therefore, I don't need to compete with younger girls. Both of my sons were born after I was 27 years old, but as a teacher on the secondary educational level, I believe that many Black girls become single mothers at about the same age as Justin Beiber and Usher when they went to Diddy camp!!! So why are you blaming 'Black women' for being single and having children as being a 'personal responsibility and holding them accountable' and not suggesting the same scrutiny against the 'two young boys' Beiber and Usher?

 

Most Black girls, are not women at the age of about 15, but they are minors. Most Black girls are being victimized but they don't know this and are being persecuted wrongfully and usually, the attack comes from not only White America, but Blacks. Many times these young black girls are being attacked by their own mothers and left to cope with pregnancy under this kind of discrimination. My mother did not watch over me when I was that age, and I was being approached relentlessly!!! I had so much attention from males that I came out of my shyness and gain confidence. My mother hated me intensely and made me feel completely ugly and rejected and I became a mute at a very young age up until my later high school years. But man, the boys-- lol! I went from zero to ten quickly and my head was in the clouds. I was so vain. lol. Had it not been for my father's family I would have been a young mother too! But, I was conservative and set limits that most girls of my age did not. My father and uncles would have killed me, so I thought, if I became to wild, my father would kill me. Even though, My parents divorced, I was sent back to be with my paternal Grandmother a lot and my father and uncles were very strict with values. I had so much attention from Black boys, White boys, etc. in college that I had to set some limits! lol. My cup has run over, so now that I'm older, I can see the hell that young girls are faced with if they come from broken families. 

 

As a teacher, the most disrespect I endure comes from Black girls and it is intense!!! But because of my degree of which involved taking courses in psychology that regards the growth and development of humans, I know that many Black girls are attacked and conditioned to act much older than their really are. I had a little second grade girl come into my classroom and her mother dressed her up as if she was a super model! ANd she had 'so much mouth' She responded to me as if she was my equal. lol.

 

And the middle school girls are insane with their disrespect in how they try to challenge me! Some of my black friends that are like me, as teachers, we will share our stories during lunchtime and double team these little girls. They will come into my classroom and help me with these little bad *ss girls. lol. But, some of the White teachers are really evil and will say things around us black teachers about the black girls that is unbelievable, like 'I hate that girl'!!! I am not kidding! But they will never say that about the other students. They treat the other students as they should, age appropriate. 

 

Therefore, because my heart goes out to these young kids, all of them no matter what culture they are or what gender, I will try to appeal to them all with both love and authority. I believe that a lot of Black kids do not go home to a strong family structure, therefore, I will be inclined to let them vent a little before I start academics. Sometimes, I have to give them tough love though, but after a few battles, I usually always am able to calm these young black girls down. When some of them reach 8th grade, they can be much taller than me! Their mothers sometimes let them dress to provocative too. Nevertheless, their brains are still too young to know what it is really like to be an adult. So, I have no problem dealing with them. But I do not play though. I can get rough if they want me to go to that level. But most of the time, these girls will calm down and I can see the child in them come right out. They'll fall in line and then I can teach. Many times they see me in the hallway and tell me they love me and run up to me and hug me. They are precious. 

 

So no, I do feel that America has a lot to do with broken Black families and single black motherhood and one income families and I do believe it started back during chattel slavery times. I am rigid on that belief. 

 

 

[Chevdove]

14 hours ago, ProfD said:

Diddy won't get a life sentence. They didn’t want to give him bail but he's worth too much to sit behind bars for too long. They're trying to make him sweat. 

 

That makes me feel better! I hope that you are right because I don't like what is happening to him. 

Ice Cube said that he believes 'they' are targeting him. 

 

No, I don't believe that Diddy is innocent, but some of the hype is unbelievable to me. 

They are going after him and saying that he is a monster and I have changed my mind on that score. I believe that he came to believe that he was above the law, and he did some things that he should not have done and should be investigated, yes, but the way that he is being attacked is wrong. 

 

This is ridiculous, they are not going after White criminals like that! Black people should be aware of this case because this is wrong. 

The allegations about 'minors' could be that young girls were brought to these parties, but so far it is not stated that Diddy engaged with them yet. It's all a public lynching. 

 

I believe Lil Rod completely and Diddy needs to be held accountable. But they act like he is not a male; males can be rough in every culture. men go to war. 

Homosexuality is a choice but not when they are minors though.

Black people need to remember that Diddy was 3 years old when his father was murdered.

So he was victimized too. You can believe that!

Someone to host parties like that, is not a bad person! He soon got too arrogant though, and he should be held accountable. 

If he paid to have someone killed, he should be put through a trial and if found guilty, then he should be held accountable.

I believe Katt and Mase, and 50 and Mike Tyson about what they said, but that does not make Diddy a bad person.

How did Diddy start Bad Boy Records!? Who helped him!? Who compromised him!?

You don't hear White people attack Hugh Hefner! You don't hear anything on that same level about Clive Davis. Jealous b3stards... smh.

Diddy is rough, I get it, but he is not a monster like they are saying. 

He needs to get it for what he did to women. I am praying for Jlo, she is so pretty. Her husband jumped ship pretty quick. lol.

I am praying for Cassie, But she was 19 years old when she began a relationship with Diddy. She was not a minor. 

 

 

[Troy]

2 hours ago, Chevdove said:

Diddy is rough, I get it, but he is not a monster like they are saying. 

 

Did you see the video of Puffy (in his 50s) kicking that girl (age 19) while she was down on the ground -- for having the nerve to try to escape?  After the alleged incident he said he was innocent and accused the girl of trying to get paid.  When the video came out, he then apologized.

 

Ignoring everything else, does this behavior make Puffy a monster? Yeah, in my book it does. If it were your daughter, I'd bet you'd agree. How should he be punished for that? I dunno...

 

I hate to log into Youtube now you have no choice but to view all the gossip.  I'm seriously considering downloading all of my videos and serving them directly from my server.  Every reason for me for using YouTube in the first place is moot now.   I just have to figure out how to redirect all of the links I have created...

 

3 hours ago, Chevdove said:

He said that he came all the way up from Georgia to be there.

 

Yeah, he lives in ATL. I met him right after he was released, I guess about 20 years ago.  I always said he was the hardest working man in publishing. He is very smart and willing to go out on a limb and do things most of us would be too self-conscious to do.  The photo on his page was n my home office in Harlem.

 

@Chevdove I respect your opinion on Black girls. They can be rough -- especially on each other.

 

 

[ProfD]

6 hours ago, Chevdove said:

OOOoooh! Okay @ProfD keep your comment in mind about these two young men when I post your next comment and respond!!! 

 

America isn't forcing Black women to have children to raise by themselves. We need some personal responsibility and accountability. A little family planning goes a long way too.

 

Is there some bias here!? ...I believe that many Black girls become single mothers at about the same age as Justin Beiber and Usher when they went to Diddy camp!!! So why are you blaming 'Black women' for being single and having children as being a 'personal responsibility and holding them accountable' and not suggesting the same scrutiny against the 'two young boys' Beiber and Usher?

No bias.  My points were:

 

1) America isn't responsible for Black women getting pregnant.

2) What kind of parent allows their child to go to Diddy camp?

 

It's similar to the R. Kelly situation.  Some of of the parents knew their daughters were with him.  Yet, they did nothing to get them back.  In fact, some of the parents even took money and remained silent.

 

 

6 hours ago, Chevdove said:

Most Black girls are being victimized but they don't know this and are being persecuted wrongfully and usually, the attack comes from not only White America, but Blacks.

Where are their parents?

 

6 hours ago, Chevdove said:

Many times these young black girls are being attacked by their own mothers and left to cope with pregnancy under this kind of discrimination.

Why did the Black girl get pregnant?

 

6 hours ago, Chevdove said:

My mother hated me intensely and made me feel completely ugly and rejected...

Therein lies the reason everyone isn't qualified to be a parent.  No reason or excuse that a child should be hated by the people who created them.

 

 

6 hours ago, Chevdove said:

My father and uncles would have killed me, so I thought, if I became to wild, my father would kill me.

That level of discipline is missing in most dysfunctional situations.

 

6 hours ago, Chevdove said:

I can see the hell that young girls are faced with if they come from broken families. 

The question is why are the families broken.

 

6 hours ago, Chevdove said:

So no, I do feel that America has a lot to do with broken Black families and single black motherhood and one income families and I do believe it started back during chattel slavery times. I am rigid on that belief. 

I'm waiting to read how America is still responsible for broken Black families. 

 

Like every other group of people, Black folks make a decision to bump and grind and get pregnant. 

 

Nobody is forcing Black folks to break up after the fun is done. 

 

Black parents can follow Al Green's lead and "let's stay together". 

[Chevdove]

11 hours ago, Troy said:

Did you see the video of Puffy (in his 50s) kicking that girl (age 19) while she was down on the ground -- for having the nerve to try to escape?  After the alleged incident he said he was innocent and accused the girl of trying to get paid.  When the video came out, he then apologized.

 

Ignoring everything else, does this behavior make Puffy a monster? Yeah, in my book it does. If it were your daughter, I'd bet you'd agree. How should he be punished for that? I dunno...

 

Yes, this brings to mind Jennifer Lopez's mother. She did not want her to be with Diddy at all. When Wendy Williams ask Jennifer if she would get back with Diddy, her mother was in the audience and she was definitely disgusted!

 

So yes, Diddy did much more damage to women than just Cassie and for that, he is a monster, but I did not hear that kind of verbal attack about other recent male behaviors in that same tone. Like one brother said on Piers Morgan interview, Hugh Hefner went to his grave with a smile on his face. 

 

I've watched interviews with Jaguar Wright and she really does a good job of revealing the dark side of Puffy and Clive Davis. 

Right after Whitney Houston died, Jaguar said that Puffy left Uptown Records right around that time and made it big with his own label. 

She also said that Whitney's daughter's death and Kim Porter's death was strangely similar.

 

But again, it seems that there is not much said about Clive Davis, even though after he helped Puff with his fame, he divorced his second wife around that time and soon  announced publicly that he was Bisexual. So some reporters think that sexual favors were done. The prosecutor says that after 2015, about 50% of accusers against Puff were males. But my only concern is if minors were molested. That to me would define a monster. 

 

I still believe that it is strange that Black people don't seem to highlight how vulnerable Black children are due to a high percentage of them coming from single parent homes. 

 

[Chevdove]

7 hours ago, ProfD said:

It's similar to the R. Kelly situation.  Some of of the parents knew their daughters were with him.  Yet, they did nothing to get them back.  In fact, some of the parents even took money and remained silent.

 

That is so sad.

 

7 hours ago, ProfD said:

Therein lies the reason everyone isn't qualified to be a parent.  No reason or excuse that a child should be hated by the people who created them.

 

For sure! I believe though, that in the Black culture, this goes back to how Black women and girls were conditioned from slavery times. Many of them submitted to sex to survive but came to resent their offspring because it reminded them of the male they submitted too even though they hated them. My mother hated my father and I look just like him! So this is why she hated me and my relatives always reminded me of that but did little to help me or her deal with her hatred against me. 

 

7 hours ago, ProfD said:

I'm waiting to read how America is still responsible for broken Black families. 

 

Like every other group of people, Black folks make a decision to bump and grind and get pregnant. 

 

Nobody is forcing Black folks to break up after the fun is done. 

 

Black parents can follow Al Green's lead and "let's stay together". 

 

Although I have outlined the very reasons why broken families is a serious issue that stems from slavery, you don't seem to hear or understand my explanation so I will add on a little more about my personal story.

 

My mother's mother, maternal grandmother, endured some of the very hardship that I did and this obviously had a bearing on my mother. 

My maternal grandmother, a Tuscaroran/East Indian woman, was loathed by her mother and suffered like I did. She married to get out of that situation and then influenced my mother. 

 

Her mother, my maternal great grandmother, a Tuscaroran woman, was stolen and put on slave yard with a slave family and this is obvious in the federal census as her name was different from the slave family that she was placed with. Broken family. She married an East Indian man, my great grandfather, and had a lot of resentment against her daughter, for some strange reason. My grandmother. 

 

My grandmother married a man that she felt she had to because she was afraid of not getting married and was about to be known as an old maid. So, she did not marry for love but remained married until her death and had my mother. So my mother obviously did the same thing. My mother was extremely abusive and this continued on into my marriage in the worse possible way that can be imagined. However, I love my husband but my mother was angry with me for my choice in marriage. I was so glad to marry though to get away from her. 
 

My mother's father, my paternal grandfather, came from a slave 'girl'!!! Broken family. And there is a lot of drama in this story too. So @ProfD there is a theme here! I am not the only one to have this kind of background. It is cultural.

 

I just listen to the life story of Jaguar Wright, and it is spell bounding! She tells a very eerily similar background story that I have just shared! 

She have birth around the age of 15!

She was NOT a woman, she was a teenager. I don't understand why you cannot see that she should not be held responsible for this. 

Her mother too, was molested by a family member and gave birth prior to her birth. 

Her grandparents hated each other yet they remained married but the story is crazy ridiculous even though she had me LMAO! 

 

[ProfD]

2 hours ago, Chevdove said:

Although I have outlined the very reasons why broken families is a serious issue that stems from slavery, you don't seem to hear or understand my explanation so I will add on a little more about my personal story.

I totally understand your explanation especially from a personal perspective. 

 

Again, the point I'm making is that the cycle can be broken.

 

Especially in this millennium, a Black teenager or woman doesn't have to give birth to children.

 

In fact, many Black females choose not to procreate for the very reasons you've outlined above.

 

Broken people definitely should not be procreating and potentially passing that negative energy off into another person.

 

Same goes for rape and incest. Definitely not a good situation for procreation. 

 

The breeding process during chattle slavery was brutal and dehumanizing. Black folks might have some form of genetic PTSD (post traumatic stress disorder) as a result.

 

However, as long as Black folks have contol over their own minds and bodies, they can decide whether or not they want to procreate leading to broken families and dysfunctional offspring.

[Chevdove]

 

 

 

 

5 hours ago, ProfD said:

Again, the point I'm making is that the cycle can be broken.

 

Especially in this millennium, a Black teenager or woman doesn't have to give birth to children.

 

 

Okay, I think I understand what you are saying about this. You seem to allude to 'planned parenting' meaning that a 15 year old can get an abortion?

If that is what you are alluding to, then, I still believe that is not going to stop the cycle when a mother of a 15 year old rape victim forces her to get  an abortion.

 

And, I do think about Cassandra Ventura when this issue comes to mind and a lot of the females that Diddy had sex with. He has six (6) children that he claims, but Cassie was in a relationship with Diddy for about 10 years and so, as you say, she probably prevented giving birth by doing certain measures to assure that. However, this kind of behavior may not be an easy option for dark skinned Black girls. Even though, I heard how 'planned parenting' sites have been set up in Black communities to help Black girls like Jaguar Wright have abortions when they are victimized, still like Jaguar, who says that she had six (6) children, her fate kind of was dependent on her mother helping her and this is where the problem with black girls seems to rest. 

 

5 hours ago, ProfD said:

n fact, many Black females choose not to procreate for the very reasons you've outlined above.

 

Broken people definitely should not be procreating and potentially passing that negative energy off into another person.

 

Same goes for rape and incest. Definitely not a good situation for procreation. 

 

Again, for most black girls, unlike Cassie, they do not have a choice whether or not they choose to procreate and this is why I say that Broken families among our black culture stems from slavery and the broken families during those times. This cycle is not broken because the same issues still remain and have continued when it comes to black mothers in how they react to their teenage daughters. For example, when Jaguar told her mother that she was raped when she was about 14 or 15 years old, her mother controlled that narrative. And usually, these black mothers blame the daughters for being victimized. This mother-daughter relationship is a cycle that stems from slavery. 

 

Most black mothers were victimized too, when they were young and so, they treat their daughters in the same way that they were 'blamed' for being victimized. 

5 hours ago, ProfD said:

The breeding process during chattle slavery was brutal and dehumanizing. Black folks might have some form of genetic PTSD (post traumatic stress disorder) as a result.

 

However, as long as Black folks have contol over their own minds and bodies, they can decide whether or not they want to procreate leading to broken families and dysfunctional offspring.

 

Yes, i agree, but I think that maybe, because you are male, it is difficult for you to understand that black females today, are pretty much in the same predicament as in the past. It has not changed for many of us. I have been told that I show signs of PTSD and I think that it is possible. I still feel the same horror of what my mother has done to me right now, everyday. I feel a lot of anxiety when I am approached by males. During slavery times, young black girls were encouraged by their mothers to submit to males and then they will turn right around and call their daughters whores and sh*t like that. This type of behavior still occurs right now today. Many times, black mothers and other black women in the community will compete with their daughters for attention from males and I remember seeing this type of behavior in a film produced by Ice Cube! I remember when my husband told me that my mother was doing something strange when she had come over to help, one day, when we were moving into a new apartment. I got mad at him because i thought he was crazy and stupid for thinking that, but years later, I realized that i was in denial because I was so dependent on my mother for her love and acknowledgement and could not see that she was dysfunctional. 

 

Most young black girls do not have control over their own minds and bodies today. They are encouraged to be older than they are suppose to be and engage in sex and they are blamed but it is not their decision when they are young.  

 

 

[ProfD]

25 minutes ago, Chevdove said:

Okay, I think I understand what you are saying about this. You seem to allude to 'planned parenting' meaning that a 15 year old can get an abortion?

 Not abortion. Birth control. Abstinence.  

25 minutes ago, Chevdove said:

If that is what you are alluding to, then, I still believe that is not going to stop the cycle when a mother of a 15 year old rape victim forces her to get  an abortion.

We need to make the punishment for rape so severe on the perpetrators to discourage it.

 

The village needs to do a better job in taking care of children especially those who come from unfortunate circumstances. 

 

25 minutes ago, Chevdove said:

However, this kind of behavior may not be an easy option for dark skinned Black girls.

Dark-skinned Black girls should not be treated differently. 

25 minutes ago, Chevdove said:

Even though, I heard how 'planned parenting' sites have been set up in Black communities to help Black girls...

Planned parenthood isn't just abortions. They hand out birth control too.

 

25 minutes ago, Chevdove said:

And usually, these black mothers blame the daughters for being victimized. This mother-daughter relationship is a cycle that stems from slavery. 

What are we doing to correct that level of dysfunction?

 

25 minutes ago, Chevdove said:

Yes, i agree, but I think that maybe, because you are male, it is difficult for you to understand that black females today, are pretty much in the same predicament as in the past.

My gender doesn't prevent me from understanding your argument.

 

My point is that nobody's forcing people to have s8x and other behaviors and create these dysfunctional situations.

 

When a Black man robs a bank or kills someone, the law isn’t going to consider slavery or his race or upbringing when it comes to putting him in prison.

 

Just consider what I mentioned about personal responsibility and accountability. We seem to conveniently pick and choose when to be obedient and restrained in our actions.

 

 

25 minutes ago, Chevdove said:

Most young black girls do not have control over their own minds and bodies today. They are encouraged to be older than they are suppose to be and engage in sex and they are blamed but it is not their decision when they are young. 

Again, that's something we can correct as a village. We can do a better job of instilling morals and values and disciplining those who get out of line. 

 

The real problem is that nobody wants to lead the effort. Part of the reason is resistance from our people.

[Chevdove]

 

 

 

 

 

31 minutes ago, ProfD said:

Again, that's something we can correct as a village. We can do a better job of instilling morals and values and disciplining those who get out of line. 

 

The real problem is that nobody wants to lead the effort. Part of the reason is resistance from our people.

 

 

In my case, I think that my mother got away with what she did for several reasons. One major reason has to do with Black Americans are forced to accept 

 

Matriarchal Domination.

 

No one questions the acts of the Matriarch. No one. And again, this stems from slavery times when the slave yard mammy call the shots. She picked out the kids that were to be sold away. Slave girls were selected by her to go into the overseers cabin, etc. It is a sacred position and Black people seems to automatically see this type of Black woman as so supreme you would not dare question her behaviors whether good or bad. 

 

Years later, the court Guardian ad litem, apologized to me because he said, he just accepted that my mother could not possibly be wrong. Motherhood is a sacred position. But is has been a smoke screen for many bad behaviors that go undetected because no one would dare question a powerful black or 'ethnically blackish' woman who goes against her daughter, etc. 

 

After 3 years, and because I dropped the black attorney and got a White attorney, the case was broken and the cover up was revealed. I got a news station to cover my story and the judge, a black woman who was my mother's friend, and who hated black men was revealed. She was a family court judge, but has never been married and has no children. She hated me because I married my husband, a black man. Even though after 3 years, she had never supenoed the pediatrician records, she seized my two black sons, on a false allegation put against my husband. She appointed a court appointed doctor(s), White men, who lied against me but I exposed them. I was forced to submit to a black judge in both the lower family court and the circuit court. I finally got rid of the judge's choice in a White man who was the court guardian ad litem and after 2 years, they assigned an older black man of whom had been a retired judge for 30 years in Chicago. He apologized to me after the case was broken and he was so hurt that he did not recognize the cover up. 

 

That is why I do respect the Protestant movement. Black people have too much hate against each other, and unfortunately, we do need help in how to love and respect each other. It's like a catch-22. Some Black people are obsessed with White Supremacy and would rather exist under this environment, therefore, it took White domination and some  White people under this government to have to put a check on those very kind of Negroes! Some black people have no respect for other Black people. 

 

[ProfD]

7 hours ago, Chevdove said:

Black people have too much hate against each other, and unfortunately, we do need help in how to love and respect each other.

Facts. Our biggest hurdle to cross. Once we solve that problem, everything else we're discussing will become easier to fix. Might take another generation.

[Troy]

7 hours ago, Chevdove said:

She picked out the kids that were to be sold away. Slave girls were selected by her to go into the overseers cabin, etc.

Where did you learn this @Chevdove?

 

 

[Pioneer1]

On 10/10/2024 at 5:53 PM, Chevdove said:

 

Oh absolutely. That is what I've heard. 

I am not happy about how they took down Diddy though. If he is a monster then, yes, get him. But why stock him for all of these years?

There are so many White people lashing out at him, it makes me so angry. 

They are attacking his mother! She is 83 years old. 

Hasn't she suffered enough!? She has to look after her grandchildren now. 

America is so sick and racist. 

 

That's one of the reasons I find their attack against him so disgusting and suspicious.

I believe they are going after him for 3 major reasons:

1. Revenge.
He recently sued and WON a law suit against Diageo which is a multi-billion dollar liquor company and they are angry that he was able to use their own system against them.

2. What he represents.
Which is not only Black wealth but FLASHY and FLAMBOYANT Black wealth.
Most White people...especially White men...don't like it when Black men display that type of "in your face" attitude with their wealth.
That's why Floyd Mayweather better watch out!

3. It's part of a greater plan to go after prominent and wealthy Black men IN GENERAL lately.
When they went after Bill Cosby and nobody did anything about it, they saw that as an opening to go after more Black celebrities.

By "they" I mean the racists in the criminal justice system.
There are plenty of good NON-RACIST people in that system as well, but if they sit back and allow the racists to do their thing....then what????

[ProfD]

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

That's one of the reasons I find their attack against him so disgusting and suspicious.

Hopefully Diddy isn't guilty of anything and this whole exercise is just a misunderstanding.

[Chevdove]

17 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

That's one of the reasons I find their attack against him so disgusting and suspicious.

 

Yes! And I know I will end up sounding like 'a broken record' but my beef with America is how 'they' exploit Black children. 

And, they are on the attack against black males with their homosexual movement, and don't get me wrong, I am not against people being homosexuals.

I am against this American movement that deliberately introduce homosexuality to young Black boys that they know many of them are raised by single 

Black mothers, young mothers. 

 

I wouldn't be surprised if Diddy had done criminal behavior. I believe @ProfD in that if he did the crime, he needs to do the time, but I also believe

Ice Cube in that they targeted him. They set him up. 

 

Most of the brothas speak about Diddy and in how they respond to him and it cracks me up, but racist people are attacking and alleging things that I do not hear coming from Black men. Jaguar Wright is 'off the chain'!!! But, she may be telling the truth from a female victim perspective. She's been hurt. Man! Some of the things she's said that went on at those parties are horrific. But again, yall need to listen to the difference in how Black men speak about Diddy versus White America. It's crazy!

 

They're talking about his mother! WTF. I'm sorry. Please excuse me. She said that she was completely against him for what he did to Cassie. I know how arrogant my sons can get with me. Women cannot stop their adult sons, like a man can. I remember Dr. Phil show once, when a son was shouting at his mother. he stood over her and was taller than her. After a few minutes, Dr. Phil stood up and went at him and dared him to disrespect his mother. LOL. That things was too funny. 

 

 

14 hours ago, ProfD said:

Hopefully Diddy isn't guilty of anything and this whole exercise is just a misunderstanding.

 

  Come on! 

 

 

 

On 10/12/2024 at 10:30 PM, Troy said:

Where did you learn this @Chevdove?

 

Well, it's been years since I dove into this subject. I have to get in the mood to take it on.

 

 

On 10/12/2024 at 10:30 PM, Troy said:

On 10/12/2024 at 2:56 PM, Chevdove said:

She picked out the kids that were to be sold away. Slave girls were selected by her to go into the overseers cabin, etc.

Where did you learn this @Chevdove?

 

 

 

But off the top of my head, one source was Frederick Douglass.

 

He wrote about how the designated slave woman would be the one selected to pick out the slave children to be sold away. 

 

And I read that more than once, but just can't remember right now. 

 

 

 

Many times, it was a slave mother that actually forced her own daughter to be subjected to rape. 

 

 

[aka Contrarian]

I've heard that back during the hey day of  Hollywood's  motion picture industry,  white "stage mothers" were not above encouraging their young daughters to "be nice" to the studio moguls and movie stars.  e.g. It was said to be common knowledge that Kirk Douglas "raped"  teen-age starlet Natalie Wood as a result of this practice.

And also, that bi-sexuality was rampant among a lot of Hollywood's leading men.

Currently, there is a move underway to release the Menendez brothers who have served 35 years for slaying their parents  because of allegedly being molested by their own father was what drove them to commit murder!

There is no limit to how low sexual predators, fueled by their positions of power will stoop because  this, combined with great wealth, can bring out the worst in the male animal,  - making idle time the playground of the devil!

PLAYBOY's Hugh Hefner's  mansion was also reputed to be a bastion of ongoing orgies involving ambitious female nymphets. 

DIddy probably did what he did simply because he could do what he did. He was drunk with power!

None of thris is new. It dates back to the biblical references about Sodom and Gomorrah. Not to mention the Roman Catholic Church.  Hail Mary!

                     zzzzzzzzz

[ProfD]

@aka Contrarian is spot on in Hollywood being the equivalent of Sodom and Gomorrah for over a half-century.

 

It applies to many folks in the entertainment industry at large. 

 

These people within the music and movie business have been doing strange thangs for change or deals or less forever.

 

Then, there's the groupies who want to hang around the rich and famous by any means necessary. They're willing to do all types of sh8t for FREE.

 

The reason so many folks are silent about Diddy's parties is because they don't want to implicate themselves. 

 

Hugh Hefner is a great example of  DIddy's parties normalized. Hefner openly displayed that his home was the amusement park of decadence.

 

Again, DIddy p8ssed off the wrong people. They're threatening to call in the markers unless he decides to make a deal.

[Pioneer1]

@Chevdove

Well.....

Perhaps this may NOT come as a surprise to ProfD  but it may come as one to you, but my concerns about Puffy's "freak off" parties are NOT over any homosexual behavior that may have taken place at them.
....although those accusations ARE quite disappointing, that an icon like Puffy would sponsor such "sissified" behavior.

Infact.....I REALLY don't like that he changed his name to "P Diddy"...which sounds weird and weak.

One of the reasons I continue to call him Puffy...lol

However, I'd only oppose:
1. Any sexual activity involving underaged people
2. Any non-consensual sexual activities like rape or drugging people.

Other than that, as long as it's between consenting adults...I have no problems with it socially.
I may not PERSONALLY engage in or enjoy certain behaviors that he probably had at his party, but I'd allow it.
 

Although I do believe that there IS an agenda by the Racists to promote homosexuality and other forms of "non-reproductive" sex on the AfroAmerican community in order to lower our birth-rate, I still believe that some people are born pre-disposed to be homosexual or bisexual.
Until we can actually "cure" them, I have decided to accept that some people are simply that way.

 

[ProfD]

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

@Chevdove
 

 

 

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Perhaps this may NOT come as a surprise to ProfD....

 

Other than that, as long as it's between consenting adults...I have no problems with it socially.

No surprise. I agree that consenting adults should do their thing.

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

I still believe that some people are born pre-disposed to be homosexual or bisexual.

Until we can actually "cure" them, I have decided to accept that some people are simply that 

Well, considering that it's been in practice for thousands of years, there's no cure for it.

[Pioneer1]

1 hour ago, ProfD said:

 

 

No surprise. I agree that consenting adults should do their thing.

Well, considering that it's been in practice for thousands of years, there's no cure for it.

My position on homosexuality and bisexuality has evolved over the decades, especially as I've moved away from organized religion and Caucasian based ethics and morals.

I realize that something can be abnormal yet natural at the same time.

[ProfD]

15 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

My position on homosexuality and bisexuality has evolved over the decades...

I realize that something can be abnormal yet natural at the same time.

It's normal for us to change some of our beliefs, thoughts and opinions as we get get older. Sometimes, knowledge and understanding brings wisdom. 

 

Since I've always believed people should live and let live as long as they're not causing harm to others, their preferences has never mattered to me.

[Chevdove]

On 10/20/2024 at 7:57 AM, Pioneer1 said:

....although those accusations ARE quite disappointing, that an icon like Puffy would sponsor such "sissified" behavior.

 

LOL. Yeah, Wendy Williams coined the phrase homo thug! But she was hit hard for saying that until now. 

But to each is his own, imo. I don't have issues with that choice, but I do have a serious issue with pedophiles.

 

 

 

 

On 10/20/2024 at 7:57 AM, Pioneer1 said:

Although I do believe that there IS an agenda by the Racists to promote homosexuality and other forms of "non-reproductive" sex on the AfroAmerican community in order to lower our birth-rate, ... 

 

Yes, and what bothers me is the cover up of what happened to little boys and girls during slavery time.

They had NO VOICE! That bothers me a lot because we are still affected by that today.

 

 

[ProfD]

Now, Brandy's little brother Ray J is running around giving interviews about the foolish that goes on behind the scenes within the entertainment industry. 

 

Ray J hasn't dropped any names yet but claims that he has receipts.  His interviews are cringe-worthy to the extent that he's all over the place.

[Chevdove]

Really!?

 

I do not trust him at all! After what I've heard about him with regards to the death of Whitney Houston, I think that he know a lot though.

 

From what I've heard it was Ray J, who I think is Brandy's brother, that was present the day when Whitney was found dead in her bathtub in the hotel.

I've heard that Clive Davis was also in the hotel on this day too! In fact, I was shocked to learn that it was Clive Davis that had a lot to do with Whitney becoming famous. 

However, I also heard that there is some dark stories behind her death too of which some is connecting to the rise and popularity of PDiddy!

 

It seems that Clive Davis eventually bonded with Diddy and signed him and put up money for him to make it big in the Rap industry. Around this time in the 1990s, Diddy was fired from Uptown Records and was picked up by Clive Davis. At the time of Whitney's death, she had came back from Kazakhstan and was to perform in that hotel. A few hours or day before the performance, she was filmed along with Brandy and Clive Davis. Whitney walked up to Clive and hugged him and then she walked over to Brandy who was seated next to Clive Davis. Whitney handed Brandy a note and this was filmed the day before she died!!! 

 

In that very film, the day before Whitney died, you can hear her say, clearly, that she had almost drowned in her bathtub!!!

Then the next day she was dead. No one knows what was in that note she passed to Brandy.

 

On the night after she was pronounced dead in the hotel, Clive Davis did not cancel the gala but the show went on. And many people question his decision to hold a huge event even though Whitney's body was perhaps still in the hotel!

 

Bobby Brown's sister said that Whitney had gash marks all over her torso. Some question her death of which was said to be a drowning due to her having a lot of drugs in her system. At any rate, some believe that after Whitney's death, soon the Rap industry gained support from Clive Davis who was a close business partner with Diddy. 

This is some scary news. 

 

And about two years later or so, i think 2015, Whitney's daughter is also found dead. It was said that she was diagnosed with some kind of pneumonia which was similar to the diagnosis of Kim Porter whose death some say is suspect. Kim Porter is Diddy's son's mother. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Chevdove]

 

Here it is!!! The Picture of the very interview where Whitney Houston hands a mystery note to Brandy, then she turns around and says that she almost drowned in her bathtub!!!

She was dead the next day after this interview!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here's some more about that interview with Brandy!

 

 

 

 

[ProfD]

The entertainment industry is modern day Sodom amd Gomorrah.

 

A famous quote from writer Hunter S. Thompson reads "the music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side."

 

Nothing is a surprise when it comes to s8x, drugs, money and murder in the entertainment industry.

[Pioneer1]

 

Oh boy...........they done finally got around to him.

Now they got Jay Z caught up in some shit too.

It was only a matter of time.


Nas...be careful mayne.

[ProfD]

Texas-based personal injury lawyer Tony Buzbee is the white man responsible for filing these 'Jane Doe' lawsuits against Black celebrities.