Troy Posted June 23 Report Posted June 23 Gunfire erupted during Tulsa’s Juneteenth celebration, leaving one dead and multiple victims in critical condition. The Black Wall Street Times Jun 23 Today, I was traumatized by having to relive the stories of Saturday’s tragedy. I had to co-author and edit a mass shooting story that hit home—my own family and community were there. It happened Saturday night during Tulsa’s annual Juneteenth celebration in the historic Greenwood District—Black Wall Street. First came the frantic calls and texts from family members: “Where are you?” “Are you okay?” The Greenwood District in Tulsa, Oklahoma, on Saturday, June 21, 2025. Tulsa police officers lined the streets after a mass shooting left one person dead and several others injured, some critically. Then came the video footage—faces I know, my own family and neighbors, lying flat on the ground as gunshots rang out and people ran for their lives. For hours, I sat with crushing anxiety, praying none of them had been hit. We still don’t know the full list of victims. We still don’t know who pulled the trigger. Our own Black Wall Street Times interns were at the event. I later found out that one of them was just 25 feet from the gunfire. I kept asking myself—what if one of them had been shot? What if it had been our reporter or our photographer? What would I have told their families? That’s a call I pray I never have to make. We have to do better—to protect our communities and report our stories with the urgency they deserve. Click here to read the full article.
ProfD Posted June 23 Report Posted June 23 Such an unfortunate situation for gun-fire to erupt at a Juneteenth celebration or anywhere else. I hope the shooting did not stem from the gang violence out there in Tulsa. Black folks can only rely on police solve our issues up to a point. The police aren't going to do any more than they're getting paid to do to solve the *problems* (gangs, crime, drugs, etc.). At some point, communities have to step up to plate to eliminate the societal ills plaguing them. Solving problems starts with parents and family members and extends out to the village. Parents should be 1st line of defense in keeping their offspring from becoming a menace to society.
Troy Posted June 25 Author Report Posted June 25 I attended this very event in 2021, the 100th anniversary of the massacre. Judging by the photo every on-duty officer must have been on the scene. One thing that is not mentioned very much is the adverse impact of the elevated highway that cut through Black Wall Street after it was rebuilt. This scenario has been repeated all over the country. I understand there is talk about getting rid of that highway.
Pioneer1 Posted June 26 Report Posted June 26 Perhaps the media is "ignoring" it because only one person got killed. As sad as it is.....especially for that one person and their loved ones....shootings have become so common that unless it involves MULTIPLE deaths...it barely makes the news at all. 1
Chevdove Posted July 3 Report Posted July 3 This is very sad. Where I live, the Juneteenth festival was held a week earlier and I wonder now, it is to deter this possibility. Also, this past June 28, it seems all of a sudden, Americans are having a renewed burst of festivals. a few weeks later after the Juneteenth festival was held on June 7, on the same fair grounds, the American festival for Independence Day, July 4th was held. But unlike the Juneteenth festival, however, the parking lots were completely filled up. Even though this American festival is the 4th of July, it is called FREEDOM FESTIVAL. And different cultural booths were featured from India, Jamaica, Mexico, etc. It's as if the Juneteenth Festival insignificant.
Pioneer1 Posted July 5 Report Posted July 5 On 7/3/2025 at 7:43 PM, Chevdove said: it seems all of a sudden, Americans are having a renewed burst of festivals. a few weeks later after the Juneteenth festival was held on June 7, on the same fair grounds, the American festival for Independence Day, July 4th was held. But unlike the Juneteenth festival, however, the parking lots were completely filled up. Even though this American festival is the 4th of July, it is called FREEDOM FESTIVAL. And different cultural booths were featured from India, Jamaica, Mexico, etc. It's as if the Juneteenth Festival insignificant. I've noticed similar events..... It seems as if several things are going on in this society and major shifts are taking place. A lot of Americans...especially younger Americans....who should be out working and making a living for themselves, their families, and solving their problems....are actually just IGNORING their responsibilities, partying, and "living their best lives" before dying for one reason or another. They've given up and have resorted to having as much fun as they can before the bottom drops out. Partying and having a good time this week....dead or locked up next month. They no longer care or look to their future. But another situation is that society is so full of immigrants and they're making money and taking advantage of as much as they can in America. They too are partying and making money and enjoying themselves and taking advantage of the FREEDOM that allows them to not only make money but attend events that formerly were strictly for Americans....and just take over. In most other nations, national events are for THAT nationality...other ethnicities for the most part aren't welcomed and de facto not allowed to participate. In America in most public events...this isn't legally allowed. Many immigrants know this and take advantage of the fact that they can attend nearly ANY public party or event...so they come in large crowds and essentially take over sections of it but then impose THEIR OWN forms of intolerance in those events blocking other nationalities and ethnicities from attending them. Do you understand what I'm saying? Does it make sense to you? 1
ProfD Posted July 6 Report Posted July 6 11 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: In America in most public events...this isn't legally allowed. Many immigrants know this and take advantage of the fact that they can attend nearly ANY public party or event...so they come in large crowds and essentially take over sections of it but then impose THEIR OWN forms of intolerance in those events blocking other nationalities and ethnicities from attending them. I haven't seen immigrants or foreigners show up and take over a Black event around these parts.
harry brown Posted July 8 Report Posted July 8 There. Was. Gun. Violence. 4th. Of. July. Weekend. In. Chicago. ..I. Think. 4. Dead. Some. Wounded. ...Why. Is. Black. Street. Gangs. Not. Domestic. Terrorist. ?.Will. The. Lunatic in The. White. House ,,Have. His. ICE. Thugs. In. Chicago. ?.Black. Violence. On. Juneteenth Day. There. Was. Violence. On. Juneteenth Day. Last. Year. ......Racist. White. Dumping. Out. Guns. And. Drugs. In. Black. Inner. City. Communities. For. Black. Genocide. ....
ProfD Posted July 8 Report Posted July 8 Shootings in Chi-town left 12 dead and 65 injured. In Philly, a shootout caught on a Ring cam left 3 dead and several injured. Gun violence in Black communities cannot be solved by police or government. This is a problem Black men need to solve. It starts with handling their offspring. 1
Chevdove Posted July 8 Report Posted July 8 On 7/5/2025 at 8:35 AM, Pioneer1 said: In most other nations, national events are for THAT nationality...other ethnicities for the most part aren't welcomed and de facto not allowed to participate. In America in most public events...this isn't legally allowed. Many immigrants know this and take advantage of the fact that they can attend nearly ANY public party or event...so they come in large crowds and essentially take over sections of it but then impose THEIR OWN forms of intolerance in those events blocking other nationalities and ethnicities from attending them. Do you understand what I'm saying? Does it make sense to you? Yes, I understand what you are saying and I believe you. That is the feeling that seemed to be the theme in this recent festival. But, the reality that bothers me is that these kind of cultural hypes are also extremely false too and it seems that America is deliberately inviting these kind of events to try and erase the real truth. Let me give an example of why this is really bad; When it comes to some of the Mexican festivals, Americans know that the Mayans and other Black-Negro natives are the beginning of these cultural practices and that the Mayans were violently attacked on a genocidal scale and that the Mexicans were given credit for such things as Mexican food and Corn festivals, etc. But in these modern times, America is continuing with this kind of movement of erasing the history of the Mayans. I am not saying though, that the Mayans were peaceful Indians and I am not talking about their culture, whether good or evil, but I am only addressing the issue that the Europeans came over here, tricked the Mayans into accepting them and then they secretly conspired with the Mexcans to genocide the Mayans and redefine ancient American history by images of Mayans looking like Mexican people today. That is what I am saying and this is true for other immigrant cultural identities too. It's insane. Mexican people didn't even come over hear to America until after the Bubonic Plague in Eurasia; that late in time. The Aztecas were immigrants themselves and came over here from Europe in the AD 1300s after the Black Death Plague occurred and they migrated down from Wisconsin into Mexico and then the Mayans and so many other 'Negro' American Indians were attacked their history wiped out. 7 hours ago, harry brown said: .Racist. White. Dumping. Out. Guns. And. Drugs. In. Black. Inner. City. Communities. For. Black. Genocide. .... Oh Wow. This is depressing. 6 hours ago, ProfD said: Gun violence in Black communities cannot be solved by police or government. This is a problem Black men need to solve. It starts with handling their offspring. That's seems to be a Pipe dream though. Here in America, we will always be undercut by a movement whereby racist White organizations continue to support the kind of Black people that serve the American purpose of White domination. Unfortunately, those kind of Black Americans are the majority and they will never allow a minority movement of Black men to organize and stop Black-on-Black violence. I am not saying that there should NOT be a solid effort though to combat it. I think that Black people should support Black Love and Respect always.
ProfD Posted July 8 Report Posted July 8 2 hours ago, Chevdove said: Yes, I understand what you are saying and I believe you. That is the feeling that seemed to be the theme in this recent festival. But, the reality that bothers me is that these kind of cultural hypes are also extremely false too and it seems that America is deliberately inviting these kind of events to try and erase the real truth. Let me give an example of why this is really bad; When it comes to some of the Mexican festivals, Americans know that the Mayans and other Black-Negro natives are the beginning of these cultural practices and that the Mayans were violently attacked on a genocidal scale and that the Mexicans were given credit for such things as Mexican food and Corn festivals, etc. But in these modern times, America is continuing with this kind of movement of erasing the history of the Mayans. I am not saying though, that the Mayans were peaceful Indians and I am not talking about their culture, whether good or evil, but I am only addressing the issue that the Europeans came over here, tricked the Mayans into accepting them and then they secretly conspired with the Mexcans to genocide the Mayans and redefine ancient American history by images of Mayans looking like Mexican people today. That is what I am saying and this is true for other immigrant cultural identities too. It's insane. Mexican people didn't even come over hear to America until after the Bubonic Plague in Eurasia; that late in time. The Aztecas were immigrants themselves and came over here from Europe in the AD 1300s after the Black Death Plague occurred and they migrated down from Wisconsin into Mexico and then the Mayans and so many other 'Negro' American Indians were attacked their history wiped out. Oh Wow. This is depressing. That's seems to be a Pipe dream though. I am not saying that there should NOT be a solid effort though to combat it. I think that Black people should support Black Love and Respect always. Black fathers handling their childen through love and discipline early in life will make 1) sons less violent towards each and redirected towards the real enemy, 2) teach daughters how they should be treated by men and 3) foster fewer single-patent households. It only seems like a pipe dream because over the past half-century and counting, Black families have become more fractured. That has led to young people joining and forming gangs amd crews to feel like they belong to a family. That life leads to all types of dysfunction in order to survive...selling drugs, robbery, prostitute and murder.
Pioneer1 Posted July 11 Report Posted July 11 On 7/8/2025 at 5:48 AM, Chevdove said: The Aztecas were immigrants themselves and came over here from Europe in the AD 1300s after the Black Death Plague occurred and they migrated down from Wisconsin into Mexico and then the Mayans and so many other 'Negro' American Indians were attacked their history wiped out. You say Aztecs come from EUROPE????
Chevdove Posted July 11 Report Posted July 11 15 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: You say Aztecs come from EUROPE???? Yes. Absolutely. They migrated during the AD 1300s after the Bubonic Plague which broke out in the AD 1330s. The Black Death Plague or Bubonic Plague started in faraway China and made its' way all over the Eurasian continent. The Azteca fled Europe, I think Portugal, during this time period. Historians say one million of them fled Europe and came to the Americas. Although the AI has now erased that information, there are still MANY published books that record their origins as about a million of them fled Europe due to the Bubonic Plague. The fact that modern source writers cannot ignore proof that they did not organize until AD 1325, or AD 1345 which is obviously after the breakout of the Black Death Plgue reveals this hidden truth of their origins. Some European sources say they came from Southwest America, or California, or that Aztlan was in Wisconsin, etc. but try to hide the truth. When the Aztec people migrated down into South America and Mexico, they did so, because they were violently rejected by the other American Indians that they attempted to settle amongst. They were also violently rejected in Mexico too. Why!? Because they were foreigners and the indigenous peoples had a problem with them just about everywhere they tried to settle.
Pioneer1 Posted July 16 Report Posted July 16 Chev What about the Maya and Inca, do you believe THEY came from elsewhere too? When the Aztec people migrated down into South America and Mexico, they did so, because they were violently rejected by the other American Indians that they attempted to settle amongst. They were also violently rejected in Mexico too. Why!? Because they were foreigners and the indigenous peoples had a problem with them just about everywhere they tried to settle. You're not the first person I heard this from. There are some who teach that the first people of this continent were Black people and that yellowish people we now call Native Americans were Asian types who migrated here but were so filthy in their ways that they kept being driven out from one part of the continent to the next.
Troy Posted July 17 Author Report Posted July 17 Every human came from Africa. When the European arrived in Mexico that destroyed the Aztec civilization, besides the Aztec civilization predated the Bubonic plague by at least 100 years. Same for Incan and the Maya which is MUCH older. If any people impacted these civilizations they were African, as described by Dr. Van Setima.
Pioneer1 Posted July 17 Report Posted July 17 I believe all humans came from Black people, but I'm not convinced that all people came from Africa. The Nation of Islam teaches that we went down INTO Africa, not came out of it. Although I don't believe in all of the teachings, I do believe much of them and this is one of the teachings I do think holds weight. When I study African history and the migration of the tribes, it seems the dominating pattern is people traveling FROM the north TO the south and FROM the east TO the west. Not the other way around much. Actually, I think the "out of Africa" theory.....and it IS just a "theory" because who among us today is old enough to have seen and CONFIRM it as absolute truth????...is actually slightly based in racist evolutionary doctrine.
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