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Astrological Prediction the end of Trump's Presidency


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In direct conjunction with Delano's thread, prediction related to Trump' presidency term in office ending before 2019; and this responder's prediction, based on data and current events, concur.  The ever-expanding economic wealth gap between Blacks and Whites in America is common in all human societies; old as Indian cast systems, is (as argued) today the new American bogyman of radical change that will bring Donald Trump down and usher in a socio-economic destruction we're unable adequately prepare for.

 

White folk will feel a pinch, Blacks will get bitten, harder.

 

Ethnic group distinctions have always existed, autonomously, under a cast system in all human societies since, well, forever. Nothing new under-the-sun and adds nothing new to this discussion. In-as-much as arguing with the 'race' aspect to support certain points removes any clarity making for unfound (questionable) assertions herein. If one does not understand this, one cannot possibly argument any point, herein, intelligibly. 

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I would not use the term "far fetched," for I do not think 45 getting booked out of office is far fetched.  I would however continue to assert that it is unlikely -- certainly before Jan 1st 2019.  45's tweets don't change my position.  

 

White folks have been feeling "the pinch" for sometime which is why they put 45 in office.

 

 

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Indeed, my usage of the word pinch was watered down; a more appropriate word is 'squeezedto near death; threats in the November wind will be a sign of relief; Congress will ultimately conclude. In any-case I do not think they'll wait around for the mid-terms to get DT out. An 'all or nothing' last moment to save the GOP is risky.   

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New allegations Paul Manafort tampered with a witness in the ongoing investigation into his potential crimes could finally get to open-up on Trump's official violations. Witness tampering is the same as jury tempering (I think?) and doesn't require trial or other formal proceedings; just reasonable proof he violated terms of his bail/release and "BAM," 30-180 days in the slammer. I wonder if he can handle 30-180 days living in a controlled environment among all manner of criminals?

 

A desperate Manafort is begging for DT to make a move, save his family legal fees (official pardon) or give him reason to finally cooporate with Muller.

 

Does he really know enough to further incriminate DT; or just crimes concerning himself? The Manafort issue is getting interesting! AGAIN.

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14 minutes ago, Troy said:

I'd be willing to bet he serves his full term.

 

YEP, we've already done that BET; and I'm sure the Black charity of my choice is going to be $50 bucks closer to realizing a needed goal. It won't be until after the November Midterms America can plan on it's future, but too many are afraid November may be too late. That's why some unpopular decisions (impeachment, etc.) will go from the table to dinner plates, last ditch efforts.

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More fuel for GOP fears, reasons to impeach DT if suspected he'll be found guilty of defamation, or tell lies at the deposition. GOP'ers are running scared since last night's primaries.

 

A Manhattan Supreme Court judge on Tuesday ruled that Donald Trump must sit for a seven-hour deposition by Jan. 31, 2019, the New York Post reports.

 

The deposition will occur as part of a defamation brought last year by former “The Apprentice” contestant Summer Zervos, who accused Trump of groping her in 2016. Trump later called the allegation “fiction.”

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Congressional impeachment before November, or mid-term voters at the polls, then impeachment by a Democratic majority in congress; Trump is toast before 2019. It'll be a miracle if he's not out of jail on bail pending trial on the new-year.

 

Foriegn policy and trade appear to be his poison in Congress, dissatisfaction of everything else among voters of all the other parties.

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Yes, Troy, that is true, is the 30/100% reason DT may remain in office after 2019, 70/100 he'll be removed before. It is quite possible impeachment only may be construed as satisfactory but is blood-in-the water for the Muller sharks. Impeachment will lead to indictment and removal. So I believe.

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12 minutes ago, Delano said:

he will resign and spin it as a victory. Saying he could have been the best President in the history of the world. 

 

That fit's DT's psychological profile, exactly; and it could either way which is another reason I give it 70% change he'll be out before 2019.

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In U.S. Supreme Court case  Burdick v. United States, 1915; held that when a person accepts a pardon it is a legal admission of guilt. Trump would be admitting that he is guilty of whatever crimes he is ultimately charged with by the Department of Justice. 

 

If Trump is free from federal charges he can still be impeached.  As many legal experts have said, the rules of evidence are different in an impeachment trial than in a criminal trial.  This means that evidence a defense lawyer gets excluded in a trial would be admitted in an impeachment proceeding.  Not only that, but after a pardon Trump could no longer invoke his 5th Amendment right against self-incrimination. He would have to testify against himself. 

 

Television ratings for a Trump impeachment trial where the rules of evidence don’t apply.  The plaintiffs in such a trial would be the very Congress people who Trump has been insulting and abusing for years.  They would be extremely vindictive and would bring up every nasty possible piece of evidence they could find to taint Trump’s reputation — and it would all be perfectly legal.

 

“A person can’t be pardoned if they have done nothing wrong. If Trump were to pardon himself for obstruction of justice, he would be admitting that he obstructed justice. Congress would have no choice but to impeach him. The pardon is not a get out of jail free card. Legally the president can’t pardon himself according to the Department of Justice, but if Trump tried, he would be impeached.” 

 

In either case DT would be removed from office. 

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If my memory serves me correctly, someone here mentioned a June 15, 2018 event that appear to taking shape. 

 

It is possible that June 15, 2018 will be the day on which Paul Manafort begins spending the rest of his life behind bars. Donald Trump’s Campaign Manager, the person who sat next to Jared Kushner and Donald Trump, Jr. as they plotted with Russian spies to steal an American election, may begin a life sentence in a little over a week’s time. 

 

     There are only three somewhat plausible reasons he won’t.

 

     First, there is the possibility that Manafort begins cooperating with the Special Counsel. Second, Donald Trump could pardon him at some point. Third, the judge could decide to allow Manafort to remain in home detention at the hearing on June 15. Let’s look at these possibilities—and their legal and political ramifications—one at a time. We’ll start with that third possibility.

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Del you should widen your source of information everything you share just reinforces what you (what we all) want to believe). The reality is Trump is not going anywhere before the end of the year -- even if he is completely guilty. The wheels of justice turn slowly... if at all.

 

Meanwhile time the Warner monopoly has been approved, net neutrality shut down, facebook owns social media and is working on destroying the rest of the web, and colin Kaepernick has been banned from playing football and no one cares

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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-22/ex-trump-lawyer-cohen-reaches-plea-deal-with-us-prosecutors/10150464

 

This just in @Troy

Mr Cohen's lawyer Lanny Davis said Mr Trump directed Mr Cohen to commit a crime and should face criminal charges as a result, claiming in a statement on Twitter that "If those payments were a crime for Michael Cohen, then why wouldn't they be a crime for Donald Trump?"

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For the upteenth time, no one doubts that 45 has engaged in criminal activity. 

 

This issue, and the basis for our wager, is whether 45 will be removed from office by December 31, 2018, 11:59:59 p.m.  The blow-by-blow has not showed anything to suggest that this will happen.

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9 hours ago, Troy said:

blow-by-blow has not showed anything to suggest that this will happen.

 

Troy, even the toughest of surfaces can take only so many blows before destruction; the Teflon Don isn't a tough surface. 

 

5 hours ago, Troy said:

better than 50-50 chance

 

For now yes, I agree there's about 55-45% chance he'll remain throughout 2018, but all the blows yet to come, considering his apparent desperation as well as the GOP's logic, DT could be impeached and indicted before 2019, resign, or drop dead from a heart attack.  Yeah, about 55-45% chance, for now, matters are increasingly eating away at his chance of making it through 2019. 

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@Troyat one point  you said he would be re-elected, then it went to finishing his term, now you are not so sure. In a month you may think his chances of finishing the year are lower. 

In March he was the Teflon Don not so much now. Every month the case against him gets stronger. Lets see what surprises September brings. 

I will say it again. This is  an astrological prediction. When i said he would  be out by the end of the year you said impossible. It's looking more possible. Keep watching. Let's see what Michael Cohen gives up. 

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1 hour ago, Delano said:

...Every month yhe case against him gets stronger. Lets see what surprises September brings. 

I will say it again. Yhus us an astrological prediction. When i said he would  be out by the end of the year you said impossible. It's looking more possible. Keep watching. Let's see what Michael Cohen gives u

Some political pundits are reporting that cooler heads are backing off bringing impeachment proceedings against Trump, because the offenses he's accused of might not  rise to the level of being illegal, allowing the Republican senate to dismiss charges. thereby enabling  Trump to emerge stronger than ever.  Mid-term elections and a 2020 defeat seems to be the most expedient goals.  None of this is about guilt or innocence any more, because it's in the realm of possibility that the president will pardon himself, and there is nothing anyone can do about this without creating chaos.  

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Constitutional Crisis and Rule of Law remember those terms.

That's why Mueller is following the money. Every month that passes you are less certain. The other big indicator is that Trump is quiet. 

Search Don McGahn I am sure some of you don't know who he is .

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Gee Del I have access to new information and I have changed my position.  I know you are very rigid in your stances, dig in, and don't change your mind without a great deal of resistance.  

 

That said, there is nothing that has been written, or said by any reasonable person, to suggest that 45 will be booted from office before the end of the year.  Nothing will happen before the midterms and even if they started the process of booting 45, it will can not be completed before the end of the year.  What is so hard to understand?

 

Your $50 is a money n my bank right now (your's too @Kalexander2)... like taking candy from a baby 🙂

 

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39 minutes ago, Cynique said:

cooler heads are backing off bringing impeachment proceedings against Trump, because the offenses he's accused of might not  rise to the level of being illegal

 

Yes, sister but the stakes have risen now; I too suggested that the solution rested with Congress and DOJ, not anymore.  NY State Penal Code Article 20 (can now) place the matter in hands of NY State and local authorities due to Cohen's admissions and implication of the President in high crimes.  If for nothing more than indicting DT's family members, which have the possibility of forcing him to resign.  Congress, DT, nor the US Constitution forbid NY from pursuing investigations and indictments.

 

17 minutes ago, Troy said:

Your $50 is a money n my bank right now (your's too @Kalexander2)... like taking candy from a baby 🙂

 

Maybe, but the bank isn't open yet, and this isn't babies eating candy.  Chances of you winning gentlemen's contest are being slowly eroded by new developments every day, every hour even.  Paul Ryan and the GOP are up against the wall right now, criminal as they all are, their self-preservation is imminent, for the sake of their party.  Indeed, any reasonable person would allow concession for what probability of all things considered possible. 

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Troy you are missing one not so minor point. In this discussion your position is a function of the  news while mine is astrological. So over time your position is becoming closer to mine. So my information seemso a bit more predictive than yours. 

 

The beauty is that on March not many people believed or thought Trump would finish his term.

I enjoy taking a contrary position that is a bit ahead of the curve. That is becoming self evident.

Tell me how certain you are after Cohen gets sentenced in September. 

Search Don McGahn @Troy

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6 hours ago, Troy said:

Gee Del I have access to new information and I have changed my position.  I know you are very rigid in your stances, dig in, and don't change your mind without a great deal of resistance.  

 

You mean like when I am right and you  are slowly changing your mind , in the face of overwhelming evidence. Perhaps what you see as resistance is thinking. Try it from time to time.

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Actually Del, my position is really more a function of my faith (or lack thereof) in the system of justice.  I have not really been following the news.  I try to moderate the noise on Trump that I consume, but this is difficult to do.  The only articles I've read are the ones you've posted links to.

 

Sure if I change my mind and it happens to be in line with a position you've always had, that is fine with me 🙂

 

 

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To trust in the idea that  that those in power will adhere to the truth and obey the law is no longer a valid stance!  That's the bizarre crazy thing about the Trump political charade.  He and his supporters have created an alternative reality.  Rudy Guilliani, with a straight face, said in a interview that the truth is not the truth. Trump has told his followers to not believe what they see, to just ignore what the evil press reports. The term "Fake News" is effectively used to squelch any challenges to his lies because of the public distrust of the media. His spokespeople abound in specious arguments, offering plausible  reasons for the actual reasons. They revel in deceptive semantics  and engage in double-speak. Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders has become an expert at evading the facts. She utters nothing but empty words arranged in vacant phrases.  They all operate on the principle that if they say something is true, that makes it so. Simply contradicting a fact is their way of dismissing what is so blatantly apparent.   

 

Currently Trump is introducing the idea of shutting down Mueller's probe, insisting it is nothing but a waste of time - a witch hunt with no merit. Nobody has the influence to prevent him from trying to interfere in this investigation. Discrediting witnesses who turn against him also works for him because they are all crooks like him who don't inspire trust. He turns villains into heroes and vice versa.  He is co-opting the office of the presidency right before our eyes as he takes on the mantel of a dictator placing himself above the law,  ready and willing to pardon his guilty cohorts. And himself.  

 

And as long as Republicans put their personal interests before the good of their country, very little can be done to put an end to Trump's disregard for the Constitution as he prepares to ram through yet another Supreme Court Justice lackey. Meanwhile, his nation-wide support remains solid in the 30 per cent range. Higher among Republicans.

 

 Elsewhere, the Democrats have no muscles to flex in this struggle. Yes, the majority of Americans disapprove of Trump, but they justifiably feel helpless inasmuch as even the ballot box is not immune to the devious dishonest tactics that fuel this presidency.  And of course the booming economy  works in Trump's favor as  the long, drawn-out Mueller hearings are becoming bogged down with disinterest on the part of the public.   

 

Admittedly, i am a pessimist,  which is why I stand by my belief that the only way Trump will leave office before 2020 is, in an attack of conscience, he steps down before his first term is over, for the good of the country.  I hope i am wrong, and the only problem i will have  if i  am wrong, is that Pence will then be in a position to led this nation toward a theocratic oligarchy.  If Trump does get kicked out of office, i do hope it will be within the next year because at my age, i could go at any time and miss this world-shattering event!  😬

 

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