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Being fascinated with words and what they can convey and how thoughts can be things and images can be energized into reality, I have to admit that the "OWN" logo which stands for the Oprah Winfrey Network is soooooo clever and a brand name supreme loaded with potential. She said this name came to her out of the blue. This woman has instinctively aligned herself with a zone of success that has put her in sync with prosperity. I don't care how much she disclaims it, she is LUCKY because others of her caliber have not ascended the heights she has. The stars must have been well-positioned at her moment of birth, turning her into a natural-born phenomenon destined for greatness.

On December 21st I braved the snow and cold to go outside at 2 o'clock in the morning to witness the rare winter solstice lunar eclipse, in hopes of magnetizing my aura with some good vibes. But I couldn't see nothin, the cloud cover was so thick. Oh well. Better luck next time. OHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM. ;)

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Hate Hate Hate.... until your butt stanks, admit it, Oprah is simply GREAT! Lucky is for sleepers, and nothing comes to a sleeper but a dream. Gosh, people of her caliber? WTH does that mean. It's obvious "they" are not of her caliber because they either work for her or they are barking at the moon ( On December 21st I braved the snow and cold to go outside at 2 o'clock in the morning to witness the rare winter solstice lunar eclipse) or they think the sky is falling down..... "oh lawdy, I's not as lucky as Oprah, so take me lord". And then there's your garden variety jealous

HATER:

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"> hater.... "I don't care how much she disclaims it, she is LUCKY because others of her caliber have not ascended the heights she has. The stars must have been well-positioned at her moment of birth, turning her into a natural-born phenomenon destined for greatness"

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As I was saying, Oprah is lucky. She is no smarter or more savvy than many black women who have not been the beneficiary of a fluke, - of being in the right place at the right time.

Oprah gives me an excuse to give my sense of humor a work-out. The only thing that really inspires any jealousy of Oprah on my part is that she never has to worry about maxing out her credit cards. All I require is a life of leisure, something my modest postal pension enables me to have.

(Ol cross-dressing Carey probably fantasizes about getting his own talk show, something that would provide him with a forum for his boring ignorance.) Stfu, you played-out jerk

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(Ol cross-dressing Carey probably fantasizes about getting his own talk show, something that would provide him with a forum for his boring ignorance.) Stfu, you played-out jerk

Cross dresser??!! Oh Lord!!! Don't you think that's kinda harsh.....Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!

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"Ol cross-dressing Carey probably fantasizes about getting his own talk show, something that would provide him with a forum for his boring ignorance"

Now that's not a bad idea. If Tyler Perry can dress in drag, why can't I?

I can see it now.....

"hello Oprah, this is Careynique"

"Hello Careynique, how ya doing?"

"I'm doing fine Oprah, but listen, I have this idea about a talk show that I want to run by you"

"Come on, I am all ears"

"Well, picture a Medea type woman sitting in her kitchen, talking to her friends and celebrity guests"

"Oooooh, I'm liking it"

"Yeah, now check this, you know how people cry while sitting on your couch, well our host has a big surprise for them if they start that sh*t"

"Oooooh, tell me more!"

"Well Oprah, at the present time I have a few "big ears" sitting around me so maybe we can get together"

"I okay, I'll tell you what I am going to do. I am going to send my people over to talk to your people so we can get this ball rolling"

"Great, I love you Oprah"

***years later, Carey changes his name to Dave and finds real love*** Check it out:

http://www.comedycen...-oprah-pregnant

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I can't wait to see the new movie that Oprah is starring in with

Meryl Streep and Sandra Bullock. Those three in one film has got to

be a powerful combination. I hear Oprah gets the guy at the end.

I love Oprah.

I think she's gorgeous for her age and I think she's

been randomly "lucky" just as Cynique described. But she's still a

helluva person IMO.

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Yes Xeon,

I think Oprah is very beautiful. Of course in a western society she would not get

credit for her beauty, especially from Black Americans, because you all (for the most part)

can't recognize BLACK beauty unless it's white-looking. She is a stately, queenly, beautiful

Black woman. She looks like a 100% Zulu.

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Kola, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so we can disagree on whether Oprah is "beautiful", but you ascribe her beauty to all of those African traits; that she is clearly trying to eschew:

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Her hair has been straighted, it appears she had a nose job her complextion looks lighter in the photograph.

What do you think sbout that?

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Troy and XEON,

WHAT I THINK:

One thing I notice in this country (and we see this ALL THE TIME)....Black Men telling

Barbara Walters, Diane Sawyer, Fergie, Jane Pauley, Teena Marie....the most average looking

White women HOW LOVELY they are. Yet Oprah is supposedly Fat & Ugly.

I say Camel Shit!

Oprah looks better than ALL those ugly White hags. But there is some germ of mental illness

that afflicts Black Men. I don't know if they got it from birds or cats...but it's like a

fucking VIRUS that Black Males just can't shake. Anyone with WHITE skin is immediately

credited with good looks simply on the basis of having a lighter complexion--and in MOST

cases---such as comparing Ricki Lake to Jennifer Hudson; the Lighter/Whiter person is NOT

the cute one!

I had this argument with Posar (my guy)....and though he's Black American and quite different

and I love him to death, I had to admit to him that I secretly LOATHE most Black American men

for this very reason and put them right on the REMEMBER TO BURN AT STAKE pile right along with

Sudan's Mullahs and the KKK.

It just pisses me the fuck off when an "African-American" gets done talking about how ugly Oprah

is and then turns around and says Teena Marie was pretty.

Man, CAMEL SHIT!!!

Miss Black Tennessee

Oprah Winfrey

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Oprah Winfrey won the Miss Black Tennessee Beauty Pageant and she is prettier than all those women and always was. And it really irks me that your people can never see anything pretty about each other. POSAR gets pissed at me for saying this, but it's like you don't know what Black People are SUPPOSED to look like or some shit. It's always a frigg'n "AA" talking about 50 Cent is ugly or Fantasia "isn't cute enough to be on the radio"---but then you pumping up White HAGS like Fergie and Teena Marie.

Please.

Like I said, Oprah is a very attractive Black Queen. Period.

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Well I see Kola is back in form. Duck!

To me, Oprah looks like the 55-year-old black woman that she is. She is not fat but she is hefty. Her hair is permed and she is skillfully made up. Oh, yeah, - she's a billionaire, an asset that goes a looooong way toward making her attractive.

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main-oprah-v2.jpg

Her hair has been straighted, it appears she had a nose job her complextion looks lighter in the photograph.

What do you think sbout that?

She's still got the same nose she's always had. Just in the studio portrait above, her face is heavily painted and carefully lighted to create the illusion of a narrow, straight nose bridge. If she went out in public with that paint job, everyone would laugh, because the illusion only works from certain angles. It's a nose job that washes off, but it expresses the same desire as having surgery.

Here she is with street (as opposed to stage) makeup in 2010:

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Same nose, but a lot less face paint.

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YEAH, TELL'EM KOLA, THEY NEED TO HEAR THE TRUTH!

And give me that damn mic, I am tired tired tired of some negros that deny the truth even when it's sitting on their brainwashed heads. Check this (and I 've said this before):

WHY ALL THE HATE ON OPRAH AND TYLER PERRY?

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You might not like her Stead-man or her BFF Gail, but you can't deny the truth. Oprah has given voice to more intelligent and artistic people of color than any person on this earth. That list numbers in the thousands. From black politicians , black authors, black musical geniuses, black business owners, heads of foreign states, prominent black lawyers, doctors, chief cooks and bottle washers, Oprah has been the driving force in exposing them to the world, which opens a door for more to follow. Oh, should I mention her unmatched effort to highlight the ever- present struggles of the black female. Not to mention her nearly 1/2 billion dollars she's given to the needy.

Look, you may not like Oprah because of her fortune and fame, and you may not like her interviewing style, and I understand that, however, does that diminish her overall accomplishments? Well, I'm just asking because I know it does not. I also know some people are constitutionally incapable of seeing the truth, even when it smacks them in their face. Yet, the truth does not lie.

Listen, so many times and so many ways, I've said Oprah Winfrey is probably the greatest black woman that has ever walked this earth. I say that because "great" is reserved for those that far exceed the accomplishments of others and spreads their "wealth" and "knowledge" along the way. Greatness is reserved for those that break through the glass ceiling and then puts that ceiling in the basement. Greatness is reserved for those that have the courage and wisdom to withstand attacks from the front & the back, from the rich & the poor, from BLACKS & WHITES. Great is reaching back to give back. Greatness is reaching back to a land that most blacks could call home. Some call it the motherland.

Although money is not the road to happiness, it's great that Oprah has given hundreds of millions of her dollars to causes that nobody else dared to attack or even mention. Great is a person that can win the approval of others in spite of their skin color. Oprah stands alone in her greatness. Although many women have done great things, those accomplishments pale in comparison to those of Oprah Winfrey's. You may not agree, but please tell me why?

One can not deny that her greatness extends beyond the boarders of America. Oprah is the GREATEST of them all. There are no challengers to her crown. Not yet anyway.

So please, why is it when one of our own reaches a place of comfort and success, so many POC hate them? Oprah is a fantastic role model for all our black children. Granted, there may be small titty-bits (yes, I said "titty"-bits) of personal indifference's one may have with Oprah, but in no way does that diminish her accomplishments. Some folks are just too busy smelling their own upper lip. And lord have mercy, some black people even call her ugly, *shaking my damn head* Yeah, there's some brainwashing going on.

WHY? Well, I'll tell you why....

Because of the color of their skin. Some blacks folks are so envious, slothful, wrathful and jealous, that they'd kill themselves before they'd give another black person their proper due.

Do I hear a ball of confusion?

Run, run, run, but you sho' can't hide. An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, vote for me, and I'll set you free. Rap on brother, rap on. Well, the only person talkin bout love thy brother is the preacher. And it seems, nobody is interested in learnin' but the teacher. Segregation, determination, demonstration, integration, aggravation, humiliation, obligation to our nation.

Ball of Confusion

That's what the world is today. The sale of pills are at an all time high. Young folks walk around with their heads in the sky. Cities aflame in the summer time and the beat goes on. Air pollution, revolution, gun control, sound of soul. Shootin' rockets to the moon, kids growin' up too soon. Politicians say more taxes will solve everything, and the band played on.

So round 'n' round 'n' round we go, where the world's headed, nobody knows.

Just a Ball of Confusion

Oh yea, that's what the world is today. Fear in the air, tension everywhere, and the band played on - and the band played on.

In short, why all the hate on Tyler Perry and Oprah Winfrey? Really, specifically, what's your beef with Oprah? Why can't we champion the good and leave the hate behind? You tell me because I don't know.

And while you're at it, read the following post on Tyelr Perry's "For Colored Girls". I am not done yet.

Sample: OMG!!!! Some negros have become embarrassingly ridiculous. Black directors make movies they feel are relevant to their personal agendas and those of their targeted audience (which is generally black). White people have nothing to do with it. Negroes need to move past their paranoiac race fantasies of persecution and see reality for it is. The Negroes who were upset about Chris Rocks movie were embarrassed that non-whites would now know the astringent details of the difficulty of grooming and managing black hair (as if they didn’t already know!). Outside of the deep rooted shame and self loathing of their natural hair, there is no sane reason for Negroes to protest such movies as Good Hair, Precious and FCG. I personally heard two black women bitterly complain the Rock had “exposed black women’s secrets” (I know…I know, as pathetic as that sounds -I actually heard them say it!). Same can be said for the movie Precious. It was a hard core gritty story about a young black woman’s tragic life. All the trappings and characters in the movie are real and black America is filled with legions of Negroes who are carbon copies of every single character in the movie. So why all the histrionics and temper tantrums about situations, behavior and characters that are pandemic in black America? Makes no sense cuz….

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This from a person who has consistently put Halle Berry down, presumably for or no other reason that that he doesn't like her. Or as he calls it, "hatin".

And of course he dismisses anybody who doesn't share his opinion that Halle didnt deserve an Oscar for "Monster's Ball".

I continue to be amazed how some people lose their cool just because some one else doesn't like who they like. Some people are just not bedazzled by Oprah and that's their prerogative! There are a lot of white celebs who Oprah critics also don't like, and there are a lot of black celebs who they do like. But there are those who just want to push their preferences down the throats of others, and give lectures to people who defy them.

Thing is, I don't think either Oprah or Halle gave a damn what their detractors think about them. Oprah probably thinks they can kiss her big ol ass as she cries all the way to the bank.

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Gosh, there you go talking out of the side of your neck - again.

Who said any of the following:

"This from a person who has consistently put Halle Berry down, presumably for or no other reason that that This from a person who has consistently put Halle Berry down, presumably for or no other reason that that he doesn't like her. Or as he calls it, "hatin". And of course he dismisses anybody who doesn't share his opinion that Halle didnt deserve an Oscar for "Monster's Ball".

Cynique, I know you don't like being called out or called on your foolish remakes (and you'll probably run from this one), but please explain what source of information inspired you to makes such a statement (lie)?

Listen, Halle is a very good actress and I've never said otherwise. And, I've seen her latest release... Have you? And who said she didn't "deserve" her Oscar? You've lost your mind. I voiced my complaints about the role but what are you talking about? You've gone from dissing Oprah to talking about a Monster's Ball.

So Cynique, if you don't want to lose what little props you have left, come correct and keep you imaginations and "presumptions" out of the equation. Geez, you've been losing ground all this weeks. You gotta come with a little better game plan. Lies, and crying and presumption and assumption are not cutting it.

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YOU said this during a heated discussion about the Oscars the year Halle and Denzel won. I distinctly remember what you choose to forget. Some people were saying that they both won their Oscars for playing roles that put black people in a bad light and you agreed, saying that Halle's co-starring role opposite Billy Bob Thornton was not Oscar worthy. And you also seem to have forgotten how last year YOU were putting Tyler Perry down! I don't expect you to own up to any of this because you are so full of yourself that you stink. YOu really think that you are getting over but you ain't doing nothing but blowing smoke out of your ass. I'v gone from discussing your whining about Oprah's detractors to proving that you are guilty of doing what you accuse others of doing - as usual. You're pathetic.

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Oh me oh my, wake up from your fits of delusions. Read it here and you will find it fair. The following are my EXACT words on Tyler Perry. And if I did say - which I did not - that Halle's role was not Oscar worthy, that's only speaking the significance of THAT role. There could have been better performances that year. So what they hell is your point? I did not, and never have said the woman couldn't act! Cynique, you're losing it.

So, I am standing on mine and my side of the street, but where on earth have you drifted? But after reading the following, I think it might jog your memory. My words are documented and your's seem to be lost in your emotional turmoil.

Cynique, you keep asking for these ass-whoopings and I am abliged to give you what you want. Now listen, be careful what you ask for and if you come looking for me or calling my name, you must have noticed that I will not take pity on a shit talking old lady. Here it comes. Read'em and weep.

TO MY NAY-SAY FRIENDS OF TYLER PERRY AND FOR COLORED GIRLS.

Blow it out your ass! Yeah, that's what I said, find a clue and some toilet paper.

Well carey,"Tyler Perry is a Black dysfunction porn pimp. He thinks that because he's so dysfunctional that all Black people are as well. I think Oprah falls into this category too"

Is that right? Well let me tell you a thang or two. I get so tired of negros that watch a movie, and then cry about how it makes "us" look. Give me a freaking break! First, it's a damn movie, okay. It's one story in time. It's one of a thousand avenues in which one could draw a conclusion and/or opinion on any number of topics including race, sexual abuse, or rather or not the Miami Heat will win the NBA Championship. Depending on who you ask, it's highly probably a mega-ton of thoughts will follow.

And please excuse me, did I miss the memo? When did the mystical "ambiguous" other folks (eye in the sky) ever love us? I mean, did I miss the call that said we've been loved for the last 200 years? If there was no such doctrine, then why (NOW?) are some folks concerned with how a movie (one movie) projects a black face, or highlights real issues within our community?

Come on, if a person gets their core knowledge from a damn movie and uses that "limited" knowledge to draw a conclusion based solely from that source, THAT person is an idiot! Consequently, if someone worries about that fool's opinion, then hey, what does that say about them? If you talk to a fool long enough, there will soon be two fools talking - and arguing - talking about absolutely nothing.

So Tyler Perry portrays the black man as an evil usurper of woman. Really... how so, and even though, so.... and? And what, those monsters don't exist? Spare me, Tyler Perry didn't create those brutal men, look out your window, or look in your family tree. Please, lets keep this real. Who's fooling who?

Listen, personally I do not think Tyler Perry is a great director. But that opinion is not based on the subject matter in his films. Why should it? And now we have some folks attacking the man's character because some of his films include abused women and whorish men. Lordy lordy, we don't want that to get out. The general public can't handle that new (news). What will they think of us now? Do you hear me.... nothing has changed because there's nothing to change.

Didn't the same freaks come out at night when "Precious" landed. Didn't I hear the same black zombies and mammy rags cry foul? Sure I did. In fact, I wrote a song about it. Here it goes...

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The greatest show on earth. The most super-fabulous, splenderocious, Mega-magnanimous event of the year. Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you Ray "Jamie Fox" Charles vs Mary "Mo’nique" Jones. Tyler Perry and the man that raped the woman in For Colored Girls.

But first, let’s get the preliminary fights out of the way.

I am still alive. I mean, I watched the movies "Precious" and "Ray" and For Colored Girls, and I am still here. That must make me a special kind of survivor - huh? I don’t feel compelled to shoot heroin or rape my daughter, so I must be special. My white neighbors still wave at me as they pass by. I don’t know what they are saying in their homes, nor do I care.

A Precious lived down the street from me. The rumors and whispers surrounding the father of her children have stood the test of time. We called her father, Icewater.

The other day I passed by the welfare office. I spotted several "Mo`niques" exchanging Newport cigarettes. I knew some of them – I waved and kept driving.

I know several women that have been brutalized by the hands of men. In fact, last year, one was murdered by the hands of her lover. And check this, ol'boy had done it before. After doing a ten year bit, he got out and did it again. Now he's doing life.

Let me continue. Last week I accompanied my granddaughter to her school. Ms. Cornrolls, the schools receptionist , greeted me with a smile. I returned the favor and threw in a hug.

I’ve coached teenage thugs. I know their mothers and fathers. I am still alive. "Precious" and "Ray" and "For Colored Girls" are movies. Can we move forwards?

Did Mo`nique kill the part of Precious Jones!? Did she not waver in that role? Wasn’t she the epitome of every abusive mother in the world. How about Kimberly Elise in FCG? Did she bring her A-game or what? Thandie Newton might not get an Oscar nod for her performance but she was the best whorish tramp that I've seen in some time. But wait, they were black women in despair, so we can't champion their roles, can we?

Jamie Fox was Ray Charles. While watching "Ray" I witnessed Jamie morph into Ray Charles, one of the greatest R & B singers of all time. And remember, Ray Charles was a heroin addict. I wonder how many people bought a trey bag after watching that movie?

In every detail, Mo`nique captured my vision of the quintessential angry, hostile, vicious, manipulative, cunning and insecure women. She took me there. And wait, Ray Charles was a womanizer. I wonder what the white man thinks about that. Well, no I don't. Again, I could care less about their views of us. I mean, why should I? They will continue to do what they've always done. That is, let us hang ourselves, while they sit back, and wait, to pickup the trash.

I understand Ray Charles addiction to heroin. I also understand the resentment Mary Jones had for her daughter, however, I do not condone either’s behavior. Yet, I am sure neither individual signed up for that road of ignorance. Therefore, I refuse to convict them for their character flaws or lay total blame at their feet, nor that of Lee Daniels, the director of Precious. Mary Jones said "I did what my mother told me".

I few days ago, a friend of mine told me that Mr. So-n-So was a good man. I asked her how she knew that. She paused, then said "well, he had a good job and tired to show his son’s how to be men". I asked her if she’d ever been in his house. She said it was a dirty mess. She went on to say there were rumors of him abusing his wife. Rumors mind you, but she did notice his wife’s soft steps when in the company of her husband. My friend was married to this man’s son. She said he was the worst SOB she’d ever known. He abused her for 30 years. Opps, I shouldn't talk about that, right?

Mo `nique (Mary Jones) did what her mother told her. She pointed a finger at Precious and said, "It’s this bitches fault, she made [my man] leave. She let him have her. She made him leave, who else is gonna love me!?". That damn Lee Daniels and Tyler Perry, they're always throwing that mess in our face, right? Wrong, the mess was already in our face, some folks just don't want to look at it.

Jamie Fox’s portrayal of Ray Charles was one of the best performance I `ve seen in my lifetime.

And, the scene in the welfare office with Mariah Carey (Ms. Weiss) and Precious was grand theater. Mo `nique’s acting in that scene was probably the best performance that I `ve ever witnessed by a black actress. No, not probably, it was the best performance I ‘ve ever seen. I’d argue against any contenders.

Tyler Perry's latest effort may not be Oscar worthy, and truthfully, it's not. However, much of the criticism is pointed in the wrong direction. But really, and more importantly, what can we REALLY do to change the minds of those that love to swim in negativity? Think about that.

And think about why I didn't give my overall review of For Colored Girls? Well, I'll tell you. This morning I talked about this movie for about 3 hours. I got strung out debating this movie with the poet laureate of our city. Really, that's her official title. So I had my hands full. Then my daughter called and it was on again. So I was worn out. But if you ask me a few questions, I can't tell a lie.

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YOu're crazier than I thought if you think I'm going to read all that drivel. Where's the post in which you tell Tyler that the title of the movie says "for colored GIRLS" after which you proceed to ridicule him and his Madea character??

And I didn't say that you said Halle couldn't act; you are putting your spin on things as usual. I said you put her down for the role she played. You aren't losing it, you've lost it because you can't confront the truth about your hypocrisy.

The subject of your criticism of Halle winning an Oscar was injected into the conversation because you were boo-hooing about black people hating on each other, something you think that only you are entitled to do. You talk out of both sides of your mouth and nothing of substance comes out of either side. Talk about somebody being delusional. Look in the mirror.

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Are you referring to this jewel that I did in my home? If you are, take note that this is a critique on Mr Perry's ability to capture the essence of a woman's struggles. Also, read it there and agian you'll find it fair - I've given my definition of a "hater", and this - in know way - fits in that catagory. Listen real good as I define my points of contention.

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I ain't listening to shit. I can't stand the sound of your voice and don't intend to waste my time muddling through the maze of your pseudo logic. Your delusions of grandeur have reached ridiculous proportions and my time is too valuable to waste on your self-serving idiotic babbling. YOUR definition of hating. Puleeze. Who cares????

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Thank you very much. You didn't disappoint me. In fact, I was waiting for your return and I could have written your reply.

See you later allegator. If not afterwhile crocodile. ;)

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This is off the thread of discussion at this point, but what I found is too quirky not to share.

This wasn't spanish, and I didn't recall ever hearing that Oprah was in a singing group.

So I looked it up.

That’s no Oprah. That’s Monique Rabaraona and her siblings, aka “Les Surfs.” They were a ‘60s-era group from Madagascar that covered American pop hits in French. Here’s a cultural-fusion gem: a 1963 music video of their wacky cover version of Trini Lopez’ bastardized arrangement of Pete Seeger’s classic protest song. They drain every vestige of social relevance from the song, leaving pure fluffy fun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIavj_hts0w

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Here's a live TV version, even more peppy than the previous. At 1:40, the brothers do the Macarena. I kid you not. The Macarena. To "If I Had a Hammer."

Which just goes to show how universal a song can be.

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Cynique,

Thanks for the tip about Cumin. I just noticed that.

My problem isn't with people not liking Oprah. Everyone has the right

to admire whomever they admire.

My problem is with people (particularly Black people) rushing to say

that Oprah is "ugly" (which she is not).

I am speaking to a Mass Condition I notice (whether you agree or not) in

the majority of Black people where anyone who is noticeably Black is viewed

through a "Flatness" of eye dismissal...meaning, facial features are not really

observed; healthiness of skin tone; teeth; smile; eyes; the whole face of that

person is just routinely dismissed because they are Black.

The fact that the same idiots saying Oprah is ugly will commonly turn around

and say that Ricki Lake or Mama Cass "had a pretty face" is proof of this phenomenon.

I am tired of reasonably attractive/healthy looking Black people---such as Oprah,

Gayle King, Michelle Obama, Dionne Warwick--being referred to as "Ugly."

Let us not forget that PRESENCE and the ability to command a space is one of the

greatest attributes of those who are beautiful.

I feel very strongly that American Blacks immediately OVERLY-judge Black people's

looks and have inhuman expectations about what THEY are supposed to look like.

There is nothing "ugly" about Oprah Winfrey. I saw enormous beauty in her appearance

the first time I ever saw her. I don't know how in the hell Barbara Walters is stately

and good looking...but Oprah is a shrew? Just stop.

Lastly. Black People...are SUPPOSED to look like....Black People. And often times the

put downs & hatefulness towards a Black person's looks is based on something that has

to do with their Phenotypical beauty composite. For instance, Gladys Knight, who was

really a raving beauty when she was young---is disqualified for having big cushy lips,

which to my eyes, RAISES HER above the other women in the looks department.

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I rarely hear anybody of an race refer to Oprah as "ugly". Oprah knows how to put herself together and when skillfully made-up looks quite attractive, something most people would agree to. Her skin color is a dull brown which she brightens up and she has a good head of abundant hair that, altho permed, does not necessarily need to be enhanced with extensions. People also emphathize with her weight problem and admire how she adheres to a work-out regimen to keep herself toned. Her credo is: "live your best life", and she exemplifies this.

The reason Oprah inspires so much eye-rolling is not a physical one. It is because of her overbearing pontificating and her implicit male-bashing and how no matter what problem a guest is victimized by, Oprah claims to have gone through the same thing. And course, there is a prevailing sentiment that "O" snubs black authors when it comes to her book selection and that she caters to her white audience. Anyone in the public eye becomes fair game to critics so none of this is surprising. Bottom line, Oprah doesn't need to be defended on any level because she has it made and nobody knows this more than she does

How people of different shades are perceived is a fact of life. But color is just one determining factor. We all know that the desired standard of womanhood has been established by the entertainment media and the fashion industry. What should be acknowledged is that women of all ethnicities are subjected to unfavorable scrutiny if they fall short of what is considered the paragon. And, btw, in this century, luscious lips are no longer considered a flaw.

Moreover, black people don't bite their tongues when it comes to criticizing how people of other races look. They are just as quick to disapprove of other's appearances as others are to disapprove of theirs. IMO

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