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@richardmurray, thanks for posting this thread. If I can emphasize a salient point here... white American private schools, colleges and universities are the epicenter of networking to maintain white supremacy. There is a reason that piece of paper from an Ivy League school carries so much weight. It has little or nothing to do with brain power and everything to do with connections. H8ll, George Bush went to Yale. 😁 Black folks should be using their institutions of higher learning in a similar manner. Network and make strategic alliances. Not just to get a piece of paper and have to beg a dumb white supremacist for a job.😎

@Mzuri, in our litigious country, we cannot run around hurting people's feeling.🤣 @Stefan, when folks put themselves out there, they become a target for crooks, comedians and haters alike.😁 As a natural born comedian, I can see and/or find humor in a lot of things that others may not find funny at all. I don't take life too seriously. I believe laughter is great for the soul. That being said, I don't believe humor should be mean spirited. So, I would not call Cardi B a prostitute but she d8mn sure dresses liike one and then, there's the lyrics in her songs.😁 Madonna used more than her looks and voice to sell. Back in the late 80s through 90s, she was considered a bad girl. LIghtweight by today's standards. Now, the Kartrashians are a family full of ho's. Their mother is a madam. On TV and in the press, these women have no shortage of AfroAmerican athletes, rappers and celebrities playing around in their background. Their father, Robert Kardashian has to be fully cooked by now for as many times as he's had to turn over in his grave. Nonetheless, the sins of greed, jealousy, envy and hate will consume those of lower self-esteem as they continue to dine on junk food. 😎

That is the ugly side of fame and celebrity and the tabloid industry built upon it. Even worse is that people actually consume it. Then again, it's junk food for the brain. I saw the potential for tabloid media and it's modern form (social media) to spiral out of control way back in the 1980s when the paparazzi were hiding in trees and bushes to take pictures of the newly crowned King of Pop Michael Jackson. Of course, they also wrote bizarre stories about him too. We know what they did to Princess Diana. It doesn't appear that journalistic integrity is a high ranking factor in the tabloid world. In the age of social media, fact checking seems to be going the way of the doo doo bird too. I hate when people tell me something and the 1st question I have to ask is...cite the source. if they form the letter F (book) or Twit or Gram, I don't want to hear it. That isn't news. It's gossip. OTOH, celebrities do walk a thin line when it comes to using the media to sell their image and brand. That camera or mic could go either way in being an asset or liability. Watch your steps. But, I'm glad Cardi B won her lawsuit. Nobody deserves to be slandered. I do hope she uses the money to buy some classier clothes and maybe even take a Toastmasters class. 😁😎

Number 10 is actually Paul Robeson not Oscar Micheaux

Ah huh. So to you, Black people have a severe identity crisis, believe in ancient scripts that prove factual, lost, believe in facts that you White Americans have lied to us through education, believe in facts about Jesus Christ's life, ignorant due to being stolen as children and miseducated and taught that the actual truth is only a myth and an allegory. and lost. You White Neanderthals are so preoccupied with telling Black Americans that the lie you taught us is now, not important, but HEY, you're not jealous, that the ancient scriptures state that you are indeed Neanderthals and we are God's favored. smh! lol. Keep reading and visiting, I will give you more to be jealous and envious about! ----------------------------------- [1] Why is it that many foreigners come over here to America and tell us that we are indeed Hebrew Israelites based on ancient script and facts!? [2] Why is it that people tell my son, everywhere he goes that he looks like the people in the Horn of Africa, Hebrew Israelites and Egyptians? [3] Why is it that even Africans tell many of us, that some of us Black Americans look like hte people from the Horn? [4] Why is it that the slave documents I have of my ancestor states that she came from the very seaport that Moses prophesized some Hebrew Israelites would be brought back to and then sold into slavery!? keep reading... RE-READ the book of Genesis about the Original sin: [1] Eve got Naked with that intersexed Neanderthal [2] God said that herpes infested snake had 'a seed' [3] God called 'that seed' a female because he knew that Neanderthals can't produce a viable YDNA birth. [4] Eve gave birth to THE SEED OF SATAN [5] that BROWN EARTH MOTHER later turned against Eve and her step-father Adam and surely clung to her father/rapist [6] Cain's sin lieth right at his door-- his half-sister [7] Cain's wife, the earth mother herself introduced Cain to becoming obssesed with Idolatry and making idols [8] Cain's wife, introduced Cain to his master skills of digging deeper in the ground, not only to become a tiller of the ground--Metalurgy, but making idols [9] Cain's wife, caused Cain to become 'the ruler of sin--White supremacy-- as she slept with anyone she wanted to [10] She married her son, Chanoch [ie Enoch]; and later their were Giants on the earth due to this type of incest [11] Cain's descendants became obssessed with White Supremacy ... Ah huh... keep reading Neanderthal MISS ISRAEL http://missosology.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/ilarr2.jpg

richardmurray, a most excellent point, indeed.

LOL!

That's all I've been trying to say, and I've been ruthlessly attacked for say so, out loud. Stefan, you're losing consciousness. I've got to find some Valium, quick! Stefan, you're a lost cause. May the Gods be with you.

I live for any challenge, and the color of your skin makes absolutely no difference to me, whatsoever. I understand politics at a level that you could not possibly grasp or imagine. I'll leave it at that.

Inspired into the forum by @ProfD the purpose of educational institutions in the english colonies to 2022 in the usa. You have three avenues. White european Indigenous Black White european mass education < meaning schools> was originally for religious teaching. Apprenticeship , was the primary tool for education in the crafts or philosophical arts. The first colleges in the usa had one function, that they all still maintain today, a place where rich white male children can come together and make alliances for the future. ... now going through time, white women gained colleges but they were designed to prepare for wifedom, not working or owning anything. Classes on homelife dominated those schools originally. ... later on whites like woodrow wilson gave the college of new jersey their first academic requirements, which was viewed as radical at that time. That time being the late 1800s early 1900s so.then after world war two, the statian empire through the leadership of FD Roosevelt, made the gi bill so all the male soldiers just finished killing for the empire, were preoccupied with school and financial stipends, not poverty and thoughts of money making through arms. That led to the modern idea of the education system being about self improvement and a way to create a peaceful or positive multiracial society. Indigenous mass education was originally, absent any native american or indigenous input , meant to eliminate the culture of the native american in the remaining survivors of the native american community. As one navajo poet said, most native american poets don't write in their native tongue, which their traditional culture will allow but , they don't know their traditional culture, and the reason is the schools whites owned , controlled, used to do said purpose. Now in the 1950s, note the time between the first white invading immigrants and the 1950s, native american communities rallied against these institutions, with varying levels of success. I think the last of those schools existed in the 1990s. But, Native americans today, absent money, absent power, absent knowledge are trying to relearn their own culture. A very hard thing to do when everything is against your community. Cause the damage in the past wasn't little. Black mass or individual education was banned legally or culturally within the usa or the european colonies that preceded it holistically, until the end of the war between the states. Now the Historical Black Colleges and Universities, most of whom were financed by white religious organizations , had two purposes. Religious indoctrination plus craft teaching. The three key leaders to HBCU's in my view is frederick douglass/booker t washington/web dubois. Each black male had four things in common : each was black, male, had positive relations on a personal level with financially wealthy whites, had a strong belief in the ability of education to empower. To the issue here that last point is massive. The HBCU's eventually taught more than physical crafts and started teaching law or chemistry. But, the black leadership of the day, those three men I spoke of, had an idea that black people absent ownership could educate our way into some positive situation. Over time,the white religious groups stopped funding the schools and many fell. But those who survived have within each of them a similar community of black students, like the white students that originally inhabited in majority and still inhabt in minority, the ivy league schools. A black one percent. Now what does this have to do with HBCU's getting more membership, or the role of affirmative action in the educational system? The problem is the initial role of educational systems, and how they haven't functionally changed from their original premise. I am from NYC, Harlem in particular, I know COlombia University very well. I can tell you with certainty that most whites know colombia is a place to connect to the money. Yeah, they want to learn or study. But, the role of colleges is to connect to the money. Native americans exist in NY state, the cloest tribe is on the tip of long island, a place called montauk. But it isn't like their language or culture is taught in schools. And I will not speak for any of you... but, I persoanlly know a ton of black matriculated people older than me, my generation, younger than me. Civil engineers/chemical engineers/electrical engineers/physicists/mathemeticians yes... and not just recent immegres from jamaica or nigeria, yes, DOSers, that is right , people descended from black people enslaved in the usa. As a teenager, I knew of black kids in bronx science/brooklyn tech/styvesant, as well as in brandeis... educationally, I don't see anything wrong with the black community. But, the issue isn't education. It isn't even entry. Like myself most black people in NYC didn't get affirmative action to go to school. The issue is the role of the educational system to opportunity. The historical black colleges were not for collections of fiscally wealthy blacks cause too few , I realize when I use absolute words in this forum somebody has to comment I am wrong for being absolute in my words, fiscally wealthy blacks existed. Now today a fiscal black elite exists but they haven't done their part. Before I go into their part, my closing point on education education systems in the usa is, they are not for education. They either serve as gated communities for fiscally wealthy children to keep the money tight/are cultural weapons to annihilate or diminish non white or non white european culture/ or they are for religious cultural teachings that don't respect the fiscal capitalistic reality of the usa. And that is ownership is key, not labor. IF you own, you are the slavemaster. Everybody else is either a slave/overseer/crafts person but everybody else works for you, and at your behest, not cause any from everybody else merits it. It is cause you the owner want them. Now, to the black fiscal elite. I don't know how many black people were paid to go to school by a relative who was a financially successful singers/thespians/athlete... but I am 99% certain that said relatives didn't send 90% of their kin to HBCUs. So, before the fiscally poor black children are asked to go to HBCU's 99% of the fiscally wealthy or attached to fiscally wealthy black children need to go to HBCU's first. And that also provides that investment that is badly needed.

Cynique, Some of the comments I come across on here are really pitiful. So much anti-Black sentiment from people who claim to be Black. Unsubstantiated charges, repeats of decades old anti-Black tropes and a whole lot of ignorance of recent history. I am beginning to become convinced that some of these Trump supporters look at this lying, racist and clown as their god. They need to worship Massa Trump so they can be told whom to hate, whom to insult and how to grovel if they are ever going to be acceptable to him. I am not sure this is the case with all of them. But I bet a few have a secret desire to be pointed to the fields so they can live out their true dream as a subservient toady to a man they deem superior.

thank you @Delano cosidering how many black people love video games, we need to have more

One thing is clear, Black people need to create more with other black people, I doubt anyone can speak against that point. @ProfD any links? do you have a band or you only do solo work? solo work isn't collaborative. @Stefan I know many artists disagree, but I am certain a photo is a collaborative work between photographer side model. thank you. At the moment, you are the only one who has presented collaborative work. one question @daniellegfny i looked at your webtoon, you don't cite others. You made these works all by yourself? you don't cite anyone else but you? Intro Part 1 Auntie I Don't Want You To Get Married - 1 | Danielle The Girl From New York: Childhood (webtoons.com) I went to this page, i see you have an author pseudonym, but I don't see anyone else's name for coverartists or writer so, you did this all yourself? 6 Magic Cans of Happiness 2: Danielle the Girl From NY (Danielle The Girl From New York Book 3) - Kindle edition by COGGINS, CLARENCE. Children Kindle eBooks @ am*zon.com. If you did these works yourself, I am happy for you, I wish the works well, but I asked for collaborative work side other black people.

@daniellegfny As a black artist I Will take 100 superfly's or sweetback's over 100 gone with the winds. cause even if a black thespian gets an oscar for 100 films in a row, I rather the black producers/black directors/ black writers/higher quantity of black thespians opportunity for 100 films in a row @Chevdove @ProfD no problem at all, I asked a simple straightforward question, it shouldn't require that much debate , please go on

@Chevdove, nothing wrong with taking the thread in another direction. I was joking that we could start a new topic based on that subject.😁😎

Oh! That's great! I am so grateful that you even care to think about me! Take your time. I am still on a fact-finding mission.

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You alluded to fame having a price. This is true. I am not going to crack on Cardi B's dress or lifestyle. From everything I've read about her, she altered her body to look the way she does now. For those who don't like how she portrays herself - my advice is don't look. It does not matter what we think. Many on this planet who have access to U.S. entertainment coverage believe Cardi B is one of the world's most attractive women. And it has driven countless women mad with envy. If you look at Madonna, she used her looks as well to parlay her way to millions and worldwide fame. But that woman can actually sing. The same cannot be said of Kim Kardashian, who can't sing. But along with her sisters and neices, managed to rule the world of TV and tabloid celebrity for years. And they accomplished this with their looks, a savvy mother and an idea to galvanize millions of women to want to look like them and imitate their lifestyle. It has worked splendidly. It is not my place to criticize their looks or their right to gain fame and fortune. They did it. Cardi B is young. We don't know what she will do in the future. One thing we can be sure of. Unless limits or constraints are placed on writers or photographers, those who manage to become famous or infamous can be assured a lifetime of not just adulation, but physical and psychological fear as well. Being a stripper does not make one a prostitute. Do you understand the difference, Mzuri? You accused our Vice President of "sleeping her way to the top." Without any proof. You are no different than the racial bomb throwers on Fox News. The bottom line is this: Jurors decided the blogger lied when she claimed Cardi B was a prostitute and backed it up with millions in directed damages. No amount of hate from you is going to change that. Now, for the third time, where is your proof that our Vice President "slept her way to the top?"