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Lions are instinctual, humans are rational. So the roles that males and females have should be decided by the individual. Societal and cultural norms dictate the bounds of those roles. However the individual can choose a role that is different from those assigned roles. A healthy couple can navigate those differences so that neither party feels diminished. My belief is an individual should be free to define their role however they choose. Even if that role goes against the morals of their group as long as those choices are fair and equitable. A person should be free to define themselves. It is difficult to be the other. Homosexual, Bisexual, transgender, an artist, a thinker, a women who wants to be more than the caretaker,a man who wants to be more than the bread winner. And while some members of society may disapprove or feel uncomfortable, the don't have to the right nor responsibility to negate the individual's choice. Since all of the growth in a society comes from those who deviate from the prescribed path. Those deviants are our visionaries. They see the world differently because their internal world is different.

For some reason feminism and homosexuality is problematic for some Black folks.

Absolutely! lol. As long as children are not raped by anybody, straight or otherwise, to each is his/her own, in my view.

Allowing his mate to do the hunting while he sleeps all day waiting around for her to go into heat, killing any cubs he didn't father and kicking those he did out of the pride to maintain his dominance, doesn't impress me as an ideal model that should be translated into the present human life style. But the rampant male ego obviously comes into play here. Society may not be able to physically alter male and female distinctions, but the science you speak of will be able to explain why, as the human species continues to evolve, change will occur on its own making bisexuality the norm. A third sex might even emerge. The longer Mankind exists, the more mutations and aberrations will transform it. Nothing stays the same. There's no telling what will gradually come about and will be considered natural 100 years from now. The generations resisting this fluidity will become the past, not the future.

The females hunt and the male eats first and protects the pride, from outsiders. When the king is dethroned the new lion kills all the male cubs that are not his offspring. So it is a harem.

The lion has always been my favorite animal. Lion behavior shows us everything we need to know from a social perspective. 😎

I'm so grateful for @Delano starting this thread! Whew! That guy is stressful. Like you @Troy, I was loving how @Cyniquewould get at him! LOL.

@ChevdoveHi. Did you watch the World Track and Field Finals on NBC tonight? Weren't the relays thrilling! Our girls really did their thing, taking first place. The first person I thought about was you, wondering if you were checking this out. 😃

@Cynique Yes! Thanks for posting! I am so happy for our girls! Prandini is still my favorite but I also love the new kid on the block Abby! Of course, I am still cheering for the Jamaican girls too. They are queens.

What I noticed about the comments on this post. which was originally a negative dig about black women's behavior, was how quick all the black guys were in adding to the accusations as they proceeded to ridicule, dismiss and blame black women for what they perceived them to be, giving them very little credit for anything not connected with sex. But, oooh. the blubbering and bitching that broke out as soon as the subject of black manhood being compromised was broached. The response was an exercise in self pity and petulance over "brothas" being emasculated by the racist media. Frustration abounded as they whined about being "sissified" and "pussified". Indignation raged about others not seeing them as they see themselves, - the epitome of how men are supposed to be. Inevitably, the subject of racial unity came up, but the connection between it and the strained relationship between black men and black women was glossed over, no acknowledgement made of how this gap can be a hindrance to the goal of black unity. However, until brothas refrain from aiding and abetting the put-down of black women by whites, racial unity will remain elusive.

Well people can legitimately argue that i let Greg go on too long. When i first considered dropping him most were indifferent or wanted to use him for target practice. So i did not drop him. i suggested that i would “miss” him but that was because i enjoyed y’all’s reactions at times. When the posts he started began dominating the forum that was the end for me. Still sought the opinion of the other group members.

It's par for the course that POTUS will never satisfy everyone. There's no shortage of Monday morning quarterbacks ready to tell us what they would have done differently or better. 😎

Should he keep the ignorance? tee hee hee

Well, could be because "art is imitating life". All black men are not heroic brilliant paragons of masculinity and noble character - nor are all white men. Why look to the media to do what black men can do for themselves: present good images and exemplify admirable role models. America is run by white people who apparently don't feel the need to cater to the demands of its black minority. That's life, fellas. We've established the African Americans are not monolithic. And all of the hair-tearing and breast-beating for black unity will never amount to anything but misery loving company. So black men should just be the best they can be and try to set good examples for the kids they father. Each one, teach one. Stop expecting reality to conform to your dreams.

Ignoring the generalization about African women, men traditionally paid all the bills giving women the time to play their “traditional” role like minding the kids and maintain the household. Those days are over, as in many households everybody has to work including the kids. Kinda hard to be “mild and meek” when you are providing, often most, of the family’s financial support.

Men and women will typically disagree along the lines we see here. I tended to agree with Prof and Pioneer for most of my adult life, but we were reared in America and are from the same generation. As a kid, if I cried while getting whipped my mother would whip me longer and tell me that she'd give me something to cry about. My mother also told me if someone hit you you better hit them back, harder -- I don't care how much bigger they are than you. She was old school, and she raised me in a way people raised boys back then -- Don't let anyone one punk you, and you better not let me see you cry. Buy today's standards that might be considered child abuse 🙂. But it is how men were raised. My own children (girls) have never been in a fight. I don't think anyone my age (especially men) escaped childhood without being in several fights or even catching a real beatdown. This is why Will Smith's slapping of Chris Rock actually angered me -- and I usually could care less about the shit celebrities do. What Will did to Chris was a profoundly offensive -- bitching slapping a man in public. My gut instinct would have been kick Will's ass or die trying. Today I the best reaction was exactly what Chris did. I imagine if Chris started weeping that would have been acceptable, by today's standards, too. Chris is from my generation so I know his reaction and composure took a lot of heart. I know some men considered Chris weak, but I disagree. Today we live in a different world; we have little need for "real" men. Todays "warriors" drop bombs from drones they control with a joy stick from some trailer out west. What few real gladiators we have now can play football or box, but these sports are being frowned upon because too many men are getting hurt. Men are indeed different from women. I do feel that the culture is trying make men and women that same. I think this is wrong. We should use our resources to understand those differences rather than making believe none exist. One simple and easily observable difference is that men are stronger than women. Of course there are some women who are stronger than some men, but on average men are physically stronger. This fact makes a difference in how men and women behave and the roles they might place in a culture. In 2022 technology has rendered the need for physical strength obsolete, but this change is brand new compared to he 100's of thousands or years humans have been on earth. Our genetics and attitudes will not change over night. Maybe it is technology that has "pussified" men. Maybe some men see women exerting equal rights as a treat. Maybe some men do not like effeminate, gay, or any aspect of manhood that does not conform to the traditional standard of manhood elevated in any way. Men are different than women and those difference should be explored and understood in the context of a modern society rather trying to make men the same a women. Men will always reject that -- even if they can not articulate, or understand, exactly why. Women, on the other hand, don't seem to mind making men the same as women. This may be another manifestation of our differences. More likely women see these changes as getting the same benefits, rights, opportunities men get, something they deserve.

Can I please have the scriptures in their exact context so that I may examine them and see how accurate they supposedly are?

@GregSMH You are so dense and dumb - the total captive of your one-track mind. The "superior race" headline is a play-on-words pun referring to a sporting event (race) which because the members of one team ran faster than its opponents, their team proved to be the best (superior) one by coming in first. Your stupidity apparently extends to your eyesight, making you unable to see that 2 of the runners on the team that won the race were "white". Once again your lack of critical thinkin skills makes you mentally inferior and just plain stupid.

I am done, check please. @Troy

Well when people stop reacting to Greg's nonsense, he will stop serving his purpose and I will have to ban him. I can't have the forum dominated, unchecked, by the white racist rhetoric.

Yeah they'll give that to native peoples. Being raised in a white racist culture I too fell prey to the notion that Black people are inferior, save on the athletic field. The reasons are complex and I no longer feel that way, because I learned more that what our society shoves into our face 24/7. Now if I were a white person, born in a culture that reinforces white supremacy, and the marginalizes Black people, I imagine it would be even harder, for a white person, to dispense with the notion of white superiority. Besides, what would be the incentive? As I learned, travelled, and understood more I know white people are not intellectually superior to Black people. The science tells us this as well. The presence of a "Greg," regardless of their motivation or phenotypical characteristics, is a direct result of a white racist society. Indeed that is who Greg is: the manifestation of a white racist society.

White supremacy has created a situation or rather a complex in many White people that I have met. In that they believe they are superior to people of colour. They can't fathom that a Black person can be more intelligent or insightful than themselves. If it is undeniable that the Black person is more intelligent than themselves then that Black person is special and not indicative of their race. I take a certain pleasure in shining a light on that cognitive dissonance. Although I have to say I see a lot less of that in Sydney. Even though there are some of the same race dynamics between Whites and Aboriginals there is some level of acknowledgement of Aboriginal wisdom and customs.

greg consistently does this one thing and it confirmed my suspicion early on that he's a white nationalist in a digital blackface. greg writes white with an uppercase "W" and Black with a lowercase "b." Black people wrote Black in uppercase long before it appeared in the AP style guide. So, if this were a game of poker, that would be his tell.

I claim it all, with neither shame nor judgement.

I think "Greg" is a troll tag team made up of a 1 white racist and 1 black fool. These 2 alternate with their scripted comments which sometimes overlap, and one is a little dumber than the other.

I'm going with a white racist fool for $200. 😎