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Provocative. Troy it's all hole. I was waiting to hear your explanation.

Troy maybe let it go.

@Troyyou have overtaken my position about there not being any facts nor objective reality. Well done. I would have expected more stories, this is not a very robust simulation

Hmm Mel you have me thinking again.

Look. Man some of thr $h1+ yiu day drives me up one wall and down the other. But your my man.

Troy it is your show. I have nothing but admiration for the site. You can unbunch your undies. In case you weren't paying attention its your page your show. I have never suggested how to handle anything. Ever. Even if you ask me I have no criticism of what you do here. I havr too much affection and respect for you.

@Kalexander2 what's your perspective on Troy's statement?

@Pioneer1how about addressing the statements i made instead of redirection. How does respecting anyone's right to speak equate to inability to deal with conflict. I am going light on you, because this issue with Kalexander is still a sore point, but if you persist i will mow you down. Sorry but i have just set you up. You either have to hold your tongue (which your ego and pride can not abide or try to defend an indefensible position ((you have a real dilemma here, there's very little space for you to return the volley, Ace)) ((( luckily you believe that your anal cyst is up ro the task ))) ((((I initially wrote think but that isnt what is happening, you are all up in those feelings))))) . Ask Troy to explain the nested statements, and Cynique to explain the anal cyst pun. I am paraphrasing the words of Morpheus to Neo, "Pioneer isn't breathing air." Here's a picture of our relationship Mr Grass Sincerely John D.

Troy Troy can you please tell us all what my experience is online. Since you have stated I have limited experience with forums. @Cynique Troy you have made a statement based on your perception of me on your site. So can you please tell me what my experience is outside of this site. Since you have said that twice. Although now you ate asking me what my experience online is. Veey smooth transition. Will you switch it to a question, that yiu will say I refuse to answer.. Thereby trying to cover the fact that you made an amazingly either prescient or uninformed statement about my behaviour from one data point. It is not I who is avoiding a direct question, @Troy Just waiting for rhe redirect, where you say its a rgetiricak statement or hyperbole because you have no way of knowing or answering my question.

@Troy tell us about my limited experience with forums. Don't leave anything out. And you're the grass.

I lived there right across from the park. Where the school is located used to be a garbage dump. In high school a car load of the white kids from Westchester went to Hunts Point. After a few of them were served, they found out their gal was a guy. Two of my neighbors used to go down there on the regular.

You and I are sharing our perspective. That's not the whole story. I have made am intellectual observation which is neither psychological nor emotional .

My first home was Hunts Point in the South Bronx. And at 5 I remember seeing kids sniff glue. Hunts Point is still famous for prostitution. We had to pass them coming home at night. Up until about 2005 I still had relatives in Hunts Point.

Why do I have to defend the idea of being respectful to one another? And you wonder why more women don't post. Thank you again for an illuminating discourse. Respect isn't about how I feel it's about how the other person feels. This inability for empathy or consideration for the other person's needs and feelings are akin to the approach of racists, sexists and misogynists. Who can't see their actions clearly either.

A lot of the boys without Dads end up with drug problems. I can think of about six that I knew about in our circle.

Where are the Dads? On my block it was two parents. Amongst family and family friends less so. Did you have a two parents household? If not, did it make you deficient?

Pioneer if you are still waiting for an apology maybe You should think about frequenting more moderated discussions, where the discussions aren't so confronting.

You are wrong. This is a public forum and that was a toxic display of Black self hatred. Which had a negative impact on everyone on the site. You don't have a sense of perspective beyond your own feelings and experience. Thise arent leadership qualities Pioneer. You exceed in rhetiric but your logic is faulty at least in my opinion. When Black men talk about the solutions for Black people. And i think one of two things generally. They should learn to listen and develop both compassion and understanding. Or just let women run things. Read a little about Huey Newton, up until the drugs he did both, he married his desire to protect Black people with a vision a plan and action. I agree with Troy get out beyond your circle. It will expand your perspective. It worked for countless Black Musicians and el-Hajj Malik el-Shabazz or not. He was clear about looking for and exploiting weakness. He doesn't respect or fear you enough to apologise. You are the only person he turned out on the page. He found that chink in your armour. Which is obvious because displays of strengths also illuminate weakness.

That's ironic coming from you and directed at me. Since you didn't feel that way about Kalexander2 insulting your mother. As I recall you were prepared to fight over words from someone you never met. And everyone had an opinion on the matter. Did you or Anyone else say that it was fine? You have said my memory is faulty. So please correct an errors or presuppositions that you see. Or is respect only abstract, when requested for those you hold in contempt. @Pioneer1 Laissez-faire is more of an economic term than a financial one. I believe it's also a philosophical one as well.

I have listened to a few women and that's not the problem. The problem is they either don't feel heard or their positions arent being considered. You could ask women. Or you can find men that agree with you. That's requires less work and self inspection.

I will respond to this off-line. @Troy

Used but not respected.

Join the club Nubian you are attacking a man that suggested you listen to the choices Black Women make. Okay. Thanks Cynique your post encapsulated everything I felt.

@Chevdove

Bill Cosby admitted to buying drugs to use on young women that he was going to have sex. Some were starlets that he offered to help. He drugged them rapped then and then bought their silence. What part isnt clear. Je has joked about drugging women on three separate occasions. Two of which i posted. I had heard he was nasty pice if work by a friwnd who worked in the industry. Yiu think he doesn't belong in jail, okay. All if that sounds pretty clear. Perhaps it is not I yhat needs someone to clarify the situation.