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We are at the half way mark. Hearing yiu say I'm astrological gangster will be priceless to me but $50 from you. @Troy

https://money.cnn.com/2018/09/03/news/companies/cfxolin-kaepernick-nike-just-do-it/

Troy check for yourself and make up your own mind whether they are credible. That's exactly my position. Make up your own mind based on the information and knowledge you have. The following is the transcript of a conversation with The Bob Woodward and President Trump. https://edition.cnn.com/2018/09/04/politics/trump-woodward-transcript/index.html

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/trump-biggest-threat-is-new-york-2018-9?r=US&IR=T

@Troy is Climate change simple to you ?

A Minister is feeling a women up at a public funeral. Hown many levels of wrong is this.

Ok

I didnt skim over it. I was talking about my impressions and feelings.

Snoop is fighting with Serena and Venus. I didn't know he played tennis.

Cynique with Pioneer you attack him. I'll say he has a valid point. Or I'll find something inconsistent or illogical in Troy's stance. I get annoyed with Troy's arrogance and slavish devotion to science. Also when Troy was using numbers incorrectly to make a point I was on his hiney. You said I was humorless on the forum. You are correct. I even mentioned that to my partner. I didn't argue your point or get upset because it is true. I have affection for every one here. I do have issues with your attacks on Pioneer and his annoying you. Although he seems less bothered than you. Untruths , close mindedness ,bullying maliciousness annoy me. Troy is my boy and when I have gone too far out have apologised. That's my brother and we argue. Cynique your my older sister. Your thinking is thorough less so when your horse is in the race. However every do often you need to be a b!+ch. You also make fairly accurate character assessments. Mel that's my girl. Smart funny and into the occult. Pioneer is my younger thick skin and hard headed brother. Who despite some out there positions, generally wants to improve the world for Black People. Chevdove what a sweety. I can't argue with her at all. So you are all complex and a mix of elements I like and ones I have issues with Finally we have a self admitted deceitful malicious liar. A writer who plagiarised entire paragraphs . Saw nothing wrong with it. Then said it happened spontaneously. Yes but I feel that you don't consider that you could be mistaken. Even though you say that in your tag line I don't feel the conviction.

Why does it lead to disillusionment?

Troy if you can post Global temperature from 1800-2015. I will concede the point. Not percentage changes but the actual temperature. @Troy

It's a pro and con. You can check the source or you can see if it sounds plausible. I am not interested in rehashing the debate. Troy read the NASA first them if you want to discuss individual points fine. Don't just skim it read all the footnotes. I have read the entire IPCC report so come prepared.

@Troy Except now it doesn't seem so unlikely. We are at the half way mark.

@Troy What will you say when Trump doesn't make it to the New Year. https://m.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/donald-trump-investigations_us_5b85861de4b0511db3d229d7 Nixon was only fighting one case. Trump may have 4-6 cases. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-impeachment-latest-poll-republicans-democrats-midterm-elections-house-senate-a8517961.html

How many times has Pioneer1 insulted me nit nearly as much as Troy.

For people who think for themselves and @Troy https://climatechange.procon.org/#con-01

Can we move this to its own thread @Troy

Gore is not the only environmentalist associated with "An Inconvenient Truth" who has come under fire for personal habits -- producer Laurie David for her use of private Gulfstream jets. BTW the quote isn't 97% of scientist is 97% of climate change scientist. So if you wrote a paper about climate change and yiu said it was a fact that was considered an endorsement. If yiu wrote a paper and said you didn't know that was also considered an endorsement. I read the source material from IOCC.

Facebook and the internet as whole present data. Very few people check the validity of what they repost. News became infotainment in the 80's. You say think for yourself but follow scientist blindly because they are experts. Didn't doctors suggest their patients smoke? Read a boom called Radical Science it gives a insight look on scientist and science. It is also a fascinating read. If you want a window into the close minded of scientist read about hoe Richard Feymann was our in charge of more senior physicist while making the atomic bomb. He initially said no. His supervisor said he chose Feymann because he is he e only scientist that didnt care aviut rank or reputation. If you gitvthe science wrong he is going ti keep yelling. Ybat convinced Feymann. Yes but howdoes tgathave any bearing in the global warming debate. Remember it used ti ne called that butbyhe scientist had to change yhe name because itvwas obvhisky not just getting warmer. Also note that I stated. After havingblooked at temperature production and Co2 leveks from 1700-1980 I believe climate change ti be a fiction. However conservatuin of energy and resources is still a good idea. Interesting Al Gore has the opposite position. He believes in clkmate change but his actuins don't match his idealism. While i rode a bike to work 70% of the time for close to 20 years. We are both hypocrites however i am a better one than Gore. @Troy when i ess single i never git a flu shot. Yet i saw people who did, get sick. I rarely road public transport which are germ incubators. I rode a bike. I didn't have a sedentary life.

Then why do you argue that it is a fact. Is this a new technique. Using examples of positions I disagree with you. I will just postvthe following observations fit people that think. Climate scientist say climate change is an in convertible truth. When have you ever heard scientist make am absolute statement. I have a look at how much a climate change foundation pays its employees as a percentage of funds it spends. This is a general good rule of thumb yo use for all foundations and charities. Trump used hus as a personal checking account. Yhe Clinton used it to pay their own catering company more exorbitant prices. Al Gore made a kot if money from his film. And he has a training course. He flies all over the world selling it. Flying isn't good for the environment. Feel free ti check any of the above statements. The following or news clippings about Gore what an appropriate name. the gas and electric bills for the former vice president's 20-room home and pool house devoured nearly 221,000 kilowatt-hours in 2006, more than 20 times the national average of 10,656 kilowatt-hours. he also has natural gas lanterns in his yard, a heated pool, and an electric gate. While I appreciate that he's switching out some light bulbs, he is not living the lifestyle that he advocates." Also their models aren't very good a prediction. Plus they use temperature changes not tempature from 1980. Check any or all of those for yourself. In our debate I posted a pros and cons. Troy didn't read it. He said its too big for him to understand. An odd comment. When has the impeded an discussion that takes place in this forum? @Troy

Ironic coming from a self identified liar.

They are also unverifiable. Maybe look up the definition of: theory ; theorem ; hypothesis and fact. Although I could be mistaken.

Since 1997 until now 8 only had a TV for three years. And i didn't watch it every day.

Different phone. Chocolate ice cream is better than vanilla. is an example of an opinion. An opinion is synonymous with a view point. A perspective is by definition subjective and hence not a factual statement. I won't argue the point. Cynique its unanimous your intellectual chops are solid.