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frankster I far as I know .... when the West attacks an Arab nation - nO Western European nation does That may not necessarily be an enemy, but they CERTAINLY don't sound like they're friends to the Arabs. Sitting back and doing nothing while your friends/allies beat the hell out of somebody sounds like something you'd let happen to your enemy. Muammar was a Friend to Africa and Black Africans Perhaps. We don't need non-Black people ruling over Black Africans or trying to unite Black Africans; be they European, Arab, or Berber. Plenty of White men come along playing nice in order to gain control or be the "good master". We need competent BLACK LEADERSHIP....not beneficial White leadership.

richardmurray I comprehend your frustration, like james Forten 250 years ago, you have embraced the usa and both of you show a desire to compete side the other people in the usa financially, while in the legal confines. Do you suggest that we compete with others, illegally?

That Ideal law? 1. Except for very special cases (limiting the number to under 1000 per year) ALL immigration would stop for 10 years, giving the immigrants currently in America a chance to properly assimilate 2. The 14th Amendment is modified to NOT include the children of people in the nation illegally. 3. Most immigrants who are in the country illegally as well as their progeny will have their status reviewed case by case and there will be a decision as to whether or not they will be allowed to stay or sent back to either THEIR home countries or the countries their parents were born in. 4. As an immigrant, all of the money you make IN America STAYS in America. No more wiring money you made in America all over the world to bolster the economy of nations. 5. 10 years later when we start letting more immigrants back in the nation in mass numbers, there will be a more RACIALLY BALANCED policy that allows a proper and fair balance of Black immigrants compared to White, Asian, and Central American immigrants.

That is about as likely as the rising cost of cigarettes making smokers reconsider their habit, quit, and live healthier life styles...lol.

If there's any "good" thing about Trump. He has no problem giving White folks the business too...lol. He got on Marjorie Turned Greene's ass and dogged her out so bad, he ran the woman out of town. She had to quit congress...lol. It was all fun and games when she was sparring with Jasmine Crockette https://youtu.be/d00C7YmyEkU But when Trump got on her ass, all you saw was a white tail galloping off into the woods.

Troy @Troy Yep... Except for Black people being in tanning booths...lol...that was a pretty good summary of the points I'm making. I meant that as a joke. However it wouldn't be a bad idea for LIGHT SKINNED AfroAmericans to do, if they desired to get darker. I've actually considered it myself a few times. But I'd rather go with natural sunlight...lol. frankster You intend to implement a new imbalance.... By replacing the positions of who is Maligned and who is benefited.... Not "replacing" the positions...so much as REPOSITIONING (a combination of both). No Balanced is achieved. How do you know? It hasn't happened yet The Current US society promotes hences teaches that beauty is found in and among only white and light skinned europeanesque people....One shade Not exactly. It promotes LIGHTER skin in comparison to eachother. In other words, it proclaims white skin as the best....but tan is better than brown....and brown is better than black. So if you are teaching that beauty is only found in one shade.... But I'm not. To answer your responds....I teach that beauty is found among all shades in my home Are "all shades" found IN your home? It seems you are going to perpetuate the evils of the unjust.... This will just result in more suffering Why does it SEEM that way to you? Splitting hairs now Universe and Nature are the same No sir. They are two different words...with two different meanings. If you don't believe me, consult with your nearest dictionary. Yes....And everybody in One Group wins unless there is a dead heat or tie Everybody in one group wins if they're competing AS a group. But if the group is competing against EACHOTHER for a winner....then all who didn't win -lost. They did not win....they did not lose or lost either They still get a medal. And the person that came dead last made to that point hence they won by being able or qualified to participate. Being ABLE to win or being qualified to participate is NOT the same as actually WINNING. Just because a person is QUALIFIED for the job, doesn't mean he's going to start getting weekly pay checks just for applying or showing up for an interview. He has to actually GET the job. Yes.....it means he has qualified to be there You have a strange concept of winners vs losers...lol. I guess in your opinion Germany won WW2 simply because they participated. Mike Tyson didn't really lose to Buster Douglas in Japan that night. He showed up....that's all that mattered, lol. Yes...put you have place your preference for "Medium" at the top so I do? News to me. Yes it is bad....to the individual who it is foisted on Bad for THEM isn't necessarily "bad" in general. When Hitler was killed and stopped, it was bad for HIM....but good for the world. Concept is and Idea Standards are Physical Attributes Standards are ideals and expectations set to be held and compared to. In the West, the White woman has been the "ideal standard" of beauty that other women were supposed to be compared to. Concepts of beauty is often influence by Culture Politics Traditions and Society Correct. That's why they can be universal but not necessarily natural. Standards tend to be fixed Physical attributes....Universal No. Standards are also set by human beings, to compare one to another Western Imperialism imposed their concepts of beauty But the Standards of beauty are Universal SOME standards of beauty are Universal, and some are LIMITED by individual cultures. Yes and I have answered it.....you just do not want to see it Here is another Just a blank spot up there. About as good of an "example" as the first one as far as I'm concerned...lol. I think you have confounded yourself!!!! You would tell white people to love themselves instead of white and light skinned people??????? I think YOU are confounded but have projected your confusion....lol. Kind of like a little kid who runs around claiming that their mother is the one who is lost...lol. Go back and read the exchange more carefully. That is only half of what he is doing....Teaching love is commendable The other half....is that he is teaching them to hate all other shade and introducing concepts and conventions to support its institutionalization.... Which is a trait that should NOT be adopted. That is what you are copying and disguising it as self love Where have I advocated that we should "hate" light skinned or even white skinned people? Black Africans has taught how to love the different and the stranger.... Yeah, and look where it got them. I will not.. Then don't. But I see where you have or wants to..... if only to persecute and cause others to suffer whom you think are deserving solely based on shade of their skin. When and where have I advocated this? Only the short sighted selfish ignorant would bellieved that... What evidence do you have to suggest that the OPPRESSED are in a better position than the OPPRESSOR? Who WANTS to be oppressed? What religion tells it's adherents to BE oppressed? What advantages do being oppressed have OVER being an oppressor? LOL....you backpedalling from not promote white and light skinned.... Teaching love and refusing to promote them equally is hypocritical and in real life effect a total Lie and falsity. Would you say this of Malcolm X and Marcus Garvey...both who taught Black people to love themselves and DID NOT teach us to love White people? The Nation of Islam says to accept YOUR OWN and be YOURSELF. Would you call that "hypocritical" and a "lie" since they aren't advocating that you love White people equally? As what you are suggesting is definitely not needed It's not needed IF you want to maintain the society the way it is....with white and light skin being seen as favorable. But if you want to REVERSE THE HYPNOSIS and see Black love flourish, it's definitely needed. So You would refuse to promote a black woman solely on the fact that she is not "Medium"? What a ridiculous question...lol. Or are you moderating your position and would promote her regardless of her Sahde? It depends on WHY I'm promoting her. Of what purpose is she being promoted. So you believe that colorism is justified.... In some cases....yes. To COUNTER the injustices that have already been committed. An oppressing on sista based on her shade is Right and Just If she's a sista....no. You have certainly learned and inculcated the ways of the Oppressor. If I had, I wouldn't still be among the oppressed. The T-shirt is white.... I see a very light person...I do not see pink Then maybe you need to reduce the level of THC in the weed you be smoking, lol. It's affecting your eye sight. Please tell how? Basic physics. Shift the weight until it's even on both or all sides. Why not just add 15 to the 5.....and leave the 20 as it is See how that makes sense! Now how about you apply that SAME logic to balancing the imbalance of colorism, lol. Beauty Concepts have change throughout history.....without having to deprive any You're wrong. Black people and especially dark skinned Black people have been deprived in the United States and still ARE being deprived through out Latin America. I only know they came from Africa Not sure where you heard or read that at. Do THEY say they come from Africa? If I was to guess I would say Southern Africa around Namibia Botswana Area... Why "guess" at it when the Inuit (Eskimo) people THEMSELVES can tell you about their own history: https://www.itk.ca/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/5000YearHeritage_0.pdf I didn't read anything about Africa in that article...lol. So you will not promte white and light skinned blacks. ... You will divide black people into Jet black Medium and light skinned... They're already divided. Been that way for centuries before I was born. How is that not ......creating a hierarchical system with white and light skinned people at the bottom? Because when it comes to the system of "Black beauty" standards....white skinned and light skinned people wouldn't even be IN the heiarchy, let alone at the bottom of it. ProfD Impressive word usage there. It ought to be....lol. She ain't working. Her daughter took that hornet's nest she kept fooling around with, away from her. ....so she should have plenty of time to sit down and find the "concise" words for what she wants to say.

I think many if not most people will start trying to invent or develop ALTERNATE forms of fuel for their vehicles. Anything from liquor to rubbing alcohol. Or modify their cars TO support such alternative fuel.

frankster No..... they are not. When the United States, Canada, or Europe wants to attack an Arab nation....what other European/White nation comes to their defense? If our interests align....they can be IF. If "if" were a "fifth"....a lot of people would be stumbling around drunk as skunks, lol. "Hey dawg Cheers! Let's get some Reparations together." I didn't ask you COULD they be friends, IF the interests aligned, IF the conditions were right, IF the climate outside was 70 degrees and sunny. I asked you ARE they friends to Black people. And you know the answer to that. Most Arab are NOT the friends of Black people because many of them HATE Black people and see themselves as superior.

richardmurray The funny thing is white peoples statistics show, the majority of the people who come in aren't skilled or educated. It is a simple truth. Yes, a minority and large when you consider the population growth of the usa, but the ovrwhelming majority of immigrants to the usa in every year has always been unskilled or uneducated people. I don't know where people get this, idea that usa gets the most skilled people. I don't know where that comes from , cause whites admit it isn't true, so it must be some wild myth. First let's deal with the LEGAL immigrants........ In absolute numbers the United States...hands down...brings in FAR more skilled and educated immigrants than any other nation on the planet. Now whether those skilled and educated immigrants make up the majority OF the LEGAL immigrants who come here....I'm not sure. But we still receive far more of them than any other nation. However if you include the ILLEGAL immigrants who are pouring through the border like sand through an hour glass and being smuggled in here by the millions, then that percentage diminishes drastically. The vast majority of illegal immigrants are unskilled and uneducated. Technically speaking....they aren't "welcomed" here....but practically speaking they are because so many of them are being allowed to stay and work.

I like Stephanie Mills. Short little lady....lol. I've seen her in real life on several occasions....and that woman is short...and cute.

Not everyone has that option. Unlike those who live in the DMV, New York, Atlanta, or Chicago....most of America lives without DECENT public transportation to get to and from work and other places. Most need a car for a semblance of convenience unless they want to leave home 2 hours early and walk all the way to where they're going....lol. And by "decent" I mean safe and reliable....lol. Every major city in Michigan has some sort of public transit system, but if you take public transit in Detroit or Flint....you're taking a HUGE risk, lol.

ProfD Over time, there have been moments where Hollywood showed dark-skinned actors & actresses. How often are they show as couples TOGETHER? Either in the movies OR in real life? It's usually a dark skinned Black person with a light skinned partner....OR Latina OR White. Since the 70s you haven't really seen two dark skinned Black people making love to eachother except for the movie Queen and Slim Black folks cannot merely complain about how we are being mistreated &/or portrayed. We have to rewrite the narratives. People generally don't complain about something they DO NOT see as a problem. Just like most people on this site don't see an actual "problem" with dark skinned people not being portrayed as beautiful and attractive and wanted....it appears that most Black people in general don't see it as a problem either. Some of us do....but most could care less and are indifferent to it. I used to hear SOME dark skinned Black women complaining about it back in the 80s and 90s....about how light skinned women got preferential treatment. I don't even hear them complain about it much now. Many are either lesbian or with White partners. They won't even bother complaining to deaf ears about it, let along fight against it. richardmurray what do you want exactly? I am a little confused. I want you to stop being confused and understand, lol. Cynique while making sure to upgrade yourself from those with brown skin. How? I could cast you as a phony "blacker-the-berry-sweeter-the-juice" pimp who "gets off" from being a hero to some vulnerable self-pitying dark-skinned sista. I wouldn't exactly call myself a "pimp" but I have benefited....sometimes sexually...from speaking to and addressing the hurt a lot of Black women have felt for various reasons whether it's from being dark-skinned, being a foreigner in another country, coming from an abusive relationship, etc. I stand by that and see nothing wrong with it. who, were the tables turned, would act no different from the Whites he feels so oppressed by. Not exactly. Some of their behaviors I'd adopt, others I wouldn't. frankster Strange....but correct me if I am wrong..... The Algorithm to responsds to what you view most often by putting similar content on your feed....it is design to responds to what you view most often So if these article on clear skin blacks are appearing in your feed it is a result of what you are currently view or have habitually viewed I WILL correct you, because you ARE wrong...lol. As you've already seen, I haven't looked up or researched any of these individuals nor have I researched or looked up "light skinned Black celebrities" or anything of that nature. I'm not into celebrity gossip. Again, they're being PUT there....like many other ads that we don't ask for. Anyways all the pictures you posted are of Black People ....if that's what you want to call 'em. Yes...they are the being portrayed as the ideal.....they actually are commercial sales and marketing bodies and faces These are celebrities....not role models Anyone treating them as role models has made a grievous mistake.. I agree. However do you see the point I am making ABOUT them? The fact that these yellow/tan people ARE being promoted as role models? Yes.....who owns most of Mass Media outlets that these celebs work for? People who have enough sense to promote the IMAGE of who they want the future to look like. Admin No not exactly. Think of the algorithm's goal -- to maximize revenue (show you more sponsored content and ads) and it does this by keeping you engaged showing you what you "view most often" is simplistic. You view most often what you are shown and you are shown what keeps you engaged, so there is a strong bias to rage bait, celebrity gossip/scandal/humorous content, that is quickly consumed over things things requiring thought, contemplation, nuanced, or simply reading. Exactly, that's how they sucker a lot of people in. You may not INITIALLY be interested but pop up enough random material enough times....they're BOUND to send you something you'll like and then you'll go down the rabbit hole looking for more. But they hook you by offering you the initial bait you didn't even want or ask for. Like a drug pusher in the school yard. They keep pushing different products on you and different times UNTIL they get you hooked on something. I researched none of these people in any way shape or form NOR did I research "Black celebrities" or "light skinned Blacks". I haven't even said it....lol. There is no reason for the internet to somehow "pick up" on this and send me these images EXCEPT the fact that they know if you're a Black user and these are the images they are intentionally promoting to Black users. Look I know none of us spend hours scrolling through a TikTok feed, but a great many other people do Cynique probably does....lol.

ProfD Christian Nationalism is another aspect of the evangelical movement. Towns, communities & schools are being set up in a throwback to the 1800s. These people are predominantly white. You know from the teachings of Neely Fuller Jr. that White people are big on CODES and using coded language. Just substitute the word "Christian" for "White" and that's what you have....White Nationalists. They believe in preserving White Anglo Saxon Protestant heritage and keeping things old fashioned. They don't even trust other Whites if they're Jewish, Catholic, or of Eastern European descent. The Handmaid's Tale is a good series of novels and television shows to study to understand the thinking of a lot of these people because that's the type of society they want to turn the United States into. I doubt liberal white folks will allow the Chrsitian Nationalists to take over the country & force everyone to adopt it. It depends on what THEY'D get out of it. Many if not most so-called "liberal" White folks are only liberal because they have some sort of VICE or WEIRDNESS that keeps them from being accepted by the mainstream White society. They may be homosexual, into scat, avid drug users, uncontrollable urge to have sex with Black or Brown people...lol. But they're into "something" that is frowned upon by more conservative White society at large. They're angry at "society" or "White society" because it condemns whatever they're into. So because White society doesn't welcome THEM with open arms, they run and hook up with the Blacks and Latinos and preach an "all is love" doctrine. But ever when White conservatives start getting afraid over low numbers...especially in certain districts....they'll embrace their "black sheep"....the liberal Whites and their vices and the liberal Whites will gladly accept and turn on their Black "allies" and act like they never knew them, lol. The *smartest* thing the USA did was allowing people from all of the planet to come & live in this country. I don't know if it was the "smartest". Actually giving us Reparations would be MUCH smarter....lol. But I understand your point and believe that it's VERY smart for America to bring in people...especially skilled and educated people...from around the globe to come and help build up the nation's economy. It's called "brain drain" and the West has been doing it for decades.

To those of you who disagree with my stance on how to reverse the colorism in our community..... Please show me a few RECENT (within the past 20 years) examples DARK SKINNED Black couples being promoted in the media. Light skin is OBVIOUSLY being promoted as attractive and love interests in the media, so show me examples of how DARK skin is!

These 2 articles came into my feed nearly back to back this morning. Boris Kodjoe Told “Soul Food” Costar Nicole Ari Parker She Was Going Be His Wife While She Was Engaged to Someone Else Boris Kodjoe Told “Soul Food” Costar Nicole Ari Parker She Was Going Be His Wife While She Was Engaged to Someone Else Solange's son, 21, sparks dating rumors with reality star Tommie Lee, 41 Solange's son, 21, sparks dating rumors with reality star Tommie Lee, 41 Light skinned couples calling themselves or being called "Black"....hooking up with eachother and the media promoting it big time. I didn't research and I don't follow any of the actors or actresses in these articles so they're obviously being promoted to the Black audience and general audience as more celebrity gossip. But mixed up in this entertainment gossip is the poisons of racism and colorism by promoting light skinned "Blacks" as the representatives of the community and suggesting that these are the "ideal" hook ups. Also, it subconsciously promotes the idea that the "Black children" that result from such hook-ups would be the "ideal" or "designer" children in our community. Infact, the light skinned children of Kanye West and Jay Z and how they're being promoted are yet another example of how light skinned individuals are being promoted as the ideal representatives of our community. At the rate things are going with lighter and lighter skinned people being promoted as "Black"....who's to say that a couple of generations from now ACTUAL WHITE people will not only be accepted as but even promoted as the ideal "Black" people?