Pioneer1

I'd be interested to know the demographics of the lurkers.....lol.

Troy So, you are likening the US with a university PhD program? Sure. Both the United States government and a University are institutions, right? They both have limited room, limited roles, rules, and regulations. Colleges have limited number of seats the US has plenty of room and resources. Interesting that you say colleges have "limited" seats, but the U.S. has "plenty" of room and resources Plenty isn't the opposite of limited. This says that you too realize that the resources in the U.S....although seemingly plentiful....are also limited too. Our problem is how our resources are utilized and allocated. ...not just that but also WHO gets to utilize and allocate them. If nearly ALL of the resources are in the hands of the 1% elite of this nation and they allocate a LIMITED amount of those resources to the rest of the population; then it doesn't matter how much ABSOLUTE resources the nation has....the amount available for use is limited either way. Now if only a set limited amount of room and resources....food, jobs, housing, medical care...is available to the current population and you let millions and millions MORE people in, then that automatically means the current population will get LESS food, fewer jobs, less housing and in some cases NO housing. Which is what you see happening in America today. That excess population thins out the already limited resources available.

Troy Outside of a historical or traditional context, genetics plays little to no role in determining a person's gender. THAT is a purely social construct. And the problem with your statement is it mixes apples with turnip greens....lol. You're mixing genetic/phenotypical classification with social identity.

ProfD Right. Everything about this existence stops. No more chains. No, but the chains are replaced by worms wiggling around on your wrists....lol. Many people find enjoyment &/or pleasure in doing absolutely nothing. Death provides it. But according to the atheist/agnostic view point...they CAN'T find enjoyment or pleasure in death because they aren't conscious. They don't really want to be free. Like a drug addict, they just want to get high. There's a difference. Well..... I think what most people want is PEACE and HAPPINESS. Now if freedom will bring you that, then like Cinqe said in Amistad: "GIVE ME FREE" But if you're in bondage and being fed, clothed, and housed in relatively comfortable conditions and being "freed" means all of that would be removed and you'll be tossed out into the harsh cold winter with no master and no shelter either.........then many would argue that bondage is probably better. Yet, there's no way of proving &/or knowing alternative dimensions or realities exist other than one's own mind. There is plenty of proof. Has been for decades if not centuries. It's been proven beyond any doubt that Realities exist after physical death and beyond this one. Whether one chooses to accept it or not, is another story....lol. Freedom, enjoyment and pleasure are not synonymous or inextricably linked. Correct. For examples, humans find enjoyment & pleasure in s8x but procreating can nullify their freedom. People enjoy getting high until a terrible accident gets them locked up behind bars or worse. So you see the point I'm making of why freedom in and of itself isn't necessarily the ultimate goal for most people.

Lol.... You want me to dig up scientific text and research on an easy Sunday morning just to convince you of something you probably already know; that Black men tend to be more physically attractive? Your life experiences and observations aren't enough to draw that conclusion? The fact that White men have historically been insecure over Black male sexuality isn't enough for you to draw that conclusion? I could dig it up in 15 minutes, but like Troy on the race issue.....no matter how much information I provide it won't change your position of opposing mine. You'd either ignore it or poke holes in it and maintain your position -which is opposing mine, lol.

Troy Sure, if they identify as such. And that's the problem. In your opinion people can identify however they CHOOSE to identify and that identity will be accepted. I think this is a TERRIBLE mistake. You can keep them out the Black club. Yes you can. White folks know who is and ain't White and do a pretty good job of gate keeping....lol. If...by YOUR definition - not mine...being Black is linked to our ancestry and culture and the Congolese shares none of that, then they aren't Black and shouldn't be accepted as such. I choose not to and welcome them with open arms. Would you also welcome a man....who insists that he's a woman....with those same open arms? It's the same thing. Again, I assert rejecting, embracing, or assigning characteristics to people based upon how they look is simply dumb. How one looks is PART of their characteristics...lol. Again, would it be dumb for you to reject this person as a woman based on how they look?

When the doctor prescribes you medicine, do you try to figure it out....how it works....and "understand" it before you take it? Lol, or do you simply follow the instructions of one who knows more about these things than you?

When a University only has so many seats available for their PhD program and seek candidates to fill those seats they'll test a large group and weed them out based on who has the highest test scores. That's like you telling them that they can't have it both ways, either they have enough room and resources for everybody applying....or they don't. But they can't have it "both ways". What you're calling "both ways" or a seeming contradiction in positions is actually called analytical thinking.

ProfD Right. It has been happening for a long time now. Funny part is when people asked for natural remedies for their ailments & conditions they would get side eye from medical professionals. That is until industries started producing *natural* herbs & supplements which can be found on store shelveseverywhere. Many of those so-called natural herbs and supplements have been watered down and are next to ineffective. The medical industry made sure of that. When I started really getting into herbs and supplements and natural health back in the 90s, most of the herbs that you'd get at the drug store or grocery store were FAR more effective than they are today. Now you have to go to a Whole Foods or GNC or some independent health food store to get the real stuff that actually works or that is potent.

See, I don't think I'm getting enough credit for my prediction.

I called it, but where is the credit....lol.

Biology. Black men tend to dominate in the physical features that make men attractive to heterosexual women.

There's a book called "A Brave New World" written nearly 100 years ago that predicted much of this. It predicted that human beings would be controlled and manipulated by drugs. Not just the Speed and Meth being used in warfare to make "super soldiers" but also to use on the work force. Look at how many people are addicted to Red Bull and those Monster drinks. Now they're guzzling down those 5 hour energy shot which are straight up drugs in my opinion. ...cocaine in a bottle.

I don't.

And what did this do to the Black landscapers that I remember from the 70s, 80s, and 90s, who used to ride around the city with trailers attached to their trucks with lawn mowers and edgers on them doing yardwork for a living? What did this do to the Black teen boys who used to cut grass, rake leaves, and shovel snow back in the day for some quick cash to go to the mall? You don't see that anymore do you?