Pioneer1

If the benefits you mentioned, hinge on Black folks getting on code.....
Then the question is....will Black folks GET codified?

It's strange that we're having this exchange as I sit in a Panera Bread cafe arguing with a Black man who INSISTS that the older White Latina woman with a huge round butt  cleaning the tables is OUR SISTA and keeps trying to drag her into OUR conversation....lol.

1. I don't want her in the conversation....and she doesn't WANT to be in it, atleast while she's working.
2. I don't accept her as part of our race or people....and neither does she.

....but this brother is so obsessed with her pale skin and big butt that he would rather argue with me about her just being "lost".
Man, if you could be here to see the scene....lol

 .......ummmmm, but Fani Willis is kind of a FINE sista though, lol.
Especially at 50 something.

I mean.....

 

 

ProfD

 

Facts. Too many Black folks refuse to accept it. 

 

And another fact is, unfortunately too many Black folks simply DON'T CARE one way or another.
They don't care enough to even pay attention to the matter.

 

That's why GOP governors are sending migrants to sanctuary cities.

 

That's also why Governor Abbott can mobilize his national guardsmen to actually confront and defy federal officers on the border and President Biden does NOTHING about it.

He's literally instigating a CIVIL War.

Biden would be totally within the law to deploy the U.S. military down there.
 

 

 

 

Man, these brothers are something else........

I absolutely LOVE being a Black man!
Nobody else can get down like we can!

 

 

 

 

@frankster

You asked which one was me and which one was you????

Well.....
Which one was saying they did NOT believe in Christianity but believed in being "Christ like" and then later one claimed to be a Christian?


 

The Governor of Illinois starts begging the Governor of Texas to stop sending illegal immigrants up to his state:

‘I Plead with You for Mercy’: Pritzker Urges Abbott to Stop Sending Migrants to Chicago amid Winter Storm (msn.com)

This is obviously weak and pitiful for a politician to supposedly do to another on an equal executive level.
He has just as much power to send them BACK as Abbot has to send them up.
On top of that, why doesn't BIDEN step in and do something?
I already know the answer but....it simply looks weak and it's become obvious now that BOTH parties are in cahoots with eachother and playing games on the people.

But when was the last time you heard a Republican "beg for mercy" from a Democrat?

Well.....
First of all I did a brief check on both of them and it seems that Fani Willis has been divorced since 2005.

I'm still trying to determine the marital status of Nathan Wade but from what I've seen he filed for divorce back in November of 2021.

 

I'm not sure when these alleged affairs first began...if ever.

 

 

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When Nathan Wade was appointed lead prosecutor in the Georgia election interference case in 2021 to prosecute former President Donald Trump, some of his closest allies, lawyers in Cobb County where Wade practiced law, universally wondered, “Why him?”

My question is why is CNN even BRINGING UP this question in an atmosphere of supposed "objective journalism"?
Who cares "why him"?
Did they ask these questions of the lawyers who helped prosecute Bill Cosby or Jonathan Majors?

 

 

 

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More than two years later, questions are surfacing about Wade’s role.

 

And WHO'S asking these questions?

Are these questions being asked by his political enemies?

Why is CNN giving focus and attention to questions being raised about the man's obvious haters?

 

 

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One of Trump’s co-defendants facing criminal charges over efforts to overturn the 2020 election has alleged in court papers that Wade is romantically involved with Willis

 

And ofcourse a defendant he's prosecuting will make those type of allegations.
He'll say anything to take the focus off of HIM and what HE did and put it on those prosecuting him, but again....
The question is why would CNN even entertain THEIR questions?

Do they do this with the Black defendants being prosecuted by White DA's?

When Bill Cosby or Jonathan Majors questioned the ethics of THEIR prosecutors, did CNN or other major news outlets give voice to THEIR concerns and investigate the integrity of those prosecutors?
 

 

 

 

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and used money he billed the district attorney’s office for his work on the case to take her on lavish vacations.

Check out the WORDING of this accusation though!

It doesn't say he actually billed the district attorney's OFFICE for those "lavish" vacations!
It says he USED THE MONEY that he received from billing the office to go on those "lavish" vacations.

1. What kind of "objective journalism" is this when you describe someone's vacation time that they probably deserved from working long hard hours for 2 years trying to take down an oligarch like Trump, as "lavish".
As if he's some sort of dictator who is living it up on the dole of the public????

It's HIS MONEY and he EARNED it.
The man has his own fucking law firm and probably rakes in HUNDREDS of thousands of year it not over a million individually from his bids.

He didn't need that particular job to go on a "lavish" vacation.

Which brings me to my second point.........


2. How in the hell can they sit up there and PIN POINT the money he spent on a vacation as coming DIRECTLY from a particular assignment he performed???

I'm almost sure he used credit cards to pay for his trips.
I'm almost sure he didn't cash a check he got from the city of Atlanta or state of Georgia at the liquor store, stuff THAT money in his pocket, and then used THAT CASH to scoop up Fani and fly off to the Bahamas.

So how in the hell can they say it was THAT money he used????


 Imagine this.......

You work a job at Cosco.
Been working there for years and get your pay deposited in your account every week.

You:
Pay the mortgage.
Buy food.
Pay your phone and other bills.
Pay the car note.
...and go to a strip club a couple times a month.
 

And they claim you used "Costco money" to go to a strip club and exploit naked women!
And that gives Costco the right to fire you.

COME ON MAN.

 

 

 

 

 

I find this story VERY interesting, for multiple reasons.
So, let's look at the CNN article in the link you provided..............


 

When Nathan Wade was appointed lead prosecutor in the Georgia election interference case in 2021 to prosecute former President Donald Trump, some of his closest allies, lawyers in Cobb County where Wade practiced law, universally wondered, “Why him?”

Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis had the largest staff of any judicial circuit in Georgia, including salaried lawyers with more experience as felony prosecutors. Wade had once been a prosecutor briefly, but mostly handled misdemeanors and never such a high-profile case.

More than two years later, questions are surfacing about Wade’s role. One of Trump’s co-defendants facing criminal charges over efforts to overturn the 2020 election has alleged in court papers that Wade is romantically involved with Willis and used money he billed the district attorney’s office for his work on the case to take her on lavish vacations.

 

While the filing didn’t include direct evidence of their romantic involvement, Willis was served this week with a subpoena to appear at a deposition in Wade’s divorce proceedings.

Pallavi Bailey, a spokesperson for Willis, told CNN that the office will respond to the allegations “through appropriate court filings.”

Wade has not responded to CNN’s requests for comment and was smiling as he walked into a scheduled Friday afternoon motions hearing regarding multiple matters related to the case.

 

The situation has created a political firestorm for Willis, with Trump and his co-defendant arguing Wade, Willis and the entire district attorney’s office should be taken off the case. The allegations, if true, may not derail the prosecution, but multiple lawyers tell CNN that the appearance of a conflict of interest could hurt Willis’ chances of securing a conviction before a jury.

The judge overseeing the case said on Friday that he planned to hold a hearing on the allegations in early February.

Former DeKalb County District Attorney Robert James does not question Wade’s qualifications but does have concerns with Willis’ decision to bring him onto the case – if the allegations of an improper relationship hold up.

“If I had a personal relationship, I probably would have not done it,” James said in an interview with CNN, “not because there’s anything inappropriate about it, only because people will take it, twist it and make it look like there’s something inappropriate going on.”

“It’s, just politically, is not something that I think is wise,” James said.

Michael Moore, a former US Attorney in Georgia and a CNN legal analyst, said Willis should consider stepping away from the case given its high-profile nature.

“I’d tell her to get out of the case. I really think in this type of case with these allegations, this case is bigger than any one prosecutor,” Moore told CNN. “And I think probably to preserve the case to show what’s most important to her is the facts of the Trump case as opposed to her political career if you will at this moment.”

On Friday, the Republican chair of the House Judiciary Committee, Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan, sent a letter requesting that Wade turn over documents and communications pertaining to the Georgia investigation into Trump’s effort to overturn the 2020 election.

Republicans on the Judiciary Committee have long sought to undermine the credibility of Willis’ case. Her office has rebuffed previous demands from Jordan’s asking for documents.

An undisclosed contact with White House

The allegations against Willis and Wade came in a 127-page court filing this week from Michael Roman, a former Trump 2020 campaign official who was indicted over his role in the fake electors plot in Georgia.

Trump’s team is actively considering whether to join Roman’s motion, a move that would represent a formal endorsement of its allegations about both Wade and Willis, according to two sources familiar with the matter.

But there is no sign Trump is in a rush – he can amplify these allegations publicly with little legal risk while waiting to see how the DA’s team responds, the sources said. A Cobb County court has a hearing scheduled January 31 to address Roman’s motion to unseal documents in Wade’s divorce case.

Trump and his political allies are also seizing on entries in Wade’s expense reports that show previously undisclosed contact between Fulton County prosecutors and the Biden White House, claiming they are proof of a coordinated conspiracy to tank the former president’s reelection bid.

The expense reports were included as exhibits in Roman’s filing, showing a phone call with the White House counsel’s office in May 2022 and an “interview with DC/White House” in November 2022.

White House visitor logs from November 2022 show they do not contain any entries for Nathan Wade, according to a CNN review of those records.

Sources familiar with the matter tell CNN the contacts were routine, as Willis was gathering evidence and witnesses to testify before a special grand jury as part of her investigation at that time. One source said the discussions with the White House counsel’s office were about the process for contacting former Trump White House officials.

‘That’s ridiculous’

One line item stood out to multiple lawyers who reviewed Wade’s billing document included in the motion filed by Roman: On November 5, 2021, Wade billed the Fulton County DA for 24 hours in a day at $250 per hour.

“That’s ridiculous,” Fulton County criminal defense attorney Suri Chada Jimenez told CNN. “He could have billed 12 hours at $500 and that’s more credible and along with the rate of other lawyers.”

CNN has not been able to confirm what Wade did that day, but it was almost half a year before the special purpose grand jury was empaneled with investigative powers to spearhead exploring whether crimes were committed in Georgia by Trump and his associates.

 

Over the past two years, Wade has earned more than $650,000 for his work on the case, according to Roman’s filing which includes invoices from Wade’s firm. The filing alleges that Wade made more than other prosecutors in the DA’s office.

“Prosecutors must be held to the highest standard because unlike us poor defense lawyers they get to take away people’s liberty,” criminal defense attorney Scott Grubman told CNN. Grubman faced off against Wade as the former defense attorney for one-time Trump co-defendant Ken Chesebro, who struck a plea deal with Willis’ team last year.

Others who know Wade and spoke to CNN on conditions of anonymity now worry the allegations could taint Fulton prosecutors’ case against Trump.

“Now, you’ve made it that much harder at having a chance at securing any sort of conviction,” a lawyer who knows Wade personally told CNN. “It’s disappointing.”

Previous missteps

This is not the first criticism of missteps against Willis and Wade to surface in the high-profile case.

In 2022, Fulton County Superior Court Judge Robert McBurney, the judge who oversaw the initial investigation by Fulton prosecutors which lead to the historic state charges, disqualified Willis from pursuing charges against Georgia state Sen. Burt Jones, who also served as a pro-Trump fake elector. The judge’s decision came after Willis held a fundraiser for Jones’ Democratic political opponent and later informed the state Senator, he was a target of her probe.

In a court hearing on the issue, McBurney criticized Willis for hosting the fundraiser for a Democratic candidate running against one of the investigation’s potential targets.

“It’s a ‘What are you thinking?’ moment,” McBurney said. “The optics are horrific.”

And last year, multiple defendants in the election subversion case complained after they received an advertisement brochure mailer at their homes from Wade & Campbell, Nathan Wade’s Atlanta-based defense firm.

Fulton County Superior Court Judge Scott McAfee, who oversees the Fulton case, rejected requests from several defendants in the Georgia election subversion case to have a hearing about the brochure to try to force some type of punishment.

McAfee said the incident was “embarrassing” for prosecutors, but did not find proof it was intentional. “While presumably embarrassing on the part of Special Prosecutor Wade and his firm, this case should not be sidetracked by matters which facially lack merit,” McAfee wrote in his September 2023 order.

Who is Nathan Wade

Wade’s biography on the website of his Atlanta law firm Wade & Campbell describes him as a “former prosecutor and trial attorney” who is a “skilled negotiator who knows when to take a case to trial.”

 

He was appointed to oversee the 2020 election subversion investigation by Willis in late 2021, as their special purpose grand jury investigation was ramping up.

Wade & Campbell’s website says the partnership focuses on personal injury, contract litigation law, family and domestic law, and criminal defense. And says that Wade serves as Associate Municipal Court Judge and Pro Has State Court Judge in Cobb County.

Manny Arora, a defense attorney who also worked with Grubman representing Chesebro before he negotiated a plea deal, told CNN he is more concerned by Wade’s “utter lack of experience” more so than the alleged affair and potential payments being made.

“The bigger concern (than the alleged affair and financial payments) is hiring an attorney to handle the biggest RICO case, possibly in the history of US jurisprudence, when that counsel has never handled a RICO case before,” Arora told CNN.

John Floyd, a lawyer with deep expertise in racketeering cases, joined Willis’ team in 2021 to focus on the Trump case as well as others, including Willis’ gang indictment against the rapper Young Thug.

 

 

 

Lead prosecutor in Georgia election subversion case under scrutiny over alleged affair with DA | CNN Politics

 

17 hours ago, ProfD said:

Same here. The focus of my reading and how I read has changed over time.

Ofcourse, mine too.

As you could probably tell....I used to be heavy into religion and scriptures.
Not just reading it but believing in it and I was like that for many many years.

I can remember sitting on the stool and reading Bible verses and religious books out loud to my older relatives at 6 or 7, showing off my reading skills and how devout I was...lol.
As I got older and pulled away from religion I started focusing more on history and political books.
Now much of my reading is done online, but I still love the feel of a book in my hand.

ProfD

You know that WOULD be a pretty good idea for entertainment purposes....lol.

To be honest with you, I think Jesse Lee be clowning a lot with his coonishness.
I don't think he believes half the shit he says but says it for the shock value.
We wants to be relevant.

Manning....on the other hand....
I think that clown REALLY DOES believe in the shit he says and sincerely believes he has the right approach to "saving" Black folks.
I saw him in an interview with Lord Jamar the other week and he was talking about his more radical younger days.

I could be wrong ofcourse, but I've seen enough videos from both to make that determination.


 

ProfD

Well.....
If she DID choose us...could WE keep her safe from them?

Or let me ask the question another way......

Both Malik Shabazz (Malcolm X) and Dr. King dedicated much of their lives fighting for AfroAmericans.
Were we able to keep THEM safe from their enemies?

Black folks let MLK's OWN MOTHER get shot up in the church....and actually let the nigga who did it GET AWAY!!!!

You expect Oprah to put her trust and faith in people like THAT????


Oprah is intelligent enough to realize who supports her and who:

1. REALLY has her back and not just holding up a Black fist sign as a form of solidarity.
2. CAN and WILL actually do something to help her when she needs it.


You can't trust the typical nicca to stand up to the damn BILL COLLECTOR OVER THE TELEPHONE (tell 'em I ain't home baby) ...let alone the White power structure.


Black Rob said......




"I'm there for the fam that's there when I need 'em."
 

On 1/10/2024 at 10:03 PM, Troy said:

Interesting conversation.

 

@frankster did you profess to be a Christian? You don’t sound like one, God created the heavens and the earth, as pioneer wrote. But the religious dogma that was handed to us by our slave masters, has been perverted, perhaps beyond recognition. Maybe you are practicing one of the religions that Christianity was derived from. pantheism is incompatible with Christianity.

I didn't figure he CONSIDERS himself a Christian.....although I suspect he still believes in Jesus Christ as his lord and savior.
But I must admit.....
His statements claiming God and Nature are the same and then equating God to Heavens/Earth....is a bit of a twister for me, lol.

 

ProfD

 

Despite being replaced as a voter block, none of that will make Black folks look at the Democratic party sideways.

 

It's that "lesser of two evils" shit again.
Most Black folks....have FINALLY REALIZED that the Democrat party leadership don't give a damn about them.
However they realize the alternative "may" be worse if they do nothing and allow the right-wingers to just come in and take over.

 

It's one thing to have someone in office who doesn't think about you at all.
It's another to have someone in office who does nothing BUT think about you...and different ways to harm you.

 

 

 

More of our people need to start thinking about forming an independent political party . This current setup isn't working for Black folks at all.

 

Facts.
How long have we collectively known this though?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Chev


I hear the news reports of thousands upon thousands of immigrants coming into North America, but they are NOT illegal.

From what I hear is that it is the Biden administration that opened the borders especially for people from South America and Mexico.

What is going on!?

 

It's true, but it's not JUST Biden.
ALL of the President Administrations have done this since atleast back to Ronald Reagan...and quite likely before him.

 

 

Something is wrong with American government. 

 

Actually it's the opposite....
It's working EXACTLY how they want it to.

 

A sista told me the other day that something is wrong with the schools now a days because the kids ain't learning shit.
I said no...nothing is wrong with the schools.
They're operating exactly how they were designed...to keep the children ignorant.

 

 

How can this government welcome them in the face of all of the problems already part of our government?

Because the same ones allowing them in are the same ones CAUSING the problems you're speaking of.

The same ones COMPLAINING about crime and locking people up left and right are the same ones INSTIGATING and PROMOTING crime and criminal activity in society.

 

 

Like Malcolm X said....

 

 

"Now you check him out....
A White man will SELL you the liquor...
then turn around and lock you up for being drunk!"

 

WTF????


@Troy

Lol.....man...what in the WORLD are you doing on the World News?????

Ludacris said:  Yuze a SUPER STAR boy....why you still up in the 'hood?   

Hey Troy, why were you marching up the street and into the store like you were getting ready to go in and beat somebody down????
Look at the clip again.....

You weren't playing when you went inside that shop.....lol.

I'm not mad at Oprah.
She knows who's buttering her bread.....lol.

Suppose she stops catering to White women and start featuring interviews with bruthaz like Sa Neter, Tariq Nasheed, and Dr. Umar Johnson.....how long will she last?
If the people who decide whether or not she keeps her network don't take her off, how long will she last before the show starts LOSING money?

Part of my philosophy is as long as you're a Black person not doing any HARM....you're OK.
Sure I'd  LOVE it if she used her platform and influence to promote more AfroAmerican economic and political power, but it's HER money and wealth and she has the legal and moral right to do with it what she pleases as long as it doesn't infringe on the rights of others.
 

Chevdove

 

I guess it depends on who they are shouting at and what are they saying.

I did not think that type of street preaching still goes on.

You must not live in a major city....lol.

 

 

 

I remember a few decades back when the Nation of Islam men would be in Black communities on the streets but they weren't shouting at anybody or inciting.

They would pass out flyers and very pleasant to me anyway.

 

I remember they used to go door to door also.
Not as much as the Jehovah's Witnesses, but still more than today.

 

 

 

They have centralized their government and developed a military system, schools, trade relations, airports, hospitals, etc. and interact with other cultures that help them and respect them for who they are. So when I think about the groups over here shouting in the streets, well, it may have been effective in the 1960s but maybe today, they may need to try other methods to develop their identity as being Hebrew Israelites. 

 

What do you think?

 

What do "I" think?

I don't think they should even CALL themselves Hebrews or Israelites....let alone develop that identity....because most of them are neither.

 

I'm still debating who the true Israelites are.
Part of me believes they were Caucasians who invaded ancient Middle Eastern civilizations....and part of me believes they were the brown skinned peoples with keen features who populate much of East Africa like Somalia, Eritrea, and Ethiopia.

The Hebrews almost certainly were and are Black Africans.
The Igbo peoples of West Africa specifically.

However most AfroAmericans are NOT descended from Igbo and shouldn't run around claiming it.

 

Most of them don't call themselves that because of any extensive research they've done on their background.
They call themselves than because they read and believe in the Bible and want to see themselves as "God's Chose People"....so they adopt that identity.

 

 

 

 

 

 

ProfD

 

Man I LOVE reading.

My Mother taught me how to read when I was 3 years old and I've been deeply in love with it since.
 

Yes, she was out COLD with it.
....and then checked somebody else in the audience.

 

On 1/7/2024 at 6:19 PM, ProfD said:

Considering the number of fruit balls and bussy bandits running around in churches nowadays, those rituals might be really weird.

Ofcourse natural sex between men and women will seem "weird" to an actual WEIRDO and FREAK...lol.

It's been my theory for many years now that one of the things that PRODUCES weirdness and freakishness is the inability of some people to actually have natural sex.
Most weirdos and freaks probably have some sort of sexual dysfunction/malfunction that prevents them from having NORMAL sex, so they resort to "alternative" ways of getting off.

I too believe that he could be Jeromex's pastor for real...lol.

Manning loves to quote negative statistics about AfroAmericans pulled straight out of his ass, too.

On 1/7/2024 at 8:32 AM, Jeromex said:

Our black cities are the most violent in the world; blacks slaughtering each other or committing acts of violence on other races.

 

Blacks are 13% of the population but commit almost 60% of all violent crime. 
No structure or discipline in the black family.

More White folks have slaughtered eachother in Ukraine in the past 2 1/2 years than Black Americans have in ALL of the 2000s.

37 minutes ago, Jeromex said:

that black woman ( sista ) seemed like she was on something; some type of drug.

She wasnt lucid and needed to disrupt and cause a scene.

Guarantee she votes for Donald Trump.

 

Well.......let's look at this from a LOGICAL perspective.

-She's well dressed
-Speaks with intelligence
-Speaks with courage and conviction
-Looks kind of thick like she's getting enough to eat
-And leads an entire church who obey her commands


WHATEVER kind of "drugs" you claim she was on, either:
a) Wasn't holding her back
or
b) Was actually HELPING her be successful.

Hell....maybe YOU should find out what kind of "drugs" she was taking and get your hands on some too so that YOU might have a chance at being atleast HALF as successful as her....lol.

This is getting worse and worse...........
 

U.S. released more than 2.3 million migrants at border since 2021, data show (msn.com)

There seems to be a direct relationship between homelessness getting worse and illegal immigration being openly encouraged and supported.

 

Did I hear talk about cannibalism in Africa????

I suggest people read (those who CAN read....lol) a book called:

 



This book goes into how sick and demonic a lot of White people were during slavery and how they would actually get off sexually and have orgasm eating the flesh of murdered Black folk.

 

Remember Mr. Fuller said that one day they're going to start having sex live on stage in these churches!
It's only a matter of time.

Really, things are actually going back to the way they use to be THOUSANDS of years ago when there were temple prostitutes and sex rituals for religious purposes.
 

I came across this old video of a Black female pastor who checked the hell out of Donald Trump in the middle of his speech when he started veering to the left.

 

I said "so wrong" because although I don't do religion....not organized man-made religion....according to the Bible and Christian theology, she shouldn't even BE a preacher or pastor.

However it seems to me that this woman has more courage and linear thinking than most of the Black male pastors OR politicians out there because she didn't let him get away with starting up a bunch of off-topic foolishness at her church.

She told him straight up....that's NOT what we brough you here for.
And didn't break her stride when he started apologizing but COMPLETED her statement as a matter of fact. 

I don't know too much about her but I respect this sista.

frankster

 

 

Well what do you think it means?

 

What it SAID....not what you're trying to "read in" to it.

 

 

 

Cool....I understand that you are confused 

 

Well if you think I'M the one who is confused....you really DON'T understand, LOL.

You claim the Bible, then turn right around and contradict it with some of your beliefs.

 

 

 

On that we will have to disagree.

 

We don't HAVE to...you CHOOSE to.

But that's your right.