And I'll say it again, I'm not a follower of TD Jakes or any of these other jack-leg preachers who are being paid to MIS-lead the AfroAmerican community.
I'm not a follower of Puffy's either though I actually do have more respect for Puffy than Jakes. 
Atleast he's real about being in it for the money and women.
He came from a background of crime and poverty to make a success out of himself......Illuminati or not, lol.

But I'm not going to ride for either one of them.

My problem is with how EASILY so many of our people are given over to rumors, innuendos, and the "lynch mob" mentality that all someone has to do is level a few ALLEGATION at someone and so many will readily believe them and even get emotional over them.

Imagine if this was in our own nation and some of these negroes were in positions of power like mayors, sheriffs, prosecutors, ect.....with THEIR mentality.
 

ProfD

I will admit though, he's gotta a pretty wife.....lol.
 

                  Apoorva Ramaswamy

I can imagine some silly niccas would trot down to the polls and vote for him just to sit up and look at her for 4 years, lol.

ProfD

Well.....
The question we should ask ourselves is, WOULD they help AfroAmericans even IF they had the power you say they didn't have?

If they aren't using what little power they DO have to help their own, what would they do if they were given more?

Let me say from the jump, I'm not saying either of the two are guilty or innocent of what they are being accused of.
I don't have enough SOLID FACTS to make an educated determination one way or the other on the matter.

But the way so many AfroAmericans on social media are going after TD Jakes and Puff Daddy over alleged gay sex parties and freakish behavior is disturbing.

One or two people start rumors and they spread like wildfire around the internet.

Notice you don't see White or Asian people doing this exact same thing with White or Asian celebrities and ministers.
No matter how many are started, they dismiss the rumors as crazy gossip until something hard core is uncovered that firmly establishes ill conduct.

How many times have they claimed Puffy was guilty of setting up Tupac?
How many times have they claimed he was on his way to prison?
How many times have they claimed he was gay or was in the Illuminati?


I'm not saying ANY of this is true OR untrue...I simply don't know one way or the other.
But the way so many intelligent Black folks spread this shit and go in HOURS upon HOURS on social media discussing it like these are absolute CONFIRMED (there's that word again @frankster....lol) FACTS is a bit disturbing.

It shows me that many of our people don't know how to think straight or logically.
Too many act strictly off of their emotions and are easily persuaded, distracted, confused, and deceived.

If you're stupid and gullible enough to not only believe whole heartedly to the point of joining a "cyber lynchmob" in attacking your own brother or sister over something you have little personal knowledge of, you're not ready for nationhood.
 

frankster

Nature is Always Life Giving and Supporting....Humans Mostly see Nature as Positive

Here we go again...lol.

Repeating the same thing over and over and saying it with conviction does NOT make it correct.
That statement have been proven incorrect.
You can dwell on it if you like but I'm moving on.

Life can only be Transformed and or Transmuted

According to who?
Doesn't your Bible teach that God Created Life?

Yes Sir..... if you say that "I am black" then you have confirmed my assertion.

If I said "HE SAID he was Black", then I'm confirming it.

It is a part of the scientific process to continually and repeatedly confirmed theories

No no no....repetition is NOT confirming.
Here we go again....lol

And once again, if it's a THEORY then it has not been confirmed.

There is no confusion on my part... 

Really?

..Repeatable Confirming Theories is part of the Scientific Process.

According to Hawkins, there are no "confirmed theories".

Scriptures deliberately obfuscate

Just another reason for me NOT to believe in them or their "divinity".

15 hours ago, Jeromex said:

 

All kidding aside- I think the overwhelming majority of black people are awesome and great Americans.. That is my belief. 
anyway, have a happy new year pioneer1.

 -How can you say a people whom you claimed "totally lack morals" are now awesome people and great Americans?


BTW....
I celebrate the "new year" on my birthday, not when White folks TELL me to.
ALL of the years are "new" to them, because they just got here....lol.

16 hours ago, Jeromex said:

 His parents are hardworking and legally came to this country with almost nothing and barey speaking the language. Yet, they provided a structured and disciplined home for their children.

Im shocked blacks arent idolizing this guy.  

 

If they came to this country with almost nothing and could barely speak the language.....you should be "shocked" that they came here AT ALL.

If they were so hard working and smart, why didn't they stay in INDIA and provide a structured and disciplined home for their children?
You didn't have to fly thousands of miles to a land unknown to you to do that, you could have done that right where you were.

Chicago migrants: Johnson to use $95M in COVID funds for crisis; more suburbs pass regulations

Chicago migrant crisis: Johnson to use $95M in COVID funds; Matteson, Hillside approve crackdown; McHenry considers regulations - ABC7 Chicago

You say he doesn't have power?
Looks to me like Mayor Johnson has plenty of power, to help OTHER PEOPLE.

I haven't read any reports of him "tapping into" Covid Relief Funds to help the homeless who already existed in Chicago before the migrants came.

And he's also begging Washington for financial help to deal with them.

No talk of SENDING THEM BACK or BLOCKING THE BUSSES from coming.....just talk of how best to help them and the many more they're expecting.
 

10 minutes ago, Jeromex said:

Dont let anyone  hold you back pioneer1, you can get that GED, just do your best.

Don't LET anyone hold me back???

I thought you said nobody WAS holding us back, and that all of our problems were a result of poor decision making.
Now you're telling me that people ARE trying to hold me back but I shouldn't let them.

Either we have racist adversaries trying to put obstacles in our way, or we don't.....you need to make up your mind, lol.

35 minutes ago, Jeromex said:

Blacks do victimize others. You already know that.

You said,
"Blacks victimize their own people and victimize themselves with horrible decisions."
You said nothing about the victimization of other groups UNTIL I questioned you about it.

This seems to imply that victimizing "their own" and "themselves" are among the horrible decisions Blacks make, not victimizing others.
But perhaps I'm reading too much into your comments.

21 minutes ago, Jeromex said:

Yes I am so...... 

So by saying there is a TOTAL lack of morals in the Black community, you're also including yourself.

You admit to your own immorality, correct?

7 minutes ago, Jeromex said:

Blacks victimize their own people and themselves........

Are you suggesting that Blacks should victimize OTHERS instead?

4 minutes ago, Jeromex said:

It is 100% true and you attempting to deny it is absurd. There is a total lack of morals in the black community.

  -Are YOU Black?

ProfD

Sure. As I've mentioned before, they don't have real power.

They have the power of the BULLY PULPIT.

Adams and Johnson can both call press conferences anytime they like and have a nationwide audience to express any concerns they have, expose any scandal or injustice, or speak directly to the American (including AfroAmerican) people on any issue.

If they CHOOSE not to do so...that's on them.
I don't blame White racists for that....I blame THEM for not using the power at their disposal.

Excellent examples of limited power. Mayor Adams is catching h8ll for going against the Democratic agenda related to immigration. 

Ok....
So there's a difference between LIMITED power and NO power.
They do have SOME power, but they aren't using what they got.

Infact, I'd say neither one of them are using a FRACTION of the power they have.

Now that Adams is IN office, and barring any type of major crime he'll BE in office for atleast a few more years before he's up for re-election, he can just go INDEPENDENT where he's no longer answering to the Democratic officials.

We know the difference between bully and buffer. Going to war with buffers won't accomplish anything.

Most bullies are powerless without their weapons/tools.
Take the buffers away...and the bullies soon lose their status.

Great example of how most Black folks of any level of intelligence are keeping their pie-holes closed on that situation. 

Lol...well....some of the FOOLS are still diving into the conflict head first.

Like Flava Flav said: They jumped out of the jelly into a jam.

In other news, Kanye West has written a letter of apology to the Jews. Foolish dude. But, he has an album coning out next month

I tried to tell people about Kanye...they just wouldn't listen, lol.

That man is a clown and a half.

All he did was lose about HALF of the few Black folks who WERE silly enough to follow him.
Fortunately most knew better; but of those who didn't and thought he was making "chess moves" by running his mouth about Jews WHILE getting his money from them - after THIS latest episode of Kanye's odd-ball antics, atleast about half of them have enough sense to walk away from him now.

That leaves the other half who are silly enough to STILL rock with that goofy ass nigga.

For example:
 

Just an all around buck-eyed clown.

1 hour ago, Jeromex said:

It doesnt bother you that almost 75% of all Black babies are born out of wedlock to mostly young mothers who can barely take care of themselves who cant provide structure in the home? Also irresponsible missing in action black fathers.

it doesnt bother you that blacks are only 13% of the population but commit about 60% of all violent crime in America?

it doesnt bother you that every other race finds a way to succeed including those that are new to this country but yet blacks cant seem to get their acts together?

every few years their is a new “ thing” for blacks to blame . Its getting old and boring.

How about a little less talk about black victimhood and a little bit more constructive talk on better decison making..

No....NONE of it bothers me, because none of it is true....lol.

Maybe if they WERE true, it may have kept me up a night or two....but since they're not.....

You didn't answer my question about Jesus, btw....lol.

ProfD

White folks are in control of the immigration.

Because we don't TAKE control of it.

There are AfroAmericans in nearly every agency of government at nearly every level.

We may not always have the huge numbers, but we're there.

This includes the Department of Immigration and Naturalization as well as ICE.
We ALLOW them to have full control over the immigration policy even when we are in positions to exert our power and change things.

Look at how they did the Haitians a few years ago and Black folks in Immigration and ICE did nothing.

They are allowing other minorities to flood the zone in places that AfroAmericans do not own. 

But you have Black mayors going along with it.

Both Adams and Johnson could do far more than they're doing to stop it.
How about using their power and authority to end "Sanctuary City" status and turn those buses around before they get to their cities?

But they won't do it.
Instead, they sit up and complain and look silly.

Just like the bully, you're definitely not going to win by beating up the goldfish.

These "buffer classes" are being set up so that YOU CAN'T REACH the bully.
They are being used as "gate keepers".
You're going to have to deal with them one way or the other.

That still requires 1) being kn code and 2) major vetting of potential strategic allies.

One of the things I've discovered in dealing with people is that intelligent Black people tend to AUTOMATICALLY get on code for the most part.
Especially as individuals.

Now when you throw politics, religion, and ethnicity in the mix...those differences often lead to conflict; but when it comes to current events and straight fact....most intelligent Black folks are on code with eachother and in agreement.

A good example of what I'm talking about is the recent Israe-Gaza  Conflict.
Most INTELLIGENT Black folks instinctively knew to stay out of that conflict and mind our own Black business.

Right. Folks in other cultures are more on code. Many of them have been programmed wirh anti-Black sentiment. 

With many of them, "anti-Blackness" IS their code.
If they didn't focus on hating Black folks and opposing Black folks so much, they wouldn't have code OR a culture.

ProfD

That's a huge hurdle we have to overcome. 

It can happen, with proper organization.
But don't expect it to happen anytime soon.

Right. It's a battle that has to be fought on several fronts.

I personally believe dealing with the immigration crisis is ONE of those fronts.
How do you win a war with the racists if they are constantly sneaking in reinforcement to bolster their failing numbers?

Accepting the fact that we have no friends among other groups of people makes it even easier.

It's usually best to error on the side of caution and trust nobody.

However the smartest and most intelligent among us can strategize with CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS from other groups to get what we need and want.

This is different than saying:  -"Black folks need to form a Black-n-Brown Coalition to get along with the Latinos"

You have more success making coalitions with INDIVIDUALS than with entire racial groups.
 

11 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Jeromex


uh, because India is a corrupt impoverished country.

Ok....and who made it that way?
What ethnicity of people?

?????

frankster

That what I have to add will not change any of the Facts Germane to the case....The difference is inconsequential.

Ofcourse you don't have to change any facts germane to the case, all you have to do is add LIES and FALSEHOOD to it to make a difference...lol.

The judge thinks you told MOSTLY the truth, but sprinkled a FEW lies here, there, and round-a-bout, lol.

We covered this Already   here is "was actually killing living things.....which is a natural occurrence in nature"

Yes, we KEEP covering it over and over again because you don't want to admit to your poor choice of words by saying nature is ALWAYS life giving and life supporting.

Lightning cannot take....Lightning Strikes

Lightning "takes" atleast 2 things:

1. It takes a certain amount of TIME to strike something
2. It often takes the LIFE of that which it struck.
 

-It even sometimes TAKE your sight away temporarily if you are looking directly at it and it strikes close enough.


 

Life can not be destroyed 
 

....by humans.




 

Where did the "lightning" take the tree's life to....?

Where exactly, I'm not sure.
But OUT of the tree, that's for sure.

 

Where is the Life of the Tree Now?
 

It's a bit of an illogical question.
The tree is dead and has no life of it's own.



 

If you say I was or is black...Then that is you confirming my assertion that i am black 
 

No sir.



 

- that is you saying  i am black
 

Yes sir.

More specifically, that's me REPEATING that you are Black based on what YOU told me.

But it hasn't been confirmed.



 

if you say that i say i am black...then that is you confirming that i say i am black 
 

Yes sir.



 

- that is you saying that i said i was black

Yes sir.

However I would be simply confirming what you SAID...not what you ARE.
Two different things.

That's why ACCURACY matters.


You can....but most people want confirmation
 

Now we may be making SOME progresses...lol.


If only we could get the Bible and other so-called "holy" books and go through every verse like this....lol

Jeromex


uh, because India is a corrupt impoverished country.

Ok....and who made it that way?
What ethnicity of people?

15 minutes ago, Jeromex said:

Blacks hate when people of color ( from India) come to this country with little or money but find a way to succeed through hard work and no excuses.

Well first of all, if they had "little or no" money, how the hell did they make it all the way around the globe to the U.S.?
Plane trips cost money.....
SOMEBODY is bringing their asses here...lol.

My question for YOU is, why couldn't they have succeeded in INDIA with hard work and no excuses?

 

14 minutes ago, Jeromex said:

I do think some Blacks may be intimidated by the strong work ethic of some of the central and south Americans.

If their "strong work ethic" works so well for them...
Then why are so many of them hitch-hiking, marching, hiding up under trains cabooses, and sucking dicks for rides by the millions just to get to the U.S.?

Seems to me.....
If having a "strong work ethic" is the key to success, they would find MORE success down in Cental and South America where they come from instead of stealing their way up here to scavenge the opportunities here, right?

frankster

They differ only in degree....it is not a miscalculation.

ALL is not the same as MOSTLY.

If you were in court and admitted to the judge that you told MOST of the truth but not ALL of it, what do you think the judge will say?

Do not confuse semantics with accuracy....

But when it comes to science, there is little room for semantics.
Every word has a specific meaning.

The Tree Gave its Life....To support Life

The tree didn't GIVE it's life, it was TAKEN by the lightning.

The lightning is part of the same nature that you said was ALWAYS life giving and supporting.
Yet this part of nature ENDED a life.

That's not semantics.
That's a direct  contradiction of your position.

If you accepted and restated that I was or is Black ......Then you have Confirmed my Assertions of Blackness.

If I accept it and restated it I merely ACCEPTED and RESTATED it.
I didn't CONFIRM it until I VERIFIED it for myself that it was a fact.

As for the link you provided....

Sure something can be confirmed AND accepted.
One doesn't cancel out the other.
Infact, usually things ARE accepted once they are confirmed.

My point is that they are NOT THE SAME.

You can accept something WITHOUT confirming it.

41 minutes ago, ProfD said:

Not your fault at all.  Didn't intend to derail your thread. 

 

I can delete my posts here or have moved them moved to a new thread. if you wish.  Let me know.

I'm with that.

To be honest, for some reason I didn't realize this thread was started by richardmurray.
I thought it was started by Harry Brown....lol.

Harry doesn't post pictures or do polls so I'm not sure why I thought that....but......

ProfD

Yep.  Both she and Vivek Ramaswamy have something in common. 

Interesting that these Indian-Americans choose to side with white supremacy.

They were doing it in India helping the British to subjugate their own people.

Even many of the brown skinned ones worship white skin and believe in elevating White people.

Which is one of the reasons so many of them are allowed over here in the first place.

They are TOOLS of the White racists. 

This goes back to their history and culture in India where I was discussing in another thread how the White Aryans INVADED the Indus Valley region thousands of years ago killing and enslaving the original Black people of India and driving many of them further south.
To this very day there is a light/white skinned ELITISM that operates through out much of the nation.

We...AfroAmericans...are making a huge change in it because when they come here and see so many of US be successful and boldly and proudly proclaim our Blackness...it forces a lot of them to stand up and be proud also.
Because for centuries many of them were living as "untouchables".