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MEDIA THAT MOVES WE- TRAINING DAY 2001
One seasoned crooked narcotics cop. One eager to please rookie. What do you get when you drop this combo in the middle of LA? One helluva day! That’s what! Denzel Washington and Ethan Hawke are polar opposites that hold a tight balance from start to finish in this film and make Training Day a fantastic ride. Join the discussion and share your thoughts!

MY THOUGHTS

Ethan HAwke seemed like the same character in The Lord Of War
Caricature cop is more how I look at Denzel in Training Day

I checked 
1993 Schindlers list won best picture the year after Malcolm X in the 66th academy awards, unforgiven won best picture, which is the end of a western film era.  Al PAcino won for scent of a woman. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/65th_Academy_Awards
1985 - Out Of Africa won the Oscars during the year of The Color Purple, interestingly, Whoopie goldberg nor meryl streep won the best actress award
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/58th_Academy_Awards
 
Interestingly, when I looked at who was against denzel washington in 2002, it wasn't al pacino or clint eastwood, it was russell crow<who won in 2001> side sean penn side side tom wilkinson <whO i think is a great thespian but is more of a stage man>  side will smith playing ali:) oddly enough, showing nothing had changed in terms of playing biopic characters... at least till ray right. 
While Halle berry beat out  nicole kidman who won the next year <her first of two with the Hours, oddly enough another more negative character than her character in moulin rouge, so...> Judie Dench, who like williamson is british, is old, I don't think is favored, sissy spacek who had already won it through a biopic oddly enough, and zellwinger who will get hers eventually
My point being, the year they both won it, was interesting. in their competitors . 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/74th_Academy_Awards

Good point Nicole, white owned media, created a false narrative around Malcolm X , that the general white community grasped while also many black people who didn't like islam/his background/his positions acted as if Malcolm was being spoken of honestly by that depiction.

For me the film is a 0 from 1 to 5.. the plot is so silly. A lieutenant like him would not have some silly rookie in his car. 

So Nicole + Nike , is the Equalizer the hidden child between Malcolm and the Training cop? 
Or  is his Troy the hidden black man in all three characters: malcolm/training cop/equalizer superhero

Good point, on Black actors career choices. The lesson is, be very careful. I want to ask either of you, is it the black female community that leads to this viewpoint toward male black actors who play such visibly criminal agents towards black women. It is common knowledge that black women in the usa are financially worth more than black men , so with black women being more revenue, is the reception in media of some characters reflecting that?
Well, when parents let children watch the lion king and that romantic scene with the female lion on her back, you never know. 

To be fair, he never hurt a black woman as a fictional character. Malcolm reached out to a black woman and delroy lindo stopped him. Mighty Quin or Mo better blues he stands in the rain. Training Day he had a mestizo woman and he didn't even hit her. 

Nike, your facial expression when you refer to DEnzel as Don Pedro. I can tell you like Don Pedro quite a bit. I will not ask if you wrote about a similar character even though I just did

Nicole, most black women, including Nike, forgave Denzel cause of his looks. I saw Denzel in Fences on stage, the reaction by black women I will never forget when he came on stage, and I said specifically Black Women.

Nike, I think phyliccia rashad is unwilling to play that far from Claire Huxtable

The worst he is done, Virtuosity , I didn't like but I think I can recover, I wonder what you guys think about rewriting the script of a financially poor movie like that.