richardmurray

Chevdove made a comment on a post

This is my amendment to my reply

Obama has always presented himself as a statian/american that is black. And your correct, he did know and did use the black church/black leadership's desire to paint him the spiritual son of martin and malcolm , he could had said don't visualize me or speak of me as the descendent of the 1960s leaders BUT I argue, based on Obama's stated position , ala the young WEB Dubois or Frederick Douglass earlier, they both were similar. Douglass's whole point is that every person in the usa is of the whole and separate from most of it, regardless if they know or believe it or not. 

I think obama, kamala and may black elected leaders are in this philosophical mold. 

you asked 

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So the question for me is, did Obama want to use his Black identity before and/or after he became president? 

He always uses his black identity as a subset of the statian identity. Comprehend, it isn't that he doesn't know many or maybe most  whites in the usa and a large number of blacks in the usa  don't see the usa or other phenotypical groups similarly, but he doesn't care, this goes back to frederick douglass, who publicly despised any idea for black improvement that didn't involve full embrace of a multiracial usa with equal individuals. Obama doesn't publicly speak ill of other philosophies in the black community but he is firm against them in action or nonverbally.

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Likewise, does VP Harris speak at all about being Black now?

Did she ever identify in her conversations as being Black or ethnic to gain the support of Black people?

But now, should she become president of USA, will she identify herself in conversation as being Black?

Or will it be more highlighted that she is the first female president or both?

 

She is like obama as  I stated, as most black elected representatives really. Mayor adams and the city council fo new york city leader, adams are both black , but neither have a black agenda or black policy framework, both mention new york first, statian/america first over black so to be blunt, black elected officials hsitorically , including the south carolina majority speak of being statian/american first and black second. 

Kamala is statian first/woman or black second. 

... I can see Kamala using Schrumps publicized plan of executive orders, which are not laws to provide a level of effectiveness which will in effect make the legislative branch irrelevant and turn the presidency into a temrporary monarchic position, which if it occurs  may be denied its source in history books but thrugh my presence i can say was caused by donald schrumpf , shaking things up.