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@ProfD you said the ethiopians parents wanted him raised to be something else, no, they didn't. they didn't see the value in emphasizing the culture of their forebears. Which ... the funny thing is, the black dos community publicly spoke against black dialects of english, publicly spoke against black spirituality or cultures that black dosers had before the war between the states.  

Yes, medgar evers name is on buildings throughout the usa while the black community he fought for in mississippi/alabama/lousiana is still suffering, terribly.

that is not true, he has been given many accolades by many groups. I have seen him, he has many strangers looking to him. 

My point is, which you miss for some reason is that the ethiopian wouldn't suffer a sundown town, he would leave. Medgar evers comprehended that a people who learn to immigrate between states, flee from one state in the union to another, move from one state in the union to another, is dysfunctional. A large part of the black populace, fled the south from fear but by doing so, created two minority situations. a minorty populace in the south under a white community used to abusing /killing/enslaving it + a minority populace outside the south under a white community who didn't want them as neighbors [which black people forget, most whites in the north tried their best to stop black people from moving out the south]  and who criminalized them as much as possible to deter any betterment. 

I am fortunate, I know my parents parents story.  I know the partial story of my parents/parents/parents. 

Charles Blow talks about black people moving back to the south, the article is linked below. But for me he dysfunctionally misses the motivation for most blacks.

Yes, black people were and are financially poorer than whites in the usa, but black people fled the south because of whites. 

I will never forget the fortune of speaking to a family friend who said all the women in his black town was raped by white men, all, and yes, he was high yella. 

Black people in modernity love to talk about hanging or death or electrocution when it comes to the past. But, while the african american museum has an artwork for the number of hangings, is their enough space for an artwork representing the number of sexual violations by whites to blacks, all gender? IS their enough space for an artwork representing all the limbs whites took off black bodies? 

If you are a black DOSer and you want to live in the southern states, that is your business, but please refrain from suggesting black people in the past were simply in idyllic towns with the only harm of fiscal poverty about them. You don't need to lie about the past to make a future in spite of the past. 

And to that end, I said in this community black people in the usa need a party of governance. I emailed Blow my thoughts, his email is in the bottom link below. But, I don't comprehend how black people like him can call on black people to move back into the south and yet have no support for a black party of governance. 

After all the history in the usa, including obama, black people actually think if they had the majority populace in a state in the union that either donkeys or elephants should be the party that black elected representatives utilize? 

Seems silly to me. 

@ProfD plus @Pioneer1 discuss jonathan majors and how black people in government didn't help him.but again, i know of members of the donkeys or elephants in nyc who are non black while also people of color, they don't help their own. AOC isn't lifting the puerto rican community in the bronx. Asian elected officials didn't protect asian business from federal attacks during the covid. The one thing that troubles me is how black people actually think non blacks help their own , in nyc, they do not. And that explains why all the populaces seem , as media states, unconcerned. blacks + non blacks don't engage with the government cause all, ALL, the elected officials, from all the races do nothing. 

Black people's only flaw is many of us seem to think that non blacks are performing miracles for their communities, when they are not. 

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@Troy both parties, both parties

@Troy Your 100% correct, i didn't state the number to suggest it was always that way in the history of nyc, from the time of manahatte plus the surrounding land, through new amsterdam to today. And outside the time of the lenape, most people living in manahatta or the surrounding lands that make up modern nyc are immigrants , or not born in the city. 

 I am of the minority:)

never was,i guess your not including the time of manahatta or new amsterdam in nyc? cause immigrants caused the destruction of the system the lenape had or the system the dutch had. I can't imagine anyone can say the native american scapegoats white europeans by saying their immigration was never a problem, until now. 

Was nyc bettered by the first wave irish coming in? 

Was the white community in nyc bettered by the first wave irish coming in? 

Was nyc bettered by blacks from the south coming in?

Was the black community in nyc bettered by blacks from the south coming in?

Was nyc bettered by the italian/irish/german jews coming in?

was the white community in nyc bettered by the italian/irish/german jews coming in?

Was NYC bettered by the asian community coming in after the immigration act?

was the asian community in nyc bettered by the asian community coming in after the immigration act?

Regardless of whether anyone says yes or no to any of the eight questions above, positive or negative stories occur always in any situation. But, overall i think the answer is no to each, overall. 

@ProfD whomever raised him wanted what most parents want for their children, a happy life. 

Well, medgar evers had a colleague, some call a friend, who left the deep south to come to nyc. Medgar evers was assassinated/killed by whites, said colleague is still alive, old, a grandfather, has a very nice house, has money, friends and connections with many white europeans or those who are mostly descended from white europeans

A study recently said that 40% of people who live in nyc were born outside of nyc, that explains the problem, half of the people living in nyc don't know anything about new york city. And this connects to a larger problem, cause that percentage doesn't include people who immigrated from within the usa. To be blunt, my bloodline has lived in nyc for a long time and to those that like NYC in a general sense, this explains the problem with nyc of the past in parallel to nyc of today. People who live outside of NYC come from towns or smaller cities, in the usa or outside of it, or come from big cities that are culturally very different from nyc outside of it,  and don't have the comprehension of what NYC was. It is a lesson in the dangers of immigration. 
When I hear people speak of NYC and talk about fears I realize now, half of those people come from small villages so they are always afraid. Cause coming from small villages or town or cities, like chicago even, you don't comprehend nyc. 
Los Angeles is the second biggest city in the usa and is a quarter of nyc's populace with significantly more land. 

I realize that the Black populace in NYC became a populace, not a community with immigration over the past fifty years. I will explain.  It isn't that immigrants don't want to be part of communities or automatically hinder or harm communities. That isn't how immigration and sequentially immigrants harm community, in general. I see the issue. when i think about black people from st croix , black people from jamaica, black people from congo, can they really relate off the plane to a black doser? yes, both are black humans, but culturally the subtleties are not the same. Someone in this online forum once said they were most happy about black people from outside the usa entering into the black mold to lessen the influence of descended of enslaved blacks and i comprehended then why, but i wish i could had refuted them with the following recent thought. 

The time it takes for black immigrant populaces to find a balance to the descended of enslaved has stymied both or definitely hurt any black person trying to strengthen the black populace in the usa.

Eviline in the original stage production of the WIZ, it occured to me, is the wiz film a multiverse? Cause Evilline in the film is dressed significantly different as well as Glinda as well as Dorothy in the film? 

Glinda in the original Wiz

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In my following comment I will use the following terms defined as such

people of color - humans who are not of the dual racial category, white european.

one of the things i rarely, very rarely, seem to read in posts of this subject is mention of parents. How one is reared matters. and it seems few people of color today seem to realize how most of the fscally better off people of color for centuries raised their children to be white european philes.  and that kind of rearing can be maintained through a life when the people your parents raise you to love ar ein control. 

will you get this @aMhayes it is historical fiction, why don't you and @Milton work on a historical fiction together? 

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You can see the film for free at the folllowing link, doesn't allow embeds. 
https://www.pbs.org/pov/films/howtohaveanamericanbaby/ 

MY THOUGHTS AS I WATCHED

please tell me someone else watched this, maternity hotel industry in the usa, the 14th amendment is the key legally, but this is a messy thing. Some of these women from china are rich, they simply want their child to be a usa citizen potentially for the college thing.  

4.6 billlion dollars from the chinese to the usa economy 

A chinese said the usa is god's country. A woman said where she is from in Yunnan, China, people starve to death. 

The funny thing is starvation isn't foreign to the usa, but people outside the usa don't seem to know that. 

I love how a man from china was shocked when his wife said she wanted a child born in the usa. and i concur to him , china is not somalia, china is not haiti, china is wealtheir than germany. To be blunt, black people in the usa always talk about how you have to figure it out. And the woman who suggested it to her husband, the baby died. The maternity hotel put her in isolation. 

I want to say Dr. Mo is making a killing. He has a public hustle. 3500 a baby. And he gets 20 broads a month at least. And the traffikers in china 40,000 usa dollars. from someone in china to make this happen. I will love to know how many rich countries populaces are doing this?

If you have 40,000 usa in china, and you can afford to give that you are not poor. You crazy though. 

A chinese woman wanted a checkup for her baby and it is like a penthouse in vegas, but the woman said it right, suddenly you have a ton of chinese women having babies so the price goes up. the hospital wanted 170,000 but lowered it to  10,996.50 for total .They claim the guy selling meth right now is a bad guy. 

A woman that was a "boss lady" had a husband who divorced her so she had to sell the house she did maternity hotels in the usa. He is leaving her and the child they have together.

The woman that lost the baby, she is a mistress. She came from a poor villlage. The  guy is older. 

MY THOUGHTS AFTER WATCHING

Most people in the usa or outside of it are financially poor. But for the wealthy who live outside the wealthy white european fold[USA= Western Europe], an imbalanced relationship with the countries they are from exists with the usa. The problem isn't wealth outside the usa, for the wealthy outside the usa, it is the safety net of descendants. I think of Mrs . Parkington. [free to view]

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And I realize through this film, a culture  is growing or a heritage has been made, that the wealthy outside the usa have of wanting protection for their next generations. A billionaire in china today, can't guarantee a financial safety net to their forebears of the same quality as in the usa. To rephrase, paris hiltons and the like are less possible in china. 

Members of the black dos community  in the usa who always talk about bootstraps to other black people shall love china then? right? 

Why is she angry? 

thank you @aMhayes  

Can you state which philosophical ways? no answer is wrong

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@ProfD yes, non black owned media in the usa pushes a negative + false storyline. But black media tends to push a false storyline, not negative in intention but a lie.

@ProfD Well, just for the record my point wasn't directed toward you but in media in the usa, black + non black.

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I know one thing, every single angry black person in the usa was not and is not mentally ill. 

The video below gives various examples , but please tell me yours. I ask cause i have my schedule for 2024 nearly complete outside two projects. One I am nearly there, but the other is still uncertain in my mind. The following video's arena of discussion addresses some of my brainstorming for something else. 
So... What fictional story will you like to see told through a different philosophical lens ? 

Mace Windu and Qui-Gon Jinn didn’t always see eye-to-eye. But they respected each other and were friends; now, Windu will honor the memory of his fallen Jedi brother with a special mission.

StarWars.com is excited to reveal Star Wars: The Glass Abyss < https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/735099/star-wars-mace-windu-the-glass-abyss-by-steven-barnes/ >, a new novel coming August 6, 2024, from Random House Worlds. Set after the death of Qui-Gon at the hands of Darth Maul, a saddened Mace Windu finds himself thrust into an adventure upon receiving a posthumous message from Jinn. The book is a return to Star Wars for author Steven Barnes, writer of the Star Wars Legends classic The Cestus Deception, as well as over 30 sci-fi novels and various TV series.

“I was thrilled to be asked to write The Glass Abyss, with an opportunity to explore Mace Windu,” Barnes tells StarWars.com. “I was busy with television work…but how could I pass THIS up? A chance to wield the purple lightsaber? Hah! So, with the support of a great team, I crafted a story of mystery, adventure, betrayal, and romance on a new planet, Metagos, a seething criminal cess-pool that was once a thriving and beautiful world, a place where a single supreme warrior, willing to risk all, can make the ultimate difference. At all times I remembered there is only one goal in writing such a book: to be true to the mythos, and thrill the fans. To give them the fun, suspense, and heart-stopping action they've come to expect from one of our greatest mythologies, and create more of an inner world for one of the most powerful Jedi in the galaxy. I can't wait to share The Glass Abyss with the fans. Heck…I can't wait to read it myself.”

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Jedi Master Mace Windu travels to a dangerous, remote planet on a mission that challenges even his deadly prowess—all to fulfill Qui-Gon’s last request. 

The Jedi are reeling from Qui-Gon Jinn’s sudden death at the hands of a Sith. Jedi Master Mace Windu’s feelings about Qui-Gon have always been complicated, and have not been made any simpler in death. While they often disagreed, Mace valued Qui-Gon's unique perspective, and their shared dedication to the Force made them allies. Without Qui-Gon and his unorthodox views, Mace feels out of balance. 

While considering his fallen friend’s legacy, Mace is surprised to receive a final message from Qui-Gon, marked to be delivered to Mace on the event of Qui-Gon’s death. The message contains a last request: a plea to help the Outer Rim planet of Metagos. 

Many years ago, a violent solar flare transformed the surface of the desert planet into a landscape of irradiated glass—as beautiful as it is dangerous. Now most of the surviving inhabitants live underground, where rival clans fight to control the planet’s limited resources. As a young Jedi, Qui-Gon protected the Sa’ad farming clan from the planet’s less scrupulous factions. The Sa’ad practice the art of dream-weaving, retaining their waking minds upon sleep in order to communicate and coexist with the wild creatures around them. Qui-Gon vowed to return if they ever required his aid, but now it falls to Mace to fulfill that promise. The Sa’ad’s leader, KinShan Nightbird, has begged for the Jedi’s help in freeing Megatos from the crime lords who threaten to eradicate her people’s way of life. 

Intent on fulfilling Qui-Gon’s final wishes, Mace travels to Metagos and infiltrates the enemies of the Sa’ad. But as the Jedi Master investigates the intricate web of adversaries and allies, Mace finds himself pushed to the boundaries of the Jedi code, challenging his beliefs and his relationship to the Force itself.

Star Wars: The Glass Abyss arrives August 6, 2024, and is available for pre-order now. <  https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/735099/star-wars-mace-windu-the-glass-abyss-by-steven-barnes/ >

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The same year in which a white female director earned huge acclaim for her film barbie, Nia Dacosta a black female director has helmed The Marvels, a film that has become in media , not reality, the tombstone of superhero films.

thoughts? 

I want to say one thing...the CEO of disney made an excellent financial note, not every film from marvel is going to break a billion, it shouldn't really, that is the history of movie making. On the other hand, while I agree with a reviewer [who used a different tone than the following] that films involving non white male christians in the superhero film world or multiracial casts has put off white male christian audiences, in the superhero realm which in disney owned marvel studios era was only two films: The eternals + The marvels, I argue is part of a larger problem.  The problem isn't multiracial movies itself. Black panther 1 and 2 did great with a mostly non white cast. Marvel's two attempts at making films that truly had a multiphenotypical range of characters have both flopped. So I argue the issue isn't a mostly white or mostly black film from marvel studios, but an interracial film is currently problematic. Now I do wonder about the xmen , how that will work. 

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Will you display your definition of historical fiction @aMhayes ? I ask because one thing I have learned looking at what I call, the black film industry in the usa,  is mosttimes, what black people do in an industry or artistic sector doesn't match what white people do but doesn't make it invalidated. 

To the example I suggest. Black people made so many home movies in the usa. And black churches were the traditional viewing place for black theater- shuffle along/black films- like oscar micheaux in most black communities, not theaters. so the black film industry with  black churches as its traditional gathering place of viewing is structurally different than the white film industry. Same to black stage, where the black church is the primary viewing spot historically, so... 

To that end, are black people in the usa, writing historical fiction like whites? no. First black people do have an oral base, as zora neale hurston's works prove, because of our enslavement, black history/culture was emitted through oral means mostly till the end of reconstruction where the black community in the usa, went on a literary route, albeit with one flaw, being a discarding of our oral heritage and how to bridge it in the world of allowed literacy.

So, I know in this very group @Milton does historical fiction, in the zone of biographical fiction 

So I think you are far from alone Amhayes, but the way in which many black artist compose historical fiction i think differs from ala morte d'arthur sort of arrangement.