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what you speak is what James Forten/ Frederick Douglass/ MLK jr/Barrck Obama said in more words or more eloquently or in how they lived their life.
But their lives prove that other humans are not always in concurrence to that standing. and that is my point. I don't speak of tribes because it is the most positive plus effective end, the most effective end for humans is to treat all life on earth with the same love or consideration each human will want to themselves, but that isn't how humanity operates.
yes, i think that in the population of the usa is already brewing a people who will functionalize your way [or at least try to] , the way many other black people in the usa today adhere to, what the raping slaver thomas jefferson wrote, what black people like james forten/frederick douglass/mlk jr lived their entire lives fighting for even when most black people opposed them. what barrack obama tried to uphold even though the needs of the usa in the immediate term warranted another way.
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4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:
So DOSers are a "populace" and not a "tribe"....ok.
right, all DOSers have forebears enslaved to whites but ... for me, a tribe is a group with a purpose. Not all DOSers have the same purpose.
4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:But these aren't tribes, they are nationalities...right?
yes, jamaican in itself is a nationality, but in the context of Black Americans <Black Modern Immigrants< Jamaicans/South Africans/Sri Lankans/or other national labels are black people from one of said countries who live in the usa today and coalesce with others from the country they are from. All Non Black Americans or non first people fit that mold. ITlaian american/japanese american/jamaican american. The USA naturally lends to people free in it from countries coalescing with others from whatever country they are from.
Because DOSers+ First Peoples have another original relationship to the usa compared to the rest of the people in the usa who are willing immigrants from some government outside the usa, they don't have the same way.
It isn't a problem, just a reality.
This is what whites are learning. Some whites in the usa didn't realize that as more and more other white nationalities enter the white american populace in modernity , they will bring another view towards blacks not dominated by the white anglo saxon protestant so to speak, and so these other whites wish for white power, wish to help their own, but aren't as interested in white absolute power. NYC is the proof. to be blunt, many people in the past suggested the usa is all about money, but it wasn't because all too often whites hurt their own ability to make money by their actions, even if they didn't realize it. But, in modernity, in the usa, making money truly has become the common standard and it welcomes all races, and wants a superior position over all heritages which not only includes black music's relationship to black people but also the white power heritage that was the engine of jim crow, which can't get the same numbers it used to.
A Billy Eckstine, a NAt King Cole today would be very fiscally wealthy with all their white european fans + global fanbase in general. What happened to both of them can't happen in the usa today. A black artists who has committed no illegality or even crime while being the best in the industry , can't be blockaded from profit just to block the image of a black person.
So.... nationalities in the global scheme of things, but in terms of Black Americans a tribe, mostly of people who , as you correctly state, don't go back because of the amenities of the usa.
5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:So under the DOSer populace, you have 3 "tribes"
-Black Statians
-Black Militants
-Black FreefolkWhich one are YOU, btw....?
And under the Black Immigrant populace you have a number of so-called "tribes", is that correct?yeah, in my assessment.
functionally, functionally defined as how my life has been lived, I am a free folk. Even though I have negative experiences involving whites personally as well as in my lineage, detailed events not the de facto my forebears were enslaved, and I don't deny thinking of assaulting whites from time to time, I have never embraced the usa nor do I live my life to kill whites or get revenge for any past crimes by whites to me or my lineage.
I want out, but I admit I want out my way.
Am I selfish or risky? yes both labels are honest to the way I Want out
5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:Is there any way I can have her ass PUT OUT of my tribe?
Who do I talk to about that?
funny, I don't think you should want her out, like yourself, she is good people.
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Thank you all:)
@ProfD @aka Contrarian @Pioneer1
your all correct that the commercial aspect of the music industry has pushed music to be leisurely heard or commonly known that fits the high frequency rate of modern communication plus the boring , as in grinded in not dull, nature of modern communication
While @Delano you are also correct and they concur that while one may have to be more an aficianado or put more work into the quality in which they listen, storytelling will never be completely dead in music and modern artists are still making storytelling songs with the same intention of those musicians in the past who told stories that opened imaginations with a tempo.
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The first #Black337 begins!
RMNewsletter 4th Version March 1st 2026
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I plan on posting a Black337 in CRliterature as an informative feature. It will be posted between this edition of the newsletter and the next. Follow me on deviantart, my handle there is HDdeviant. But use the hashtag wherever.
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Which is the best use of computers in your life?
If someone would offer you one hundred million dollars but only if you could invest in the global debt market would you?
Do you think revenge can be sated by fiscal capitalism? not merely in groups but also all individuals?
https://aalbc.com/tc/events/event/664-economic-corner-36-02282026/
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2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:
I haven't had a government job.
Maybe that's why I didn't see the effect of it.I applied for many government jobs and am qualified to get them, but still didn't get hired despite putting down my race...lol.
Not sure what was going on.exactly, most black people didn't. The private sector used human resource departments to avoid the lawsuits by saying they have jobs open to all, even though as a number of recent cases have proven, this was to cover them keeping the same nepotistic or phenotypically biased hiring practices.
And since most black people still live in the confederate states, well I don't have to explain how louisiana/mississippi/georgia/south carolina/virginia/alabama/florida/arkansas/tennessee white governments would not hire black people , and with the structure of the federal government, states hiring is hard to make a federal issues without blunt evidence.
So between black people living in white states that don't hire black people in government jobs outside black elected officials having the power to
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white private sector firms using human resources to dodge civil rights act lawsuits while maintaining their pro white hiring practices through nepotism or anti black hiriing practice
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most blacks didn't financially benefit. And those who did became the token blacks working at every white firm in the usa that couldn't afford or wanted to evade the lawsuit.
2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:Ok, thank you for clarifying that.
I was getting ready to send your ass to Haiti, but I change my mind now....lol.
hilarious:)
You didn't realize that?
I ponder how you couldn't realize that?
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In modernity, music is still loved by many and will always be, but has music's place as a cornerstone of black storytelling, changed?
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The reality is natural resources has always been key to who has and who doesn't have.
With the earth having limited resources and the universe having no limit, sooner or later, the technology will allow for battles over resources.
Which resource do you think will be more valuable in the future?
If you had to invest in the oil/oxygen/sand/carbon outside the earth, which would you choose?
https://aalbc.com/tc/events/event/206-economic-corner-20-02262025/
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Ending black history month with thoughtfulness:) hope #black327 is very eventful
I have confused you.
Black Americans is the root, these are all black peoples in the usa, gardless of ancestry, language, religion, this is all about the skin.
Black Americans in the USA today is composed of two main groups, populaces not tribes.
Black DOSers- descended of enslaved black folk which also includes those who willingly immigrated into the usa before the 1960s, like MArcus Garvey for example
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Black modern immigrants - black people who willingly immigrated to the usa when Blacks achieved in the USA complete legal federal recognition which was with the Civil Rights Act of immigration act of 1964 and who came after the immigration act of 1965. Yes, black people did freely immigrate into the USA before 1964 or 1965 but before then the federal legal rights of Black people in the usa were simply not in any way even to whites. Now states laws would take time to change but by the end of the jim crow era, 1980, they did.
Black Modern immigrants tribes are based on the countries they come from: jamaican/panamanian/south african/nigerian/indian/brasilian either their country is majority black and so they come from a tribe in their country of their country has a name for the black minority.
Black DOSers have three tribes from the creation of the USA and none are based on geography , all are based on a philosophy toward the usa or the whites in it.
Black Statians are black people who embrace the USA as their home, gardless of whites activity, gardless of the historic reality, gardless of most black peoples views towards the usa or the whites in it. . James Forten for example. WAs a businessman, fought for the USA, was a prisoner of war, and all of this is while over 90% of black people in the colonies were completely enslaved, and most who got freedom fought against the USA, yet he held firm. Black Statians are not about being in the majority, it is about the usa as their home , gardless of anything else.
Black Militants - I want to say a caveat, militancy is really about wanting to go to war. But Black Militants are really about trust. Black Militants don't trust/will never trust the usa or whites of the usa and want the earned revenge. Now the earliest black militants fought for the english, whites, not because they trust whites, but because they distrust white statians the most, and want revenge.
Black Freefolk- I use this term because, what many people don't seem to comprehend is when the USA was founded, over ninety percent of black people were enslaved to whites. What does that mean? That means when the USA was founded over ninety percent of blacks, had no allegiance or caring for the USA or for whites, so they weren't statians, even though many of them them or most their lineage would only know the usa as a home, it had no connection to them. But they weren't militants. Yes, they hated whites but they didn't want revenge, they only wanted away from whites. All they wanted was to be as far away from the colonies or the later USA or white people as possible. In them you find the back to africa movement, which at is heart to trying to get black people as far away from whites or the usa. Their influence is what made in combination side black statians the exoduster movement, which at its heart is an agreement between black statians + black freefolk. Essentially, one group says they embrace the usa, the other group says, they want as far away from the usa or the whites in it. So the middle ground is places as far away from whites in the usa. The problem is, white people historically, don't like black people to be undisturbed by whites wherever we live. whether an urban black region or a black town, whites have a heritage of negative meddling with blacks. Another subtribe for the the black freefolk are those Leaving the USA [which for the record always goes on among black DOSers every year, yes it has never bee n a majority act but people forget whites historically hated black people who spoke of leaving the usa. From most whites perspectives, histoorically, they wanted black people to embrace being enslaved as a positive, for white financial betterment... ]. Another subtribe are black individualism. It makes sense to me. how Black people descended from enslaved people who had nothing to do with the creation of the usa and were descended from people who wanted nothing to do with the usa or the white people in it would see themselves as individuals. Embracing a hard truth that, the usa is nothing to them , but since fate has placed them here, they just live, not because they are comfortable or love whites, but simply because like the ninety percent of our forebears enslaved in the usa when it was founded , they have no where to go or nothing to be apart communally. The slave quarter isn't a communal zone, it is pig pen for humans, so if the usa is merely a huge pig pen in a black person's mind, they why should they think communally.
For me, I don't know either of you well enough to be sure of anything . But based on communications in this forum, I think, cynique like yourself are Black Statians, the tribe in the populace of Black DOSers. Both of you embrace the USA.You pioneer seem to have an exoduster mentality. You embrace the usa, part of you loves it. But what you want for its future is black solidarity + safety in the usa, not as indiivduals in a hyper mixed brew but in specific locals. It isn't impossible, to reach what you want. Nothing is easy.
Cynique it seems, has a James Forten philosophy. She embraces not only the usa but the idea its white enslaving founders suggested , a country of humans, individuals who embrace the idea that each individual should be treated equally. Frederick Douglass/MLK jr/Barrack Obama all live their lives with this idea, started from James Forten's or similars example. Arguably, Black Statians like Cynique are closest to achieving their goal. because Black Statians like her were by default most willing to work with whites, they benefited them in the usa, where whites only started allowing the majority of the black populace equal status, 1980. to be blunt, if you aren't willing to work with whites pre 1980, while you live in the usa, you essentially have nothing. As black DOSers forebears were enslaved so they could provide no fiscal inheritance and as all know, over ninety percent of wealth in the usa is inheritance. Very few whites are willing to work with blacks who want away. Yes, Back to Africa movements occurred in the usa , but their white financiers were never representing a majority of whites.
So, For me, both of you are Black Statians.
The key for you to comprehend is Black DOSers relationship to the usa is historically not financial, it is pure philosophy, or vendetta based. This is why Black Modern Immigrants fit in so well with the USA, because their relationship is like all non blacks who aren't indigenous. It is, a financial desire to make money, to be better off. But, Black DOSers didn't originally have that desire, and even in 1865, when the enslavement era ends and jim crow begins. Black DOSers didn't come into the Jim Crow era thinking I want to be apart of the USA. Black Freefolk historically had to be convinced of the merit of the USA which many Black Statians have always had problems with ., ala the similarity of Frederick Douglass/MLK jr/ Barrack Obama who arguably all spent the latter years of their most potent time disliked by most Black DOSErs. Which makes sense, because Black Statians by default, embrace the usa no matter what. So faced with Black people with the same experiences who don't accept it at all, or who need convincing when whites make that nearly impossible, outside of faith based, it becomes a natural divide no bridge can cross.
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22 hours ago, ProfD said:
FBA/AfroAmericans in predominantly Black cities & communities scattered throughout the USA feel a similar sense of freedom.
similar, yes in very near modernity, i concur with many adjectives because in the 1800s the usa had many black towns and they were all under huge duress. What black people were able to feel in haiti throughout every corner of haiti in 1800, no large percent of the black populace felt in the usa till 1990 so... yes, I concur, but it isn't the same, and that matters in the details of things. again, how to get from here to there is important. and in the context of this posts original point about the role of the usa as an aider in humanity, I argue, the lateness of modernity is a discredit. Changing isn't unimportant, BUT, I find many in the usa tend to look at scenarios in humanity through the lens of change and changing doesn't undo what you were. The USA in the 1900s started or continued every calamity that exist in the humanity today. No matter how much multiracial peace exists in the usa today, 2026, that doesn't undo the damage. To be blunt, in most current events, the USA made iran, the USA made israel. I argue all the children killed of and between the geography of those two governments is all the USA's fault. ISIS is the USA's fault. The Taliban is the USA's fault. I don't know all the details but I know enough of the history to know the usa[it's government plus people or residents {residents include me} plus fiscal firms] are to blame for that entire regions calamities.
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On 2/27/2026 at 12:58 PM, richardmurray said:Black folks need the same mechanisms Jews have when they accuse people of being antisemitic.
I provided in the following comment an answer on how blacks in the usa need to change to can get the type of mechanisms you give as example organizations : B'nai B'rith & Anti-Defamation League & Jewish Defense League.
https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/12488-do-you-vote-for-awards-shows-to-go-away/#findComment-80419
then you state
On 2/27/2026 at 2:31 PM, ProfD said:Regardless of how Jews are subdivided
You reply to my comment with a discarding of my comments point, solutions/answers... things don't get better or worse by magic, they have processes, the future is made in the past, inevitabilities in the future stem from choices in the past.
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14 minutes ago, ProfD said:
I believe editing is still worthwhile despite any type of recording spillage. The official recordings should be on point.
hmm interesting, I want to know more of your thinking on this issue. What does the editing do, that I don't see? the unedited shows the truth, what does the editing provide?
15 minutes ago, ProfD said:Black folks need the same mechanisms Jews have when they accuse people of being antisemitic.
hmm well, from what I comprehend of the white jewish populace, if a similarity organizationally is to be made, then I argue the weakness is in one of three groups: Black Elephants/Republicans OR Nation of Islam OR the Black One percent.
Why do I say this?
The white jewish populace isn't one people really. They have three main tribes Reformers/Orthodox/Conservative... the Reformers literally have a statement saying, none of the defining patterns of orthodoxy, which means those who think they are right, as in the eastern orthodox christian church, are necessary to be a reformer. Reform jews don't have to wear the cap, don't have to speak yiddish, don't have to do many things that people associate with judaism. But they do have a huge synogaogue downtown manhattan with many rich white people what is my point. Reform judaism in my view, is a tribe designed in the USA for the specific purpose of maintaining a jewish tribal culture, absent demanding on individuals in it, unlike orthodox or conservatives, the rules of judaism.
The orthodox, the ones who wear the cap all the time, women have the nun look and et cetera follow the religious code, like the other religious extreme folk of christianity or islam. They are hyper into israel, whereas the reformers are neutral. The reformers love the usa, have many female jews in their body, unmarried or et cetera, which doesn't fit in orthodox jew circles, which is dominated by male jews.
Then the conservative jews, they are the old white european jewish families who who came to the usa throughout the years. They are the most embedded in white european anti jewish financial circles of money and power, they tend to be the binder between the reformers and orthodoxy who for obvious reasons don't get along all the time.
You say mechanicsms, but the tribes is the variance.
All three of the white jewish tribes in the usa have financial potency, not the same, the reformers are the weatlhiest , the conservatives have the oldest money, deepest connections, the orthodox are the poorest but through the zionist movement have israel as a focal point and cradle for orthodoxy to maintain. I argue, if not for israel i think orthodox judaism would be in serious trouble, population wise.
Whereas the Black DOSers , first and foremost are not white so unlike white jews didn't spend the last two hundred and fifty years in business as a majority, only since 1980 has a majority of black people been allowed to be part of the marketplace in the usa.
Second, the tribes of DOSers are many, more populated and not the same.
Black Christians- commonly called the Black church but again, modernity has made it more complicated. You have jehovahs witness, where in the past, the Black christians could be called the black church today... it is more complicated.
Black Muslims- which because of the immigration act plus islams heritage is muddy.The nation of islam will never dominate black muslim life in the usa , they had one chance and they failed.
My point being white jews have: fanatic religion/orthodox - religion in name only/reform - religion in secret- conservative.
Black DOSers have many religious groups now, so that simplicity is gone, which hurts organizations.
Then of course you have the groups unique to Black DOSers and their experiences.
Black Militants have always existed in the usa, again, every slave revolt is an action of black militants, lived at the same time as James Forten. but militants don't want peace, that is the point, they want to destory the enemy of the blacks in the usa who without no doubt in history are the whites in the usa, individuals be damned.
Black Individualist- primarily concerned financially, they don't believe, which is well earned again, that black collective action will come of anything. I can't say I concur to them, but I can't deny they make a truthful point. Black collective action always gets underminded by whites in the usa, to suggest some magic or learning strength needs to occur is an insult to truth. after five hundred years living side whites, the proof is in the history book. BElieve it or not.
Black Integrationists, whether they know it or not, want the usa to be a place of interracial even peace, going back to James Forten again. I get it. It is one of the most peaceful human stories. if you know anything about Zen , the black integrationist make sense. Zen says that all is nature and thus, even the most negative actions are not unnatural and thus if a black person wants to live in a usa of legal equality with the non black , even with knowing the history that is fine.
But the militant/individualist/integrationist have no bridge between them. This isn't like the white jewish trio, they have serious differences of opinion.
The white jewish trio are not based on experiences in the usa. they differ on how they interpret judaism, or the kind of lifestyles they lead, but they don't differ in terms of how to relate to others. the Black tribes have more complicated differences, which means it is harder to get cohesive organizations.
I didn't even mention the Black Nationalist, my little tribe. Not all black nationalist want to find a homeland, like me. NAtionalism isn't about demographic orders/rankings or militarism or finding a homeland. The NAzis for example were nationalist+militants+socialists three separate things that when together is interesting.
I didn't mention the Black Elephants/Republicans or Black Donkeys/Democrats. Two big groups relatively, who again, they can't even organize with each other, so how can they organize with other tribes?
But the point being, mechanisms require the tribes to be what they are not. Or for one tribe to put in serious work to make it so.
I argue the best suited black tribes in the usa for such mechanisms are nation of islam/Black elephants{or a section fo them}/Black one percent.
The conservative white jewish tribe is the oldest money in the white jewish populace. The Black One percent , again James Forten, has always existed. Now, many of them have intentionally whited their bloodlines, ala getting poor whites to literally mate with their children to start a process. Many of them don't care for each other. so they lack the cohesiveness, but Profd, you always talk about money, and knowing so many grand strategies, become rich and change the black one percent in the USA.
50 minutes ago, ProfD said:Racism as a system does not have to be eternal. It can be dismantled.
well... that all depends on what a system is
51 minutes ago, ProfD said:Sure. Human beings will have their biases. It should never be used to oppress, malign or mistreat others.
biases by default are positive or negative, both are eternal and by default a negative bias oppress/malign/mistreat/abuse another.
Thinking on @Pioneer1 query of critical race theory, in my view, the solution to bell's thesis is what pioneer always talks about, the law. Said law is how negative bias can be letigated. It will always exist and always abuse, by default, the law cant' stop that . but if laws can be worded very carefully and enforced with a true neutrality, which humans can't do, negative bias can be letigated against.
As I said, when you look at the usa historically, the biggest problem in the jim crow era is the law, but it isn't black people breaking the law as some blacks erroneously, say it is white people breaking the law.
In that smithsonian branch, they have an artwork depecting the number of hangings, but how does anyone know if that is true?
If you start from the thefts of our forebears: every single white person in the usa, or wherever black people were sent to in the american continent or asia or europe was aiding or abetting, a crime of rape/torture/enslavement/assault . Now, some can argue, all of that was legal, albeit criminal but once the 13th amendment was implemented. Every single black person hanged/burned alive/raped/attacked on the road by whites, every black person's home that was vandalized by whites/ every black person harassed while voting by whites, every black person attacked in a school by whites/ every black person abused by white law enforcers[miranda rights], every black person abused by white jailors[not given food, not given clothes] were all illegalities. But what percentage of white terror against innocent law abiding black people went to court? I bet less than one percent. So, the law is the only tool in the usa to make those who commit negative bias pay for the act, not stop the acts, cause humans are human, but pay for the acts. But, again, Trayvon martin kills that path. Emmit till killed it, but people can consider that the pass...
The usa doesn't have the legal framework to enforce law enough to make negative biasers pay, evenly.
Now maybe wealthy black dosers can pay for legal fees but how many crimes against black people still don't go to court today? that is a huge financial expense and Black One PErcent are very addicted to revenue return, the idea of investing in court cases that return no money is not appealing to them, but Profd there is it, get rich and change them .
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18 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:
Is it still needed?
I don't know what good it did in the FIRST place.
Who are all of these Black folks who are being hooked up and given good paying jobs through Affirmative Action and DEI?
Where they at?
I wanna talk to them....lol.Infact, I hadn't even HEARD of "DEI" until a few years ago on the news when White Conservatives were railing against it.
Same with Critical Race Theory.
I guess whether you benefit from it or know about it or not depends on the circles you run in, lol.
Affirmative Action....DEI...that's just shit you see and hear on television, but I don't see them even being USED let alone effective in real life.
Working in the 80s, 90s, and beyond....the Black people I worked around were getting hired and fired like other races.
Infact, Black folks were getting fired more than Whites were.
Where was this "affirmative action"???I had to apply to certain jobs and got hired or overlooked.
I'm not sure how "affirmative action" or "dei" helped me.Don't point to a hand full of niggaz sitting at a desk somewhere in New York or Washington and say "Black folks" are benefiting from Affirmative Action or call them "DEI hires".
That's only a handful out of MILLIONS of Black folks in the work force who have to apply and are subject to getting let go or demoted like others.
Millions who are either unemployed or under employed.....where is DEI or Affirmative Action for them???
I'm beginning to believe that many of these programs exist ONLY to piss off White folks and justify their angry and hatred.
Affirmative Action
DEI
Reparations Studies
Critical Race Theory
They don't really help Black folks or provide benefits to us.
They don't even COME from us! They come from White folks who invent this shit.
White folks made them up like straw men or targets......totally useless EXCEPT as something White racists can point to as examples of "reverse discrimination".well...
Each is distinct from the other.
Affirmative Action is really, a federal level legal action designed to make it where . Remember the KErner Commission [ https://aalbc.com/tc/profile/6477-richardmurray/?status=2685&type=status ] . Affirmative action says, institutions dealing with the federal government and by top down state and counties and city governments have to open up their hiring practice. The problem is affirmative action doesn't handle private business affairs. When colleges take federal money, when city governments hire people, affirmative action is the tool to open up uneven hiring practices.
DEI diversity equity and inclusion isn't about the government, it is about private enterprise, which evaded changing its practices with affirmative action in the past. The problem is, the USA has a free market capitalistic heritage, which means ownership has value. Ownership gives you power, this is the legacy of the enslavers. Even though over ninety percent of fiscal wealth is inherited, and over ninety percent of inherited wealth can trace its roots to whites using genocide to the first peoples plus enslavement to the black dosers , the modern legal code in the usa doesn't have a way of taking wealth and redistributing it for past crimes, ala no reparations as well. But what that means is, the only way to change private enterprise is through small measures with the hope that it will allow those known to be abused to take advantage and change the market environment.
Reparations isn't about money, reparations is about repairing, but here is the problem. How do you repair a relationship that was never positive in the first place. The problem with reparations is that those who study it, are trying to find a way to make peace between two people who never had any in the first place.
The history of black people is far older than almina. BUT, the start of BLACK DOSers from Canada to USA to Argentina to India to China is enslavement, it isn't even betrayal. And thus how do you repair losing everything? it can't be done. Money can't buy the past. Money can't buy the lost heritages. ... Money has limits. this is part of why blacks in usa and the other mentioned places have just embraced the places. Because all DOSers know, the past can not be reclaimed. The damage was too extensive, unless someone has a time machine, it can't be done. That heritage is what needs to be repaired, that can't be repaired. that was the whole point of the fiscal enterprise in all the oceanic enslavements, trans atlantic, trans indian, out of africa. to delete the heritage of black people to bind them to wherever they landed by truths that even if unshackled, learned, monied they couldn't undo.
Critical Race Theory started by Bell has one agenda, to try and create a new culture that can fit all peoples in it. It is a Black STatian, you and @ProfD 's tribe functional desire since James Forten, who again, was a black fiscally successful business owner who fought for the usa to be born. The problem is, the desire by Forten was always very complex in a country like the usa where so many in it , are in it, not to be mixed or work together , but for various negativities. lets call it like it, the usa has only three groups of people from why they are here perspective.
First Peoples who are original inhabitants and have suffered at the hands of unwanted immigrants, whether legal or not, or those descended from unwanted immigrants constantly
Black DOSers who never wanted to be here and were bred and enslaved till this hell hole is all they know
Immigrants who are the fiscal poor/unwanted/dregs from various parts of the world , starting with europe who never would had left the country they came from if rich/powerful/safe.
So no one is in the usa cause they want to be part of an interracial body. No one. thus why, bell and others desires always fall flat. The truth is a powerful things.
But, you have four different things.
A legal tool to even out the demographics of the federal government, which I argue have worked.
A soft tool that couldn't lead to permanancy in changing the private sector
A bunch of people trying to figure out how to repair the unrepairable
A bunch of people trying to figure out how to design a culture that no one is present/purposed for be embraced by all.
These are four unique things.
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17 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:
I truly believe that.
You THOUGHT about leaving......
But then you THOUGHT about how nice EATING is, and how nice it is to walk on paved streets to the nearest bodega for a snack or two in between arguing with folks on AALBC.............and changed your mind, lol.
the proof will be in the future, which I do not know, but if you are alive and wonder one day where is Richard in the aalbc forum, then if i am alive, you will know the answer and the proof is met
17 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:I won't argue with you over who is actually "in charge" in Haiti, but do you really think most of the people of Haiti are "free"?
well to be blunt , like many ideas, freedom is defined by individuals differently, for me, the freedom the Black DOSers in haiti have is that they are in a country that is actually black in the american continent.
Financially, no one , even haitians, can argue that haiti is near the fiscal bottom of countries in the american continent [ canada to argentina] and as I have heard many DOSers in the usa say, or imply as yourself, the amenities is part of life. HAiti at the moment, is one of the weakest places for amenities in the american continent.
But freedom isn't merely access to amenities or even legal codes, freedom is also the connection to a place. In that sense, Haitians will always be freer than other DOSers.
Again, the USA/Brasil/Mexico/Columbia/Jamaica /Trinidad/Puerto Rico/Dominican Republic former Spanish Haiti all have black people in them but all of those countries, are anti black. The black people in each of the countries I just mentioned spend most of their lives battling non black people, and for the most part losing, for an even share of things in said countries. I don't consider that freedom. SLavery isn't merely shackles, nor are the strongest cages always made of steel. And sometimes the strongest cage is the illusion you are not in one.
The USA is exhibit A. I don't know how many black people in the usa consider themselves free, because of pieces of paper, because they have a job or are living a happy life or have accumulated a certain level of money. To be even, if they measure freedom that way, then they simply do. But for me, I can't see myself free in a land where my larger people are always abused. And that to me is the measure.
Haiti is fiscally poor, but Haiti's problem is its neighbors, the neighbors of haiti always have been. None of these countries was pro black, including the jamaica's of the world. Haiti no one can deny is a Black DOS country, that is a rarity to say. That offers a kind of freedom to haiti that the usa/brasil/mexico will never have.
And I will be even to the usa and say, being a country for all humanity is easy to write down, easy to put on paper, it is another thing to manifest. The usa's biggest problem is that it is clear a majority of people in the usa want its original words written by white european enslavers to have value but words on paper, the law, doesn't have value, it takes heritages or cultures to make these things. The heritage path is dead, the heritage of the usa is totally against any peaceful multiracial coexistence. but, cultures have to be grown, they don' sprout from nothing. And cultures require people together , personal accountability can't get you a culture of a people.
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13 hours ago, ProfD said:
The craziest part is the BAFTA is pre-recorded prior to broadcast. They edited out anything political or & profane.
13 hours ago, ProfD said:Yet, they did not edit out the supposed Tourette's Syndrome outburst. The guy yells out n8gger when the show is dead silent & at the moment 2 Black actors are onstage.
well, the bafta's are live in england and with modern technology people will share the live edits, I have only seen snippets, which i imagine were recorded by people watching the live english telecast.
The financial question going forward is with modern technology, which allows anyone to record live performances and share them even before they are officially published elsewhere, does editing video material matter anymore?
Any artist that makes a mistake on stage? any mishap in an award show? any recording session in a studio thought by someone private? can all be recorded by an individual and submitted to the internet and then it is out there.
IS editing worth it? I comprehend lawsuits but... what can one really do to prevent exposure. BAFTA can't block the recordings online. No one can. Governments can't. The internet is too big a media space for that.
13 hours ago, ProfD said:Neither the guy nor BAFTA offered a real apology for the outburst. Black folks haven't demanded it.
when you say black folks haven't demanded, do you mean no black individuals? or a black organized body? I know many black individuals who want an apology, but i don't consider that a demand. But I also know some black folks who aren't concerned by it... so again, a group can't demand when a group isn't of the same mind
13 hours ago, ProfD said:Just another reminder that we still have a long way to go when it comes to racism. Hope it is not being normalized & accepted.
racism is eternal, unless humans beings stop using first and last names, racism will be forever. And as for bias, negative or positive, well they are eternal as well, unless some human beings stop favoring their children or stop disliking those who harmed them.
I argue that the better line of thinking isn't in annihilating, racism or bias, but in cognizing how to utilize racism/categorization/ranking more functionally, more honestly, plus learning how to handle biases, negative or positive, as they will occur in the future.
Cause racism + bias, negative or positive, have always been and always will be common or normalized, as humans are humans and while biases dictate what is accepted or not, their weights change in time, invariably.
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Common ground achieved, arguably my most positively responsed post. I am very happy:)
thank you again @aka Contrarian @Chevdove @Pioneer1
beautiful memories from you all:) thank you for sharing.