richardmurray
-
Joined
-
Last visited
Posts posted by richardmurray
-
-
I don't know where i conflated. I mentioned democratic socialism or democratic socialist , please quote me where I mentioned socialims alone or stated any elected fficial was advocating socialims.
and for the record, I didn't say the following
Critical Race Theory is a premise that posits skin color and race determine the outcomes of most decisions, laws and behavior in the U.S.
that was @Stefan whom i quoted as saying the prior. I have nothing I wish to say on that.
and I am happy the affordable care act has worked out well for you. It hasn't for all, or most, and was never going to, based on its construction.
3 hours ago, ProfD said: Such a politician has not existed for a very long time since money has run national politics for several decades.
I argue money has run the elected officials for the entire history of the usa, the founding fathers were the wealthiest or well connected white male slaveowners from each state. Money has always been the biggst influencer in the usa government. In my view, it will always be in the future. The key from a monetary perspective is when various financial actors are battling each other, which happens more often than people realize. Yes, the fiscally wealthy in human nhistory rarely like to add new members or desire new members added BUT, the fiscally wealthy in human history have always battled each other.
Nice point, wasn't what I referred to as the thing not done, for the record, but good point, i only oppose your temporal limit on the power of the fiscally wealthy in the government of the usa.
3 hours ago, ProfD said: But, the elected official who doesn't do the one thing they all do, will open a true can of worms, completely inevitable or foresightful at this point.
2 hours ago, Mel Hopkins said: First, Barack Obama did not “fail to win an Illinois seat by focusing on the Black vote.” He was already an elected Illinois state senator when, in 2000, he unsuccessfully challenged longtime incumbent Congressman Bobby Rush in the Democratic primary for Illinois’s First Congressional District. Losing one primary to an entrenched incumbent is not proof that Obama lacked political or legislative ability.
When did I say Obama lacked ability? I said, and i quote what you quoted from me
won by splitting the black and white vote
I said he won, how is that stating he is lacking ability. I said he failed and how he failed, which you admitted is true with the following.
2 hours ago, Mel Hopkins said: he unsuccessfully challenged longtime incumbent Congressman Bobby Rush in the Democratic primary for Illinois’s First Congressional District.
So why are you asking me for evidence to something that you know is true. HE failed and the reason why is obvious. but he succeeded afterward, which is what I said.
Now, I will ask you a question.
Do you want me to imitate sucking obama penis with my prose? considering your response to this post, the only answer you can have is yes. And I Will reply, I Am not going to imitate sucking obama's dick with my prose.
2 hours ago, Mel Hopkins said: Reducing Obama’s campaign to speeches, commercials, wealthy donors, and appearances misses the central innovation: it built a decentralized civic movement in which millions of ordinary people became organizers, fundraisers, community leaders, and co-authors of the campaign’s meaning. (Obama's Lost Army)
Again, you call it a reduction which suggests it is making him a lesser than. I am speaking truth, you can call it a reduction, but I didn't say he didn't succeed and in my original point, I said he formed coalitions splitting the votes of two groups. so I don't know why you suggest the following
2 hours ago, Mel Hopkins said: Successful candidates build coalitions.
as if i don't know that when if others besides you read my words, maybe they will realize i stated he won by forming a coalition by spltiting votes. And in the history of the usa, the types of coalitions are not the same, that candidates build and sometimes, a successful candidate doesn't need to build a coalition.
2 hours ago, Mel Hopkins said: That is called campaigning. It is not evidence that he somehow “undid” Hillary Clinton’s rightful possession of the nomination.
i didn't say him, I quote what I said
and that led to support from very wealthy donors which undid Hillary Clinton's run.
Notice for anyone who can read, what I wrote was, support from very wealthy donors undid hillary clinton, not obama.
I must ask Mel , why you misread me so much? And not just you @Troy can't read my prose, you can't read , none of you people seem to be able to read my prose. Now clearly, I don't write well or at least convey well enough, and I accept that, but in the future, I need to embrace that the second my prose is misread, not to reply to a misread of my prose.
Cause it is silly on my end. You have said the following
I said Obama lacks talent.
I said Obama undid Hillary Clinton
I said , straightly or unstraightly, Obama's campaign was to be ridiculed or diminished.
Before the quote from you.
2 hours ago, Mel Hopkins said: Now to the allegation that Obama was “woeful as a legislator”
For me, all of that is lies. I didn't any of those things, but you clearly read them.
Now to the laws.
You are correct, it would be more robust or comprehensive to go through a list of laws + executive orders as president , Obama , from illinois state senate to president, initiated or supported or signed. And, it is important to distinguish laws that he didn't initiate but supported, like the affordable care act, which is Nancy PElosi's not hit. But, I admittedly, wasn't interested in spending the time to do that. And as such, anyone can dismiss my position for the absence of comprehensive. But I stand by it.
Ledbetter is BArbara Mikulsky's not Obama's. Yes, he signed it, but that wasn't hit.
And I already mentioned the affordable care act was nancy pelosi, not obama, which i have said in this forum many times.
And I repeat myself, my uncomprehensive claim can be dismissed on its lacking comprehension. Many people love the evidence or proof of the statistical charts or the paper trail, and I didn't provide that nor was I going to. But I stand by my position.
As for the affordable care act, a college friend of mine, a black woman with a child who was never going to get insurance until the affordable care act. was beyond exuberant, which I have said in this very forum, but the affordable care act is dysfunctional legislation.
Dysfunctional legislation like functional legislation will always have those who benefit from it. All laws have beneficiaries, no matter what they are. From white jewish germans going to concentration camps which gave money to gas makers and concrete makers, to the affordable care act, which gave many financial institutions news veins of profit alongside expanding the insurance industry to those blockaded from it.
and a fourth false claim from you, I quote you
I also personally obtained healthcare benefits through the Affordable Care Act, as did millions of other Americans. You cannot erase the people who benefited from a law merely by declaring the entire law a failure.
I am erasing the people who benefited from the affordable care act because I call it a dysfunctional law.
IT is interesting, when you or troy or others make your posts. I never claim such grandiose. I may oppose what you say, but I never expand my opposition to such things. why do you all do that to me? answer that explicative... please
I don't want to convey a gentleness, I hope I succeeded.
2 hours ago, Mel Hopkins said: And if Mayor Zohran Mamdani can be as consequential for New York City as President Obama was for the United States, then New York may be well positioned to preserve its standing as one of the world’s leading cities.
Well. Obama is what led to Schrumptf so... based on Obama , I think NYC will be the largest most potent city in the usa, as it was before or after mamdani, gardless of mandani/adams/di blasio, the same way the usa is the most powerful militaristic force in humanity before or after obama, gardless of obama/biden/schrumfpt , but the quality of leadership post mamdani if obama is any historical indicator of value will be, a chaos agent. And I don't see how that will be positive for nyc. Luckily for NYC , the demographics of NYC is in some ways, wider than the usa while in other ways narrower than the usa.
2 hours ago, Mel Hopkins said: If you cannot identify the law, explain the defect and provide factual evidence of the result, please do not tag me merely to repeat a political impression.
Ahhh, I wish you would had said this from the beginning.
I didn't tag you to repeat a political impression. I tagged you and all others , though you may not have seen that, cause those are your words and i didn't want your words on the issue to be considered mine, which has happened in the past in this forum, and which i failed at because @Troy confused one of the peoples i tagged's words as mine anyway.
Now the good news is that I usually don't quote others in my initial posts, but i did this time, simply because it was warranted. But I have learned next time I quote you i will mention your name without tagging you. I have to admit, I wanted to say something more negative or abrasive at the end, but forget it.
-
Mamdani and the democratic socialist
AFTER READING THE COMMENTS BELOW AND SEEING IN HINDSIGHT
Most in this group saw the rise of Mamdani, especially as a democratic socialist. Though only I connected his style to that of Schrumpf + Obama. For I don't see any difference between either of them. All three are very good at media campaigning, the key to getting elected, but none are actually good at legislation. The problem Obama+AOC+SChrumpft+MAndani+Chevalier and all their peers have is ... I will not say. But, the elected official who doesn't do the one thing they all do, will open a true can of worms, completely inevitable or foresightful at this point.
COMMENTS TO DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM
2016 this was said by @Pioneer1
Bernie Sanders says some good things but too many of his supporters are pushing Socialism...or what many of his supports call "Democratic Socialism"....which will not work for Black America because too much socialism will make our people lazy.
I've seen too many talented Black men and women who grew up thinking they could "slick" their way through life by hustling and pimping the system until they could somehow get a social security or disablity check for a few hundred dolllars....then they're satisified.
But in a properly managed economy, if they were pushed to use just HALF of the good sense God gave them many of them would be millionaires by now.
On the other hand we don't need unbridled Capitalism either because it will lead to the type of exploitation and despotism you see brewing in the United State today that locks so many poor AfroAmericans out of the economy and creates a "permanent underclass".
SOME things that people depend on for their very livelihood like healthcare and education should be socialized.
Other things should not.
I'm not hating on Bernie.
I think he'd probably be a better President from a domestic policy point of view than Hillary and I KNOW he'd be better than Trump.
But we have to learn that what works for OTHERS will not necessarily work for us.
What we need as AfroAmericans is a system uniquely designed BY us...FOR us; and if not implimented by a Black politician in an executive position such as President or Governor....atleast whoever does get in office while respect our agenda and integrate it into his/her Administration.citation
https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/3678-this-or-that/#comment-16411
2022 thsi was said by @Stefan
The Democrats are about to get their backsides waxed in this year's midterm elections. Several mistakes are to blame and most are unforced errors.
1) Too many Black people remain ignorant of what Critical Race Theory actually is. It's not Black History, although many well-meaning Black folks claim that it is. And sadly, they cling to this errant view on social media.
But Critical Race Theory is NOT Black History, which is a collection of truths and facts. Theories are simply suppositions.
I will maintain that CRT is taught only at the university level not in grade, intermediate or any high schools.
The problem lies in that few have come up with a ONE SENTENCE description of exactly what Critical Race Theory is.
Most who try to explain it employ 50-cent word verbiage which average readers in the U.S. have a hard time understanding since most read at a 7th and 8th grade level.
Others dance around it claiming: "Oh, it's been around for 40 years and such and such.” Long-winded explanations do little to clear the air.
So, I fashioned a one-sentence retort that can be shoved in the face of CRT detractors.
Because the GOP and its supporters have been killing us on messaging while we've gleefully surrendered the intellectual landscape by choosing to scream dumb chit such as "Defund the Police!"
Oh, yeah, what a winning slogan that was.
Here is my one sentence description of CRT:
Critical Race Theory is a premise that posits skin color and race determine the outcomes of most decisions, laws and behavior in the U.S.
That's it! That is the one sentence description. And this one line should have been tossed back at those White racists who have been skewering us with attacks on the social term "woke." This is why we have lost the Messaging War. And CRT is going to be used by millions upon millions of racist and angry Whites, Latinos and some Blacks to clobber the Democrats at the polls in November.
2) Refusal to acknowledge Bernie Sanders' push for so-called Democratic Socialism has failed miserably.
Far too many folks are still drunk on Bernie's Kool-Aid. I keep running into folks who swear the solution to everything is Socialism. As if this canard of economic belief has been successful in any modern society or nation. However, by listening to this aged clown Bernie, AOC and her merry band of knuckleheads threw in all their social wants and desires into the Build Back Better bill, completely guaranteeing that no one, except maybe Kim Jong-Un, would go for it. The bill had to be reworked a few times before the House took a vote.
That's why it failed. BBB contained too too much, would cost too much and proved far too ambitious for most legislators and pundits. But you can't tell Bernie Bots anything. They truly believe they were sent from on high to rule. Yeah, okay.
In addition to having a new Voting Rights Bill fail, Black people are now going to have to contend with even more Red states preparing their own voter suppression laws.
Gotta hand it to all those dumb-azz 2016 third party voters. By denying Hillary Clinton their votes, they enabled Trump to squeak by in enough states to win him the White House. I doubted Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg would have survived the first term of whomever won in 2016. She didn't. And this gave Trump a chance to appoint three toadies to the Supreme Court.
I believe more than 10% of Bernie Bots voted for Trump in 2016. Some news outlets peg it higher. Even if most return to the Dems this year, we're still going to lose in November.citation
https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/8362-the-gop-blowout-is-coming/#comment-49238
from 2022 from @anonymous50
Is it possible for an individual, not politician (because most of them are well off anyway), to believe in Democratic Socialism when they are financially successful.
Sure, when a person is financially struggling, Socialist programs are very appealing. For example. politicians like Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, and AOC promise free college tuition and socialized healthcare that won't bankrupt an individual when they get sick. In some instances very progressive candidates promise to abolish student loan debt, which can be very devastating to someone who owes such debt. They also promise higher taxes on the rich to pay for these social programs.
But, to the dusty* who remains in poverty this does not matter.
They look upon the rich as having too much anyway.
Part of it is class envy and the other part is realism. The so-call 99 percent who look at the extremely wealthy 1 percent class with their palatial manors, Rolls Royces, private jets, yachts, and access to some of the most beautiful women in the world know that all of these luxuries are beyond their reach in this lifetime.
I know some would call this a poverty mindset.
Most people don't have the drive, ambition, skills and patience to become rich.
The paths to riches are limited anyway. Most start up businesses fail after a short period of time. You stand a greater chance of being struck by lighting twice than winning the lottery. Many get-rich-quick schemes advertised in the mail, online, or TV(infomercials) don't work. Only a small number of Pookies and Ray Rays from the hood who aspire to become rappers or baller are successful. People who go to Hollywood to find themselves seldom become the next big movie stars.
So, the poor dusty who struggles from paycheck to paycheck to barely put food on the table looks at the astronomical wealth and toys the 1 percent has and thinks "why should they not be willing to have their wealth redistributed to help those who are less fortunate."
But, when a person is able to lift themselves out of poverty and become wealthy, is he or she still willing to give up a certain percentage of income through taxation to fund the programs that person once relied upon when he or she was destitute? Some politicians would like to impose a 40 percent tax rate on the well-to-do.
*To use online urban vernacular, a dusty is a man(usually a black man) who is low quality, poor, broke, and has no ambition
citation
https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/9335-an-affluent-democratic/
from 2025 from @ProfD
This young man, Zohran Mamdani, is the breath of fresh air the Democratic party needs.
Mamdani's positions on social and justice reform, city services, Israel and Jews, etc., may be considered radical. He makes it no secret that he's a diehard Democratic socialist.
I believe his connections to a wide cross-section of people (FBA/ADOs, Muslim, Arab, African, Hispanic, Asian, etc.) and affiliation with the Hip-Hop community among others will propel him to becoming the most popular candidate on the ballot.
Regardless of whether or not Zohran Mamdani is elected mayor of NYC, he actually has a plan for how he wants to run the city. Mamdani's plan could be a blueprint for the Democratic party to overtake the GOP. 😎
citation
https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/11698-if-you-want-to-know-more-about-mamdani/#comment-74720
from 2025 from @Mel Hopkins
If the NYC mayoral race were a novel, I'd deconstruct its architecture. From one election to the next, the narrative appears to shift away from focused policy debates, instead centering on the influence of religious groups. The major religious factions—Christian nationalists, Muslims, and Jews—each appear to compete for cultural and political dominance within the city.
Amid this religious competition, the African diaspora in the U.S.—a powerful and often underestimated voting bloc—continues to be overlooked and taken for granted by both the candidates and the dominant religious groups.
It sometimes seems as though these competing religious groups neglect the African diaspora’s influence. Ironically, the roots of these religions trace back to African science-based spirituality, yet this connection receives little attention in political or religious discourse.
This dynamic played out in Election 2024: Christian nationalists—including evangelists, southern Baptists, and likely Catholics—rallied strongly behind DJT. Media and external influencers shifted the conversation away from local policy and toward polarizing international issues, like the U.S. stance on Israel and Palestine, further affecting how voters chose among domestic candidates.
When reviewing 2025 election results, I noticed Mamdani was not the only Muslim elected, which raises the question of whether heightened coverage of Gaza led to greater sympathy and increased Muslim representation—a trend potentially extending into the midterms.
Don’t misunderstand—I bear a grudge against all religions. Religious study should bring wisdom, spirituality, and growth, yet it often has the opposite effect. Religions lead to violence instead of joy and peace. Add patriarchy, and it’s chaos.Returning to the story's structure: Is this a narrative of democratic socialism rising in the heart of Wall Street? Consider Manhattan—the FINANCIAL CAPITAL OF THE WORLD—and its boroughs. Is the city that never sleeps really ready to move from capitalism to social ownership? Notably, NYC is the largest property owner according to Curbed.com, and the mayor administers these assets. Perhaps social ownership is the underlying story arc behind recent shifts.
So, in this story—call it Project 2025 (S)—the central figure is a young millennial poised to challenge the reigning power and reclaim Manhattan for the people. Behind the scenes, religious struggle, human trafficking disguised as immigration reform, and pervasive surveillance set the chaotic stage for change in the city.
Meet the Muslim and Arab Americans who won in US local elections
Jews vote for Andrew Cuomo over Zohran Mamdani in NYC mayoral race | The Jerusalem Post"In addition to the Jewish vote, Mamdani lost the Catholic vote by a significant margin: 53% supported Cuomo and 14% backed Sliwa, against 33% for Mamdani.
A decisive 75% of voters with no religious affiliation supported Mamdani."
Here's a past look at Manhattan when DJT began buying up NY property in the early 70s(?) a look back at Palestinians, Israel, Libya, etc.https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/12023-nyc-mayral-thoughts-a-conclusion/#comment-77398
-
you asked the following
Are Things Better Today Than 40 or 50 Years Ago? and then you added specificity to your question with the folllowing
How many of you think the OVER ALL financial and social conditions in the United States....especially for AfroAmericans...are better today than they were in the 70s or 80s? Whether you say yes or no, please state your reasons
My reply
I have to beak up your question into parts.
PArt one, is the financial condition in the united states for black people, whether descended of enslaved , willing immigrant, indigenous , or other is better forty or fifty years ago compared to today?
Part two, is the social condition in the united states for black people, whether descended of enslaved , willing immigrant, indigenous , or other is better forty or fifty years ago compared to today?
PArt 1 is a strict financial assessment. I argue the answer is no. But the why is fully supported.
The first element that has to be answered with part 1 is , what is the financial condition of the black populace in the usa or the european colonies that preceded it?
To answer the question just mentioned you have to ask, what was the first financial condition? The first financial condition matters for financial status isn't based on current scenarioes most of the time. The easiest example is white european wealth in the usa. JP Morgan is a bank in existence today, not because of the 1900s but because of 1492. why? jp morgans biggest accounts were from enslavers. Enslavers largess in profits didn't come from sales but came from the acquisition on land absent market rate or legal conditions, plus not having to pay an even wage and better, below market rate. Unionized labor is most expensive. But, competitive wage labor is second/like european serfs. But, enslaved labor saves money on serfs and non unionized labor. That largess in wealth allowed jp morgan to thrive and invest in other things. It all stemmed from clients whom never had to pay for land or pay any decent amount for workers.
Financially, what is enslavement? Enslavement is a condition of complete financial absence. No revenue, no debt, no anything.
So, from 1492 to 1776 in the european colonies, ninety nine percent of black people had complete financial absence. No inheritance could be given to the future, and they couldn't do any fiscal activity while alive. Now why did I say ninetey nine percent, James Forten, a real black man with a successful business in philadelp[hia before or after the colonies of england ceded from the english empire existed. one percent of black people actually were business owners , even while the law of the land was to not allow black people the status of human.
Now from 1776 to 1865 enslavement of blacks to whites was legal at the federal level, thus enslavement had no financial change from the creation of the usa.
So, from 1492 to 1865 99% of black people in the colonies that became the united states of america or the united states of america itself, had complete financial absence, no bank account, no money, no inheritance, no financial value earned or provided or shared or saved.
No in 1865 the war between the states occured and the federal government says black people are citizens. But, two things occur simultaneously. First, the white populace in each state in the union, [mirrored by the growth of the original klu klux klan, which inspired the creation of the federal bureau of investigation] worked to destroy positive black financial activity. Second, the federal government chose to allow whites to terrorize black people , allowed whites to commit illegalities plus crimes against black people in each of the states. The end of reconstruction when the army left the south [which would be reintroduced in the 1960s ] is the general image of this time, in every state in the union, the white populace couldn't or didn't deny black people were citizens, but were allowed to terrorize black people using any method to stop positive financial activity.
What is Jim Crow financially, Jim Crow is the maintenance of the financial condition of blacks enslaved to whites before the 13th amendment across the united states of america , by each white populace in each state in the union acting against black people, thus not legally enslaving blacks but creating a complete environment across the usa by having each state be the same way, all at the allowance of the federal government.
And so Jim Crow has difference histories for each state in the union.
In Mississippi or Louisiana or South Carolina or Georgia or similar , Whites had to first burn or hang black people through straight terror to force black populaces to be small enough for a white majority to control. Then after that the white populaces in each state used state law or governance to herd black people into prison for open end terms based on any crime they wanted to rebuild the state, maintain white land owners labor base by manipulating law until black laborers are indebted to white land owners forever, and delete financial profitability of black towns like rosewood florida or black regions of cities like greenville in tulsa by white terror , regardless of the black town or black regions financial profitability. Thus today, many and I argue the land to most black towns is owned by whites. Jim Crow ended in the 1970s, because of the civil rights act. Which I argue the federal government did to curtail the financial condition of all the states, who in 1965 were all dominated by white people and in particular white christian males. From 1965 to 1980, enough of the states financially changed to allow financial participation of blacks in them.
Madam CJ Walker for Jim Crow proves like JAmes Forten for Enslavement that a one percent of black people existed as successful, revenue earning, business owners.
New York, California, oddly enough even Texas, or similar allowed for Black financial participation for the ninety nine percent of black people in said states for the first time in 1980.
But, Mississippi, Alabama, Vermont, Alaska, Nevada, and most others states in the usa in the gregorian year nineteen hundred and eighty had no financial allowance for ninety nine percent of black people in said states.
So, from 1492 to 1980 , black people in the usa , circa ninety five percent, were denied financial ability, not merely opportunity but ability. It wasn't like 99% of blacks were financially able, 99% of blacks were financially disabled through white power.
Now, you asked forty to fifty years ago. So, from 1980 to 2026 is the time you ask whether is better or worse financially.
I argue no, because of the financial legacy of the black populace. Ten percent of the black populace in the usa today is financially better off but the problem is the negative financial legacy that Black DOSers carry.
1492 to 1980 isn't zero, it is negative.
[White Revenue in 1492-1980 + absolute value (White Debt in 1492 to 1980)]* Time[1980 minus 1492]*[if White Revenue+ absolute Debt is greater than zero then return 1 if zero return -1]
in paralell
[Black Revenue in 1492-1980 + absolute value (Black Debt in 1492 to 1980)]* Time[1980 minus 1492]*[if Black Revenue+ absolute Debt is greater than zero then return 1 if zero return -1*(white value)]
So a majority of Black people circa 90% have a highly negative financial legacy from their bloodlines past. That is not easily overcome.
But to your question, nothing has changed financially, because the overwhelming majority of black people, from the many small impoverished black towns in the former confederate states, to the fiscally poor black segments of white cities in the north or west or midwest, I argue havent changed as they are as financially unable, less than opportune, as their enslaved forebears.
No inheritance given to them from the past, no money earned in their life, no bank account, no inhertiance able to be provided to any in the future. That is financial absence.
Now, to specifics, Black DOSers are the largest black populace in the usa. They reflect the mentioned financially reality.
Black Willing immigrants are split between pre civil rights act 1965 and post civil rights act 1965.
Marcus Garvey was an immigrant from the british territory of Jamaica, but he didn't present himself as a jamaican american, he presented himself as a black american. Why od I say this? Before the immigration act of 1968, Black willing immigrants to the usa, didn't see themselves as from country over black, they saw themselves as Black over from some country.
The black willing immigrants pre immigration act, melded into the Black DOS populace as Black peoples. What is the point? financially, willing black immigrants before 1960s immigration act, didn't act isolated from the Black DOS populace. so in my view it is a financial fusion.
Now, after the immigration act in he 1960s, black willing immigrant populaces are defined by the country they come from.
Black jamaicans, black nigerians, black indians, and more. Why does this matter?
First, willing black immigrants post 1960s immigration act are financially broken up between their countries of origin. So, the financial condition of the black populace in the usa, in modernity, has to be viewed as a set of groups each with their own financial situation.
DOSers+ each of the country based black populaces have their own financial condition.
Now anyone can ask, how to merge the financials of the black populaces in the usa... that will require the black populaces to make a concerted effort to do that. SOme in the 1960s worked on that , but again, white terror tooks it toll. as it did daily to 1492.
My final point is,
while the majority of black people in the usa, have the same financial condition as their enslaved forebears , as their jim crowed forebears did, the black one percent, from james forten through madame cj walker [who had her own brownstone designed and built by a black architect, as well as her home upstate new york state,, ] to the oprah winfrey's/byron allen's or others., the Black one percent has grown their wealth tremendously from 1980 to 2026. The black one percent is very wealthy and financially safe and has i argue the largest wealth gap, larger than fiscally rich whites to fiscally poor whites.
So the ninety nine percent of the black completely enslaved populace from 1492 to 1865 became the black jim crowed ninetry five percent from 1865 to 1980 and turned into the historically fiscally impoverished ninety percent from 1980 to today.
But the black one percent in the totally enslaved days from 1492 to 1865 became the wealthy five percent during jim crow from 1865 to 1980 which is not the ten percent black fiscal elite from 1980 to 2026.
Your second question is
the social condition in the united states for black people, whether descended of enslaved , willing immigrant, indigenous , or other is better forty or fifty years ago compared to today?
First, socio means a common brotherhood , but is used to refer to an overall human condition. And my answer is , Yes.
While financially the history of Black people in the usa or the european colonies that preceded it has three parts: Enslavement 1492 to 1865, Jim Crow 1865 to 1980, Multiracial USA 1980 to today. the birth of the usa mean nothing, the civil rights act means nothing, the world wars means nothing. many of the events that people of all phenotypes, deem relevant had no financial value to the majority of black people in the usa because of white terror.
Socially, the human condition of Blacks in the usa has gotten better in regions . For example, in massachusetts, the black populace has an exponential curve over time with positive relations to whites. the confederate states is exponential but aat far less growth or intensity.
Social improvmenet isn't about money but treatment. How is a black person treated in the united states of america, a white country? It has een exponential.
IN CONCLUSION, financially, the overwhelming majority of blacks havent changed in the united states over all . Financially, an extreme minority of blacks over the past forty years have grown in wealth tremendously, and have created the biggest gap between the fiscal poor of their own populace. Said extreme minority hasn't grown in populace exponentially, but ther wealth has.
Socially, gardless of financial condition, it has been a slow growth. In opposition to the financial terror white people placed on black people, the social patchwork of whites have made zones of decency for black people to live variably in the usa in parallel, not changing the financial condition but the social condition.
Where from 1492 to 1980 the patchwork predominated. Mississippi isn't california, Louisiana isn't New York. from 1980 to today, as the usa has become a multiracial country financially with enough non white european christian male wealth in it, to have a fiscally wealthy populace that has representation across the human spectrum, the social condition has grown dramatically. And it is clear for all to see, the usa has competing populaces over the future identity of the usa. IT hasn't gotten violent or in aclear tribal multivide , yet but it is headed that way, unless something can preoccupy all groups to each groups benefit. But I don't see that or comprehend that on the near horizon.
Post SCript
When many people talk about the united states of america today, they forget that the usa was always multiracial in the population, but never multiracial in who ruled. white rules, christian rules, male rules,heterosexual rules, immigrant rules. And no matter what non whites like black folk, non christians like muslims , non males like woman, non heterosexuals like homosexuals , non immigrants like first peoples did, whether success of failure , they acted under white, christian, male, heteroseuxal, immigrant power.
But, in the near fifty years since nineteen hundred and eighty, the multiracial growht among the fiscally wealthy has pushed the question of identity. A majoriy of fiscally poor whites who have a five hundred year heritage of winning over others, absent merit , using terror, want to do it one more time. to non christians, women, blacks, recent immigrants, the native american. The problem is, the culture the usa used to defeat the soviet union in the media front was more costly than many whites realized. The cold war has been done for circa thrity years but women aren't going back to the kitchen, blacks to the fields, immigrants to their countries, homosexuals to the shadows all for the white power community to have its place of domiannce as in the past.
-
RMNewsletter 5th 06212026
A Father's Day Solstice
-
RMNewsletter 5th 06142026
Juneteenth is the 19th of June.
#rmnewsletter #richardmurrayhumblr #rmaalbc #hddeviant #richardmurray #rmworkcalendar #rmcommunitycalendar #black337
#juneteenth #flagday #solstice #junesolstice #ADOS #DOS #BDOS #black #negra #kalo #preto #Noir #schwartz #habshi
-
RMNewsletter 5th version 06072026
The Anniversary of The Gospel of Joseph
#rmnewsletter #richardmurrayhumblr #rmaalbc #hddeviant #richardmurray #rmworkcalendar #rmcommunitycalendar #black337
#gospelofjoseph #catholic #gnostic #christian #christianity #war #israel #iran #anniversary #snowcones #hamster #makersfaire #maker
-
-
It is free to read at the following:) open for thoughts
-
RMNewsletter 5th version 05312026
Honoring , It Takes Two
#rmnewsletter #richardmurrayhumblr #rmaalbc #hddeviant #richardmurray #rmworkcalendar #rmcommunitycalendar #black337
#ittakestwo #blackmusic #spirituals #blues #bebop #pokemon #charity #jazz
-
1 hour ago, ProfD said: How would enslaved Black folks born in the USA during the 1800s have known any different or better?
Since you don't know all I can say is, keep that truth and the rest of your views. All I will say is I know and I differ.
-
12 hours ago, Troy said: So you have no home?
I am not going to answer your question outside of the following.
I am stateless and think what you will
9 hours ago, aka Contrarian said: Black folks are masochistic; like an abused wife who stays with her mate because - it hurts so good.
like the romani in europe, the okinawans in japan,the nuba in egypt/kemet, many peoples spend so long abused by a larger populace, more potent group that their being dominated becomes a heritage. What Pioneer said led me to realize the key to when this happened, was 1865.
From 1492 to 1865 no black person could say the usa was better than canada or mexico , either they were equal to the usa, Or after england banned enslavement or mexico banned enslavement ala jonas caballo, both canada or mexico made slavery illegal while slavery was still legal in the usa. Then from 1865 to 1980 the black wife was still shackled by the white mate, but he spent time explaining why she was enslaved/ alal the prison system + sharecropping+ absent government funding for anything. But in the 1865 time, before and after was key.
As henry louis gates jr admited, the black church pondered whether to use violence or nonviolence. I am still trying to find out this meeting and vote, but from what he says, by one vote, nonviolence won and , i argue the rest is history. Pioneer says what country is better, but while modernity, 2026 can argue the usa is better, in the 1800s, the usa wasn't better for black people than any other country. So black leaders embracing the usa as a home was not based on laws or finance, but hope or faith. And sadly, black people, the black wife, paid for that gamble with modernity, consequences.
6 hours ago, Pioneer1 said: Black Americans aren't masochistic.
Most don't like the current situation but don't know of any BETTER options.
What is an abused wife to do?
Leave her abusive husband and go live out in the woods where the wolves and bears will be much nicer to her?thankyou for your prose, You expose a key point in black history in the usa, and how black people are to blame for the current condition en large in the usa.
I think aka is correct. as Nina Simone said, black people are willing to march but not willing to die, she blamed malcolm/martin and others death on black people in the usa, saying they are willing to march but not die but you expose the source of that choice and it isn't whites but black people in the past.
-
11 hours ago, Troy said: where exactly is your home and why do you claim that particular place?
i have said before in this very forum many many times, i am stateless, from my view. I know the legal standing i have by the white country I live in, but I have my own position to myself.
8 hours ago, aka Contrarian said: If you guys weren't constantly bitchin' and whining about the lingering injustices of slavery in this country and the institutionalized racism that is designed to stifle Blacks, and keep them in their place and the omnipresent spectre of white supremacy and on and on and on, maybe Richard wouldn't look askance at the ambiguity of your relationship with this country.
Troy bristles with his contempt f or the pervasiveness of social media and all it involves, and ProfD makes no secret about being armed and amenable to vigilancy, never wavering in his goal of reparations.
Funny, I never got the impression that Richard was a member of a different generation than you two. His thinking is not archaic, to me.
All of which contributes to the elusiveness of black unity.
In watching the recentPBS special on WEB DuBos, I can't help but wonder what tribe he would belong to, were he still with us.
I, personally, have given up categorizing folks. How one views the world depends on their core personality, imo.
🙄
Interesting point , if we are all honest, most black people have only ever complained about the usa or the english colonies preceding it, cause most black people were unhappy in the usa or the english colonies that preceded at as an environment.
But well said, most white people say they love the usa , not just that it is their home, and that love is based on opportunities and betterment not just for themselves but their community, which was born by any means necessary. The black people who call the usa home have never been able to call the sua a land of opportunity or betterment for the black masses, maybe for themsleves, but never for a majority of black people like whites, this the complaint heritage you speak of and allude to through troy and others prose.
Well said.
and yes, black unity in the usa has always been elusive and i think complicated because black people don't have a unfiied relationship to the usa. all whites, can say their forebears came here willingly, for better or worse. but all blacks can't say that and time can't change that.
What a question on WEB DUbois. I don't know. It is a great thought experiment.
The problem is DUbois died unlike his heyday. He was arguably a garveyite in his final years who was used as a tool by whites to get garvey out the usa when younger so... Dubois is tough.
I think to the point you mentioned, Dubois would dislike the modern complaint culture in the black populace in usa , simply because black people have been doing it for 250 years, alongside, trying everything from elected officials to starting businessess and never able to really get the majority of black people in a positive place.
Good enigmatic quesiton. I don't know what tribe dubois would be in modernity.
It is funny, the creation of the constitution holds the problem to categorization in the usa.
The constitution seems to only suggest the human race, but the reality of the usa by the very person who wrote it is against that notion. And even though I know people of all racial types [phenotype/age/religion/or others ]who are done with categorizing , like yourself, i also know people who are proud categorizers of all said racial types as well...
Maybe the answer is for a country to start one day that doesn't merely have the words of the constitution but is peopled by people who actually believe in unbiased humanity, a kind of universal individualism.
I saw a thing called asian 30 or something like that, and an actor, indian /of india descent. he said, i quote, he knows there are many in the usa who will never consider him american. Andh here is someone whose parents willingly came to the usa, has earned millions in hollywood, and admits that no matter what he does, there are those who will never consider the usa his home. I think it sums up the challenges of the future at least.
In my head maybe the states identity has to return,... before the war between the states people in the usa considered themselves of the states they lived in , not american. So, maybe that will return.
6 hours ago, ProfD said: would prefer to live in Haiti if unknown circumstances didn't prevent him from relocating there.😎
I fortunately plus unfortunately have traveled quite a bit and i know modern haiti isn't for me, I know too many haitians, even if modern haiti were to turn around financially,, turn around greatly, it isn't for me. But I would be very happy for the legacy of the Haiti of yore.
-
I will answer how I feel about some Black intellectuals already mentioned in the comments.
James Baldwin- I love his cutting honesty, from himself or to others. He admitted that he was unhappy in the usa in a complete way. and he admitted he returned to the usa when he saw the usa was extended everywhere outside. He didn't call usa home de facto cause he was born here, which so many Black DOSers say stupidly. Our forebears were enslaved , adult to children, don't tell me the usa is home to black children living in utter hell who were forced here. They need to choose the usa as home, it isn't de facto. Baldwin admitted something I rarely hear any black person admit to. That all/most of the black elders around him hated white people. Even today so many black DOSers seem to be apologist for black dislike of whites as if whites didn't earn this. I love the fact that he was off camera vibrantly homosexual. So many black DOSers hide their true selves their whole lives. Many Black militants who want to kill whites hide their whole lives in the usa, it is silly. Many Black whitephiles who dislike other black people for being black hide their whole lives in the usa, , acting like they like being around other black people, it is silly. Baldwin was very honest.
Angela Davis- I like that she is a survivor. and embraces that the battle has to be continued by the next generation. It isn't up for one person to be the leader and be at the frong forever and if the next generations aren't willing , then the results will be what they will be. I will never
Farrakhan- is a good reader of the environment, he recognized black men across the usa was looking for guidance, but sadly he wasted the opportunity to guide and instead convinced the black men of what they don't like about the usa.
-
-
RMNewsletter 5th version 05232026
Anniversary of The Visasiki
#rmnewsletter #richardmurrayhumblr #rmaalbc #hddeviant #richardmurray #rmworkcalendar #rmcommunitycalendar #black337
#visasiki #sunsetchildrenstories #lookingwestandwest #kobo #kwl #audiobook #ebook #akorade #coloringpage
https://www.tiktok.com/@richardmurraytiktok/video/7643555143031557390
-
3 hours ago, ProfD said: the ridiculousness of adversarial relationship between USA-China
war is ridiculous? no... peace side war will always exist, neither is good or bad, either take infinite forms, and neither ever end.
3 hours ago, ProfD said: The fundamental question remains what are they doing to force change.
based on your logic every prisoner in a prison should be trying to escape. Doing something to attempt to force change does not deny the quality of environment warrants a negative critique.
3 hours ago, ProfD said: Considering that people continue procreating & bringing more lives into a poor existence suggests that being poor isn't too bad.
it is natural for all species, all children of earth to be fruitful and multiply no matter the environment, to restate, being fruitful or multiplying has no relationship to the quality of environment, humans ... all species/children of earth will do that as long as they exist.
3 hours ago, ProfD said: It's like a sport.
no it isn't , a sport, whether chess or basketball, by default, never has the consequences or prosequences that war or peace has.
-
INVITING ALL WRITERS TO VOTE FOR THE WINNER!!! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfrUbWulo0AUaWmw9650uZjgjT7XNntJkvQXmWkjqX1mn6XXg/viewform?usp=publish-editor #glory #usa250 #alexanderjohnson #watn #wherearetheynow #crliterature #hddeviant #richardmurray #richardmurrayhumblr
-
On 5/18/2026 at 7:45 PM, Troy said: Most telling is that China gives us TicTok, but don't subject their own people to that trash...
this is a lie, i am fortunate enough to communicate to chinese who live in china, tiktok and the greater social emdia is very popular there, you like many others forget, china has near two billion people. yes, a section of those people are all engineers, in the same way a section of northern italy is the most technologically advanced community on earth in the same way, a section of populace in the usa is very educated... but the majority is not the minority in any country, this extends to brasil, india, russia, all countries today from the fiscal poorest like a somalia or hait rto the wealthiest like a sweden china usa monaco have a majority that is poor and not as positive compared to aminority that is advantageous and has alot f positive metrics.
On 5/18/2026 at 7:45 PM, Troy said: We are becoming increasing dependent upon them not just for labor.
who is WE ? are native americans in the usa a part of WE? are black descended of enslaved people who have been in an unhappy antagonist environment their entire lives, whose parents and parents parents and parents ^3 and parents ^4 and parents ^5 and parents ^6 who lived their entire lives in an unhappy antagonist environment a part of WE in the past or currently?
I comprehend the black people in the usa or english colonies that preceded it for their views, the JAmes Forten disease.
James Foten, Clarence Thomas, Yourself Troy, Frederick Douglass all @ProfD all have this USA is home view points, regardless of the condition of a majority of black people in modernity or historically, for all of you, the usa is home and regardless of how many other black people oppose that view or their reasoning you keep making public Declarations of unity for the black populace in the usa with the only view forward being a hope that one day it will be functionally true.
On 5/18/2026 at 8:57 PM, ProfD said: It is to point out the obvious gaslighting US leaders do to keep Americans dazed & confused into believing China is an adversary.
Profd your being too short. the gaslighting is global. during the war bettween ussr + usa, people in the ussr saw photos of new york city's downtown manhattan and said that is the usa. they didn't see the whole regions of the south without running water.. People in africa to this day still run to france, but don't realize the banliues of the big cities like paris are run down and decrepit n different than the slums of lagos or joberg. all the countries are crap: usa/russia/china/england/japan and all other countries including israel/haiti/iran/ singapore.. all countires today have a majority of mostly fiscally poor unhappy people in an antagonist environment that are lorded by a fiscally potent , militaristically dominant minority. the only difference between the minrorities is who can be the bigger bully.
-
Applications for the #AWP27 HBCU Fellowship Program will be closing on Sunday, May 31st! You can apply here: https://lnkd.in/e_yGqnJb
Each year, the ASSOCIATION OF WRITERS & WRITING PROGRAMS offers fellowships to faculty and students who currently work at or attend a historically Black college or university and are involved in creative writing. Those chosen will be invited to attend the 2027 AWP Conference & Bookfair.
The #AWP27 HBCU fellowships will be offered to three faculty and six students, and will include a stipend, paid round-trip travel and lodging expenses for the duration of the conference, an opportunity for students and faculty to workshop students' creative pieces, and more.
#HBCU #BlackWriters #AssociationofWritersandWritingPrograms #SerendipityLiteraryAgencyLinkedIn
#awp27 #awp27 #hbcu #blackwriters #associationofwritersan...
Applications for the #AWP27 HBCU Fellowship Program will be closing on Sunday, May 31st! You can apply here: https://lnkd.in/e_yGqnJb Each year, the ASSOCIATION OF WRITERS & WRITING PROGRAMS offers fAALBC.com and the Black Book Accelerator — led by Troy Johnson, Carrie J. Bloxson, Linda A. Duggins, Peter Hildick-Smith, Brian Hurley, and me — have launched one of the first major initiatives of the Black Book Accelerator: the BLK Bestseller List. The list showcases the top 20 bestselling fiction, nonfiction, children’s, young adult, and poetry titles by Black authors.
I’m excited to announce that AALBC and the Black Book Accelerator have also now partnered with TheGrio, a trusted source for Black news, politics, and culture, which will now share the monthly BLK Bestseller List on its platform.
I’m proud to be part of a team with the passion and commitment to help build a stronger, more connected Black book ecosystem — one that ultimately strengthens the publishing industry as a whole.
You can read TheGrio's announcement here: https://lnkd.in/gZ7TPf-W
hashtag#BLKBestsellerList hashtag#ReginaBrooks hashtag#PublishingNews hashtag#AfricanAmericanLiteratureBookClub hashtag#BlackAuthors hashtag#BlackWriters hashtag#BlackBookAcceleratorLinkedIn
AALBC Launches BLK Bestseller List with TheGrio Partnersh...
AALBC.com and the Black Book Accelerator — led by Troy Johnson, Carrie J. Bloxson, Linda A. Duggins, Peter Hildick-Smith, Brian Hurley, and me — have launched one of the first major initiatives of the-
1
-
-
RMNewsletter 5th version 05172026
What is Problematic art?
#rmnewsletter #richardmurrayhumblr #rmaalbc #hddeviant #richardmurray #rmworkcalendar #rmcommunitycalendar #black337
#economiccorner #artcomments #kentuckyderby #sunsetchildrenstories #problematic
-
3 hours ago, ProfD said: I didn't read that into what I actually wrote.
cause it wasn't what you wrote, you wrote a question about what in the past led to a situation today, and I wrote about what needs to happen in the future to solve the situation you stated.
3 hours ago, ProfD said: I'm questioning how China can be considered an enemy or boogeyman given their labor force producing a huge amount of products & the Chinese presence in the USA.😎
exactly, what i said wasn't to answer your question of how things got to today. But I did comprehend your question. You already know the answer to the question. Maybe you don't accept it, but you know.
-
It seems to me what your suggesting needs to happen in the future is for people ,more people, the ninety nine percent 99%, the majority in the united states of america u.s.a., to embrace adjusting more positively to the fiscal environment or governmental bureaucracies of the u.s.a. led by the u.s.a.'s one percent fiscal wealthy, even if they didn't want them, were unable to stop them being implemented, are suffering under them, or some negative.
I can say many people, various phenotypes/genders/religions/ages/ in various geographies in the usa have stated similar to you. There is a movement of people in the usa who stand with you. Is it a majority? I don't know, and I gamble no.
In the two hundred and fifty year history of the united states of america, i argue a majority in the populace across all racial types [phenotype/gender /religion or others] have been impatient or unsatisfied with the system. But, the minority in this country has always found a way with its resources to stop the impatient majority from jumping to violence to anarchy/a system absent any ruler whether be the law or an individual. Said minority which today includes women plus blacks plus latinos has gotten the majority to embrace stillness, do nothing which isn't patience it is a calm before a storm, in which every time the calm is extended the storm gets bigger. Two hundred and fifty year is a long extension.
I end with positive... some say strong people lead themselves. I argue a peoples goals dictate their actions. Complacency isn't equivalent to weakness, complacency can occur when one is actually happy with the way things are, not merely being coerced into activity by others. The problem with the populaces that make up the majority in the usa is they need to be convinced that engagement will lead to results each populace wants, something that has never happened in the usa. To restate the usa has never had a time in its history where native americans/blacks/whites/ latinos/women men/old/young/immigrants/orphans/prisoners/ or others got what they wanted. Either few win or all lose is what happens in the usa. So the only way for that to be undone is an era of leadership . The usa had a great era of multiracial leadership in the 1960s that was assassinated/poisoned/imprisoned/similar injury by a combination of fiscal plus governmental agents who had something to lose if all groups won. But if a a great era of multiracial leadership can happen once, it can happen again.
But, one must have patience.
https://aalbc.com/tc/events/event/735-economic-corner-40-05162026/
-
-
RMnewsletter 5th version 05102026
Happy Mother's Day
DSA 2026
in Culture, Race & Economy
@Pioneer1
not at all, i used the search term in quotations "democratic social" in the search box for culture forum and the post came up. It was so few I placed them all in the post to highlight. This is the near anniversary of when i posted about mamdani last year https://aalbc.com/tc/events/event/363-zohran-mamdani-legislation/ https://aalbc.com/tc/events/event/363-zohran-mamdani-legislation/
and added with the current events i figure, let me share my thoughts but I place you guys positions over the years as well.
haha:) no, mel desn't know me nor I know her, but she doesn't like being tagged with a position that isn't supported or given some comprehensive defense. I tagged her to cite her , which I would do again if not for her desires, but she is a reader like most of us in this forum and in reading my post was triggered by my unsupported position. Unfortunately, she doesn't read me well which is something many dont, troy nor profd read me well either. and that angers me, but ... .no problem.