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Exactly , exactly. The point is whomever is the producer, can override directors /actors or anyone else... the money is in control.
I comprehend your point completely. If I was the producer of the upside I still would do what i said. but, in parallel, as producer, if I had five movies that I was certain to finance and begin preproduction in 2024, none would be like the upside.
My five would be:
1) a high john the conqueror film[you will not want to produce this] - animation +fantasy
2) a fantasy film concerning ancient nubia- fantasy+history+live action
3) I admit, a science fiction film of my own writing:)
4) a film copying the basic idea of blood syndicate of milestone [you will not finance this film and will probably speak against it in media:) ]- superhero+action
5) and while I don't care to remakes in general. I am a big fan of three the hard way, not a fan of dolemite, so we can co produce, a new three the hard way. action film, live action
In things I would like to produce I have preferences. And i prefer, more positive depictions of black people than in the upside than in white produced media. What you have to comprehend is I grew up with positive black images in media. I realize you and most black people sadly didn't, but I did.
And I would oppose financing a film where a black billionaire helps a white felon. Not my money.
well, to the films that involved black people in the 1970s. first, most of those films were written or directed by whites. I made whole post in this community, But from a fiscal perspective, most were what we will call today independent films. What i think you miss is that as black wealth in the usa increased, the larger studios made black films, but larger studios come with a less genre based style.
You talk of three the hard way, that movie wasn't made by paramount or disney or mgm or universal or 20th century fox or columbia pictures.
Sweet sweetback independent, distributed by small distributor.
Cotton comes to harlem, samuel goldwyn, small producer
Shaft which is from a white author which black people seem to not realize, was small too, mgm distributed. but they didn't finance.
foxy borwn, american international pictures, again small
uptown saturday night produced by first artists
cooley high, american international again
corn bread earl and me, american international
Even the wiz was produced by motown , distributed by universal
sparkle was independent like sweetback
superfly was independent produced, warner bros distributed.
So I hope I proved my point. You speak of the 1970s films usually financed or written by whites that involve black characters, but most of the post 1980s films that have black characters are not produced by small studios, these are major studio films and with that comes a different angle. Major studios are not going to make films like small independent studios. That has always been the truth. And to be blunt, black movie goers, don't help. whereas black movie goers in the 1970s were willing to see superfly. They were not as interested in low budget meteor man I think no less quality than foxy brown but had an epiphany with black panther. So independent films don't resonante with the modern black film going audience as in the 1970s.
I have been fortunate to learn a little bit about the film industry. The blunt truth is, Oprah/Pioneer or anyone black could produce that movie. I know it could be produced in NYC 100%. 100%. Now would it be circulated in theaters, advertised all over the world? that requires far more money than making the film in a lot of cases. Making films is in parts. Getting the money to finance to make a film is doable, even for black wealth. But getting the movie advertised plus shown is .. expensive. The barbie movie for example, spent more money on the advertisement and campaigns than the movie. And, to the OWN network, well, networks work by advertisers. The OWN network is a poor example to use. But, online their are film hosting sites for nollywood or owned by black people. They could easily host the film. But will it get advertised. Will people buy subscriptions for this one film. I don't know. BUT, the film, black billionaire+ white felon, can be made. Remember, white man's burden 1995 is functionally in the same zone as the film pioneer1 talks about producing. MAking films is not as hard as people think but it is the adveritising, the showing all over the world which is very expensive, really doubles the money and for non special effects laden films, most producers/advertisers/accountants will oppose as the revenue on return is usually calculated as not good enough
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It's funny, in the movies that move we review, Nike seconds your sentiment. This is based on a true story, which was made into a french film and then a usa film. In france as in the usa, labor is designed to place people based on phenotype into a solid form, a stereotype. In the real story, the french film or the usa film a key plot point is that he is an exconvict who through opportunity , a rare thing given to exconvicts the world over, is lifted.
If you ask me, does the upside film continue the stereotype of financially downtrodden black men in white european produced film, not all media,not all types of produced film, but white european produced film? yes. Now I could argue black people need to stop watching white produced film if they don't like how white money usually accepts portraying blacks but... I find all the black images i need in black produced artwork: books/music/graphical representatons/film I don't require white produced art to show black people positively. Sequentially, for me, black excon's isn't a stereotype in the media that matters most to me.
If you ask me, if I was the producer , would I demand the story plot point remain the same? yes. I would not accepted writers making kevin hart a construction worker recently laid off or a college drop out. Not my produced film. Maybe cause in NYC I know fully well what incarceration has done to the black community in NYC, I like a black man from prison, getting opportunity, and using it successfully to a positive end. If a writer says to me, the producer, the money, they want to change kevin hart's characters background to a college dropout or construction worker laid off, I will reply no way. A white excon is able in real life but in fiction a black excon can't? I don't like that messaging and not with my money.
If you, Pioneer1 are the producer of said film, based on your words, and with the only change left you can make to manipulate kevin hart's characters background, you demand writers make kevin hart a construction worker laid off or college student dropped out, am I correct? your answer in comments please
my evidence cause I know among black people in the usa, this is always needed.
https://www.gala.fr/stars_et_gotha/abdel_sellou
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@Pioneer1 I quote what you said that was wrong... in my opinion
QuoteJust a re-enforcement of stereotypes.
The main theme is no matter how "good hearted" the Black character may be, he's still a crook and criminal and not to be trusted.
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@Chevdove it is in the fiscally rich man meets the fiscally poor man mold. It is meant to be a feel good. I can tell you without unveiling the story that in the end, all the main characters and the subsequent characters are happy, deservedly.
@ProfD yeah, well it's a feel good film. It isn't mean tto show much hardship but really overcoming with a happy resolution for all
@Pioneer1 This film isn't a comedy. this is a feel good film. There are comical moments but even those are in an unfunny premise.
Your wrong, the subtext of the film is how people going through different struggles can help each other. In the end of the film, Hart has reversed his fiscal level from the beginning of the film absent any illegal or criminal activity.
Did you even see the review?
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@Pioneer1 I don't recall the series well enough:) I will have to see it again.
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@Dee Miller haha fair enough
I could had said, the usa populace is a collection of peoples that all need to go their own way, but whenever i say something that simple people refute it
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I am willing to review, how do i get your book?
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The problem is the question, what do you want the USA to be tomorrow?
Rubio doesn't want what Amhayes want.
Dee Miller doesn't want what amhayes or Rubio want.
Richard doesn't want what Rubio, Amhayes or Dee Miller want.
A multiracial blend, the racism based on future of the usa, not phenotype.
But when a multiracial gathering of people live under one government, the collision of wants is a natural problem.
Cause someone has to not get their way, they have to lose. But more than that, they have to lose with a smile.
That is the nonviolent mantra or wish that government agents or various advocates in the usa utter all the time.
And why does it fail, because what people , all humans, forget at times is people can be very happy in negative scenarios for other humans.
The simple truth is the souhern states in the usa were never as fiscally wealthy or militaristically potent than pre war between the states. And every year after is a reminder of the south that was lost. Am I happy said south was lost? yes 100% but that doesn't mean a white person of said south , living today is.
People don't hate change in itself, they hate change when they lose with the change. And the usa has a history of people losing moe with change than they could possibly gain, and this energy is getting stronge rby the day but has been growing since the 1960s.
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not at all congrats man!!! will share:)
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@ProfD I wish you would had continued reading, I didn't ask you what they should had did, I asked you your opinion of their. Please continue reading my prose. Having opinions about the past isn't trying to rewrite the past. Or maybe you don't have any opinion on anything in the past, which is fine. I know many black people like that, it isn't negative. I am not like that. I have an opinion on everything in the past.
And why does said opinion matter, cause many black people in the usa are part of a tribe who don't feel any debt is owed,in any form, to black people from whites or the usa.
This post started with Obama and perceptions to him. But for me, the issue is how black people see our populace. The problem is, too many black people in the usa don't have the ability to embrace the internal racial multivides in the black populace in the usa and make their goals with their own tribe
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So what you are saying is that of the two black initial tribes before the usa was founded: enslaved/free, the free which was less than ten percent of the black populace needed a way, to dismantle white power. question how were the over 90% of blacks who were enslaved going to help or be communicated with, you comprehend they were enslaved to whites yes?
And, you are also saying that of the three black initial tribes during the usa's birth: enslaved/free anti usa/free pro usa, again , enslaved was still 90% of the black populace, the two free that were free needed to figure out a way to dismantle white power, but the free pro usa blacks bought into it, so you are saying they were fools? And the free anti usa lost in a war, they fought and lost, war isn't a game, somebody has to lose. But it seems you feel the free anti usa were wrong for opposing the usa while the free pro usa were wrong for joining the usa. I think you will forgive enslaved blacks for being enslaved.
am I correct?
@Troy What explicitly is the problem, the various tribes in the black populace in the usa with all their varying viewpoints or opinions or goals have not chosen to address?
The point I have been making continually is Obama could had did one thing for all black tribes in the usa , which is a straight forward public acknowledgement. I didn't say anything nonverbal: money/supplies/resources/connections these are nonverbal things. Obama didn't do nonverbal things for the black populace in the illinois county he was elected in, it is silly in my mind to think he will do more for a larger black populace in the usa.
But, Obama for the black populace in his illinois district or illinois as a senator or the usa as a president could had simply publicly stated black tribes exists and are not compatible, are not unitable, are not unionable. A nonverbal action that doesn't help any black tribe in the usa outside of getting a high profile black person in the usa to admit something that is clearly historical fact but no black leader at any time or clout: mlk jr/malcolm/frederick douglass/marcus garvey/obama/sharpton/fannie lou hamer/shirley chisholm has ever publicly said loudly.
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@Troy I explained poorly then. Not for the first time in this community. More experience for me to explain my thoughts better. All I can say now is while any other can derive my meaning to suggest all success is verbal through my own explanation of my meaning to verbal + nonverbal success , to me, to me, to me, verbal success is clearly dissimilar from nonverbal success.
@ProfD well...outside the usa i concur to you 100%. I think in brazil/nigeria/india/jamaica/germany/philipines the tribes in the black populaces can work better together, can overcome frictions or dislikes. But the black tribes in the usa are a unique set for me. Black christian chruches made their bed, did many things to hurt other tribes. Black christian churches harmed the black militants like the panthers/opposed to firmly black nationalists like the garveyites or exodusters/betrayed in public the urban black populaces in the big cities. I think many tribes in the black populace in the usa have reason to have large dislikes between them.
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@Dee Miller the internet is very large Dee, glad you was able to get something. Please tell more of your experiences with blackoak in aalbc. ... I have only traveled less than one percent of the internet's many places. I know I miss many opportunities cause one can't go everywhere online.
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