richardmurray

@Pioneer1

I will never say my forebears enslavement was positive in any way, cause it simply wasn't in any way, at least to me. I think too many black people word our ancestors recent past incorrectly like that. But,  one of the positives in our reply to being enslaved, which to me is the delicacy i was trying to explain, is that we have figured out how to be the kind of community you have to be in a multiracial community the usa suggests it is. It hasn't been easy. Our ancestors didn't have to choose that path and not all our ancestors or an overwhelming majority of our ancestors chose that path. I am not trying to suggest the black community in the usa has acted correctly or functionally but has positives. It's delicate pioneer, a delicate tale. If you tell it bluntly like you just did, you override the negativities in enslavement, you override the many black ancestors who in choosing other paths were in many ways betrayed by the black people who chose the non violent integration. 

As a sister said less than a six months ago, a representative in the california district where the black family, the bruce's got a financial owed money not reparations, the black family won , but the black community didn't

https://aalbc.com/tc/profile/6477-richardmurray/?status=2349&type=status

@ProfD 

Well, I was specific, and not by accident. Black people throughout humanity outside the usa shouldn't follow the black community in the usa. The black community in the usa is a community in a very unique negative circumstance that had to battle its own desires to reach this place of nonviolent growth in the most potent white empire in modernity. 

And to your query. When I think about frederick douglass's position which , rightly or wrongly, became and is the philosophical standard for majority of black leaders in the usa, then the desire for ownership you speak of is anti-usa/statian . 

https://aalbc.com/tc/blogs/entry/357-frederick-douglass-our-composite-nation/

The simple truth is, all the communities not white european panreligious <meaning those not white european christian/jews/muslims/other religions or their descendents >in the usa complain about impotency, all of them. But, they all miss what Frederick Douglass's point was, which is why black audiences booed the speech linked above when Douglass spoke it. The USA, if it is to be a integrated multiracial place can't be a place for your communities self empowerment. Yes, asians, you don't get representation in media or in government. Yes, Blacks you don't get to own everything in your community. Only the white european community gets all aspects in the usa, but that is the point. If you are not white european and want all powers, then you have to leave the usa. Please add to your financial assessment of asians in the usa three points: 1) asians < as well as white jews> have never been blockaded from owning business completely like blacks so asians have a larger history of generational wealth than blacks in the usa or the european colonies that preceded it 2)asians as willing immigrants have always linked financially to countries in asia while black DOSersunwillingly/forced to be into the usa had all links to africa or the caribbean or elsewhere severed completely, so black dosers don't have external countries to leverage financial activity like asians, who have in asia even more potent financial markets in modernity 3) black people never owned a majority of the land in any city in which they lived in the usa, black people didn't invite asians in black communities in NYC/ LA/ Chicago or other, the cities , meaning the white community in said cities, owned that land and asians opened their businesses through the city, not because black people invited asian owned business, so the black community in all geographic sectors of the usa never owned the land in lived on to dictate who does business where it lives, that is a resultant of enslavement. 

I am not saying your wrong but your position lacks all the details needed to explain it fairly concerning black people. Your position makes it seem like it was some even playing field and black people were stupid. That wasn't how today became.

@Troy

In your proposition you didn't mention lawsuits, you didn't mention fan reaction. If black players leave the NFL 100% which never happens in humanity anywhere. 100% of jews don't support israel or have issue with jews being disrespected in media. But if 100% of black players left the NFL, the owners of teams would perform legal action , let alone will fans react in support? The thing about these kind of sccenarios is the environment isn't just the players and how do you get the owners to not make it very hard, how do you get fans to support it? You dump the situation on the players lap. if only the players/coaches or the nfl did then the NFL would merely go on without the black players, the nfl owners wouldn't use legal actions , if only the nfl black employees did then fans will simply embrace two new leagues and the black league even under duress would financially survive. .. I Don't think so Troy. I think what you say needs the nfl owners , needs the usa government- especially legally, the fanbases which is also global to change and I see the changing slower than the players. The reason it will not happen is all those you didn't mention. 

@Pioneer1 

one of the problems for black people in the usa as a community is its positives or negatives are delicate in description, none are simple. I think many black or non black people who like to speak negatively toward black people in the usa in general tend to define the positives or negatives in simple terms. 

Yes the black community in the usa  doesn't have the financial wealth of whites in the usa. Yes the black community  in the usa isn't dominating the world populace like the whites from the usa. 

One of the most positive elements of the black community in the usa is after all of whites enslavement plus the black communities nonviolent path's challenges aside the whites who chose to abuse us after enslaving us, the black community in the usa is where it is at. 

Is it ideal? no. Is it the dream of the ancestors or forebears? hell no, far far from it. But, it is something rarely positive  that in a country that represents the height of white european global imperial power, the usa,  you have the second most abused community in said country, the first is the native american, having reached such a place as a community in such a non violent and supportive way to said country. 

it's delicate. It is not ideal. It is not the dream. And, many black people's true desires have died in this path. But,  through all the challenges the black community in the usa is still on a slow upswing and that is something, not simple to say like we're rich or powerful, but I think those black or non black people who like to or mostly speak ill to black people in the usa don't have the ability or desire or wisdom to articulate. 

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Fair enough

Yeah the word ban has a stigma so grand + negative that many dislike it

Yes, I am a hard headed as a commentor:) 

my pleasure @Troy nice dialog:) 

Great work @Troy

@Troy  fair enough to the industry

but do readers determine the commercial or creative quality in your opinion? to me readers can only determine the commercial quality

@Troy I see, yeah, restrictions are a form of bans. That is first and foremost. 

But the word usage goes back to why I am verbose.  A restriction isn't a complete ban but a restriction is any incomplete ban.

In the same way, age recommendations on a book is a open restriction , or a form of banning. As well as readers taste or publishers taste being a restriction or a form of ban. 

@nels how would I be sure to know what you are thinking?  I am not. I don't know you. You are a stranger. I can only assume.

But, you said

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Didn't say that or imply. Just noting a perspective.

https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/10460-how-many-of-these-accounts-did-i-approve/?do=findComment&comment=62691

Now, were you telling me the truth , i don't know, I am not trying to find out, but you said just noting a perspective. 

What is the solution @Troy to changing the style of the internet ?

Good comment @Troy

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all people want to do is ban books nowadays

Of course, the usa has a growing ban book culture,  it is inevitable. Maybe my dislike, extreme dislike,  for the USA makes it easy for me. But of course Troy. 

IS the usa the government which has never figured out how to govern a multiracial populace where all of its races are positively growing?  yes. Communities that don't like each other ban each other. Outside enslavement of black people from anywhere, all other immigration policies from the usa government have always been against the voting majority. This is historical fact. Most people in the usa didn't want ellis island. Most people in the usa didn't want the immigration act in the 1960s. Fiscally wealthy white europeans initially, later in all phenotypes or other racial categories,  have always been the true engine to immigration to the usa , not the fiscally common folk, thus the banning. Anyone trying to get into government knows full well most people in the usa can't stand the stranger. They tolerate because of a complex mix of legal system /military power/complex heritage in the usa. 

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The market will sort this out.

Do you say that as an affirmation of fiscal capitalism or just in this case? 

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 the quality of the book, or lack thereof, wasn't addressed.  That should be the primary consideration when evaluating the merits of a book -

Who determines the qualities of a book ?  What are the qualities of a book? 

You mentioned the market before.  The market determines the quality? The market determines the qualities that are valuable? 

In my mind, all art has a creative side commercial existence. The creative side is in my mind beyond judgements cause its creative. 

Commercially I think judgmental elements exist based on commerce results being revenue. but when people speak of qualities in the arts I think too often , the creative is mixed side the commercial nonchalantly or factly and that is dysfunctional for me. 

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 How did that happen?  

I thought she said she didn't know. I have to reread I may have gotten confused to another article.

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There will come a time when AI generated books will exceed the quality of the majority of human written books

The tragedy of the internet and the tools it gives access to is most in humanity aren't connected to it while the populace that is, embraces it almost like a drug. 

I see @nels so when you commented

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Self-defeating?

you weren't asking a question based on your position, you were asking a question based on a perspective you don't share?

ok.  

@Troy I apologize I should had been clear, I am relating aalbc to the behemoths, allbc compared to the average is large:) 

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1:37 There is never a better time to be a writer
ACLS survey said that the median UK author is 8,000 pounds. 
But on the other said, more readers than ever. 

3:12 Indie author revenue is trending higher. Trade paperback is fine. Get stories to readers who will enjoy them

4:25 he was traditionally published by mcmillan. 
he had two shots, no one will give him a third. 
Then two friends published some stuff digitally, and they made a little money and contacted readers. 
Then when he made more money than his day job, he cut ties and rely on his writing full time.

6:25 he waited till he made fiv eto six times more than his day job

6:59 what is the biggest change in the industry? 
When he started you could get away with a less tidy book. You have to have a cover designer. You have to have a blurb. You need it edited. You could upload a book, you have to advertise. 
No writer can find significant success absent advertising. 

8:55 what made you start self publishing formula? The community of self publishers are more welcome to sharing.
He could have kept it to himself but it wasn't altruistic. Self publishing formula is a business with emplouyees about the world. So SPF made money helping writers learn. 

11:30 You say advertising is the way to go these day? why is advertising so important these day s and your SPF starter course? 
The course is free for weeks. It's a good option to learn without taking a course without financial stakes. 
We will teach you to invest in facebook ads and how to grow readers.

13:08 Which is the main ad platform for indie authors?
Facebook, am*zon, bookbub. Which one is most important is on circumstance. 
If you are on am*zon, exclusive to am*zon, am*zon is most important. IF not, Facebook ads. 

14:45 Do you still run all your own ads? 
Yes, he has looked but he hasn't found someone to do it for him. Problem with agencies is you are another line on a spreadsheet. He is a control freak which doesn't help. He enjoys it too. He likes spreadsheets. 
... he does see great husband wife partnerships. he shared an example of a couple. It is a cool trend. 

18:08 What is a good metric for an ad, to say that it is working?
It is the turn on investment. Making more than your spending. Kobo helped in the past learn the read through rate. He has seen ads where authors have killed them but not realizing those readers were migrating to their other books through that ad. 

19:38 how often should authors check ads?
If you don't have a huge budget you want to be in their often. am*zon is based on clicks instead of impressions. It is time intensive. Once you have the factors nailed, it takes time to find the right spot. He checks a few times a day. For am*zon tweaking regularly. Facebook do the test for you these days. Facebook will find out the one that is best so it will find out. 

21:37 Chatgpt is good at advertising. 
He asked it for a facebook ad. That ad is working well for facebook. As computer program services becomes more powerful it will be great for writing. 

22:44 It can make Blurbs. Chatgpt can give a good stab. Better for a starting point than starting with a blank page.

23:16 Do you change ad tactic for audiobook as ebook?
Translations give his most ad tactic change. But Chatgpt can speak german as well. You may not know how well it emits but it can be useful. In the end, the ad format doesn't matter much across.

24:37 What is consistent across authors with failed authors?
Authors don't think ads are not when they are if you take in readership and associated purposed. and people put it tons of ads and that goes against the algorithm. Also ignoring sales , organic sales, they will have a car crash in ad data. 

26:06 Do you see some authors do a month long ad campaign and they fail cause that is all their doing?
He does an ad campaign all the time. I rather see an ad for book 1 than see the others. With ebook, the infinite backlist makes it safe to keep going. But he isn't well known so. Background residual ads can reach or do reach new people are remembered. It is on him as a writer to temp to go to the next one. 

28:09 How did the ads in the trian tube go?
He didn't pay. You can't track it. He had a life goal achieved. He will probably not doing it again. It was good for an image in social post. He has posted the image from that alot. 

29:58 the richard and judy book club is huge, how did it work? 
He has a deal with a publisher called welbeck in the united kingdom. He doesn't comprehend why publishers don't risk indie authors with a paper publishing when they have many readers plus reviews. Now he is in every store. He had another life goal. In a store chain in england. It is a sign of things in your reach. It may not be a big money deal but validation.

32:10 How important is your newsletter list in your marketing strategy? Is offering a novella for free still helping your list?
Yes. building look a like list. Focus as many avenues as readers to get the newsletters. YOu have to make it valuable to join in. 

33:38 What frequency is your newsletter?
It was a once a month. It is once a release. Bimonthly. He has taken inspiration from the romance authors who are usually better than anyone else. They can talk about something in their lives. Good to share readers yourself.

35:02 Marketing is heavily on indie authors or is building a newsletter good for publishing deals?
Yes, publishers will ask, how many people you have in your newsletters? how many followers to your spaces?

36:01 How do you balance your schedule?
Self Publishing Formula has ten people now. He doesn't have as much to do. It is delegating . He has two kids and a dog. These are all first world problems. He isn't complaigning, but it can be a juggle. 

37:37 What is next and where can authors learn more about your course?
Selfpublishingformula.com 
 

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How AI-Generated Books Could Hurt Self-Publishing Authors

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Just two days after the Maui wildfires began, on Aug. 10, a new book was self-published, Fire and Fury: The Story of the 2023 Maui Fire and its Implications for Climate Change by “Dr. Miles Stones” (no such person seems to exist). I learned about the book from this Forbes article, but by then, am*zon had removed the book from sale. am*zon had no comment for Forbes on the situation.

Curious about how far the book might have spread, I did a Google search for the book’s ISBN number (9798856899343). To my surprise, I saw the book was also for sale at Bookshop and Barnes & Noble. I tweeted about the situation, noting that IngramSpark, a division of Ingram, must be distributing these books to the broader retail market. My assumption was that retailers, in particular Bookshop, would not accept self-published books coming out of am*zon’s KDP. (am*zon KDP authors can choose to enable am*zon’s Expanded Distribution at no cost, to reach retail markets outside of am*zon.)

It turns out my assumption was wrong. Bookshop does accept self-published books distributed by am*zon, and here things get a little convoluted. am*zon Expanded Distribution uses Ingram to distribute; Ingram is the biggest book distributor and there isn’t really any other service to use for distribution as far as the US/UK.

However, Bookshop’s policy is not to sell AI-generated books unless they are clearly labeled as such, so Fire and Fury was removed from sale after they were alerted to its presence. Bookshop’s founder Andy Hunter tweeted: “We will pull them from @Bookshop_Org when we find them, but it’s always going to be a challenge to support self-published authors while trying to NOT support AI fakes.”

And now we come to why self-publishing authors have reason to be seriously concerned about the rising tide of AI-generated books.

am*zon KDP is unlikely to ever prohibit AI-generated content. Even if it did create such a policy, there are no surefire detection methods for AI-generated material today.

am*zon KDP authors can easily enable expanded distribution to the broader retail market at no cost to them. It’s basically a checkbox.

am*zon uses Ingram to distribute, and Ingram reaches everyone who matters—bookstores, libraries, and all kinds of retailers. Ingram does have a policy, however, that they may not accept “books created using artificial intelligence or automated processes.”

Based on what happened with Fire and Fury, am*zon’s expanded distribution can make a book available for sale at Barnes & Noble and Bookshop in a matter of days.

If the rising tide of AI-generated material keeps producing such questionable books—along with embarrassing and unwanted publicity—one has to ask if Barnes & Noble and Bookshop might decide to stop accepting self-published books altogether from Ingram or otherwise limit their acceptance. Obviously not good news for self-published authors, or Ingram either.

What are some potential remedies?

Ingram is an important waypoint here. They’ve put stronger quality control measures in place before. Perhaps they can be strengthened to prevent the worst material from reaching the market outside of am*zon.

am*zon’s Expanded Distribution requires that authors use am*zon’s free ISBNs. Would it be possible for retailers to block any title with an am*zon ISBN? (ISBNs identify the publisher or where the material originated from.) While that may be unfair to honest people who prefer to use am*zon’s Expanded Distribution, such authors/publishers would still have the option of setting up their own IngramSpark account. IngramSpark has no upfront fees and also provides free ISBNs.

Maybe IngramSpark or other retailers put a delay on making am*zon’s Expanded Distribution titles available for sale. am*zon already states it can take up to eight weeks for the book to go on sale. So why not make such titles wait?

Free ISBNs unfortunately contribute to this problem

ISBNs are a basic requirement to sell a print book through retail channels today. In the US, it is expensive to purchase ISBNs—it’s nearly $300 for ten. am*zon KDP does not require authors to purchase ISBNs and will give you ISBNs for free all day if you need them. Over time, others like IngramSpark and Draft2Digital have also made ISBNs free to make it easier for self-publishing authors to distribute their work.

While it’s admirable to lower the barriers for authors who have limited funds, free ISBNs are supercharging the distribution of AI-generated materials to the wider retail market. An immediate way to stem this tide of garbage in the US market? Stop giving out free ISBNs. Make authors purchase their own.

There’s a huge advantage to making authors purchase their own ISBNs: it creates an identifiable publisher of record with Bowker (the ISBN-issuing agency in the United States). The publisher of record would be listed at retailers. Currently, fraudsters using am*zon KDP are able to hide behind am*zon-owned ISBNs; their books are simply listed as “independently published.” It would be marvelous to take away that fig leaf. Sure, fraudsters could create sham entities that mean nothing and are unfindable in the end, but at least you could connect the dots on all the titles they’re releasing—plus Bowker would see who’s doing the purchasing and possibly put their own guardrails in place. My hope is these entities would choose not to buy ISBNs at all and this activity would become limited to the backwaters of am*zon.

Professional self-publishing authors who distribute widely outside of am*zon are buying their own ISBNs already. Those who aren’t? I would consider it, because if nothing changes about the current situation, we may be entering a period where a book without an identifiable publisher (or author) is immediately considered suspect. And that’s another problem for self-publishing authors.

As of this writing, Barnes & Noble still has Fire and Fury listed, with a sales rank of #24. But it is “temporarily out of stock,” which makes sense if am*zon is the distributor and it took down the book. How long will the ghost of it linger?

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@ProfD no one can change the past, no one. Your correct. My intent wasn't to suggest the past need to be changed, the only thing that can truly be changed between today side yesterday  is how anyone interpret the past. 

some black parents are, I concur. 

Many, don't be gentle, I argue most black folks in the USA beg to differ, regardless of their financial status. Which is fine, I don't have any problem with that. 

@ProfD  All I will say is your comment

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@richardmurray, I'm not evading the point. I seriously doubt the Rabbis and priests they're grooming these white boys to be cannot read and write.

 

More importantly, this Jewish children story is immaterial to the plight of Black children. Jews can take care of their own. 

 

I cannot speak for immigrant Black folks but AfroAmerican children specifically cannot afford to not be able read and write.

 

The future of an AfroAmerican child is dependent on his/her ability to communicate both oral and written. 

 

To the best of our abilities, AfroAmericans provide children with food, clothing, shelter and love. The essential ingredients for them to survive, thrive and flourish. 

 

So, you are correct, me and every other AfroAmerican adult has a responsibility to encourage our young people to learn as much as they can because it's their only means of survival within the system of racism white supremacy. 

is in my view a disconnect , or not a reply to my point. You have simply reaffirmed your positions, But it doesn't relate to my point. About the past of the black community in the usa , its failures and how it has developed a dysfunctional heritage of parents to child. But I will say this. I was fortunate. My two black parents never lied to me about the world and I realize now how thankful I am for that. 

@nels your missing the point. 

On the internet, all websites, all websites, all websites, have to deal with fake accounts. Yes, many websites in earlier days of the internet embraced these fake accounts, made some themselves,  to manipulate their image.  but, AALBC is a small website, and it  isn't trying to give fake accounts a level playing field with accounts of interactive users. The compartmentalization is to tier and block fake accounts in an effective way for a small website to promote an inequal playing field between fake accounts and functional accounts. 

It seems to me, your suggesting finding a way to make  fake accounts impotent  will hinder the growth of allbc which is an odd position in my mind, cause I don't want fake accounts comments or interaction.  Maybe you do. 

@ProfD  No, the standardized test of NYC can not be failed that large a percent and suggest they can read and write. no, its below par and again, a white jewish mother is why the case came forward. she was the one who was unsatisfied so... 

BUT you like many of the other commentors are evading the point

YOu and many others who comment will speak to great lengths if black children failed in any way like these white children. Black children who unlike these white children are given nothing equivalent in gifts/money/ leisure/opportunity. 

All of you don't want to admit that the lean on me school never failed like these jewish schools have for decades, but your mouths are open all the time speaking to black children about what black children need to do while you are not providing for black children like white adults. 

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We have patience you will succeed @Troy It will all work out. 

Right, the goal is to block user capability. With the overall design of the internet plus the tools available to those who want to invade various services online, it will be hard , nearest impossible to block access to the website, sequentially to fake accounts. But, you can block access to certain functions to all accounts fake or otherwise based on their activity which the badges even represent.  If FuckNiggers is a new member with the face of Naomi Campbell why should that person be able to comment on  posts that Richardmurray marked for only quality members. All members can view but why should all members be able to comment and like? Let members place their content in spaces. If Richard Murray makes a forum posts and finances of black children in the united states under ten years old and marks it for all members and FuckNiggers post a gif of a woman juggling her breast, that is richard murray's fault. You shouldn't have to spend time deleting accounts, make accounts earn spaces and let users be wise enough who have earned spaces to mark their content into spaces if they earned the ability. 

We will get there. 

As I said a while back, black people in the usa or elsewhere talk about what we don't do offline. And that is a complex thing. It isn't a straiight line or necessarily simple. But the one place Black people actually in my life time have been totally free to act is online and we don't act together here as potently as we could 

@nels self defeating in what way? Please explain your query in more detail

@Pioneer1 did you read the article, the jewish kids failed the standardized test over 90%, can you imagine how you would react if any black school had over 90% failure on a standardized test. It doesn't matter what methods the white jewish school were using for the white jewish  children, they failed over 90% on the standardized tests. 

All kids in NYC have to take the standardized tests. The white jewish children been failing it for a long time.  And, maybe you didn't read the article but the lawsuit that exposed this came from a white jewish parent who felt her child was being disserviced by the white jewish school. Did you read the article? 

Either you didn't read the article or you don't want to accept the truth it point to. Your position is invalid in the context of that article. 

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Consider this game if you have black chidlren, you can play offline with them, and do various things, not just killing. everybody in the house can make a black looking character 

@Troy wait, you have added an adjective.  See this is the problem. I am speaking of racism, purely. Now you are saying american racism, which is more specific. 

You say I am wrong but then you use an adjective like that. 

Well... in the home I grew up in knowledge isn't enough, erudition and wisdom are more valuable. You say what I say may confuse black folks in the usa... well, then that explains the real problem.  The problem isn't word definitions. The problem by your assertion is that the black community in the usa has developed and accepted incorrect, simple terms for convenience. That is a negative. 

I rather them be confused and then over time gain erudition and not be confused. Why should we speak to our kin as if they can't handle things. I oppose what you suggest. If an idea may confuse, it should be conveyed and the challenge is to comprehend which you can in time.

What one human can do another can do. If one human , barring injury or manipulation, can comprehend a thing than so can any other, in similar fashion.

Why is it you refute what I cited in the following comment? 

I know you don't troy. For you + @Pioneer1, as I said in the prior comment , you both link race to bias, and they are not linked... at least let me amend and say , me side others do not link racism with bias, while you Troy + Pioneer side others link racism to bias. Negativity utilizing a racism is negative bias. Bias is also positive. When a parent favors their child. That is a positive bias to their child using a genetically based racism, the racism being bloodline.

It isn't based upon, again, your words + Pioneer's show a constant linkage and I oppose that. Racism can exist with unbiased approaches. You and Pioneer suggest that racism can not exist absent bias. I oppose that. When I walk out in the street, i see white people. I don't want to automatically attack them nor do I automatically want to run away from them and the law nor a set of conduct nor fear have anything to do with it.