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  1. @Pioneer1

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    My question would be, how do nations like China and North Korea control THEIR internet and what is allowed to be accessed by their citizens if people can't control access to websites?

     

    The answer is China + North Korea are technically governments, more specific than nations <the word nations is poor in this case>, and the commonly used internet aside the global legal system , both created by the usa, provided two pathways.

    1) Intergovernmental law allows a government the ability to blockade what media comes in or out, the usa does it all the time, all governments do. The internet is media.

    2) the protocols or rules that make up the internet allow for regional or specifically geographic control through the geocodes in the protocol addressess. Yes, people can tunnel or worm through, this happens in the usa or china or north korea or many other governments every day . 

     

    You use the words people + nations, which suggest the black community in the usa or the ugyars in china are equivalent to governments, like the usa or china. They are not. The ugyars mostly  live in china in the same way most Black DOSers live in the USA. So to be functional, DOSers need their own government. Now, if Black DOSers had their own state in the union, which is legally plausible in the USA, then it is possible, that a state in the usa, under state law, which can override federal law in situations, can make a blockade of internet access. Yes, people can argue freedom of speech but only if an internet service provider is of the government not a private institution or publicly traded firm does freedom of speech have no bounds. but again this wouldn't stop every scenario but will reflect the scenario you speak of with China + North Korea+ as well as the USA+Russia + et cetera. 

     

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    But what is YOUR definition of a "Black country"?

     

    Do you define a Black country as one where the majority of the population is Black?
    Do you define a Black country as one where Black people rule the nation, whether we're a minority or majority?

    Or must we be both the majority AND in power?

     

    Correct, never say never. I don't know the future, the probability is low but probability has to be zero to equal impossibility.

     

    I respect populace when i define populace under any government. The Republic of South Africa isn't governed by Black people , it is governed at the moment by a mix of its white populace and a minority of blacks. The USA , in the future if the same population percentages exist then as today, if ruled by its black minority populace is not a black country, in my view. 

    Why? at the end of the day and this is human history, no matter the time or place. Sooner or later the majority rules. The majority doesn't have to rule all the time, and the majority can be disempowered for a very long time by a minority, but eventually the majority does rule. Easy historical examples, the graeco bactrian kingdom/korea under the chrysanthemum throne/Kemet commonly called Egypt under a long line of non-nilotics from ayysria and the macedonians to now in parts. That is the genius of Temujin. He comprehended that even though the mongols military might allowed them to dominate many others, sooner or later, those others in parts will takeover, they will be changed because of mongol influence, but they will take over. Eastern Europe to Korea were influenced by the mongols but eventually... If you want a european example, the napoleonic empire. All of europe except Britain and Russia were part of napoleons empire and were changed because of it, but eventually... So, Germany was german not french under the napoleon empire, china was chinese not mongolian under the mongol empire, south africa under the dutch+british was black <mix of zulus/xhosa+others> not white. 

     

    If native Americans were to rule the USA, at the moment, it is still a white country. Not white ancestrally, or indigenously, but in terms of the people who live at the moment.

     

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    If it were to open up under the rules and restrictions of a lot of "Black countries" that exist in the world right now, the government might actually shut it down.

    They'd be trying to get Troy to promote a certain religion or political affiliation in line with whatever government he's operating under.

     

    possible, but not inevitable. The question is, to pick the black country whose government will favor or support. And this is where life comes in. One can not know the future. So you gamble. You take precautions, you plan. Need of certainty is the enemy to the disempowered. If you want certainty be empowered, but of course, the disempowered isn't thus risk or gambles. If it doesn't work out, unlike all plans from High John, then try again. 

     

  2. @Troy and your comment explains my point to @Pioneer1 the internal multiracial aspect of the black community in the usa, elsewhere or throughout all humanity isn't a problem if it is accepted for what it is. Some black people will oppose what Troy suggested, some will support. So in a Black comic book festival all views, including comic books where black characters have an unapologetically negative relationship to whites. 

    Thank you Troy for submitting your thoughts which give my point great support. 

     

    Yes, that is a great writing question, what is she saying to hulk. 

  3. @Chevdove glad to help

     

    and yes, remember, most black people in the usa in the 1800s had a more pure view of whites than black people in the usa after the year 2000.  White women or white jews or white latinos or white asians weren't embraced in the black community like today, as non white male christian european descended folk.

     

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  4. @Pioneer1 Well, this is where the details is key. You speak of control  or ownership, but the question is, what is a website. At its core, it is a set of data on a machine that has access to other machines which allow people using other machines to interface it. 

    What is the primary issue to the control you seek? 

    Even if a black person owns land and places their servers on said land and has satellites around earth to provide connection to their servers. Black people themselves live all over the planet and unless black people will own the land everywhere, no one black person or group of black people can control access to the black owned website first mentioned. 

    This is why the CHina/USA internet battle has happened. The chinese constitution says in china the chinese governments rule is law, not international organizations or other governments. So in china, the chinese government demands control so that the chinese government can rule things. In the internet's case this is why china has a grand internal internet in its country that they connect to the outside internets. BEcause of the structure, the rules which some call protocols of the internet, this is not dysfunctional. BUT, to ownership, this is why the usa has such problems with china. Most governments ceded their relationship to the internet to the usa, some like the european union are trying to reclaim it, ala the facebook ruling recently. But the point is, you can only control in your own bounds. If you want to reach the world, deals have to be made. ala Tiktok a privately owned firm in china not straight from the chinese government, using servers in the usa.

     

    Now to be helpful... ala my point elsewhere. Let's take AALBC. It is black owned but it is in the USA. 

    To do what you want, the first question has to be answered is, do you want AALBC in the USA?

    Why move AALBC outside the USA? The USA is either a white country or a multiracial country but the USA isn't and will never be a  black country, sequentially, USA law, is not naturally geared to black people and that includes how websites are treated. 

    So, if AALBC stays in the USA, AALBC will eventually be influenced by factors beyond black people's control. 

    But if AALBC leaves the USA , into a black country , meaning government, then at the least black people can control the life of the website completely, which is what you stated you wanted for any black websites. 

    Now financially, it is cheaper for AALBC to remain in the USA and not move. Comprehend, many countries don't have a strong satellite network and have many blockades on their networks by more powerful countries. And many black people live in countries that at the least are not black or specifically, not controlled by the black people in them, and control matters in these intergovernmental affairs. 

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    I know you don't own AALBC, @Troy does, but 

    Pioneer , do you want AALBC to remain in the USA or be under a black government? 

    Either answer will still demand some things the same.. 

    AALBC will need to own the land its servers are on. 

    AALBC will need to own the energy systems for the servers. 

    AALBC will need to have its own satellite network. 

    Said three things to get what you stated will be needed no matter where AALBC goes in the future. 

    all three are expensive. 

    But there is a beginning. And comprehend, even achieving this doesn't mean all black people in humanity have to become members and use as a primary online existence  the "new aalbc".  A Black website being more black owned doesn't mean any body black online must utilize it more. Getting more engagement is the responsibility of AALBC or the members in AALBC, not the black people who are members of white owned websites. 

  5. @Pioneer1

    great point and I literally meant black. Meaning what? Black culture for me is global. It has what I call tribes based on language or geography or culture or any racial category or sub category: DOS/Rastafarian/Nigerian/Baptist/Siddi . In NYC you learn to see Black as a phenotypical group, based on how one perceives the range of appearance, but all else is open game. In NYC you have Black lgbtq+/Nation of Islam/Black Democrats/Black Republics/Rastafarians/Black Trinidadians/Black South Africans/DOSers/ et cetera. Their culture /history/heritage/geography/language isn't the same, but in my mind all of said groups plus more are under the roof Black, so to speak. 

    I don't have a problem with the multiraciality in the black community.  but I have two main problems between the tribes in the black community, which like the white, is a global community.

    1)  the tribes preaching or proselytizing to each other or the larger group. In this very forum, how many comments are I am right while you are wrong instead of, how can I suggest an idea to improve what your doing, even if I don't concur to it. 

    2) the lack of focus on efficiency in black tribes when it comes to growth. Instead of complaining about what black people not in your tribe or doing, what are you doing to make your tribe better? 

    I am not nor do I concur to the complete view of rastafarians or black baptists or black republicans or black democrats BUT those groups always complain about what other black people are not doing, ad rarely judge their tribe functionally. How many rastafarians know where Rastafarians live in ethiopia today, I do? How many rastafarians who have millions spend most of their money in the usa with real estate deals or living in the usa giving the usa their tex money and have no financial investment in africa, but then talk about rastafarianism? How many Black baptist complain about so few interested in their place of worship but don't say how their place of worship is closed most of the week. How it is open for the black rich to come and hob nob on sunday for? I am not christian but didn't jesus speak about the universality in humanity, then why can't Black churches make their churches active to the multiracial needs of the black community ? why don't black churches open up their churches to black muslims, nation of islam or other? why don't they all regale black elected officials to set them up for non profit situations, like food pantry and delivery for homeless? Black republicans continuosuly complain that the majority of black voters or the majority of black people are mentally wrong in some way but I can't recall a black republican as an elected officials with a set of policies that aided black people in their municipality, gave favor. Black democrats continuously complain that black people don't vote enough or black voters need to be respected by the larger democratic party but  I can't recall a black democrat as an elected official returning black votes with policy to help black people, to give favors to black people. Black elephants or Black donkeys when elected provide no pro- black laws or policy but then complain that black people aren't engaged or overjoyed as if black people in the usa don't have the right to want government to work for them, damn anybody else, and the funny thing is white people are used to that and their elected officials, donkey or elephant are trying to sell them the idea that it is good to not be favored, which is silly. So... all black tribes can improve, I just wish their narratives or prose focused on how they can improve , and stop all of this, I am right, everybody agree with me ... negativity.

     

    To comics, a Black comic book festival in my eyes needs to reflect the inner multiraciality of the black community.  I am not a financially wealthy person. if I was a billionaire I would use my money to do something . But I don't have money to do so. But all black people can demand all tribes in the village do better while embracing the Black inner multiraciality. 

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  6. @Troyand i want to add, being the primary search engine in the usa and for most of the online community is important. I comprehend data acquisition is valuable in various ways but in defense of tiktok, I think they want to be the big website and that means quality. remember, tiktok is the first non usa based website to have such a strong presence in the usa, I think that is underrated, the internet in the future will be global, and that is something no one has experienced before, the internet before tiktok was dominated by usa firms across the board, that age is ended , the future will have unexpected scenarios 

     

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  7. @Troy right, but between the people who thought the internet would become the great individual liberty place side the firms who through the structure of the usa based internet easily took over operations, it was bound to happen.

     

    I hope so to , for me this website is a rare black owned example online. And I know I have made this speech before but so many black people online talk about black empowerment everywhere else in humanity except online. Why is most black people online who daily rant to what they feel black people need to do to positively support black like: all black people voting, all black people buy from a black shop, all black people marry black, don't seem willing to join a black owned website online and make that the primary location of their activities? 

    That is my only true online peeve. Black people online complain about some negativity among black people and yet, said black people are unwilling to join a black owned website and make it a major online destination. 

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    MY THOUGHTS

     

    0:20
    Zenobia :) your shirt
    4:44
    People forget that in the 1970s in the north east, some schools had the last of governmentally funded activities. 
    7:27 
    And the USA has continually asked Cuba to let them take Assata Shakur from in Cuba. And Assata Shakur still has a warrant for her. 
    8:29 
    yes, Billy Holiday 
    10:18 
    Tupac is a real life example of a child growing up in an environment like :Night Catches Us
    Black kids growing up in Black Panther homes in Black communities in the 1970s is a huge dichotomy. The Black Panthers had great successes but were hammered all the time by white organizations , governmentally or private. In the 1970s at their first phases end, the black community in the majority is being abused and attacked , from drugs being put in black communities bu law enforcement agencies which are proxies for white communal wealth. All this creates a complex environment. 
     16:12 
    nice musical point on the changes of Tupac's music
    18:37 
    frustration not anger
    20:45 
    stress created the bald headedness, yes , artist knows
    23:36
    Tupac/Biggie many black entertainers have complex lives. 
    25:15 
    Did they ever find out who killed Tupac? 
    27:13 
    Selena was pregnant, I didn't know that. 
    28:25 
    Interesting that Tupac's family did trust someone who had a relatively negative relationship or distant relationship with Tupac. 
    30:39
    Nike, I thought about what you said about the Aretha Franklin biopic.
     

     

  9. if you are in philadelphia, enjoy the ECBACC

     

    any aalbc members, it is free, share a photo if you can 

     


    The East Coast Black of Comics Convention 2023
    Saturday May 20th, 2023 / 11AM - 7PM
    TEMPLE UNIVERSITY STUDENT FACULTY CENTER
    3340 N. Broad St. Phila., PA 19140
    For Comics Book Workshops, AfriCoz Cosplay Contest,
    Panels, Screenings, and More!
    Come help us celebrate positive Black images in comic books
    and the Science-Fiction Entertainment Industry!
    FREE ADMISSION!
    OPEN FOR ALL!

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  10. well @Chevdove You say two things. 

    Between Douglass side Garrison  is one thing. Between Garrison and the "anti slavery movement" is another. 

    I will start with Douglass and Garrison. 

    What separated the two , philosophically?

    Douglass opposed slavery but he loved the USA, he was a firm federalist. Douglass was a huge supporter of involvement in government in the usa, for he thought the system of government in the usa is of a quality that it can improve itself to the betterment of all humanity. Sequentially, Douglass accepted the idea of gradualism. 

    Garrison opposed slavery but he though the government of the usa, the federal government was purely dysfunctional. What do I mean by purely dysfunctional? Garrison's problem was deeper than elected officials, he felt advocacy to issues like abolistion or women's rights was impossible through government. To Garrison government didn't need time to change, and could change at any moment. 

    That is the key to Douglass friction side Garrison. 

     

    Garrison to the anti slavery moment is where the persecution to him comes from. 

    Yes Garrison was anti slavery, or abolition. 

    But, he opposed participation in the usa government or more importantly, the idea that the usa government is a positive institution. to him the usa federal government was a sham, and that is probably a nice word. So, all the anti slavery or abolition folks who wanted laws to change or legal systems to be molded despised him. 

    He opposed partiality. He wanted women, all women,  to have the full right to vote at the same time as all blacks. Again, the anti slavery or abolition folks who accepted the rights of black men to vote but not of women of any race to vote to him was a betrayal of supposed support for anti slavery. so those who accepted slavery in the confederate states or accepted inequality in rights opposed him.

    And he also was anti-jewish, he thought jews, any phenotype, are a people whose actions led and lead to their own downfall throughout history. And as the white jewish community  became a huge financier of many non white male movements in the usa and added to their financing a pro jewish stance in organizations. 

    so all together he had many detractors in movements during his life and even moreso after his life. 

     

    Look at the black community in the year 2023. Black anti government folk, Black anti incrementalist, Black anti jewish folk are each minorities in the black community in the USA.  But they exists. In defense of you, don't be confused, the truth is, the USA is a country of individualism. The main problem with individualism is by default it is anti group or collective. The best thing for Individualism is for individuals to relinquish group or collective affiliations. But in the usa, a government started by groups against groups, It can be argued that individualism is naturally dysfunctional in the usa. and that is part of what garrison meant. The USA government design can be argued is pro slavery by design. I am not suggesting I am supporting this idea fully but it has merit. 

     

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