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@ProfD  I quote you religion forbids violence by way of its commandments So the people killed or harmed in the crusades , I believe four of them occurred, <soldiers/civilians/whomever>was by accident?

If black leaders of the christian faith in the usa were like the pope during the crusades in europe or the protestant preachers during the reformation in europe or the catholic preachers during the counter- reformation in europe , or nat turner in the usa who supposedly had an epiphany by the christian god... well .

fair enough to whites, but my original question was to black folk about the quality of black leadership and black leadership has always been in existence, and with choices to make,  even when whites had pure shackles on most black peoples neck, with all of white peoples influence or training. 

I apologize if I said all black people , but if I said all <I didn't look at my prior message> I apologize again. I meant to say, Obama didn't reflect the wants desires or needs of a majority, overwhelming majority of black people in the usa or larger humanity, but being the leader of a minority group in the black community still makes you a leader. And Obama had choices, free for him to make, the myth is that all his actions were a predetermined algorithm, that is not true.  As Obama said to a white man, I paraphrase, he is not the president of black people but all people. And, for historical fairness, all Obama did was prescribe to the position of Frederick Douglass, ala Our Composite Nation speech , it is below, read it if you want proof, The way Obama led clearly makes him a disciple of Douglass. I could be wrong but I think Obama had a bust of douglass in his office. Which is telling.   

@ProfD the only problem I have to the first part of your reply, is I mentioned black leadership and the first part of your reply  focuses on MLK jr. 

To be blunt, the black preachers in the past, collectively was the black leader, not one. Adam Clayton powell jr was a pastor. The college of pastors succeeded plus failed in their guidance. They succeeded because the black community in the usa today is what they wanted.  Said pastors wanted a black community in the usa non violent, integrated,  fiscal capitalist, and the black community in the usa is that. The problem is too many black people wanted the pastors goals but thought you could then get an organized black community like the germans under the nazi's and to be blunt, you can't get a highly organized community like the nazi's absent violence with integration. You can't. The reason isn't impossibility but functionality. Integration by default means you invite manipulations that go against the group, by default ... yes, MLK jr is lauded but he wasn't alone. The historical fact is black christian preachermen were the majority of black leaders from the end of the war between the states to the 1970s. And the reality is the guidance succeeded plus failed. It failed in that what most black people wanted the leadership didn't and whenever a leadership goes against the majority of the people it is supposed to be leading, you get problems, always. Look at the two white parties in the USA. White people in rural usa didn't want integration, they didn't want immigrants to become citizens or to share resources. But elephant and the donkey , leaders of the white community did it. And sequentially problems.  I said leadership, not one leader. Leadership. 

To your second part, I want to only add one thing. The murder spree extended to the world. I don't know how many leaders the USA government plus other governments murdered throughout humanity during the 1950s-1960s-early 1970s, but I am certain they murdered the 1960s functionally. You say the black community is devoid of leadership today and I oppose that view. but the goal of the white power sysyem was to devoid all communities, including white ones of leadership that wasn't... acceptable by their plans. . When you look at Latin America, where in many countries many people still can't read, or write, my point is, the job on our leadership was part of a larger systemic thing that I think needs to be said. And to end, the black community in the usa has leadership. Obama is a black leader, the problem is, his goals or path do not reflect the majority of black people in the usa's, dreams or desires. 

@Pioneer1 I am sure they could had, I am sure of that. The problem is, black leadership didn't want that. this goes back to Frederick douglass. again, I think black people make too light of our own history in this country or its predecessors. The black church had greater sway over the black community in the late 1800s more than any black organization since, they could had suggested any path. Remember the black community in the usa in the late 1800s was nearly 100% christian. Nearly 100% DOS. the path the Black Chruch chose is the historical problem. The current problem is more complex, but the complex problem of today arrived from the past. 

Well listen, be fair to the black community. When the million man march happened, the black men came, to be guided, not lectured to, not bemoaned , but guided. did the tons of black leaders get on the podium and guide? no, so as I said to profd, people in the usa, all phenotypes, have this dysfunctional logic where a group of people should not act like the people in their leadership are failing. The black leaders in washington dc during the million man march told a million black men to care only for their individual selves, and so they did, even though they were looking for something else. 

ahh the nation of islam wasn't pan black though. Again, you have to assess leaders weaknesses. Malcolm , the son of a garveyite , was about the entire village, but the nation of islam. They like the black church wanted converts to their religion, and the black panthers for self defense, wanted to bear arms, use arms and the black church was against that during that time or now. I paraphrase al sharpton when asked about his movement in NYC:  when you start these things there are many people who want to do various things, but I wanted to have a christian, non violent movement.  

Do you comprehend pioneer? The black panthers were a minority movement in the community. White media loved showing them but they were never a majority movement. It is like hippies in he white community. Movies and media made white hippies like they were taking over the white community, they were always a minority in the white community in the usa. so... their real power was far less. 

2:30 it's funny how being a single parent like any adult comes in all forms. Zenobia, the question is do you think using an  uncommon form of single parenting is unwarranted or just not your artistic cup of tea?

4:34 Claudine is old enough to be before women had the 2023 levels of freedom from male domination , yes I am a man. But Nike, women globally are still commonly in Claudine's situation. It's funny how in the usa, the rules in the usa are nonchalantly applied to the global humanity, when you said something similar too,  this was when women couldn't have a bank account.

7:20 The question is, did the kids too easily or quickly accept James Earl Jones new parental figure? Nike or Zenobia. 

10:30 haha! Too many Black women have heard a black man or black men say publicly, or in the black man cave, women are too much:) in the usa.  

13:52 did the story before the movie, when Claudine met the new interest, did she trick him or not tell him about the kids? 

23:22 great scenes,  with the young daughter and James Earl Jones shock at what he is getting into.

30:35 Good question Zenobia, did the characterizations in Claudine give examples to how certain negative behaviors develop from child to adult. 

32:14 yes, Pauline wasn't in the category of  "Whitey Bad" films.  The funny thing about Shaft and Foxy Brown is how they were written by whites. Foxy Brown was written by Jack Hill. Shaft was written by Ernest Tidyman. As a writer my biggest issue with many films in the 1970s that had nearly all black cast or definitely all black major cast, are the writers of the stories are white , sequentially, the viewpoints or narratives are from whites interpreting black people, or referring to their black connections.

36:02 Great point, Sweetback plus other films in the 1970s involving black musicians or actors, is  why in the late 1970s <star wars> + 80s <back to the future , die hard, et cetera> films with mostly white thespians put such a huge emphasis on soundtracks, that is one of the elements that the 1970s films in the USA with majority  black thespians  brought into the complete USA film industry.

Closing thoughts: what are my thoughts to welfare or single parenting relevancy.
To relevancy, you have to break issues up. 
First welfare itself + single parenting. 
Where do I begin. Claudine is in Harlem, a city that is legally a district of a borough in a city. Remember, each district in New York City has more people in it that the average city in the USA. Think on that, cities in the USA with a third the populace of harlem have full representation or powers over their geography while harlem has none. Why does this matter? Welfare is a leg up system, like the projects also a NYC concept spread throughout the USA, that can be easily insufficient but on existence always acceptable or rejectable. To rephrase, people can always say a person shouldn't be on welfare, using the taxpayers money, or they can say it is a public good to aid a person who needs financial assistance, but the quality of assistance the person gets tends to be insufficient, regardless of people's opinion of it. The best example is another film, also based in NYC. The film is Sabrina. Sabrina's father and Roop are similar men. The maids of the lauraughby household are no different than Claudine. But, Roop + Claudine are not getting a wage anywhere near what the workers in the Laraughby household are getting. So Claudine + Roop need welfare, they need assistance to equal what the servants in Sabrina are getting doing the same work. But the government of Harlem , wait it doesn't exist. NYC's government which doesn't cater to the whole city doesn't provide a welfare system or a labor law adequate.  As for single parenting, the reality is Black people have been single parents or being raised absent parents in far harder circumstances. I argue that black people in the usa today complain more  about other black people in difficult scenarios than warranted. It was worse in the past in the USA. But that leads to the next point. 
The next point is perception, cause perception in the Black community in the usa is rarely functional. Welfare or single parenting is a prime example. Black individuals who will make speeches, give rants on Black people using welfare or being a single parent, will be silent amidst the presence of a non black person on welfare or being a single parent. Which means what? the problem most black people have isn't welfare or single parenting cause they would rant at non black instances the way they rant at black instances. The problem is , they want zero percent black people on welfare or zero percent black people as a single parent. Many a non black is a single parent in NYC today, many. But you never hear in the news from white asians, white latinos, white muslims avbout their own  people still on welfare being lazy, or their own women need to close their legs. And not because it isn't happening, it is because they give their own the freedom to be that way without condemnation. Even though more white people are on welfare in the usa than black people, some black people want black people to have no one on welfare, while white people say that is the governments role to help their own. Even though more single mothers are non black in the usa than black single mothers, some black people want no black woman to be a single parent, while non blacks go on begging sprees for their own single mothers who are doing the same job like Claudine. 
I will end this part with a little truth that sometimes black people don't include in comprehending how we got here. In the late 1900s a number of movements, like the club women in the usa, supported the idea of black improvement regardless, meaning even though the scenario is unfair or unjust or negative to black people or a black person they are obliged to overcome all of that, regardless. And that culture back then has become today a heritage many black people adhere to. A false one. A government is meant to govern. But a government should not be treated as something to be proud of or a member of absent an ability to be in your favor, and sadly, that concept is what many black leaders accepted in the past. The idea isn't born from stupidity, it is born from a question black people were forced to ask themselves when the war between the states ended. If I am supposed to love this place, the USA, instead of leave it, and  how can I love it, when my people or community or self is mistreated yearly, monthly, daily. The answer is simple. You have to love and not leave it, regardless. That is the source of the absolutism in the black community in the usa. Now a heritage that many black people adhere to in the usa, in my view, a dysfunctional heritage but nothing is completely bad. I will speak of its merits another time:) 
I want to end with one of the most important points in the film. 
Fiscally poor people don't have easy relationships because they are fiscally poor. And yes, Claudine has six kids, begs for welfare even though she works for a living, Roop is a garbage man who has to pay for kids not Claudine's he isn't as socially connected to and barely has any money to help Claudine with her kids. Yes, and you know what, they do love each other and they can smile and walk down that street in northern Harlem:) with all those kids, still broke but loving. 
As a note, Claudine was a rare film in the 1970s organized by a black production company. Third world cinema of Ozzie Davis. And that is the point. 

@Pioneer1 I have two parts to my reply.

the first part is an assumption but I think a fair one. It isn't important to read cause you know the history. And the assumption while it may be insulting, I merely state bluntly. 

the second is a question.this is the part that for me has true value. 

FIRST PART

when I combine my point or your reply, I come to a simple position. 

Gardless of the poor choices of the black dos community in the usa or its white european imperial predecessor in the past, gardless of the poor leadership of black leaders in the black dos community in the usa or its european imperial predecessor  in the past, gardless of the quality of internal crime in non black communities whether more or less than the black community collectively or a segment of the black community in the usa today, you want black on black crime in the black community or a part like the Black DOS in the USA today to be zero. 

The Black DOS community is one of many Black communities in humanity. The Black DOS community has a set of historical phases: initial circa 1500s<black people from throughout all africa + within the indigenous american populace  are enslaved initially, ripped from their homes by whites, sometimes with black assistance, but always led by a white agenda> , complete enslavement, circa 1500s to circa 1865<blacks are still ripped like in the initial phase but most blacks, circa 90%, are born, raised,lived,and died, enslaved to whites in their entire life cycle>, reformation era, circa 1865 to circa 1965<black people are deemed by whites, not through violence, as citizens of the usa , and from the 13th amendment circa 1865 to the civil rights act circa 1965 black people spend one hundred years mostly nonviolent, mostly integrating to non blacks in the usa, gaining more legal rights slowly, while white violence becomes more complex through the usa states, where some states white populaces lessen violence towards blacks while most states white populace grow violence towards blacks>, integration era, circa 1965 to 2023 and till another major moment <Black people in the USA develop a growing one percent who are financially/governmentally integrated to whites in the usa, while the larger black community is functionally leaderless and absent any collective plan, forcing it to be a haven of hyper individualism, started by white violence circa 1965 which murdered countless numbers of black people who were willing to live their lives for collective solutions in the black community, honestly>

So three of said temporal phases: initial/complete enslavement/reformation era, by white historians, not Rich, are publicly stated as times of untold levels of white violence against black people. To restate in said three temporal phases of the Black DOS community, white violence to blacks was not a percentage of black violence to blacks but multiples of black violence to blacks. Even the black curator for the African American Museum in Washington D.C. , a member of that black one percent, that nonviolent stewards, that ardent integrationists, admitted that white hangings/burnings/maulings/drownings/simialrs to blacks people has an untold number. The proof is the article I shared above, for I am certain a black man hurt another black man in lowndes county Pioneer1, but I am also certain both of them are sick and lost a clan member through the sickness the entire black community in lowndes live in by the white community. 

So you are correct, in the integration era, where white violence is collectively lessened , black on black violence still occurs, freely absent a white slavemaster. And regardless of whether other communities have greater internal violence, which NYC current events can prove, What matters is Black on Black violence still exists and thus your goal is for it to be zero incidents. You may say I am wrong to assume. But considering history or other communities in modernity, that has to be the goal you feel need to be reached to not have a problem with black on black violence, which I admit I don't. In my view, the black community in the usa uses less violence toward its own than any other community except the native american which is a special case.  I can say for certain that white asians/white jews have far more internal violence toward their own than blacks and definitely black DOSers in NYC.

SECOND PART

You say that the black community in the usa isn't nonviolent, so it is violent. And you imply, though i can be wrong,  that the violence internally in the black community in the usa is at the least equal to any other group, regardless of population size or scale or circumstance. But the question is, why has black leadership not guided this violence? If the Black community in the usa is so violent then the black leadership in the usa has not guided or made more functional the violence of the black community in the usa to the benefit of the black community in the usa. My question, why is that? 

MY COMMENT

The black people of  Lowndes county not Black Alabamians. The USA's media, white or black or other , love's grandiosing every single positive thing don't they. One county in Alabama is getting a little help from the Biden Administration for environmental needs and that is deemed justice. I love how in the usa, dead people can gain justice for the crimes applied to them by whites. A truly historic day will be when most Black people in the USA or one of its states actually gain something positive. From MArijuana in NYC to Alabama Septic systems, a few Black people are getting and these things are being touted by whites or blacks like the gateway t the spiritworld is opening up, and we can see  the ancestors dancing... I am happy for the Black people of Lowndes county. but I continue to ponder a simple question. Has the choice by Black people to be nonviolent or integrated to whites in the usa been worth it for the Black DOS populace? I know it has been worth it for a Black 10% but for the majority of the village, has it been worth it? 

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Black Alabamians endured poor sewage for decades. Now they may see justice.
Story by Brady Dennis • Yesterday 1:14 PM

Officials in Alabama discriminated against Black residents in a rural county by denying them access to adequate sanitation systems, imposing burdensome fines and liens, and ignoring the serious health risks plaguing the community, according to a landmark environmental justice agreement announced Thursday by the Biden administration.
“Today starts a new chapter for Black residents of Lowndes County, Ala., who have endured health dangers, indignities and racial injustice for far too long,” Kristen Clarke, an assistant attorney general at the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division, said in announcing the agreement with local health officials and the Alabama Department of Public Health.

Monday’s agreement comes 18 months after the federal government launched an investigation into the situation in Lowndes — and after years of complaints from civic activists about sewage backups caused by failing septic tanks and exacerbated by climate change, including increased flooding.

“Overall, it’s a great day,” Catherine Coleman Flowers, who founded the Center for Rural Enterprise and Environmental Justice and has long worked to improve the sanitation problem in Lowndes, said in an interview Thursday. “It’s one step. And Lowndes County is just one of the many counties across the United States that is grappling with this particular issue. … It’s a first step. But it’s historic.”

Investigators from the Justice Department and the Department of Health and Human Services found that ADPH’s enforcement of sanitation laws “threatened residents of Lowndes County with criminal penalties and even potential property loss for sanitation conditions they did not have the capacity to alleviate.”

Their investigation also found that officials engaged in a “consistent pattern” of inaction and neglect concerning the health risks associated with raw sewage that permeated the soil and lingered near numerous homes. Alabama health officials were aware of the “disproportionate burden and impact” the problems imposed on Lowndes residents, investigators said, but they “failed to take meaningful actions to remedy these conditions.”

In a statement Thursday afternoon, ADPH underscored that it cooperated with the federal investigation and “maintains that it has never conducted its on-site sewage or infectious diseases and outbreaks programs in a discriminatory manner.”

“ADPH is pleased to have been able to reach this agreement, and looks forward to its implementation to benefit residents of Lowndes County,” the agency wrote.

For now, the central problem that led to the federal probe remain.

“In this community, literally, kids can’t go play outside. … You can’t step outside without seeing and smelling what is happening, in a way that affluent, White communities do not face,” Melanie Fontes Rainer, director of HHS’s Office for Civil Rights, said in an interview Thursday. “The fact this has gone on so long without action is significant.”

A litany of actions could now be on the way for the nearly 10,000 residents in Lowndes, a sparsely populated county located between Selma and Montgomery, where many people live in unincorporated areas that are not connected to municipal sanitation systems.

Nearly three-quarters of residents are Black, according to the latest census, and large numbers lack access to even the most basic municipal sewer systems — a consequence of years of underinvestment in infrastructure in poor and minority communities, environmental advocates said.

On rainy days, septic systems that residents rely on to treat waste often fail to drain properly into the region’s heavy clay soil. Raw sewage bubbles up into yards and homes. Federal officials said the high cost of purchasing septic tanks has led some residents to instead rely upon inadequate and stopgap measures, including using crudely constructed pipes or ditches to redirect wastewater away from their homes.

Some residents have been found to have hookworm, an intestinal parasite once thought to be largely eradicated in the South that hatches in moist soil and latches onto barefooted humans.

Federal officials said they hope Thursday’s voluntary agreement will begin to alter that reality in Lowndes.

In announcing the agreement, investigators said ADPH “fully cooperated” with the federal inquiry, and that the Justice Department and HHS agreed to suspend their ongoing investigation if Alabama officials follow through on a series of promised actions. Those include:

Suspending the enforcement of sanitation laws that result in criminal charges, fines, jail time and potential property loss for Lowndes residents who lack the means to purchase functioning septic systems.
Undertaking a “comprehensive assessment” of the septic and wastewater needs for residents in Lowndes, and outlining a “meaningful path” to improve access to adequate systems.
Working with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to assess health risks to different populations from exposure to raw sewage, and working with the CDC to adopt any public health recommendations.
Developing a public health awareness campaign using radio, print ads, fliers, mailers and door-to-door outreach, in an effort to “ensure residents receive critical health and safety information.”
Creating a “sustainable and equitable” plan within one year to improve public health and infrastructure in Lowndes County. The focus will be on improving access to adequate sanitation systems and alleviating health risks that come with exposure to raw sewage.
Transparency and collaboration with the local community. The agreement compels ADPH to “consistently engage with community residents, local government officials, experts in wastewater, infrastructure, soil and engineering, and environmental and public health experts and advocates” — and to inform the community at least quarterly on what progress is being made.
The effort to create a fairer and less toxic system for residents in Lowndes is in line with President Biden’s broader push to right long-standing environmental injustices around the country, which disproportionally fall upon low-income and minority communities.

Biden has ordered that all federal agencies take environmental justice into account in their decision-making, and he established a White House advisory council on the issue made up of veteran activists and experts. The administration also has said that it plans to ensure that 40 percent of new federal investments in clean energy and other climate-related initiatives go to communities that historically have been marginalized and overburdened by pollution.

Earlier this year, the administration began to roll out the first $100 million in environmental justice grants made possible by last year’s Inflation Reduction Act. The grants, which will be overseen by a new office of environmental justice and external civil rights at the Environmental Protection Agency, are among the first of an anticipated $3 billion in block grants that Congress created in August as part of Biden’s landmark climate bill.

“Unacceptable,” was how EPA Administrator Michael Regan described the situation in Lowndes after a visit last year, calling access to safe drinking water and sewer systems a basic right.

In a speech the following day, Regan said the struggles in Lowndes show “injustices that folks have been living with for decades — pipes protruding from the side of their homes, spilling waste into the same places where their children play.”

“The good people of Lowndes County show us that the fight for civil rights is inseparable from the fight for environmental justice, for health justice, for racial justice, for economic justice,” Regan added. “We cannot be for one without the other.”

Fontes Rainer said she believes Thursday’s agreement is a tangible step toward long-overdue justice for residents in Lowndes, but that it won’t be the last place where historic wrongs must be reversed.

“I hope that this agreement will serve as a warning sign and a notification to communities everywhere that this is not acceptable,” she said.

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Faefarm is coming out, and I like the game for one reason above all others. It allows for local multiplay, not a common trait among video games. 

@Chevdove to be fair it is about black singing groups from late 1950s to mid 1970s. After you see it I will love to know your thoughts.

My extended thoughts

https://aalbc.com/tc/profile/6477-richardmurray/?status=2323&type=status

The six-week program empowers, develops, and uplifts multicultural business owners culminating in a pitch competition on May 4th in Harlem

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/m-t-bank-launched-harlem-173700841.html

In many of my stories I have objects or items, that I draw, but until this year, I never made a model to provide a stronger sense. But this year I have found the joy of these models. 

If you want to see it, check out the following post.

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@Pioneer1 I see your view. A black man in 2023 viewing a white woman with lust is a sign of positive thinking to whites and sequentially said black man doesn't think negatively towards whites. I think your definition of a positive view is very inclusive while your definition of a negative view is totalitarian. Fair enough, I differ in view point. 

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@Troy harlem nyc, after the 1970s.  

The link should work now. That link is to my public skydrive so it should be available . 

Please try it out for me, and tell me if the following works. It is public and viewable, but not editable. 

https://1drv.ms/b/s!ArspJ5yABJDqg8EsiSlQIdYn0kDlcA?e=LnBJgs

Or, maybe NYC will not. NYC is a minor mirror to the USA, historically or modernly.NYC like the USA can exist for a long time with a fiscal wealthy aided by an army. No city in the usa has more billionaires and no city has a law enforcement agency larger than the NYPD. But, the illusions of the USA, that statue of liberty, they are dying and that is good cause everything they alluded to was never true. When I look at NYC historically, even for whites, it was never this city of opportunity, this city of upward mobility. This city of middle class power. all lies. Lies that rich people said for their ego or their dysfunctional philosophies. Or less the poor said for they didn't want to look at their life  honestly. NYC's government, like the USA government, is deadlocked in the legacy of lies that are losing out to truth. The truth of the usa has always been and will always be negative, cruel, vicious. The minority of good stories mounted as common are losing their vitality. 

@ProfD  To your first question, the NYPD doesn't exist to protect or serve, it exist to financially ingratiate itself. The NYPD needed statistics to warrant more money, law enforcers put those in jail to make the numbers. The NYPD needed to make sure each race in the NYC had a member pro cop, it opened its ranks. All of this is to make money. I will be simple, if you want a stronger communal environment, law enforcement isn't the answer. To your second question, people in NYC love to have their cake and eat it to. The examples are many where people in NYC publicly proclaim a position to others that they themselves don't apply if they are in the same situation as others. 

@Delano fair enough, I can only say, like the USA, NYC could use someone to treat its partitions separately. But that goes into the problem. PEople, many people, in the usa want a universal application. How I lived is how everybody lived or how I live is how everybody has to live and there lies the problem . Maybe other there is different. 

... over a week ago, I was in a location where Automated Teller Machines exist and a Black woman, I think Descended Of Enslaved, suggested I needed to be careful. She continued while I merely looked and said, she was in said ATM locale earlier and homeless people were in the place. She felt fear and called law enforcement. I said nothing to her, and just left. But I pondered a few questions.

Did said homeless people attack her? 

Did said Homeless people approach her? 

Did said homeless people speak to her? 

She defined her experience. She didn't say she was harmed or approached in any way. She said, using my word choice, she came into the locale, saw homeless people, felt threatened by their presence and called law enforcement.  She suggested I be safe but safe from what. The presence of homeless people does not make me feel worried or threatened or scared. But the larger question is, how many Black people are like said black woman. I bet millions, and definitely not an insignificant amount. But the larger question isn't most important. The most important is how much has unfounded Black fear of Black people led to aiding law enforcement. I will explain. The NYPD select how they operate. They do it based on biases, negative or positive. Sequentially, when Black people call law enforcement on Black people they feel , not are actively, threatened by , it is fuel for the NYPD's biases. I know of Black people raised at the same time as me les than 5 blocks from my home who said the Black community was dangerous in our community. A danger I never felt one day , not one day, and I walked to and from school nearly my entire school life, north to south or west to east,  in my community. I was fortunate to not have to leave my community to go to school.  My point, Black people lie about our communities condition to ourselves. We take our dislikes at Black people who are poor, loud, angry, hustling and turn that into crimes. 

I conclude using the following. If you are black plus live in a black community in a city anywhere plus you feel threatened aside other black people who you fear because of the way they wear their clothes or they speak or they live then go into your home, lock the door, and never go out. 

Half of the people in New York City don't have the ability to afford basic needs. The proof is stated in more detail with supporting evidence at the following link
https://aalbc.com/tc/profile/6477-richardmurray/?status=2319&type=status

NYPD

->greatest crime is theft, why look above

https://aalbc.com/tc/profile/6477-richardmurray/?status=2103&type=status

-> The NYPD's statistics are gathered based on their actions which are publicly known to be negatively biased towards blacks while positively biased towards whites

https://aalbc.com/tc/profile/6477-richardmurray/?status=2162&type=status

-> Riker's is a detention cell, sequentially, the people in it are not confirmed to have committed a crime but are confirmed to have been judged by the New York Police Department to warrant detention, but the NYPD is negatively biased towards blacks

https://aalbc.com/tc/profile/6477-richardmurray/?status=2091&type=status

-> The NYPD admitted black crimes went up 100% second in the city to hate crimes against white jews but the NYPD nor local media in NYC seem to be able to televise or get a street camera or put in jail anyone who committed a hate crime against black people

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@ProfD  The answer to your first question

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I would like to know why in modernity that we should care about Cleopatra or Greeks or Romans. 

is simple. The we you refer to doesn't exist. The whole point of any we is that those in the we share something in common. If historical perspective <why in modernity that we should care about Cleopatra or Greeks or Romans>or present strategy < how any of this ancient history will move Black folks beyond their present condition  > are the elements that are meant to be common in a we and it isn't then the we doesn't exist. 

The better questions are two. 1)  who in the Black community thinks like you Profd, shares your philosophical positions offline or online? They exist and are in the millions.  2) what is the we you are apart of doing as a group? The we you are apart of isn't merely Black people. Black people is the village. The we you are apart of is a tribe, Black people who don't care about cleopatra or greeks or romans who see no correlation to that history and how the present condition of blacks can improve under the system of white supremacy.   You don't need black people who do care about cleopatra or see some connection to be convinced to your view. You need to work with those who see your view and do something. It is like I tell Black Donkeys or Black Elephants all the time. You two keep talking about the larger black community but you two don't have anything to show within your own tribe in the village. 

So, ProfD what is your tribe doing to better itself in the village? don't tell me your alone, other black people think like you. I know this for certain from offline conversation side black people you don't know who said exactly what you said. So, I ask again, what is your tribe doing to better itself and telling other blacks to think like y'all isn't dysfunctional proselytization. 

@Pioneer1 all i want to say is i don't share your view, i think most black people in the usa have a negative view towards whites,but also most black people in the usa have a nonviolent stance towards whites. 

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Tituba: The Black History & Origins Of The Salem Witch Trials
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Did you know the first woman ever accused of witchcraft in the United States was a black woman?
Written by
Bilal G. Morris
Published on
February 10, 2021

Did you know the first woman ever accused of witchcraft in the United States was a black woman? Her name was Tituba, and her American story is rarely told in history books. When she was brought to the states as a slave, little did she know her fate would forever be linked to one of the most disturbing atrocities this young country had ever seen? Little did anyone know a slave from Barbados would be the first woman to be accused of practicing witchcraft during the Salem Witch Trials in the early 1690s. 

Some believed Tituba to be Native American, but her roots can be traced back to the tiny island nation located north of Trinidad and Tobago. Even though her past isn’t quite known, what is known is this colored woman was the catalyst to hundreds of women murdered for being so-called witches. Whether you believe in witches or not is irrelevant to this story. This is a tale of race, sexism, and America’s ugly past. 

In 1692, Puritan minister Reverend Samuel Parris, a Salem Village native, heard tales of his daughter partaking in forms of witchery, which at the time was punishable by death. These stories also included his young slave woman, Tituba. Allegedly, Tituba was teaching Parris’ daughter Elizabeth and her friend Abigail voodoo and witchcraft. Parris was furious. Witchcraft to the Puritans meant nothing less than devil worship and any of its practitioners should be scorched in the pit of hell. Parris needed to get to the bottom of this quickly, so he approached the girls, who wouldn’t dare lie to the Puritan minister of Salem Village. The girls, understanding the swift punishment of witchcraft, promptly told the minister what he needed to hear; the slave Tituba was to blame.

Parris now needed one more admission and the truth he’d created in his head would be deemed reality. In his eyes, the validity of the truth didn’t need actual evidence of witchcraft, merely someone who wasn’t Tituba confirming his suspicions. If Tituba told him she was practicing and educating the girls in the works of witchcraft, the blame could easily be shifted. Salem only needed one witch, not three.

The minister attempted to gain a confession from Tituba via beatings. She vehemently denied practicing witchcraft but Parris continued to beat on her for hours until he got his desired result. Even if Tituba confessed to matching a “witch cake” and feeding it to the girls, the mere mention of “witch” satisfied Parris. She knew of women in her native country who practiced and for good measure, she named Sarah Good and Sarah Osbourne. Good and Osbourne weren’t witches either and Good’s family were considered “nuisances” by the general public. In a way similar to the modern criminal justice system and a lack of good societal standing being used to place guilt on anyone, the three were jailed and to await a trial where their guilt was long determined by the court of public opinion — and Parris in particular.

The Salem Witch Trials began in February 1692 and concluded in May 1693. In total, 30 people were found guilty of witchcraft and 19 people were executed by hanging. It was the deadliest witch hunt in the history of colonial North America and Titbua’s false confession started it all. She later recanted her story and confessed she made it up to escape persecution. 

She would apologize to the girls and well as Sarah Good and Sarah Osborne. This infuriated Parris, who would later refuse to pay the jailer’s fee to allow her to be released from prison. She would then spend the next 13 months in prison until she was bought by another slave owner. 

Her story is tragic but is a lesson in understanding the struggle for Black women in early colonial America. Not only was she subjugated to slavery, but she was also was used as a pawn in a deadly period of this county many people do not acknowledge.

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https://blackamericaweb.com/2021/02/10/tituba-the-salem-witch-trials-origins/

REFERRAL- yes from Tony Todd's twitter, some know him as older Jake Sisqo or The Candyman from the original film or Seacrops in Xena world
https://twitter.com/TonyTodd54/status/1649952132676878336

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@Troy 

exactly, I wondered did he sue the film gods of egypt,where most of the actors looked northern european i was unable to find any way to email or message hawass or the lawyer. Isis + Hawthor in that film looked like brunhilda and freya.  

But that was a similar thinking I had. 

I adjusted my post with the following

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl3847128833/weekend/

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So, Gods of Egypt wasn't banned, wasn't called to be banned in Egypt. People saw it in egypt. So, this invalidates the desire of the few in Egypt to pan the cleopatra film by Jada Pinkett Smith. And what does it prove. It proves that, the issue here isn't  that the Cleopatra film in question isn't phenotypically or other racially correct, it is that, it is produced by Jada Pinkett SMith, a Black woman of the USA in the NEtflix zone, which is going to be mostly seen online in streaming. This is the true issue. Black produced and mostly on streaming not in theaters. Hawass and  EL Semary realize that most of the young in egypt, like most poor people in the usa , get film through streaming, not theaters, they are afraid of said Cleopatra's visions being displayed amongst the youth, which will get some youth to question the Europhilic-whitephilic aspects of egyptian culture that have been peddled or enforced by those in power in egypt. I got you!:)  I have found real evidence against them. 

@Chevdove check the comment above to troy. I asked if Gods of EGypt was banned in egpty and it wasn't. I hoped somebody knew but I finally found evidence, all cited. 

@Troy

I paraphrase you 

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The people who rule American today look nothing like the people you lived on  this land mass just s great centuries ago.

well said. Human beings in modernity, led in large part by how the majority of the populace in the usa treats identity as a very modern thing, have a problem accepting racial change in history.  I think said humans like the the ease of ignoring when another people were the majority in the past. And I will even be honest and admit I comprehend why. The reasons why the majority changes in countries is rarely positive or fair, and by ignoring you save the community from the discussion of why things changed so drastically, which rarely has a peaceful way to be.

@Chevdove

Well, I hoped my post aided in clarity. I am saddened it didn't. But, you offer a great question. 

What is the race of cleopatra? now you may ask, didn't I, Richard, answer that. Well no, I didn't. All human beings are part of various races, that are clearly defined with various labels for communication sake. I myself, am male-my gender or sexual physicality at birth/black-my phenotype or appearance/anglo- the language I speak/african- my majority geographic ancestry, note a difference between saying african as opposed to nigerian. and continuing. But what is the point? 

What is the race of cleopatra? 

Is it the cultural race she adhered to? Cleopatra didn't call herself Greek or Hellens, she called herself the queen of egypt. Egpyt is the greek word for Kemet. But, South Africa is the white european term for the lands consisting of and between the Namib or Zululand. Yet, Charlize Theron who has no african or black ancestry, not the same thing, calls herself south african. So, Cleopatra called herself Egyptian. 

Is it her geographic ancestry? Human beings always have mixed ancestry in some form or fashion. A majority of Cleopatra's ancestry is macedonian-hellens/greek, Most Descended of Enslaved from Canada to Argentina have a minority of ancestry from europe, while a majority of ancestry from africa and yet most Descended of Enslaved do not call themselves African or European but Black or NEgra or Noir. So Hawass or others, giving greater attributation to her geographic ancestry is dysfunctionally discarding Cleopatra's life. She had the money or resources to relocate to Greece with money and leave Egypt without a greater fight. 

Is it her phenotype? My guess is Cleopatra was white. I have no proof cause Cleopatra is one of the most historically manipulated figures. And, what I have seen is unverifiable. But her being white doesn't suggest her complete ancestry or the ancestry she valued or her heritage she valued. This is why I continually say finding one's roots has nothing to do with paper trails because the identity of people in the past can only come from their words. I really think the diary or the speech from one's forebears isn't given their proper value in truly comprehending a person's past and definitely one's ancestry. 

Supposedly where her palace was
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antirhodos\

Supposedly from the palace in egypt
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bust_of_Cleopatra

a bust supposedly made in italy during her trip to rome
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Bust_of_Cleopatra_VII_in_the_Altes_Museum_Berlin

So what is the race if Cleopatra ? Is it what she wanted , which no one in modernity knows? Is it what anyone in modernity guesses, even though her life is full of racial complexity? 

@Pioneer1 your correct, but the question is who are arabs?

The problem with the racial term arabs is the same with latinos. In Encanto, the black latinos seem to live absent any friction with white latinos but in reality in most latin american homes, the dark are not treated equally or better than the light, and the powerful in the house are rarely the black while usually the white. In the same context. Arabs is to open ended a racial term. Who are arabs ? those born in the arabian peninsula? those who speak arabic? those who look mulatto in the american continent context but live in North africa or south east europe or westernmost asia arab? If Common the Black American thespian was born in egypt , and all anyone had was a photo, is he black or arab?

My point is, when you have a loose racial classification it yields negative biases because the definition allows for too much and restricts to little. 

the same with American. I don't know how many times I have heard black people utter, you born in the USA your american, which based on descended of enslaved history range from an insult to a crude simplicity. Is anyone Statian , of the usa, because of the legal system's rulings on classification of children based on geography, or some culture or heritage, or the quantity of forebears in the usa ? 

@Troy

yeah

yeah, I got another internet oddity

hmm, many people are all talk

well, the people in the usa never were atoned, nor are atone now. Moreover,  the legal system of the usa or time from english colonies to 2023 or the multiracial community of nonviolent integrationists in the USA are atonements, things that atone , make one. Being one people requires the one thing the USA never had and doesn't have now, a purpose that unifies a people. Germany used to be federated states. Italy was principalities. But it was a unified purpose<to make a country that could stand with pride against their neighbors> that made modern germany, not the law, not a group of people in the country forcing all others<and yes, the German jew wanted a united germany too, and had it,  before world war II>, not an individual liberty mantra. Oneness is always possible no matter the inner multiraciality of any group, but it requires something to be one around. IT can not be oneness for oneness sake. 

if by atonement the hebrew israelites mean repairer, well, the usa has nothing to repair. All the past conditions in the USA or the english colonies preceding it were negative. And, the elements that need repair in the past of the usa are beyond money or technology. Can someone bring back and make as if lived the native american peoples that were slaughtered by whites of europe? can someone bring back and make as if lived the majority of enslaved blacks, as 80% of black enslaved people never made it cross the water, most enslaved black people are in the ocean. Atone, to make one. Repair , to fix. 

@Pioneer1

well, I have never heard a black person say publicly that they want a white person to kiss their feet either BUT I did hear a black person, james baldwin admit that his father hated whites, while his father never, ever, spit/hurled threats/or acted violently towards whites. what is my point? Black people in the usa have a heritage of not speaking , or moreover not acting, how we feel amongst whites or other blacks. I bet many black people wouldn't mind seeing their feet kissed by whites. I am not suggesting me. No I don't want white people kissing my feet. But I am also certain a whole lot more black people , especially descended of enslaved, who wouldn't mind that, but will never say it. Many Black christian chruch people in the 1960s scoffed at Black panthers for self defense members simply demanding all black people arm themselves against white aggression. Said black church people never trusted white people and lived in fear of whites but publicly scoffed at the notion of black people defending themselves. No, the black community in the usa's public voice is untrustworthy to its true desires. 

@Troy well, yes but I want to say, I was up late and all my twitter connections are either sports or writers, with most pundits/athletes et cetera. So i admit this is a rare thing on my feed, which is why it attracted me. 

Well, my twitter gets quite a few daily bots, connecting to it. And usually the bots are white females, oddly enough, just like on blackplanet. so... 

The purpose? that is an excellent question. My first thought was I have no idea. But I recently saw Edtv for the first time and I ponder. You suggested this is for dumb people who will think a race war is imminent, but I think it is for the cinema verite audience. I Think many people online are are entertained, but not through the exact act. They are entertained by the presentation. This is presented as news, as informative, they can read comments. I think many people view the online/electronic social experience itself as entertainment and sequentially, posts like this are cradles of said experience. Positive post don't go far, but this stuff, goes far. 

Cleopatra and the media 
https://aalbc.com/tc/profile/6477-richardmurray/?status=2317&type=status