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  1. @ProfD

    And my point was maybe a platform isn't needed, greater individual quality can be the solution.

     

    They didn't just fight for the freedom, say the whole thing, they won it. And I as I mentioned before. And I oppose your historical assessment. Your suggesting that Haiti's modern and near modern financial situation is a reward or resultant for them using violence to earn freedom which no other black community in the american continent, which includes the usa , has ever earned from their oppressors. Your suggestion I view, I view, as a lie. Modern haitian fiscal situation is disconnected . It isn't a reward for earning their freedom. It is an inevitability to being surrounded by enemies. Haiti's problem isn't hard to comprehend. To haiti's north was the USA, a country founded on white power, white domination, or black enslavement. To HAiti's west was the british colony of jamaica which Marcus Garvey fled and used as inspiration for saying all black people of african descent in the american continent needed to return to africa, nonviolently, but immediately. To the east or south was various latin american countries where negras are totally dominated in the casta system where blancos are top mestizos are second and negras are at the bottom.  

    Haiti had only one way to stop the inevitable financial attack from the outside and that was greater natural resources in haiti, but haiti is an island in the caribbean. IT doesn't have the natural resources to support itself like that. 

    I am afriad to ask how many black children have heard the lie you have continually mentioned on here about haiti. it is false assessment historically. you have the right to make it, it is yours, I don't want you to change it, but it is false,. 

     

    Your statement on oppression is disconnected to the point. Black people in haiti as in all countries have layers of oppressors. Haiti was able to be whites out of haiti but not the entire planet and unfortunately for Haiti, whites ran all of humanity except haiti.

     

    Well thank you. The truth is I don't see myself as a bad writer, but I don't like people assessing from my words falsely. Varying opinions is one things, but false assessments or lies is another, and I find in this forum, looking at many comments, not merely my own, 1+1=5 to often in multilogs in here.  I don't think that sort of calculation is constructive, i think it is dysfunctional. 

     

  2. @Chevdove my pleasure if I helped.

     

    owned by a company called https://www.bytedance.com/

    but they are chinese and privately owned. 

     

    yes, Tik Tok is the usa version of what bytedance first created in china, a short video platform. Yes, tiktok realized what twitter did, people in modernity actually love to post short messages, not long ones, in all formats. The engineering challenge is allowing for a seemingly seamless short video collection. it requires a lot of computers and storage houses to make this work globally. 

     

    Well, functionally their is no functional difference between any online media platform, twitter/youtube/tiktok/facebook all have the same goal, to get more users to use their platform. The only difference is in identity, all the major social media platforms are based in the usa , except for tiktok.

     

    In terms of attracting users, the question is the tactic they use. Twitter goes for short post, which focus on sensationalism and thus sharing. Youtube likes long videos where you can share films/documentaries, long media content. Facebook wants to be a place for it all. tiktok is short videos, sensationalism based. 

     

    The internet isn't a lot, really. You may be surprised what isn't being done because little is financially profitable. The internet itself needed militaristic power, the natural resources for the underwater cable lines, the various personal devices, the data storage and server hubs all around earth to give the illusion of instant connection, came from countries that are known to be manipulated or exploited by outsiders since the 1800s . I think, I can be wrong, the source of the overwhelm is the advertising usage of the internet. It is the biggest commercial break you ever saw. 

     

     

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  3. @Troy

     

    viability, a thing that lives. PEace or violence are always viable. and I quote myself

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    YEs but if you look at the history of black film from mischeaux to nollywood , black cinema has financed its own visions for over 100 years.

    I stated that black people in the usa used and had great levels of unity, used and lived by  nonviolence , and achieved, reached. I didn't say nonviolence was inviable. I said nonviolence has limits. But violence has limits to. This is why the empire where the sun never set, had a setting sun. Violence has limits. 

    When you use the word viable I think of the word safe. Tulsa's black community was nonviolent/unified but nonviolence can't protect anybody as they learned the most blunt way. And in the same way, violence is never safe. Violence always breeds pain or death more than anything else. But it also can breed levels of joy or freedom. tHis is why the only black populace in the american continent, from canada to argentina, to reach the highest levels of freedom was for a short time in haiti. They used violence, very unsafe, many haitians died, far more than europeans, but the win was something no other black peoples in the american continent ever had or have now.

     

    short sighted thugs... the roman empire lasted for 2,000 years

    the founding fathers of the usa , white men, started a global empire that is currently dominating humanity, itself led by white men, that you live in, whose wealth comes entirely from violent acts.

    the british empire made english the common language in humanity

    short sighted dumb thugs... 

    if that is the way you see it, fair enough

     

    I didn't say violence or nonviolence held black people back. I said nonviolence has limits. All strategies have limits.

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    That requires a level of power that all black people know we didn't and don't have and the reasons have nothing to do with laziness or lack of ownership but our historic rivalry with the white community everywhere in humanity. 

    There is limit to the nonviolent approach. And Black people who don't believe non violence has limits do the village a great disservice because it does.

     

    As Frederick Douglass said unstraightly

    the Black community in the usa is doing exactly what he led it to do, to be part of a collective individualism. Most black people in the usa didn't want it then, most black people in the usa don't seem to comprehend it now. The USA Frederick Douglass wanted to be, which is why frederick douglass opposed black people being unified in all black towns in the usa nonviolently ala exodusters, is about individual ability, not collective. Frederick Douglass loved Black unity but he saw human unity as more important and the inevitable destination of a composite nation. And a main tenet to that path is non violence as a tactic. 

    Black people in the usa are not being held back as much as they are on a path that will not provide what many of them think in terms of the black community. The white man will admit that the black community is only second to whites in all financial categories and considering the white communities wealth comes from violence and the black community is nonviolent, well, that will remain the way for the foreseeable future, but that isn't negative, if the goal is to be a country of many races. 

     

    yes it is, but functionality is the debate, not unity. And the black community is functioning well, in the nonviolent context that it has positioned itself in. 

    @ProfD

    I clearly am a bad writer as you or troy prove. and that is unfortunate for me. If you read my words you would had realized that I didn't suggest impotency on the part of the black community in the usa. 

    The question is, does the black film industry in the usa need movie theaters?

    I Argue the black community didn't need movie theaters. Why must the black film industry have to work as the white one ? 

    Again, OScar Micheaux to nollywood prove black people have been making movies over one hundred years. The issue isn't making movies or needing movie theaters. The issue is accepting the financial weakness of a community that has never used violent means for wealth in any grand way in the last one hundred and fifty years. 

    I Argue, Black people's film industry shows viewing films in the home is the market , not in a theater. So, how many black customers buy black films to show in the home? how many black people had projectors or systems to view films. That is what the industrial review says, not mirroring the white film industry.

     

    I didn't say violence was needed to pool financial resources, I said certain goals will not be reached absent the use of violence. That is not the same thing but as I said , I am unfortunately a bad writer. 

     

    Like nonviolence, violence is for any time or any place. THe question is, can one live with the sequences, pro or con, of either. Black people , don't know if most or minor, but definitely of a large percentage in the usa, are frightened of the consequence of violence , a well earned fear, but nonviolence has limits. and as I told troy so does violence. nothing grants you everything, nothing. The questions are what can you live with or what do you truly want or what path are you truly going toward. 

  4. @ProfD YEs but if you look at the history of black film from mischeaux to nollywood , black cinema has financed its own visions for over 100 years. But while the black community has written/directed/financed out own films , we do not have the power to dictate advertising or movie theaters. That requires a level of power that all black people know we didn't and don't have and the reasons have nothing to do with laziness or lack of ownership but our historic rivalry with the white community everywhere in humanity. 

    There is limit to the nonviolent approach. And Black people who don't believe non violence has limits do the village a great disservice because it does. The Black community in the USA had an era of negro leagues where most owners were black, had and have historic black colleges- though most were never mostly financed by black people, have independent movie producers. But, Black people can't blame ourselves for not having the wealth of whites when black people know white wealth comes from the thing many black people keep uttering we shouldn't do, and that is violence. Black people want to have full control you have to have violence and all the potential pain or suffering as well as potential success or happiness that comes from violence. 

    Black people have done nonviolently what we can but nonviolence has limits. And history proves me right.

  5. I followed you @Troy

    The ban on tiktok isn't about tiktok but really what I call the internet wars. You probably know this as you do development of the website at least but all the major countries and some little one's dabble in meddling online and all to often the firms mask or are being infiltrated for various information gathering or destroying purposes. But, Tiktok is the first major non usa based userbase and thus the usa wants to ban it for until tiktok all major traffic for those who humanity who are online, which isn't all or most, was through a usa company that the usa government was fully in control of accessing their data. Now, the chinese have a foot in the usa and that is an e-war thing. The USA has foots in all the other countries online through usa based firms, but they don't want china or any other country to have a foothold in the usa. Simple. 

     

    @Pioneer1 what can be found on tiktok is userbases. ... What you have to comprehend is userbases are currency. What does that mean? If I own a website and it has 60 million users, no bots, it may have 120 million users, including bots but that also means that the popularity of anything on my website will have farther weight than on another website with less uers. sequentially more advertisement money or profiles for organizations to get their messages out or make promotions. 

    From forums to yahoo<emai>l to youtube<videos> to facebook<social media post> to twitter<short text> to tiktok<short videos> you have different websites that offered something that gave them a bigger userbase than the past leader. Tiktok has the advantage of being connected to china's internal userbase.

    Why does that matter?

    When the internet was first developed each country was given country codes. why? The idea was that countries will not be bound to each other and can develop their own internal internets while still connecting to each other. oddly enough, china is the only country to actually implement this in a complete way. yes, most major governments have their own internet, but most countries civilian populaces are not given their own proprietary network to utilize, it is an extension of the usa. 

    And thus where tiktok is different. It is the first non usa based major userbase online. 

    Yes, I didn't mention the short videos. The short videos was its catch, a very expensive thing which youtube was waiting to do but tiktok made them jump forward. 

     

    Well, to your point about freedom of speech, these websites are expensive and they want to reach a wide audience and lawsuits can become messy. The reality is ,many lawsuits involve social media so most firms want to stay as safe as they can and that means restrictions. Tumblr is a great example, that isn't a major player and yet the involvement of the legal system caused shockwaves in that firm. 

     

    For a website to allow for truly unfettered free speech they have to have a number of things. 1st) be in a country with a strong legal protection for free speech. I remember belgium/holland/switzerland websites tried to be that way but what was the problem 2) to reach a global audience is very expensive as userbases grow you need more and more data storage and more and more data servers to simulate instantaneous connection anywhere in humanity, the usa has that money, china has that money, the qatari's of uea's have that money but have populaces to small to need it. So, what you say will happen is inevitable but for not it to happen will require a level of protection from lawsuit which doesn't exist in the usa or a level of wealth from countries that don't have it. 

     

    @ProfD you may not know this but a very large, what I call, unconnected community exist in modernity. Said community has two parts.  The first part is the obvious, most in humanity are poor and are not online. That is a simple fact that most don't seem to comprehend. The second part are people in the wealthier places like usa/china/western  europe/russia/ who chose to not be online at all. Not even one website, none at all. It isn't as small a populace as media may suggest. So your larger community is quite large offline completely or online with one website. Age has nothing to do with it. YOu may be surprised. 

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  6. @ProfD I comprehended  you. 

    but consider this, iceland has a population of ceiling 377,000. They have a flag team and fanatic fans that play in big tournaments in UEFA. You may not know what uefa is but the point is, a population of 377,000 supports  ahigh profile team in soccer. You say soccer is not popular but again i disagree. I concur soccer is not as popular as the gridiron in the black statian community but in a populace of 47 million, the black statian populace, one percent is 470,000 which is more than the populace of iceland. I think far more than one percent of black statians are fans of futebol/calcio/soccer in face i am sure of it.  sequentially, a large enough fanbase in the black community exist to support a black person who owns a soccer team to be supported by a supposedly pro-black black financially affluent community. 

    Again, I ask, please, if you live in that area as Pioneer suggest, please ask someone from prince george county why ? 

    The USA is a country of over 300 million, every sport has millions who support it in the USA, no sport is unpopular, the only issue is which sport is the most popular, not if it is popular. And the issue of the most popular is irrelevant to the issue of investing in sport.  because millions in the usa support all sports in the usa. 

  7. @ProfD you clearly aren't from nyc, to say that, in nyc, afro americans were soccer fans before the immigration act of 1965. 

     

    Maryland is part of south and that is gridiron country so I can see your point but, I admit, I find I am more interested in black people who have's activities than black fiscal poor. Black fiscal poor people stealing/selling illegal products/doing business activities outside the legal system in the streets which means they have to protect themselves by all arms,  I accept. I don't see it as an issue, cause it all makes sense. but black people who have, who tend to complain about what the larger community isn't doing, rejecting a black person with money who wants to bring a high media item to their community... If you can find more it will be appreciated. I want to know. 

  8. @Pioneer1 to be fair, you asked the questions this time, all i did was articulate. 

     

    and you ask another question, which many in this forum do  while I do not. The question is: what will it take for black crime to not be an issue to 95% or above of Black people in the usa? 

     

    I admit, I have never been convinced that Black crime is a problem but offline or online, luckily not in my home , Black crime seems to be a huge issue for a very large percentage of black people. so the question is, what will it take for it not to be. 

     

     

  9. @Pioneer1 

    you offer two questions:

    1)in the usa, are black populaces in cities better off when the black populace is not the majority populace in a city?

    2)in the usa, in cities, are black communities better off with a DOS/FBA majority or with a plurality between DOS/FBA plus Caribbeans<many islands> plus Continentals< many countries>?

     

    i honestly can't say. Based on your answers I can guess what you will say. My primary problem with both questions being answered is the absence of a successful , as I define success, black community in any city in the USA. Based on how I define success for a community, no city in the usa,  with a majority black populace or not,  with a internally mixed black populace or not, has achieved success. So, I can't say. You suggest two great questions. The day one city in the usa, has a successful black community, as I define success, I will be able to answer the questions you pose.

     

  10. @ProfD my only issue is when you said 

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    No doubt prison has become big business. 

    Prison always was and will be big business, the reason is simple. each government in all of human history has at least one group being abused by another under it. in the usa's case it is many multiples of groups but it is always at least one, and sequentially, that groups abuse requires prison and that prison populace is always more useful than the populace outside for the prisoner's lack of protection from being abused. 

     

    when the colonies separated from england prisoners who chose to spend time as indentured servants,  were not given clean slates. And like the enslaved indentured servants is a financial labor advantage for employers. cause the wage is less than market while the hours are above market. 

     

    @Pioneer1 all i can say is, I live in the most urban city in the usa and in the city with the largest black populace of any city in the usa, and I have never felt unsafe in the black community. I Will be blunt. IS their crime ? yes. But I have never felt it as you speak. Now the black community in NYC is large, millions of people, so it doesn't need to be uniform, but not all black people who live in the black community have your negative experience like you pioneer or others. And I know from offline experience, many black people concur to me, as well as many black people concur to you. In my experience the acts of violence rise as non blacks get in and around the black community. I have found most black men in my neck of the village are good guys, even if they do financially illegal activity to feed themselves. 

  11. I wouldn't have been angry if you would had shared this, it wouldn't been the exact tone I was looking for, but there is nothing more scripted than unscripted television:) 

    I have a small question:) either the nerves in her hips are dead or he has some sort of kinesis emitting from his hands that made her feel he had her cause in the video, he never grabbed her, and I don't see how she didn't know. 

    She also doesn't need the fake hair, she has her real hair in cornrowls, they look nice:) 

    do i am come off as ... bourgeoise? :) @Chevdove 

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