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  1. @Chevdove What you have to comprehend, and I hope you embrace the following idea well, most countries in modern humanity are filled with liars, the rich lie about where their wealth comes from, the poor lie about why they are denied wealth, the governments lie about the nature of their system, the governed lie about the reality of living under the system. The USA, rich or poor or government or general populace the governed , lie more than any one else in humanity, but has created an environment where most countries mirror the lying culture of the usa. France has always been anti non white or anti non european. But, a few rich in France, have some non white friends or non european friends and tout this egalitarianism. The government of France needed closest to enslaved labor but couldn't operate in the usa global system as in the past, so they had to invite poor people into france, the usa model. But they only wanted their cheap labor , in the same way the usa or england only wanted or wants cheap labor. But, the government of France was unable to say in the usa global system that they never planned on the cheap labor or any of their descendents to be anything in france but that, so France doesn't compute race in their statistics. A strong cover in a humanity whose media in nearly every corner of humanity, led by the USA of course, love statistics to prove or disprove, thus france can say, france is an aracial country cause no racial statistics exist. But the africans in france are liars as well. JAme sBAldwin in his book, I am not your negro flat out said, the algerian is the negro of france. I don't know how better to say it. Any african in France talking about being abused when you think about the relationship of senegal or algeria to france is a liar at the least or at the most a fool plus liar. The truth is a simple thing. It isn't desired by liars cause it invalidates their position. The government of france wants to say it is built to embrace all, when it isn't. The rich of france wants to say, they are open to profit for all when they don't. The poor of france wants to say they are a multiracial community when they are not. The poor of france in parts can't stand each other. The immigrants to france from outside europe, no matter the generation feel they should be accepted or embraced into france when they knew they were not and know they don't need to be. I have been to north africa, yes, their is poverty, alot of it, and the wealthy north africa has no interest in sharing wealth or supporting their impoverished neighbor. But, the immigrants to france from north africa can go home, home being where they came from. I know I have preached and I apologize. But, in this issue people are focusing away from the primary point. The lies eventually are undone by the truth. No shame in telling the truth even if it is a negativity. https://aalbc.com/tc/profile/6477-richardmurray/?status=2369&type=status
  2. @Pioneer1 that's your view, again, all I will say is, I don't concur to the principles of the following from your prose. Again, I don't want you or anyone else to change your views, but I am free to say you don't speak for me or my views are not analogous to yours or anyone else's To the following, I am certain all groups in humanity can grow or expand as well as lessen or diminish . Any human who thinks any group in humanity can't get better or worse at any time , is for me, a true fool. But I don't comprehend what you mean by dead weight, what are you talking about?
  3. @Pioneer1 all i will say is I can't agree or I don't like or can't accept the following from you as analagous to my perception For me, and me alone, I ask no one to agree or change their opinion, but again for me I can't say how I describe said events fits how you describe it.
  4. @Chevdove what do you think? history can not be changed while alternative histories can not be known. My position can not be proven nor can pioneer's position be proven absolute. The only thing that is certain is what happened. but how history is assessed explains ourselves and i think many black people in the usa show they are, safe pragmatist, in how they assess history. Taking every turn of history in the usa as a positive step on a path is best, not because it is fact, which is what the past is, not because it must be assessed positivlely, which is only opinion, but because it fits the strategy of seeing the choices the black community, in particular, DOS community has made as to the best interest of the black community. But I argue many events in usa or its european colonial history are not for the best for the black community or at least its majority and do not lead to wiser situations in the time after said events.
  5. Sammy Davis Interview

     

     

    TRANSCRIPT

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    4 scene 22 take 33 psalm 22.
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    damn
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    [Music]
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    went into the army
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    you know that that horrible
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    that was my first taste really of racism
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    you know ever because I never been
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    exposed to it being in Show Business you
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    know
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    you know you'd run into the average bit
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    of it but not them not enough to to
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    upset you or anything you know or not
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    even to be aware because I'm in show
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    business so I wasn't aware of it and as
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    a kid being in Show Business you I
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    didn't learn until later the about why
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    we slept in bus stations and why we had
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    to go to the police and say where's
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    there
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    a colored family that you can stay with
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    because you couldn't get in the hotels
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    and things like that you couldn't eat in
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    this restaurant
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    but there was a very close fraternity
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    between most of the black and white
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    performers at that time
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    uh that doesn't exist today what were
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    some specific examples when you started
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    first getting the message
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    well I think the the first real thing
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    that I got was in the Army when I you
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    know and I was in basic training and I
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    hadn't even gone to basic training I
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    went in San Francisco we went to the
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    Presidio Monterey and the third day I
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    was standing in line and this is before
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    um desegregation came in the Army you
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    know uh and I'm standing in line and at
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    the at this place where there was black
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    and white soldiers and the cat said you
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    know
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    where I come from [ __ ] you know
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    staring in the back or they they ain't
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    here I forget the exact line now and I
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    had my my duffel bag and I'm a duffel
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    bag but you know the thing like use the
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    carry of Shaving equipment in and I just
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    sundied him you know
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    and knocked him down and had cut his lip
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    and he's bleeding from the lid and he
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    said
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    okay you knock me down but you still a
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    [ __ ]
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    and that laid with me you know because
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    that that's that's so
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    so venomous it really is you know that
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    that's the kind of cat that you ain't
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    gonna never reach
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    were there some points at which you
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    during that time when you had a lot of
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    pressures on you almost lost confidence
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    in yourself
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    oh well I that happened to me but not
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    until I made it really because you know
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    when you when you're hungry and you're
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    trying to get there that's one thing
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    because you've got that ambition that
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    feeds on and you keep crawling on your
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    ambition to get there I got there until
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    I lost control of everything
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    sense of values uh
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    now I've got the doll so wound up
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    there was no relaxing there was there
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    was no being aware of anything first of
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    all there was not much to be aware of
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    anyway in those days
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    but I mean the nominal awareness that
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    wasn't there I was just wrapped up in me
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    then then I got scared because I started
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    to lose what I thought was the basic
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    human instinct that I had had
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    and I got too phony I did oh I did it
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    all man I invented some
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    the ones that in the book I invented
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    some other problems you know but
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    I you know again to relate to what you
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    are I said today and I look back 25
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    years ago and I say wow I don't think I
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    my head would be where it is now if I
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    had not gone through that
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    25 years ago all the mistakes being on
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    all the time
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    emulating in truth emulating the white
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    stars not trying to get my own identity
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    but because that that was the kick then
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    you know that's what you had to do so I
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    decided if you got to do it then I'd do
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    it better than anybody else had ever
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    done it
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    you know in other words when I started
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    to do Impressions and all of that kind
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    of stuff relating to a theatrical thing
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    being on Broadway and Mr Wonderful you
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    know I wanted to do all that because I
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    figured if Donald O'Connor can do it man
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    I'm gonna do it
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    so in other words I was becoming a black
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    Donald O'Connor a black Mickey Rooney
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    instead of becoming a black Sammy Davis
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    what about the Rat Pack era you and
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    Sinatra and let me light a cigarette and
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    I'll tell you okay
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    I keep thinking uh just a few days
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    [Music]
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    no longer will it be anything happening
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    like it should be the one traffic ticket
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    that's the first step to maybe in 20
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    years is not to legalize it right now
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    when they legalized marijuana
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    but I'm just comedically I'm thinking
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    when they legalize it they will be back
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    to commercials again
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    [Music]
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    [Music]
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    [Music]
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    and plus but the most important thing is
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    you'd never be able to run through the
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    forest
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    thank you
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    what about the Rat Pack era
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    was that a part of your mistakes
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    well let me tell you about let me tell
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    you about the Sinatra thing
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    uh
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    if it hadn't been for Frank Sinatra
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    I don't I would have never been in films
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    really
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    because he gave me uh
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    he gave me a an opportunity
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    in three pictures
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    based upon the fact that there was
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    nothing to do really except the fact
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    that it we got the job because we were
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    all friends and buddies and it was based
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    upon a camaraderie that we had as a
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    bunch of guys as performers that Frank
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    said why don't we do all do a picture
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    together
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    but he so he helped my career
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    tremendously again my own personal
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    involvement being such that I became so
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    involved with that lifestyle
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    that again I found myself submerging
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    into a lifestyle that I could not equate
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    with after you'd leave the party you
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    come home and you're going to
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    and you say wow man it sure was nice to
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    be in the company of all them big names
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    and the movie star
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    but there was no
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    on one hand I I loved being with my
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    friends
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    but it was submerging me as a human
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    being I think as I analyze it now
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    and there were Beautiful Moments during
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    that period of the 60s the early 60s and
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    there was some frightening moments I
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    remember walking on the stage at the
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    Democratic Convention and being booed by
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    the southern contingent you know
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    because they had no business the only
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    reason they booed me was because I was
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    married to a white woman you know to put
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    it right where it's at that's why they
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    boom boom hits how dare you be married
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    to a white woman you know
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    but it was
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    a part of conversation privately and
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    publicly is that uh you were married to
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    a white woman how do you feel about that
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    how would you advise a young black
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    person your son about marrying a white
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    woman
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    I think a person should marry who they
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    want to marry man
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    I think that you can be committed to
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    your people to the cause whatever you
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    whatever the terminology you want to use
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    doesn't matter matter who you're married
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    to if you fall in love you fall in love
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    if you're if you're getting I don't
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    think anyone gets married has children
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    and the rest
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    to do a three cheating job you know
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    and uh
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    to me
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    I feel no thing about it I really don't
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    I really don't feel anything about that
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    because I think that's so damn private
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    man
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    that has to do with what I want a cat to
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    do if it's a brother on the corner
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    whatever it is look at me and say what
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    did you do today to help
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    don't talk about my private life
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    that's mine that if you know if I want
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    to marry a dog that's my life
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    this is the point whatever I had I paid
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    my dues to get it
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    and I mean pay them
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    in every way you want to talk about but
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    what I'm but that's professionally
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    that's as a human being on a
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    professional level but as a human being
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    period I tell my kids Harry who you want
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    to marry
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    now I know this sure as I'm sitting on
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    this floor man whole bunch of brothers
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    and sisters don't like me there's a
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    whole bunch of white people that don't
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    like me why do you feel there's a group
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    of brothers and sisters who don't like
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    you because there was a whole bunch of
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    brothers and sisters that didn't like
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    Jesus Christ that's why
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    and ain't nobody ever been put on this
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    Earth that everybody liked
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    they don't kill Martin Luther King the
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    only thing he kept singing was we shall
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    overcome and love and peace killed him
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    wiped him out killed Malcolm
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    wiped out everybody man don't you
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    understand and some cat hired three
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    black cats to wipe out the man who was
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    the mother of our time and when they
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    killed him he had a half a church full
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    of people it wasn't like it was packed
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    and jammed because already he was losing
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    and he says it himself if you read his
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    works that there's a whole bunch of
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    [ __ ] that don't like me black folks
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    like me but not the [ __ ]
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    which is true and three black cat three
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    [ __ ] knocked him off
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    paid by white establishment that's my
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    feeling and I will feel this as long as
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    I live
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    and it was afterwards at the the
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    Resurgence of this man and suddenly we
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    became aware of all the things that he
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    was saying because as long as doesn't it
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    strike you funny that as long as
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    Malcolm was preaching separatism
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    as long as he was preaching such
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    vehemence he never got hurt at all it
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    was when he came back from Mecca and he
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    said we must all live together we must
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    we must ask black people do our thing
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    but we must all live on this Earth as
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    one blah blah that's when he started
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    getting his house bombed
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    he got wiped out months later
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    same thing with King as long as King was
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    hitting the March as they put him in
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    jail that was it as soon as he started
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    talking about Vietnam
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    and the workers and this that and the
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    other getting out of his field of
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    reference
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    really
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    heavy too heavy for somebody wipe him
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    out
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    you know and it's frightening to me so
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    that's why I say a lot of people will
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    not like any performer and you try to
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    relate
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    as far I'm not talking about relating in
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    terms of oh hi bra and do the Fist and
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    whatever it is and hey man right on I'm
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    not talking about the words I'm talking
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    about in your heart relating to what the
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    problems are
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    but the society in which we live in
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    today it has gotten to a point where you
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    cannot do that anymore based upon the
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    fact that I must do what I feel
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    if I feel that I I want to help in this
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    area I try to do it and I try to do it
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    Sans publicity not based upon the fear
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    that I have for my job
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    but I think that sometimes if I want to
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    help some brothers who are in trouble my
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    lending my name to it defeats the very
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    purpose that they're trying to achieve
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    but money is money
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    heart is heart you should lend your
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    heart and your money you ain't got the
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    money
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    then lend this lend your body man to it
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    you know but I'm talking about I think
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    that if the performer can be used
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    than he should be used
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    to put my obligation into black positive
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    things I'm not talking about National
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    organizations it can be something that's
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    happening on the corner a project that
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    because I found out and Walter Mason can
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    tell you we found out that you go into a
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    town
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    and sometimes it's as little as a
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    hundred dollars because you go to an
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    area where this where where some
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    projects are and they got a recreation
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    center ain't got no pool table ain't got
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    no records to play so the kids don't go
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    there they hang on the car right
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    Jesus you walk in and you look around
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    and you say hey well I know I get a pool
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    table and I know I can get the record
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    player and I'll get reprise at that time
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    or my own company to send records you're
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    in a privileged situation first of all
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    uh I can't help but make an analogy
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    between yourself and lean a horn
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    I mean the two of you are for lack of a
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    better phrase are superstars are using
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    to some extent your sense of commitment
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    you uh you're evolving a new sense of
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    self and most importantly like you're
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    going in front of the nation and you're
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    saying I'm Black and I'm Proud and I'm
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    relating to my people
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    I'm not going to use anybody's name but
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    I'm sure you won't but where are the
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    heads of a lot of the black Superstars
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    we don't see them like we see you in
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    Philadelphia with the street gangs we
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    don't see them saying what Lena said in
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    terms of what's happened to her well I I
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    think
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    I think the phonies
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    that's what I think and the bitter irony
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    of it all is
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    that
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    again I have to sit by man and watch
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    these people be lauded by our brothers
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    and sisters in the streets
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    and they and the brothers and sisters
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    must be aware
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    that they ain't doing nothing
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    but it took me a long time to get there
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    maybe they maybe my brother brothers and
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    sisters who are superstars need that
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    kind of time and there are many who say
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    I don't want to get involved in it
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    but I don't know how you cannot get
    14:04
    involved in it because they are first of
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    all black and they are committed
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    whether they want to be committed or not
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    the very nature of the skin commits you
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    I don't read a script that I don't weigh
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    and say I wonder what the brother and
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    the con is going to think about this
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    how can I change it if it's wrong
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    because the black performer again has
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    that obligation
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    that we are black performers
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    and so therefore I'm not talking about
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    you gonna come out every time man and do
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    a number because like on Laugh-In
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    you know I do jokes but somewhere along
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    the line I've got to relate to what's
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    really happening
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    somewhere so that the brother who's
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    watching me who may not necessarily buy
    14:49
    my records
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    may not go to my movies may not come to
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    the Copa the Sands Hotel lassimi will
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    say yeah
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    in a bar or in his house yeah
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    that's all that's my thanks but the
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    black audience
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    owes that black performer an obligation
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    of watching and supporting him unless he
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    turns out to be really the rat of all
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    time
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    but I mean when I say rap I mean he's
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    not doing anything he's doing things
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    that embarrass the the black population
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    now I know a lot of people don't like
    15:24
    flips doing the the Deacon I've heard a
    15:27
    lot of talk about it Geraldine Geraldine
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    they don't like uh I now my personal
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    things I think geraldine's funny I feel
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    a little funny about the deacon
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    because I think that's going back to
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    something that's so deeply rooted in
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    black people
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    religiously you know that I think that
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    that does this to me but I think it's
    15:45
    still funny because I'm looking at it
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    again through one eye that looks
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    in two directions first as a performer
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    is it funny is it clever secondly as a
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    man we're trying to relate to the cat on
    15:57
    the corner again you understand what I
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    mean because first and foremost I'm a
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    performer that's all I've ever done all
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    my life
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    so I know he's got to weigh it but what
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    do you do
    16:07
    you've got to have the support of your
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    people
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    but geez I just love saying that number
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    one variety show in the country now and
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    start in by a black man who is very very
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    funny but Amos and Andy was funny don't
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    do that to me don't do that
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    and Geraldine is funny and uh the Deacon
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    is funny but can you move forward you
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    know at at the level of the struggle we
    16:36
    are for Liberation yeah you know came
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    before to continually uh entertain white
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    people with shows produced by white men
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    with a frame of reference of what we are
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    I mean that's not defining ourselves and
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    the role of the Entertainer
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    to some extent has to accommodate that
    16:54
    relevant I think that the Amos Amanda
    16:56
    was funny I was embarrassed by it I
    16:58
    signed the letters too you know but I I
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    say that I think at this point now we've
    17:02
    got more stars than we've ever had
    17:04
    before that I can afford the luxury
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    because in place of Geraldine and then
    17:10
    place a Flip Wilson I have Don Knotts
    17:14
    since you both guess no baby I was out
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    of town you know I haven't had a chance
    17:19
    to live a boat here okay so what you
    17:21
    think of the terrible cat dead man
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    we are like
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    in one sense limited because we will
    17:33
    never have the audience of a commercial
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    Channel but do you want that audience
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    I'd like to have that audience on the
    17:40
    other hand if getting that audience
    17:43
    necessitated compromising our principles
    17:46
    I know they have ten Brothers
    17:48
    out of the 200 million people in this
    17:51
    country watch this show yeah then they
    17:53
    have the 200 million people in this
    17:55
    country watch the show even because I
    17:57
    think being irrelevant is
    17:58
    counterproductive you know and and that
    18:00
    brings me to the next point
    18:02
    uh you have a show
    18:05
    that
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    folded
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    and that's when I think like what you
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    said you were in another era
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    you're being very kind yeah
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    I was a stone rock and you could be for
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    free yeah what would you do I mean I
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    don't know but I would I tell you what I
    18:26
    wouldn't do or maybe by that you can get
    18:28
    a clue I certainly wouldn't do nothing
    18:29
    more than I'm doing as an entertainer
    18:31
    today in other words I ain't gonna let
    18:33
    them change me last time out I let him
    18:35
    put me in suits I couldn't smoke I
    18:37
    couldn't say what I wanted to say and
    18:39
    though I put a lot of people to work and
    18:40
    I did a lot of things and all of that
    18:42
    and I changed a lot of policies at NBC
    18:44
    you know when they catch and went yeah
    18:47
    because you know I walked into the
    18:48
    publicity office one day I didn't see no
    18:49
    black people I said I don't understand
    18:50
    this it looks like the Lilies of the
    18:52
    white Fields you know and that was it
    18:54
    and the guy went oh he's very bitter and
    18:56
    I went well the hell with it I am very
    18:58
    bitter if I got it I gotta surround
    18:59
    myself with people that I know of and
    19:01
    we've got capable brothers and sisters
    19:02
    to do it now you go up there and be
    19:04
    seeing it's packed and jammed and the
    19:05
    executives are there you know but the
    19:07
    only thing that they are
    19:11
    you know
    19:15
    the most relevant thing I think I was
    19:18
    able to do was near the end of the
    19:20
    series I did a sketch
    19:21
    with nipsy Russell
    19:24
    about how brothers treat Brothers
    19:27
    and I did a very Bourgeois cat going in
    19:29
    to apply for a job right
    19:31
    and very Bourgeois with the three button
    19:33
    code as soon as he found out it was a
    19:35
    brother
    19:36
    he took his head on each other
    19:39
    right and the cat's baggies to send him
    19:41
    in and the cat walked in he said damn
    19:43
    hey babe that ain't the way he walked in
    19:46
    the White Secretary was there seeing he
    19:47
    said I'm I'm here for the job and I like
    19:50
    to apply I've been okayed and I went
    19:51
    through the IBM machines blah blah blah
    19:54
    talked very problem as soon as he went
    19:55
    in there instead of identifying and
    19:57
    saying Hey I want a groove it is to see
    19:59
    you in this position he didn't do that
    20:00
    he just put his feet up on the desert
    20:02
    dead go ahead and sign that
    20:05
    you know I'm straight
    20:08
    you know and suddenly here's the brother
    20:10
    sitting there trying to do something and
    20:12
    he is not protected and it was a funny
    20:13
    sketch and we loved doing it I got such
    20:16
    complaints from NBC you would not
    20:18
    believe and we never were to do another
    20:19
    one because I think we went through a
    20:21
    period where we were just pleased to see
    20:23
    a black guy there
    20:25
    yeah
    20:26
    there we are
    20:28
    there we are we in there because we
    20:30
    needed that at that period now we've got
    20:32
    to go on
    20:33
    further
    20:35
    you know what I mean and it's not just
    20:37
    seeing the black cat there anymore
    20:39
    you know it's like the guys I will
    20:42
    believe till I die that when the
    20:44
    pressure came on the Madison Avenue and
    20:46
    they said you got to put black people
    20:47
    into commercials they said we'll show
    20:50
    them black people in a commercial so
    20:51
    they put them in the commercials where
    20:53
    black people look ludicrous in
    20:56
    you know because everybody has a white
    20:58
    neighbor
    20:59
    you very rarely see two black women
    21:02
    talking
    21:03
    and if they're black women talking
    21:05
    they're not the sisters
    21:08
    it's Bourgeois middle class you know
    21:11
    straight hair no dues never a dude ever
    21:14
    never do you know can't look like Gloria
    21:16
    Foster no chance you know you must look
    21:19
    like you know the old days of of tan
    21:22
    confessions you know and that's it
    21:24
    and I look and I say it on the stage
    21:26
    sometimes I say it's ridiculous because
    21:29
    it doesn't relate to anything
    21:35
    you wearing a free Angela button have
    21:37
    you had any reaction from other people
    21:39
    as a result of wearing that button well
    21:41
    that was a fan of mine
    21:43
    in the restaurant and uh
    21:46
    was at the risk around the airport and
    21:48
    the guy walked up and asked my autograph
    21:50
    and he was white and he said Jay the
    21:53
    wife gets a big kick out of here when is
    21:55
    he on the laughing and all that sign us
    21:59
    for the kitties you know and I signed it
    22:01
    and he said I was wondering if and he
    22:03
    started staring at the button and I was
    22:04
    wearing you know this but and he was
    22:06
    going like this and he kept saying I was
    22:08
    I was and he was trying to focus on it
    22:10
    because I I was blowing his bubble
    22:13
    because they have
    22:15
    an image of me I guess of another kind
    22:18
    my involvement with Angela is again the
    22:22
    Injustice of it all
    22:24
    uh her political beliefs you know are
    22:26
    her own
    22:28
    I don't share her political beliefs I
    22:30
    share her blackness
    22:32
    and I share the Injustice to any black
    22:35
    person and there's no way that she's
    22:36
    going to get the right kind of trial we
    22:38
    know that
    22:39
    it's stacked against it
    22:41
    uh they made her the Most Wanted woman
    22:44
    since uh Bonnie of Bonnie and Clyde and
    22:49
    I think that if a guy like myself wears
    22:51
    a button
    22:52
    that's letting somebody in that crowd
    22:54
    that I go around with know where my
    22:55
    head's at
    22:57
    you're now married to a sister
    22:59
    is she I didn't I didn't know that
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    and it's so groovy and so nice I've been
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    in the hospital five times
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    I think he's trying to tell me so
    23:34
    I'm absolutely
    23:36
    you know flabbergasted by the by the
    23:39
    fact that we as a people almost without
    23:42
    the underground which they keep saying
    23:44
    we've got and everything else around the
    23:46
    ground as a soul underground you know
    23:48
    don't take no trains or nothing this
    23:51
    something happens it's it's the same
    23:53
    thing compared to
    23:54
    as soon as downtown gets the dance we've
    23:57
    gone on to another one and nobody ever
    24:00
    told us that they got it and we didn't
    24:03
    care about it but when they get funky
    24:04
    chicken we're into something else
    24:06
    uh there's something else you know it's
    24:08
    the thing that we have that ain't no
    24:09
    other people got in the world
    24:12
    it's that immediate eye to eye contact
    24:15
    that says
    24:17
    jamf
    24:19
    horse that says
    24:21
    yeah
    24:23
    that's that same thing again that one
    24:25
    word yeah
    24:27
    and you know and it's not followed by
    24:29
    he's down right on but really just yeah
    24:33
    you feel that we can solve our problem
    24:34
    by having some type of army or some type
    24:38
    of violent confrontation with whites
    24:41
    no
    24:43
    you know ain't no way you can put poor
    24:45
    Cadillacs against the tank
    24:48
    two Rusty raises
    24:50
    you know against an M1
    24:52
    and the flame throw against a bottle of
    24:55
    Coca-Cola with a rag in it ain't no way
    24:57
    you can do that
    25:01
    how is it that you're free enough uh to
    25:04
    talk the way you're talking and be an
    25:06
    Entertainer
    25:07
    because you know
    25:09
    the rationale is that if I'm black and
    25:11
    an Entertainer I can't be too involved
    25:13
    with black causes and survive in an
    25:16
    industry controlled basically by white
    25:18
    people how are you free enough let's say
    25:20
    to come on black journal and relate to
    25:22
    the brothers and sisters the Way You Are
    25:24
    but I I think
    25:27
    that it's called
    25:29
    a respect for one's opinion
    25:31
    because I've had too many white people
    25:33
    talk to me and say I
    25:35
    I don't like what you said on the David
    25:36
    Frost show about something such a thing
    25:39
    well you but you shared a lot of guts to
    25:41
    say it
    25:44
    and the other point is which is very
    25:46
    very good man
    25:48
    I really don't care I don't give it
    25:52
    when I say this is a racist society in
    25:55
    which we live in everybody knows it is
    25:58
    that ain't no that ain't no big big
    26:00
    statement to make it maybe it's shocking
    26:03
    to hear it from someone that you just
    26:04
    watched the night before on laughing uh
    26:07
    but it is man I can't say well how can
    26:10
    you say that white and black say this to
    26:11
    me how can you say that man you got it
    26:13
    made I said I Got It Made because I had
    26:15
    to fight all of that but I then owe an
    26:17
    obligation to my brothers and my sisters
    26:19
    to let them know
    26:21
    that it existed then it still exists now
    26:24
    and I've been here for 40 years you know
    26:27
    I've got the house I've got a wife I've
    26:29
    got children I've got success
    26:32
    and now it is time for me to try in
    26:36
    every way feasible
    26:38
    to help
    26:39
    the plight of my people
    26:41
    and to gain our freedom because I'm see
    26:45
    the fallacy is man and let's let me say
    26:47
    this and and I really mean it from the
    26:49
    bottom of my heart
    26:50
    money don't make you free
    26:52
    popularity don't make you free
    26:55
    don't you know that
    26:58
    you know sure I live in Beverly Hills
    27:00
    but I'm Shackled by the same things that
    27:01
    happen to the brother and Watts
    27:06
    I've had my bosses say to me
    27:09
    cats that I work for
    27:11
    who you know really basically give me a
    27:15
    Jack Entrada will say to me Sam geez
    27:17
    that was a little heavy statement you
    27:19
    said on that I said but it's true ain't
    27:20
    it Jack he said yeah I know it's true
    27:22
    but I said Butcher and that's the end of
    27:24
    that
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    I mean that man and my cousin did I say
    27:29
    it like it is man I've been the last
    27:31
    five years
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    go away
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    thank you
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    because he's got to respect me it's like
    27:42
    when a brother comes to me and says but
    27:43
    man you're a Jew
    27:45
    you know I look at him and say what's
    27:46
    your religion and he says I'm a Baptist
    27:49
    or I don't have one or I'm a Muslim I
    27:51
    said well our religion is blackness
    27:55
    because if we ever get to the point
    27:57
    where we started talking about he's a
    27:58
    black Jew he's a black Catholic he's a
    28:00
    black Baptist he's a black Muslim really
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    saved for the titles that the papers put
    28:04
    on people then we're in trouble our real
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    religion and the thing that connects us
    28:08
    all is our blackness
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    the religion of Blackness that's it
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    God
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  6. The Problem in the USA/France/China/Brazil/Nigeria/Russia/Ukraine/Italy/South Africa or most governments in humanity  is the spread of the advertised dysfunctional universalism of the USA. I repeat the advertised dysfunctional universalism of the USA.  The USA has peddled since it was created a universalism that  doesn't exist while  has no honest attempt at implementation anywhere in humanity, including in the USA. 

    The question is what are governments afraid of? the truth, that humans being are free to hate or dislike equal to love or like. The question is, what are populaces afraid of ? IT is clear many  white people of france have never embraced the non white or non european. Why are they afraid to say it publicly? We tell children to accept themselves, why do we adults have such a problem doing it? Accepting yourself and publicly expressing yourself allows others to know how they truly stand. In parallel, what are non europeans or statians< of the usa> afraid of? IF you know someone doesn't like you but offers you an opportunity better than in your own environment, well... accept both parts of the equation? Live in the white community, go to harvard, but also accept the white children harassing your non white child, accept harvard resisting you as much as possible. I will even use a current film media reference, and say , consequences. Accept the prosequences folks, but also the consequences. Don't complain about you knew walking in.  You don't want those consequences chooe another road, with different consequences, all roads have both.

     

    ARTICLE

    Shooting, riots in France show U.S. is not alone in struggles with racism, police brutality
    World Jul 1, 2023 8:29 PM EDT
    A police killing caught on video. Protests and rioting fueled by long-simmering tensions over law enforcement treatment of minorities. Demands for accountability.

    The events in France following the death of a 17-year-old shot by police in a Paris suburb are drawing parallels to the racial reckoning in the U.S. spurred by the killings of George Floyd and other people of color at the hands of law enforcement.

    Despite the differences between the two countries’ cultures, police forces and communities, the shooting in France and the outcry that erupted there this week laid bare how the U.S. is not alone in its struggles with systemic racism and police brutality.

    “These are things that happen when you’re French but with foreign roots. We’re not considered French, and they only look at the color of our skin, where we come from, even if we were born in France,” said Tracy Ladji, an activist with SOS Racisme. “Racism within the police kills, and way too many of them embrace far-right ideas so … this has to stop.”

    In an editorial published this week, the French newspaper Le Monde wrote that the recent events “are reminiscent” of Floyd’s 2020 killing by a white Minneapolis police officer that spurred months of unrest in the U.S. and internationally, including in Paris.

    “This act was committed by a law enforcement officer, was filmed and broadcast almost live and involved an emblematic representative of a socially discriminated category,” the newspaper wrote.

    The French teen, identified only as Nahel, was shot during a traffic stop Tuesday in the Paris suburb of Nanterre. Video showed two officers at the window of the car, one with his gun pointed at the driver. As the teenager pulled forward, the officer fired once through the windshield.

    Nahel’s grandmother, who was not identified by name, told Algerian television Ennahar TV that her family has roots in Algeria.

    Preliminary charges of voluntary homicide were filed against the officer accused of pulling the trigger, though that has done little to quell the rioting that has spread across the country and led to hundreds of arrests. The officer said he feared he and his colleague or someone else could be hit by the car as Nahel attempted to flee, a prosecutor has said.

    Officials have not disclosed the race of the officer. His lawyer said he did what he thought was necessary in the moment. Speaking on French TV channel BFMTV, the lawyer said the officer is “devastated,” adding that “he really didn’t want to kill.”

    Nahel’s mother, identified only as Mounia M., told France 5 television she’s not angry at the police in general. She’s angry at the officer who killed her only child.

    “He saw an Arab-looking little kid. He wanted to take his life,” she said.

    Police shootings in France are significantly less common than in the U.S. but have been on the rise since 2017. Several experts believe that correlates with a law loosening restrictions on when officers can use lethal force against drivers after a series of terrorist attacks using vehicles.

    Officers can shoot at a vehicle when a driver fails to comply with an order and when a driver’s actions are likely to endanger their lives or those of others. French police have also been regularly criticized for their violent tactics.

    Unlike the U.S., France does not keep any data on race and ethnicity as part of its doctrine of colorblind universalism — an approach purporting to see everyone as equal citizens. Critics say that doctrine has masked generations of systemic racism.

     

    URL

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/shooting-riots-in-france-show-u-s-is-not-alone-in-struggles-with-racism-police-brutality

     

    TWO QUESTIONS OF INDEPENDENCE SIDE PHENOTYPE

     

    If the colonies did not win against the british empire does chattel slavery in the usa end? I give my opinion

    https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/10381-the-4th-of-july-2023-celebrations-why-should-we-celebrate /?do=findComment&comment=61613

     

    Many Black people who succeed in the USA suggest they are pragmatic while black people who don't succeed are not, but I don't concur to that.  I think all are pragmatic the key is in what way.
    https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/10358-dosers-and-being-african/?do=findComment&comment=61612

     

     

     

  7. @Pioneer1 I study history , and in my assessment, notice I didn't say I was right or wrong ... in my assessment your following statement is assumption. What do I know ? I know that even though the british lost the war against the colonies, they did uphold their bargain to the majority of the free black people of the british colonies, said folk who fought against the whites of the colonies. If anyone else reads this notice what I said, they fought against the whites of the colonies. The USA has in it a blood feud that too many have tried to make unreal through media but clearly exists even today. But what does that have to do with your quote Pioneer. You suggest that if britain would had won, then no war between the states. But you forget in your assessment of history, if britain would had won based on their own actions in losing and in the war of 1812 which in my view was the true end to the USA as colonies of britain going forward. Britain was always going to allow Black people in the usa to have rights equal to the whites in the usa if britain won. I don't think britain would had ended slavery but they would had universalized slavery. Meaning what. I guess, no one can know so I am not saying I am right or wrong, that if britain won, the black soldiers would had to play a key role <<it is a joke of nature that black soldiers of the french empire coming from hispanola, that would be soon haiti fought for the colonies. If Haiti had been created, before the usa, said black soldiers don't fight for the french against the british but fightffor haiti alongside britain against france side the usa, only conjecture but it fits>> and based on what britian did in losing, which the usa didn't want. Britian would had given the black soldiers land and rights, equal to any whites in the colonies. why? Ths had nothing t do with europe. Britain only wanted money from the colonies. Britain would not had minded money as long as they are getting it. Sequentially, slavery wouldn't had ended but the phenotypical bounds of slavery in masters or enslaved I think would had ended. And that would had changed human history. To be blunt, chattel slavery still goes on in the usa even, through various cult groups , so slavery never ended , cause it can't, slavery is an element of human culture, forever, the question is, who is enslaved and who is enslaving. I argue the usa becomes like the roman empire , where being enslaved or being an enslaver was polyphenotypical, it had no bounds on appearance... any human could do both. Thanks for the historical question near july 4th
  8. @Pioneer1 You made me think on labels. I realize now, and I hope I remember in the future, that the black community in the usa has two types of pragmatism, based on how I define pragmatism. Safe PRagmatism side Risky PRagmatism. Safe PRagmatism in the Black community in the usa while supported by whites has shown more results, ala the Black community in Tulsa, the modern Black 1% of rich, black elected officials in the usa, . But Risky Pragmastism in the black community in the usa while opposed by whites has produced results too. Garveyism did produce results. Black people left the usa, and started businesses. I do also think, as I have told many black militants or nationalists over the years, black militancy or black nationalism simply has no space to grow as a movement in the usa long term unless many things change in the usa, which can happen but I don't think will. To your questions involving the word we, well it is clear that many we's don't really exist
  9. hmm @Pioneer1 I love your honesty to your stance, I am a communalist. I have always opposed a few from a group growing as acceptable. But I think your position is most efficient for the black community in the usa. @ProfD well, a few getting while most not is how white people did it in NYC. The White community in NYC was never some efficient group, but rich whites led and lead positively. I don't mind the black 1 percent in africa but their lack of leading positively is what I oppose.
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  11. My thoughts to the article below

     

    I quote < “The other show is kind of mean and too grown up for me.”
     > 

    her son said a show is to grown up for him:)  How does a child know what  defines grown up when many grown up don't. Know if he would had said what his mother will not like,that shows honesty.

    I quote < what does it say that it is so much easier for my son to find wonderfully crafted television shows and films featuring talking animals than it is to find shows about kids who look like him? >
    It says that Black people with money aren't willing to spend their money to make cartoons for black people. It says that Black people had less money in the past and white people financed cartoons to be made for white people, which is perfectly acceptable. It says that Black parents need to focus on books with rearing their  kids as a ton of content has existed that has human black characters. It says white people around the world who may be asian or muslim or latino is a larger market and satisfactory. It says Black people need to tell their children they are willing to suck a white persons penis or lick a white persons vagina for opportunities but opportunities are not meant to be shared or made universal. It says that Black people from black countries like Uganda didn't use their control to make media in Uganda or other black countries that black people globally need. 

    I quote < “But where are the cartoons, Mom?” he asked. “And why does the story have to be so sad with people dying?” > 
    What the author of the article the black mom was unwilling to simply say is white people wrote most of the films, live action or television, that she cites and sequentially, their themes. But, again, a Black one percent exist, they are billionaires or millionaires. She needs to tell her son, rich black people aren't spending their money on financing black cartoons. That is why ? and asking non blacks to make media for black people is unwarranted, and non blacks don't have to care about blacks. 

    I quote < Where are the happy carefree storylines for young Black kids that white kids get? Where is the diversity of storyline and personality and genre representation that white kids get? > 
    Pick up a book, they are out there.  And again where are the black rich. Where is Oprah's money? where is Tyler Perry's studios? 

    I quote < I find it very telling that the first animated Disney movie featuring a Black woman main character and the first animated Disney movie to feature a Black man character as leads are written in such a way that both of these main characters spend a large part of their respective films in bodies that are neither Black nor even human. > 
    Yes, White people finance media for white people. As DW Griffith said, when the NAACP boycotted Birth of a nation, anyone can make whatever film they want. The NAACP wouldn't spend money on making a film as a rebuttal as if teh white jews who financed the organization would do that. But, Oscar Mischeux made films in reply. So where are the Oscar Micheaux Black directors. Comprehend, Spike Lee tells similar stories of Blac plight than disney so...

    I quote < What does it say to Black kids watching when the world’s biggest children’s entertainment company cannot give them even one animated film that features a Black person that stays a Black person throughout? What does this say about Blackness to kids who are not Black? About whose life is being portrayed as mattering? And whose does not? > 
    It says to Black kids their Black parents are stupid telling them white people will change by black merit. It says to Black kids  their Black parents don't have the power, money isn't always power, to provide them with what they need. It tells non Black kids how impotent the black community is wherever they live, which is the truth. It tells non black kids to make sure they emphasize their non black community so that it isn't like the impotent black community. It says to Black kids their black parents are lying when they talk about a human family. All humans are human but that does mean all humans are family and that is ok. 

    I quote  < When will Disney make a film with Black characters played by Black characters? Why is this so damn hard? > 
    Maybe never and that is ok. Disney was started by a white artists as an independent company. So when will Black artists who are fortunate enough to get financing for films do likewise. Black people did create BET which was a black owned media outlet but sold it to whites. So, why complain about Disney? when Oscar Micheaux proved independent movies can be made. B.E.T. proves Black people with money undercut their own community. Disney is not obliged to give concern to black people. Why are Black people with money financing what the Black community need so damn hard? It isn't like Black people with money only send people to traditional black colleges so...

    I quote < Or does Disney’s refusal to create an animated movie with Black characters who stay Black characters go beyond these three films that traffic in stereotypes and erasure and speak to larger institutional issues regarding perceptions of Blackness that behoove attention? > 
    Institutional issues? no. Disney is a white owned firm that is free to sell to all phenotypes. If non whites absorb or dream of disney , they are the fools. Don't blame disney for black people pushing disney on black children or not rearing black children better, better meaning to media that has black created content, which has always existed.

    I quote < It matters, where imagination begins in the mind. It matters whether that mind can imagine full Black personhood, or if that imagination is still constrained by unconscious bias and internalized stereotypes.> 
    Yes this is true, but film is a collective project which starts with the financier and white people have more money or power than blacks and are not beholden to satisfy black needs. Black people can take care of ourselves and if our leaders: black people with money or influence, are unwilling to lead positively or lead negatively, well such is life.

    I quote< There are a few future things in the works that I am hopeful about. Disney is set to premiere Ironheart on Disney+ in the near future, and is creating a TV show featuring Princess Tiana in 2023 with (hopefully) an eye to a less stereotypical portrayal than the earlier film. The Disney partnership with South African film company Kugali to produce Iwaju in 2022 looks promising as long as it doesn’t turn into a repeat of the single representation story, and diasporic wars where African, Afro European, and Black American creatives are pitted against each other.  > 
    Well to be fair to Black people. White tribes have wars with each other. Black tribes have wars with each other as well. And to be blunt, because Black communities the world over usually lack power, and have to beg from whites, we tend to have bitter fights cause all the communities are based on begging.

    I quote < In the meantime, my son has stopped asking to watch television. He told me the other day that he understands why I have always avoided TV and read to him instead. It is not just the wonder of imagination and language that books rather than TV provide. It is not just the vibrant storylines that inspire his own creations. As my Black son looks at his bookshelves he can see row after row of books whose covers shine with characters who look like him, whose pages are full of joyful stories about characters who look like him living their lives in full Black joy instead of the shapeshifting and death embedded into so much of mainstream American television entertainment engaging with Blackness for kids.

    My son knows now, like many Black kids in America do, that if you try to look for yourself onscreen all you will see is erasure, sometimes stereotype. He knows to look for himself on the page instead. You can find some beautiful things there, if you try. > 
    In my view, this passage should had been the whole article. All this about what white man isn't doing for Black people is for me worthless. Yes, Whites don't like Blacks. Blacks don't like Whites. And just because the financially wealthiest Black people are reared to cater to whites doesn't mean the financially poorest Black people want to. 
     

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    Disney's Disembodied Black Characters

    March 23, 2021   •   By Hope Wabuke

     

    ONCE A YEAR, from the first year of middle school until I graduated from high school, my orchestra would board the yellow school district buses along with our instruments and drive the 45-minute winding route through the San Gabriel mountains from Arcadia to Anaheim, California, to perform at Disneyland. After 30 minutes of rehearsal and another 30-minute performance, we were given free rein to wander the park until closing, when the busses would drive us home.

    I knew even then that what we had was not usual; it was a privilege to experience what we experienced growing up in that tiny southern California town, miles and years away from the tiny black and white missionary TV screen in Uganda where my parents had first spied the Disney movies that had made them imagine America a wonderful, magical place. 

    What we had in Arcadia, home to one of the top public school districts in the state, were the perks that went along with that education. But what we also had to go along with it — being one of the first Black families to move to that city, and usually the only Black student in my class — was the racism: being followed in stores, ordered to pay before dining in restaurants, being told we were the color of “poop” by teachers, and never seeing anyone who looked like us in the books we read in school. This is the Black experience in America when your hardworking Black parents are determined to get you the best education they can. It’s an abundance of opportunity, but only if you learn to survive within the boundaries of acceptable racism.

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    My wealthy non-Black classmates loved wandering around the grounds of Disneyland, a place they were familiar with from regular family visits throughout the year. I was not. With the price tag at $100 per person, my family of eight people had been to Disneyland only once — with family friends from out of town when they came to visit. To prepare for the $1,000 excursion, my father had put our family on a budget for half a year, and we had packed backpacks full of lunch and dinner. We were warned there would be no souvenirs so we shouldn’t even try it.

    As someone unaccustomed to its scope, Disneyland was big and overwhelming for me. But as performers in the student orchestra — both guests and employees, to some extent — we were privy to the back lots and back entrances of the park that regular visitors didn’t see — the backstage bones of the glossy stages and rides, the stacked up piles of recycled parts of shuttered amusements and worn-out characters. We were forbidden to take pictures here — it was not public Disney; it did not hold the myth of Disney perfection and magic. But I liked thinking that we alone had this secret knowledge of a place that was familiar to so many. We were part of the select few who saw what was denied public view.

    Once, I was told this same story about the man himself, Walt Disney: the reason that most of  the candid photos of Walt Disney throughout the park showed his fingers shaped in a V was because he smoked cigarettes and didn’t want to be seen doing so. But this private truth did not align with his desired public image; the cigarettes had to be airbrushed out.

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    In the middle of last summer, trying to understand the new balance of homeschooling and remote working in the pandemic, I gave in to my seven-year-old’s requests and let him have half an hour of screen time in the evenings. But being a Black parent who was once a Black girl and well aware of the horrific absence and equally horrific stereotypical and token representations of Blackness on television that I have seen, I told him that he could only watch a TV show if it had a main character who looked like him. Within that guideline, he could choose whatever age-appropriate show he wanted. He wanted cartoons, and so he began his search with those constraints. But within five minutes, he came to me in tears. We had subscriptions to am*zon Prime and Netflix, and he had searched both for Black characters in kids shows. He had found nothing.

    I sat down, pulled him onto my lap and cuddled him until his tears eased. When he was soothed enough, I picked the remote up from the floor and typed in “Black kids cartoons” on Netflix. The only thing that came up was Motown Magic, which he had already seen. I tried “African American kids cartoons.” Nothing else. “Black kids shows,” “African American kids shows” had nothing else in his age range, but a couple of live action shows aimed at the tween and teenage crowd.  I tried am*zon Prime, which was even more of a desert. Searches there brought up Orphan Black and Black Mirror instead.

    My son was growing impatient. “Mommy, isn’t there anything?” he called, tears eased and now bouncing on his trampoline. “Not yet,” I called back, scrolling through endless titles of movies without any Black characters in them. And then I recalled a passing conversation about the launch of Disney Plus with a fellow mom friend.

    “Doc McStuffins!” I exclaimed loudly, remembering the patron saint of Black parents everywhere, as I ordered Disney Plus. Among the little Black girl doctor and her talking toys, my son was happy for most of the year. I thanked God for Chris Nee, McStuffins’s wonderful creator, every day of 2020. And then, just in time for winter break, he asked for something else.

    “Did you finish Doc McStuffins?” I asked.

    “No, I just want to watch something else for a while,” he said. But we couldn’t find any other cartoon show on Disney Plus that featured Black kids as main characters. So we watched an episode of Vampirina, another of Nee’s creations, this one about a vampire family living amongst human neighbors in contemporary Philadelphia. But I was uneasy at the danger made cute, uneasy with Nee’s portrayal of the mythical bloodsucking vampire-as-monster-as-outsider equated to the outsiderness of the Black girl as outsider.

    Networks are so proud of each of their few Black kids shows, it seems, that they forget two things:

     

    That kids will watch the show and then want to watch something else.

     

    That Black kids have a diversity of tastes, and, beyond that, they grow up. One show can’t appeal to all Black kids from age three to 16. And why should we expect it to, even if it could?

     


    Searching further on Disney, we found Moana, which my son watched because Moana was brownish like him he said, and Elena of Avalor because she was also kind of brownish and went to school with a brownish kid who looked kind of like him.  

    But nothing else.

    “What about these ones? I said, selecting the 2009 animated feature The Princess and The Frog and The Proud Family.

    “I already looked, Mom. The girl isn’t really there; she’s a green frog most of the time,” he sighed. “The other show is kind of mean and too grown up for me.”

    I searched and searched the network. Nothing. Finally, I had an idea.

    “Animals!” I exclaimed. “You can watch a show if there are animals.”

    My son’s face brightened. He returned to Netflix and selected Octonauts, a delightful show about animals from diverse regions of the world who work together to help other animals, teaching science along the way. Then there were Puffin Rock and Peppa Pig. And, of course, the entire Disney collection of talking animal content. The animal cartoons were fascinating and endless in their diversity and skillful edutainment. My son has yet to run out of new animal show options on the streaming services we have.

    But I wonder: what does it say that it is so much easier for my son to find wonderfully crafted television shows and films featuring talking animals than it is to find shows about kids who look like him?

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    Last fall, when the studios and networks rolled out their kids holiday fare, it was more of the same: the absence of Blackness. The most promising of the offerings was Netflix’s Jingle Jangle, which is quite lovely and which my son enjoyed. He appreciated the live action musical magic in the tradition of Disney’s own Mary Poppins.

    “But where are the cartoons, Mom?” he asked. “And why does the story have to be so sad with people dying?”

    I thought about my son’s questions. I had no answers, only the same questions about entertainment for Black adults, and the saturation of images of Black pain rather than Black joy. The heaviness I feel in my soul when yet another studio markets its slave film (or other narrative of historical Black oppression) as the “Black movie” release of the year is the same heaviness in my son’s soul at these kid’s movies that traffic in Black sadness and Black death.

    True, films like Netflix’s Jingle Jangle and Disney’s The Lion King and the Princess and the Frog are in line with the loss-of-parent narrative that’s part of the blueprint for this kind of children’s storytelling, harkening all the way back to Disney’s Golden Age. But the impact of that loss-of-parent narrative resonates much more loudly when looking at animated Disney films with Black content because of the very small number of animated films and television that feature Black protagonists at all.

    You see, all animated Disney films featuring Black protagonists have either a dead parent or the death of the protagonist as a plot point; however, there are many animated Disney films with non-Black characters where parents and protagonists escape this deathly trope simply because of the sheer numbers of Disney films made with non-Black protagonists. This lack of representation creates a single story of Blackness, predicated on death and sadness.

    And, because of history, because of the way race and power work in a society where we are already saturated with images of Black death and anti-Black violence — consider how many times the deaths of unarmed Black children like Tamir Rice and unarmed Black men like Eric Garner and George Floyd were replayed across media channels versus the genteel blurring out of the death of Ashli Babbitt, the white woman insurrectionist who died while storming the Capitol in January 2021 — the death of Black parents in Disney films operates in a much different way than the death of non-Black parents in Disney films. Simply put: for every death of non-Black parents depicted in Disney films like Frozen, there are many, many other Disney films with non-Black protagonists in which the parents do not die, in which death is not a major plot point; in which the non-Black characters are allowed happiness and joy. And when that death does occur, it is not amplified in the real world by the media’s disregard for the sanctity of Black life.

    Where are the happy carefree storylines for young Black kids that white kids get? Where is the diversity of storyline and personality and genre representation that white kids get? Whiteness gets multiplicity — of storyline, genre, medium, a multiplicity of films and television shows that speak to a multiplicity of age ranges and interests — all represented by white characters. Snow White. Cinderella. Beauty and the Beast. 101 Dalmatians. The Flight of the Navigator. E.T.. How to Tame Your Dragon. My Little Pony: Equestria Girls. The Incredibles. Kim Possible. WildKrats. Toy Story. Frozen. Frozen II. Inside Out. Tangled. Brave. Sarah and Duck. Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs. Peter Pan. Pete’s Dragon. Alice in Wonderland. Sleeping Beauty. The Little Mermaid. The Sword in the Stone. Robin Hood. The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh. Pete’s Dragon. James and the Giant Peach. Hercules. Doug’s First Movie. Recess: School’s Out. Return to Neverland. Treasure Planet. Meet the Robinsons. Enchanted. Tinkerbell and the Great Fairy Rescue. The Cat in the Hat. Sofia the First. Boss Baby. Masha and the Bear. Johnny Test. The Lorax. Dennis the Menace. Ben and Charlie’s Little Kingdom. The Magic School Bus. And on and on.

    Blackness gets Doc McStuffins.

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    My freshman year of high school, our annual performance at Disneyland coincided with a live recording session of a Disney film soundtrack. Because we were members of one of the best high school orchestras in the state, the staff said, we were to be given a special treat: a walk-through of the recording soundstages. Quiet, in the audience, we stood and watched the musicians’ bows rising and falling across their strings in unison. Onscreen, the young lion I would come to know as Simba was roaring his pain at the death of his father. I would, of course, also come to know the film as The Lion King, Disney’s first modern foray — however anthropomorphized — into engaging with Black culture on the big screen. The Disney orchestra soared. So did I.

    The story, of course, since it engages with Blackness in some way, was about family disintegration and death. But still, I remember the crackling energy pervading my childhood home in the days preceding the film’s release, the excitement of going to see it in the theatre with my whole family, so starved for representations of Blackness, let alone Africa in film. I remember my African parents’ happiness and pride in seeing something like home shining across the screen.

    The hunger for representations of Blackness in Disney films was not just felt in my family, but in families across the world. To date, The Lion King is the highest grossing traditionally animated Disney movie of all time. But back in 1994, Disney couldn’t imagine that this success could be repeated by making more Black stories, perhaps even with people, rather than animals. Instead, the studio just made more Lion King. We have seen The Lion King as Broadway musical, as a touring production, as a television show, as a live action remake starring the voices — but never the Black bodies of course — of the nation’s most iconic and brilliant Black performers.

    Indeed, it would be another 15 years before Disney made another feature based on Black culture — and the first Disney film ostensibly to revolve around actual Black characters. But Tiana, Disney’s first Black animated protagonist, would be onscreen for just about 40 minutes. More shockingly, she would be drawn as a Black woman for just 17 of those minutes. Most of the time, as you probably know, Tiana is a frog.

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    Some of us, like I am, are old enough to remember the public call for a Black Disney princess throughout the 1980s, 1990s, and 2000s that pushed a reluctant Disney into making The Princess and The Frog in the first place. However, the representations of Blackness in Princess Tiana’s world were problematic from the beginning. Set in the 1920s South — the height of the Jazz Age, but also Jim Crow — Princess Tiana, accounts of that time report, was originally conceived as a servant character with strong echoes of slavery in characterization and naming. Indeed, her original name “Maddy” sounded very close to the Mammy slave stereotype applied to Black women.

    Although Tiana’s character was rewritten as a waitress rather than a servant, this original vision is still evident in the opening scenes of the film, when Tiana’s mother pays little attention to her daughter and focuses all her attention and dialogue in caring for Tiana’s white girl friend. Here, too, in this opening, Tiana’s white girl friend is introduced before Tiana and dominates the first scenes of the film with verbosity and energy. Tiana is silent and ignored in the background.

    The dynamic is clear: here is the centering of the white character and the depiction of Tiana’s mother acting as a mammy character to the white child, while ignoring her own — a stereotype of Black motherhood that was set during Jim Crow but has roots embedded in American slavery.

    But it is not just the opening racial dynamics and cinematic choices of the film that sets Tiana’s portrayal differently than any of Disney’s other non-Black princesses, or even main characters. Nor, again, is it just the fact that the Black body of Princess Tiana appears so little in her film: 17 minutes out of the film’s 98 minute runtime.

    It is that so much of Tiana’s film is created through a white gaze that looks to diminish, rather than celebrate the beauty of Black womanhood, or even Blackness in general. Instead of the expected cute and cuddly Disney animal character that always accompanies a Disney hero, there is only the worst of the buck-toothed minstrel stereotypes in the firefly that adopts Tiana; instead of a magical and charming fairy godmother there is only the worst stereotypes of the bugaboo African witch doctor; and everywhere, everywhere is the ridiculing of the Black body with the obsessive attention to all the characters’ overexaggerated buttocks, a stereotype used to portray Blackness since Saartje Bartmaan was kidnapped from South Africa and exhibited onstage in European zoos in order for white audiences to gawk at her physiology. It’s not just a question, in other words, of Tiana’s relative visibility as a Black princess; it’s about the whole swamp she’s got to wade through in order to be seen at all.

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    Soul, Disney’s ethnic animated kid’s film for this winter season, is unique among animated Disney movies in that the central characters are adults rather than children, with children sprinkled sparingly throughout the film. Also of note is the much more adult subject matter of the film: the inciting incident of the narrative is that the main character dies. Soul follows what happens after that death. More typical is the message of the film: the classic cinematic stereotype of the Black male character desperately trying to save the life of a white woman, the character 22 played by Tina Fey, to the point that the Black man sacrifices his “life” doing so. And the other message of Soul? Accept that you are going to die and don’t try to fight your fate. Yet neither of these themes seem particularly uplifting to children in the style of the Disney brand that exists when dealing with non-Black characters.

    Like The Princess and The Frog, Soul begins as a promising premise showcasing some brilliant Black actors. However, like Princess Tiana, Soul’s Joe Gardner is immediately characterized by a burning desire to work. Even the character’s last name is a type of job. Tiana and Joe, unlike other non-Black Disney characters who are given other motivations — falling in love, self-discovery, or saving the world — are only represented by the labor their Black bodies can provide, another stereotype of Blackness.

    But the most damaging representation is this: like The Princess and The Frog’s Black protagonist, Soul’s Black lead spends a good deal of the movie not in a Black body, but represented as a blue ghost object without the Black ethnic facial features that characterize the him when in his physical form. And then, Joe Gardner’s Black body is inhabited by 22, the spirit of the character voiced by white actress Tina Fey. Joe, on the other hand, is put in the body of a cat. In other words, the Black body is colonized by whiteness while the Black character’s “soul” is put into the body of an animal — because it’s Disney and Black people are only equal to animals — before eventually choosing to sacrifice his life for 22, the white woman.

    I find it very telling that the first animated Disney movie featuring a Black woman main character and the first animated Disney movie to feature a Black man character as leads are written in such a way that both of these main characters spend a large part of their respective films in bodies that are neither Black nor even human.

    Green, blue — Disney has no problem with characters that are different colors, it seems, as long as that color is not brown.

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    What does it say to Black kids watching when the world’s biggest children’s entertainment company cannot give them even one animated film that features a Black person that stays a Black person throughout? What does this say about Blackness to kids who are not Black? About whose life is being portrayed as mattering? And whose does not?

    This is how bias and harmful stereotypes are created and perpetuated in society. This is how whiteness protects whiteness and thus a system of white supremacy through media representation: by normalizing itself as human and othering Blackness through erasure and dehumanization. Whether conscious or unconscious, this bias and adherence to white supremacy and Black erasure and dehumanization is real and damaging.

    And no matter how much I try, I still cannot understand why Disney — a groundbreaking company predicated on reveling in the imagination, a company whose creative products are so well-known for their tremendous ability to invest animals with human characteristics and deep wells of pathos in order to center intimate storytelling against epic themes — does nothing but relegate Black characters to animals and objects, mining stories of Black suffering and death when Black kids deal with enough violence, often based on race, in the real world.

    When will Disney make a film with Black characters played by Black characters? Why is this so damn hard?

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    In 1937, Walt Disney Animation Studios released its first full-length animated film: Snow White. As the film’s cost grew to $1.5 million over its three-year production period, Walt Disney mortgaged his house to put up the remaining financing. His financial gamble worked: Snow White was an artistic and commercial success. Disney’s groundbreaking form of storytelling captured the hearts and imagination of children and adults alike and grossed $8 million in revenue at the box office, the most money ever made by a film up to that time. Snow White was quickly followed by Pinocchio, Fantasia, Dumbo, and Bambi, the films now known as Disney’s Golden Age.

    One of the cornerstones of the Disney entertainment phenomenon is the understanding of how an irrepressible visual imagination and sonic landscape are vital in creating lush children’s entertainment that draws viewers in and has them humming songs from the films afterwards. By the mid 1940s, the Walt Disney team had perfected this structure, setting a bar that has led the industry for decades.

    Simply put, Disney stories and Disney songs are iconic in our culture.

    So as we think about questions of representation, this includes looking not just at how few films with Black characters are made by Disney, but also looking behind the camera at the creative team. Who are the creatives involved in these projects? The writers and composers trusted to create for the Disney brand?

    For Soul, the sonic landscape of the film was created by the wonderfully talented Trent Reznor, best known for his band Nine Inch Nails, who, along with Atticus Ross, composed the score. Black American musician Jon Batiste was brought on to provide the singing “voice” of Joe Gardner’s piano, the same way the luminous Anika Noni Rose was the “voice” of Princess Tiana. This was considered progress from The Lion King’s casting of white American actor Jonathan Taylor Thomas to play the young version of the Simba, the African hero, and white American actor Mathew Broderick to play the adult version. White American actress Moira Kelly was the voice of Nala, the female African lion who is Simba’s love interest.

    As with Soul, for The Princess and The Frog, Disney again tapped another white male composer to head the team in Randy Newman. And for The Lion King, we remember Elton John’s and Hans Zimmer’s glorious soundtrack, an art object in its own right.

    These artists are brilliant. That is unquestionable.

    The question is this: Despite the stunning reputations and work of these white composers, with all the Black jazz and soul musicians out there; with the invention of rock, country and jazz music by Black artists, the erasure of Blackness and co-option by whites of the first two art forms; with the financial imbalance in which white artists and labels took advantage of Black artists, whether predatory contracts in the 1960s and 1970s or Black soul musician Lady A getting her name stolen by the band formerly known as Lady Antebellum this past year; with this history of marginalization of Black creatives and in this political climate, doesn’t this sonic whitewashing just seem like there is so much potential for diverse representation, wasted?

    Or does Disney’s refusal to create an animated movie with Black characters who stay Black characters go beyond these three films that traffic in stereotypes and erasure and speak to larger institutional issues regarding perceptions of Blackness that behoove attention?

    One wonders: if the very accomplished white writing team of John Musker and Ron Clements, who after criticism about their treatment of race in the film, brought on the gifted Black writer Rob Edwards to help pen The Princess and The Frog, had also included a Black woman on the script about the first Black woman Disney protagonist, or an eye that valued Black woman the same way white women are valued in our society, would we perhaps have seen a less stereotypical representation of the first Black Disney princess that was more in line with the value and care shown to the other lighter-skinned Disney princesses in the Disney story canon, for example? Or, if the creators had thought as intentionally about Blackness before creating this story as they did with the creation of Moana’s Oceanic Story Trust, could there have been a different result as well? Or if a Black creator had been allowed to imagine Tiana and her world from the ground up, rather than slapping a Black perspective on the film as a hasty afterthought — a quick fix band-aid to solve the racist undertones of the film when the problems were not just skin deep?

    And if Soul, too, had also begun with a Black writer creating a storyline rather than white screenwriters Pete Doctor and Mike Jones again bringing on a Black American writer (this time Kemp Powers) two years into the project to add authenticity and perspective of character to a fundamentally problematic idea, could Soul have been a more positive representation of Blackness without unconscious bias and stereotypes?

    It matters, where imagination begins in the mind. It matters whether that mind can imagine full Black personhood, or if that imagination is still constrained by unconscious bias and internalized stereotypes.

    “We quickly came across this idea of a story about a soul who doesn’t want to die meeting a soul that doesn’t want to live,” said Mike Jones in an interview with Awards Daily from February 2021. “I think the very first version, he was an actor, and he had gotten his big break on Broadway. He was going to play Willy Loman in Death of a Salesman, and we thought that was just so clever but we just didn’t feel it. As soon as we came up with the idea that he should be a jazz musician, the idea of wrapping jazz and the improvisational nature of jazz was just so electric that we decided to make him a jazz musician. And let’s make him a middle school band teacher who aspires to something greater. That naturally led to the idea that he should be a middle-aged Black man, and that’s when we brought Kemp Powers in.”

    Because of the complexity of the Black experience in America, stories that may read as neutral with a white main character can become, like Soul, problematic when the race of that character is changed from white to Black and the narrative is not rethought accordingly. For example, take Soul’s idea of putting a white character into the body of a Black man. Or Soul’s idea of a Black man’s soul being put into an animal. Where whiteness in America does not have a tradition of being violently colonized and enslaved, Blackness does. Where whiteness in America doesn’t have a racially loaded history of being compared to animals in a dehumanizing way, Blackness does. And suddenly, a plot point that seemed innocuous when envisioning the character as white, becomes part of a larger tradition of whiteness violating and dehumanizing the Black body, begun with American slavery.

    It is not just enough to change a character’s race; when changing race, the narrative has to be re-envisioned accordingly in line with a character’s positioning in society. For Black folks in America, race informs so much of our experiences in life; to ignore this when creating a narrative of Black life is to practice a white-centered misconception of “colorblindness” that denies the full humanity of our personhood.

    And nothing makes this misrepresentation clearer than Soul’s animation, which erases Joe Gardner’s Black ethnic features in the afterlife, effectively saying that the default representation of human, of a soul, is whiteness.

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    There are a few future things in the works that I am hopeful about. Disney is set to premiere Ironheart on Disney+ in the near future, and is creating a TV show featuring Princess Tiana in 2023 with (hopefully) an eye to a less stereotypical portrayal than the earlier film. The Disney partnership with South African film company Kugali to produce Iwaju in 2022 looks promising as long as it doesn’t turn into a repeat of the single representation story, and diasporic wars where African, Afro European, and Black American creatives are pitted against each other. Mama K’s Team 4, a Zimbabwean cartoon, is set to premier on Netflix in 2022. And our most promising discovery: the Kweli TV app, which curates Black content from around the world with shows like Bino & Fino, a cartoon featuring two kids from Nigeria who, my son says, look exactly like him.

    In the meantime, my son has stopped asking to watch television. He told me the other day that he understands why I have always avoided TV and read to him instead. It is not just the wonder of imagination and language that books rather than TV provide. It is not just the vibrant storylines that inspire his own creations. As my Black son looks at his bookshelves he can see row after row of books whose covers shine with characters who look like him, whose pages are full of joyful stories about characters who look like him living their lives in full Black joy instead of the shapeshifting and death embedded into so much of mainstream American television entertainment engaging with Blackness for kids.

    My son knows now, like many Black kids in America do, that if you try to look for yourself onscreen all you will see is erasure, sometimes stereotype. He knows to look for himself on the page instead. You can find some beautiful things there, if you try.

    My son’s basket of to-read books contain his current four favorites: Dragons in a Bag, Hi-Lo, Obi & Titi, and The Adventures of Mia Mayhem. In these books, like the others on his bookshelf, Black joy and Black life are embraced. And any of these would make amazing television or cinematic content.

    Take Dragons in a Bag, the first book in a series about Black kids and dragons in Brooklyn written by the wonderful Zetta Elliot. Or Hi-Lo, Judd Winick’s alien robot who saves the world with his best friends — a Black girl with magical powers and an Asian boy who breaks gender stereotypes to spread love rather than violence. Or Obi & Titi, O.T. Begho’s tales of a Black boy and girl racing through magical adventures in Nigeria. Or the Mia Mayhem series, Kara West’s thrilling adventures of a Black girl superhero in a long lineage of superheroes. These books are amazing, well written stories with nuanced representations of character. And guess what?

    No one Black dies in these books. And no one Black turns into a frog, a ghostly blue object, or anything else that is not Black for some corporation’s bizarre mindset that still believes that seeing Black faces onscreen for 120 minutes is too much.

    They stay Black kids the whole time.

     

    URL

    https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/disneys-disembodied-black-characters/

  12. @Pioneer1ahh well I guess I was merely fortunate. well, the village will get better eventually
  13. @Pioneer1 What is it about non violent personal accountability that hasn't convinced many black people to embrace it as you will like? While your first point I can not say i concur to completely, this point is massive, a functional truth. The DOSers used to have multiple dialects of english BUT DOSers themselves neglected it. Ala the words of langston hughes, black graduates from historical black colleges or white ones who littered the NAACP for example. The only language I can think of that black DOSers created in the past that remains alive is Black Sign Language. Am I wrong in your experience?
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  15. Many people in the usa are complaining about the supreme court's rulings as if the supreme court didn't make rulings that upended centuries of prior conditions. Making rulings that upend fifty years worth of rulings isn't as devastating. 

    But the key here is state power. The future USA will be based on gangs of states in its fold. Those who try to fight that coming reality are fools. 

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      To me for a long while the issue is the usa is a collection of states, that are legally free and are intended to be dissimilar. These surpreme court rulings are simply allowing all the states to control their own destinies more. I live in New York States. Women are free to have an abortion in NY State. All the parts of lgbtq+ are free to express themselves and are protected in NY State. Schools in NY State are all free to use race. These rulings aren't stopping any state from acting in any way it wants. But these rulings allow all states to be what their majority populaces want them to be. Majority should rule. I argue for black folk who felt they could stand alone in mississippi , well maybe its time for them to leave mississippi? https://aalbc.com/tc/profile/6477-richardmurray/?status=2364&type=status

  16. September 13, 2022 https://aalbc.com/tc/profile/6477-richardmurray/?status=2064&type=status I stated that the Black community was incorrect to itself concerning education. In this very same forum, how often have Black folk complained about a so called lack of education among our own. A demand for this and that in terms of goals in the education system in the USA which black people never controlled or administered in majority. And yes, it matters when someone not black is governing Black people. Said someone is a fellow human but that includes their human dislikes or desires that don't go alongside other humans. Recently I used simple proof that the black community has to stop chiding itself as impotent concerning the issue of voting when white people themselves assessing the whole landscape admit all communities are doing as the black community. Now the legal system of NYC that pushed charter schools into Harlem, supported by most black elected officials or black churches or the black business owning class, because black kids were touted as abysmal failures, which was and is a lie, has tiptoed and found every path possible to not treat a white tribe of orthodox white jews like the black tribe known as Descended of Enslaved. I heard black women, black elected officials criminalize black children as lazy, as disgruntled, as disrespecting their ancestors, while a horde of white children in the same city are being allowed to have an absent educational record. But what is the issue? it isn't the children. It is the parents. The white jewish parents gained power and then used power to raise their kids as they want, even going completely against the rules supposedly for all. While the Black parents are unwilling to admit their impotency and enslaved mindset to their children while demanding their children uphold the false idol of financial positive mobility in the united states of america, which the black parents know full well is a lie. Shame on the black parent. Shame on the black community. We all have supported or lived by at one point or another this idea that our future generations have to reach some goal, make the usa some thing. In NYC, while Black kids were being criminalized for not being 100% as individuals or as a collective in an educational assessment that wasn't the true problem of the black kids, white kids were protected and reared by their parents in the same city to be free of concern for the same system. Black parents shut up and gain power. Black business owners, shut up and take over other firms. The Black community in the usa goes on and on all the time about what the youth need to do. No the adults need to do whatever it takes to gain real power and that includes violence, or shut up and let the youth live as they will cause the whites in this country are using their power to make their children's lives as happy as can be while as free from any condemnation even when they can't read. City determines 18 yeshivas not meeting standards By Jillian Jorgensen New York City PUBLISHED 3:40 PM ET Jun. 30, 2023 The city has determined that four Orthodox yeshivas are failing to provide an education “substantially equivalent” to what’s offered in public schools — and recommends the state reach the same conclusion for another 14 yeshivas the city says are ultimately under state authority. The findings are the results of a long-stalled and politically thorny investigation that has stretched on since 2015. The city found that just seven schools they investigated met standards. That’s in addition to two it found were up to standards in 2019. What You Need To Know The city has determined that four Orthodox yeshivas are failing to provide an education “substantially equivalent” to what’s offered in public schools — and recommends the state reach the same conclusion for another 14 yeshivas the city says are ultimately under state authority The findings are the results of a long-stalled and politically thorny investigation that has stretched on since 2015. The city found that just seven schools they investigated met standards. That’s in addition to two it found were up to standards in 2019 The city says it could not make a final determination in the case of the 14 schools because of an amendment that gives the state education commissioner the power to make final determinations for schools that meet certain requirements The investigation was spurred by a complaint from a group called Young Advocates for a Fair Education, or YAFFED, headed at the time by a yeshiva graduate who argued his education left him ill-prepared for the world outside of religious studies The city says it could not make a final determination in the case of the 14 schools because of an amendment introduced in 2018 by state Sen. Simcha Felder, which gives the state education commissioner the power to make final determinations for schools that meet certain requirements, like having a bilingual program. For that reason, the ruling is not final for those 14 schools, and the recommendations will not be made public. State Education Commissioner Betty Rosa had ordered the city Department of Education to complete the inquiry — which, in 2019, the city Department of Investigation ruled had been delayed by former Mayor Bill de Blasio’s administration for political purposes — by today. The investigation was spurred by a complaint from a group called Young Advocates for a Fair Education, or YAFFED, headed at the time by a yeshiva graduate who argued his education left him ill-prepared for the world outside of religious studies. YAFFED and other critics argue many so-called ultra-Orthodox yeshivas provide little to no secular instruction, particularly for boys, and instead focus on religious studies. Representatives of the schools have pushed back strenuously on those claims. The schools are private, but do receive some state funding and, like all private schools in New York, are required to provide children with an education “substantially equivalent” to what is offered in public schools. The investigation kicked off a debate of what exactly substantially equivalent means, prompting the state to develop rules for determining it. The rules, adopted in September, subject non-public schools to review by local school districts — in New York City, the DOE — to determine if they meet criteria like having a competent teacher provide instruction, offering classes in English, math, science and social studies, and that lessons are provided to children with limited English proficiency to help them learn English. The investigation, and the guidelines from the state, kicked off massive outcry from Orthodox groups, who have characterized them as an attack on religious liberty. In an interim report released in 2019, the DOE reported that just two of 28 yeshivas were meeting standards, and that some were not allowing the city access to conduct reviews. Critics have long argued the city dragged its feet in the investigation to avoid angering the Orthodox community, which is politically influential in the city. And in 2019, the Department of Investigation determined that the mayor’s office delayed the release of the preliminary report in exchange for support of the extension of mayoral control of city schools. In a statement provided to NY1 on Friday, the group Parents for Educational and Religious Liberty said the “outcomes of yeshiva education are on display every day across New York: in the successful business and professional careers of tens of hundreds of thousands yeshiva graduates and in the law abiding and loving families they are raising here.” "PEARLS rejects the attempt to measure the efficacy of yeshiva education by applying a skewed set of technical requirements,” the group said. “Utilizing a government checklist devised and enforced by lawyers may help explain the state of public education. It is designed to obscure rather than illuminate the beauty and success of yeshiva education.” “Parents choose yeshiva education for their children because of the religious, moral and educational philosophy and approach of those who lead yeshivas,” it added. “They will continue to do so, regardless of how many government lawyers try to insist that yeshiva education is best measured by checklists they devise rather than the lives yeshiva graduates lead." URL https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/news/2023/06/30/new-york-city-yeshiva-investigation-findings So besides suggesting falsely that Black children are failing, what do you have to say?
  17. To the coverage, it is very gentle. I wonder how many whites read Jet? Cause while the article comes to the conclusion that babies from interracial relationships are not any better than babies from monoracial relationships, it speaks to interracial relationships themselves very congenially. Speaking of Booker T washington/Frederick Douglass/The Dumas's or other you will think all or most interracial relationships were positive, not rapes or one sided. It also doesn't state a difference between being born from two who don't have the same phentoypical range of skin or being born from parents of the same phenotypical range while one's skin is between the range labeled black and the other range labeled white. It was unwilling to embrace the complexities of race.
  18. @Mel Hopkins positive Black policy in the USA, My answer below to your post is the most functional answer, absent going into any detail. If you are still unclear , I will try to restate. And for the record, I stated this idea as not my agenda or personal plan. The idea I mentioned is not something I personally support but feel is the best thing for the black community in NYC to do. please link the post to your post I already have my answer, which I will comment on your post. with the following. Black party of governance overview https://aalbc.com/tc/profile/6477-richardmurray/?status=1945&type=status Forum talk https://aalbc.com/tc/profile/6477-richardmurray/?status=1890&type=status Black people complaigning forever but somehow it never happens https://aalbc.com/tc/profile/6477-richardmurray/?status=2137&type=status The potential definition of Black in the modern usa has added more challenges https://aalbc.com/tc/profile/6477-richardmurray/?status=2124&type=status @ProfD fair enough, @Mel Hopkins asked a while back what was a plan, I answered in this community but away from her post. you said the following which relates to the issue of solutions in this threat. the only way an elected official in the two major parties can be held accountable in the usa is by voting them out but the problem is, how long can any people vote people out before they get tired of voting people out. The assumption is, that if voters vote people out quality people will come in, that assumption is a lie which even the white community in the usa shows. So Profd! you are in front of a million black men, what is your solution to the problem? If you don't have one , think of one.
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