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  1. @frankster Its funny, i have thought about that phrase that many black people in the usa like to utter a lot in modernity . I realize now this juneteenth that it is not good enough. Many black people like to say we are not monolithic while same black people like to proselytize to black people who are variant from them. I personally have never believed any black people are incorrect. The founding of the usa, i repeat had three black tribes in the black village, which predates the usa, like the white or indigenous : enslaved to whites/free fighting for the creation of the usa aside whites/free fighting against the creation of the usa aside whites. Yes, black people's heritage in the usa is to not be monolithic but the details or what is most important is deeper than that. The original three black tribes in the black village in the usa had unconnectable goals/views/desires while a nonviolent approach to each other, while the white tribes in the white village in the usa historically are very violent to each other but have connectable goals/views/desires. This juneteenth i am making a pledge which I will state here beforehand, to focus on my tribe in the village in the usa, and blacks outside the usa , with the black community outside the usa in various governments really in scenarios different than in the usa. as for tribes not my own, I will do my best to support them to be for themselves, and stop all tribes from proselytizing, which i will end as well. Black nonviolence to each other has bred a preaching way in which black people with opinions or views to variant to connect end up trying to convince each other. and to that end you asked I am not of your tribe. I have already stated my opposition to the path that Cornel West is about. All black people want betterment for black people but in the usa the paths of the tribes are not the same and can not combine. I will answer what is the best reason in my view for a black person in the usa like you to vote for a candidate in the usa ? Simple, you believe in the usa, you have faith in its laws, you dream and desire what its nascent documents have alluded to. So you have to participate even if you have no candidate that provides a platform you can connect to. I will only suggest, black people like you need to put yourselves on the ballot when you don't have a candidate, cause sometimes no candidate exists and if no one going for a post has a platform functional enough to you , then you can't expect that position in government to have anyone functional. I know what my triibe in the usa wants and I have no doubts now that it isn't any elected officials in the usa. The key is for my tribe to succeed in its goals regardless of other tribes.
  2. @frankster to cornel west, we will all see. I think you should sign up to be part of his campaign. You seem to support him very strongly. As for the black community, we differ on viewing or interpreting the relationship of the black community to the usa or the european colonies that preceded.. The best news about that is, it is a heritage for the black community in the usa to schism over its relationship to the usa. And going into juneteenth, that maybe is the one thing most black people in the usa have a hard time accepting. That while the black community has always had varying camps on the relationship of black people to the usa, none of those camps are in the wrong or incorrect. The only question is which camp do you belong to and how best are you in going forward to where your camp wants to be.
  3. @frankster Re-introduce, again, that part is very flawed for me. It is introduction, not reintroduction. Reintroduction suggest a lie Frankster, don't you see. It is like the so called harlem renaissance, it wasn't a renaissance. A rebirth suggest their was a time before where the black community had a great rise in harlem, but it didn't. And so he suggest something is going to force such a distribution when the usa has never had a distribution of resources to reach equality.. To me the issue isn't a matter of visioning the seemingly impossible, but a disrespectful lack of explaining the process needed for an undertaking as stopping all wars. When someone claims they will stop wars but have no process or path but make it seem like they will simply make a law , in the usa, the most militaristically potent government on earth .. well.. ok I did say , print money at the end. ok, but ... it isn't the most finessed plan. I wonder what the arms dealers will say about that. Bad leadership is still leadership, it is merely bad. But, my problem is Cornell west like many third party candidates speaks little on the solutions and alot on the goals. And he can't even utilize an example of his solution making skill on a smaller scale. I know west isn't running to win the presidency but again, third parties ahhh well, to be blunt, I don't know. I think many black people are but I , unlike you, are not certain that all are. I think in the black community, going to juneteenth our community has created a myth about what is good for all black people in context to the usa, that hasn't been proven to be true, at least not to me.
  4. Below is a comment I made on ProfD's post @ProfD yeah I heard. Again, why is it 99% of the third parties in the usa, since the two party system, never choose to actually grow from the bottom to the top? the People's party first campaign is this one for Cornell West. Their first campaign. How can you expect to win a majority of 50 states when you have no presence in any state? Cornell west and many others before him, like Ross PErot, have differences in many ways, but all of them , regardless of their knowledge, clearly lack erudition in terms of government. The people's party has a website that is willing to accept money, has a bunch of goals, but has no process. Has no examples to show what they can do in smaller ways? https://www.peoplesparty.org/ I should not had but I went to Cornell WEst's website. https://www.cornelwest24.com/ I quote him What is Cornell West, a member of GI Joe the cartoon. And moreover, based on his introductory statement he is forgetting the USA can't be reintroduced to something it wasn't. When did the USA guarantee housing/guarantee healthcare/guarantee education/guarantee living wages/ guarantee ecological maintenance/... this made me laugh the usa is ending wars, the usa has started or propelled most of the wars since the year 1900/ the USA for over 150 years, which all black people know, has been the king of incarceration/ and the usa has always had extreme poverty, what do you think a slave is financially but poor. Ahh what is the process. But I will entertain this as this involves black leadership and cornell west is a black leader. First he is running for truth and justice, those are concepts, not people. What is the definition of truth or justice? He offers none. Why does it matter? You need to define how you determine a concept. Humans beings have never concurred on what is truth or justice. So you need to define it strictly so people can be clear on how you view it in terms of policy. Second, reintroduce the USA to the best of itself. Well, he explains what the best of the usa is, but the one big problem is most of what he states has no historical basis. So this is an error to me. The truthful thing to say is, introduce the usa to the best of what it can be. The USA hasn't been any of the things he defines as the best of in the usa's history. Third, how to make the things he wants to happen A. end poverty- well, simple equation. revenue earned per person+ financial assistance per person > cost of utilities+cost of food+ cost of clothing+ cost of healthcare. The problem is, the labor market in the usa has never supported the majority, again, slavery as a system is great for fiscal captalism. It allows for humans to be kept in a negative financial state legally which allows for the process of fiscal capitalism to play out and influence most free folk positively, cause the enslaved are taking a constant financial hit. So what is the solution to end poverty? Government assistance, or more bluntly, printing money and giving it to people or when people need, ala healthcare. But, this will not lower cost of items so this is a constant growth of printing money B. end mass incarceration- well, legalize prostitution + legalize loitering in public places like parks/sidewalks<not assault but loitering and not in residencies or private property but public places>+legalize all sales or possessions of drugs: from the heavy like cocaine, to the middle like nicotine or alcohol or to the light, like marijuana+ legalize all gambling, no restrictions anywhere meaning playing dice in the streets it allowed+ legalize all gun sales. The Black community knows this more than most. Black people used illegal means cause we were not allowed legal means by whites. It is simple. Most humans aren't killers but most are not going to fool themselves into low servitudes for the sake of legality. But in a very christian country with many self righteous people, legalization like I just suggested will have many opponents. C. Ending wars this makes me laugh. This is probably the hardest of all. I don't know how a country with seven fleets/three airforce commands/a satellite flleet/three submarine fleets/ a drone army/the CIA/the FBI/the NSA/and of course privateers like Blackwater is going to end wars when they are the genesis of most wars. The fiscally wealthy in the USA + the military community is not going to go back to isolationism as before the first phase of the european imperial wars, commonly called world war one. So this one is hard and I will not spend more than a minute on each of these. D. Ecological collapse well, the USA is going to need an army to tell other countries how to use their resources. At the end of the second phase of the european imperial wars it was possible to get most governments in humanity to guide their economies but today, it is too late outside of using force, but of course, if you want to end wars, you can't start wars so... the good news is, the earth can survive humanity's destruction. E. The guarantees: housing+healthcare+education+living wages. all these things in fiscal capitalism require money. To guarantee them means at the moment, the usa is going to print money like never before, to guarantee them. Now, a problem exists. How can the usa tell china or russia to not print money for their people ? how can the usa not give some members of the european union or the european union itself the ability to print money? if every major government is printing money where does the financial markets reside in all this? I quote a banker, fiscal capitalsim absent penalty isn't fiscal capitalsim. The ability to be broke/penniless/kicked out/totally indebted is part of the natural cycle of fiscal capitalism, to guarantee means that someone's financial ledger has to be totally made up somewhere and why should only one be made up. I conclude with function. Points A+ E policy wise, law wise , mean print money and pay for things. And woe be the day the usa empire isn't the global policeman and someone calls in that debt and has to get it. Points C+D policy wise, law wise, are impossible together. The only way to get all governments in humanity to operate on one page is a larger war machine. but a larger war machine will by default lead to more wars, sooner or later. Second money never blocked an army so the usa has to have a military to defend itself, like all countries. but the usa serves a function as a law enforcer for global trade. the usa has a military machine that breeds wars. No empire can have peace absent its military , while a military is mandatory to allow any government to function against another government, cause eventually another government will want to simply take. And while money can be potentially used to deter wars or get governments to allow certain activity, that is an ever increasing bill. B policy wise, law wise, is the only one that is purely domestic or in the usa in terms of scope. It is the only one that can have a different solution but it is the hardest sell. the usa is full of self righteous people. In AALBC,how many people have chided at the level fo religious zealot black people selling drugs, selling themselves, dealing in guns. To empty the prisons you need to first change the legal code. But, all the towns that are supported by prisons will vote against this, rally against this. So you will sate them with money. What about all the law enforcement communities? they will be unhappy. LEgalization deletes the need for law enforcement as it is. If the only thing illegal is murder and assault, you don't need so many law enforcers. man is drunk on the corner, what's the problem is he isn't assaulting someone. Woman is selling drugs in the park, what's the problem if she isn't assaulting someone. But, I doubt the majority of the populace in the usa , again, very religious, very self righteous, very much into lying will accept such policies. In the end, Cornell West's policies add up to print money. Print money to: end poverty, stop wars, stop mass incarcerations, get governments to allow certain actions concerning the environment, plus pay for guarantees to all living humans. That is a lot of money. In a modern humanity where china makes 92% of the cathodes in all electric car batteries, where Russia + the Arab monarchies own most of the oil. And the most important point, West has nothing but his speeches to show for functionaizing these ideas. Cornell West has a place or lived in Harlem in Manhattan in NYC in NYS. Run for city council. why not?
  5. @ProfD yeah I heard. Again, why is it 99% of the third parties in the usa, since the two party system, never choose to actually grow from the bottom to the top? the People's party first campaign is this one for Cornell West. Their first campaign. How can you expect to win a majority of 50 states when you have no presence in any state? Cornell west and many others before him, like Ross PErot, have differences in many ways, but all of them , regardless of their knowledge, clearly lack erudition in terms of government. The people's party has a website that is willing to accept money, has a bunch of goals, but has no process. Has no examples to show what they can do in smaller ways? https://www.peoplesparty.org/ I should not had but I went to Cornell WEst's website. I quote him What is Cornell West, a member of GI Joe the cartoon. And moreover, based on his introductory statement he is forgetting the USA can't be reintroduced to something it wasn't. When did the USA guarantee housing/guarantee healthcare/guarantee education/guarantee living wages/ guarantee ecological maintenance/... this made me laugh the usa is ending wars, the usa has started or propelled most of the wars since the year 1900/ the USA for over 150 years, which all black people know, has been the king of incarceration/ and the usa has always had extreme poverty, what do you think a slave is financially but poor. Ahh what is the process. But I will entertain this as this involves black leadership and cornell west is a black leader. First he is running for truth and justice, those are concepts, not people. What is the definition of truth or justice? He offers none. Why does it matter? You need to define how you determine a concept. Humans beings have never concurred on what is truth or justice. So you need to define it strictly so people can be clear on how you view it in terms of policy. Second, reintroduce the USA to the best of itself. Well, he explains what the best of the usa is, but the one big problem is most of what he states has no historical basis. So this is an error to me. The truthful thing to say is, introduce the usa to the best of what it can be. The USA hasn't been any of the things he defines as the best of in the usa's history. Third, how to make the things he wants to happen A. end poverty- well, simple equation. revenue earned per person+ financial assistance per person > cost of utilities+cost of food+ cost of clothing+ cost of healthcare. The problem is, the labor market in the usa has never supported the majority, again, slavery as a system is great for fiscal captalism. It allows for humans to be kept in a negative financial state legally which allows for the process of fiscal capitalism to play out and influence most free folk positively, cause the enslaved are taking a constant financial hit. So what is the solution to end poverty? Government assistance, or more bluntly, printing money and giving it to people or when people need, ala healthcare. But, this will not lower cost of items so this is a constant growth of printing money B. end mass incarceration- well, legalize prostitution + legalize loitering in public places like parks/sidewalks<not assault but loitering and not in residencies or private property but public places>+legalize all sales or possessions of drugs: from the heavy like cocaine, to the middle like nicotine or alcohol or to the light, like marijuana+ legalize all gambling, no restrictions anywhere meaning playing dice in the streets it allowed+ legalize all gun sales. The Black community knows this more than most. Black people used illegal means cause we were not allowed legal means by whites. It is simple. Most humans aren't killers but most are not going to fool themselves into low servitudes for the sake of legality. But in a very christian country with many self righteous people, legalization like I just suggested will have many opponents. C. Ending wars this makes me laugh. This is probably the hardest of all. I don't know how a country with seven fleets/three airforce commands/a satellite flleet/three submarine fleets/ a drone army/the CIA/the FBI/the NSA/and of course privateers like Blackwater is going to end wars when they are the genesis of most wars. The fiscally wealthy in the USA + the military community is not going to go back to isolationism as before the first phase of the european imperial wars, commonly called world war one. So this one is hard and I will not spend more than a minute on each of these. D. Ecological collapse well, the USA is going to need an army to tell other countries how to use their resources. At the end of the second phase of the european imperial wars it was possible to get most governments in humanity to guide their economies but today, it is too late outside of using force, but of course, if you want to end wars, you can't start wars so... the good news is, the earth can survive humanity's destruction. E. The guarantees: housing+healthcare+education+living wages. all these things in fiscal capitalism require money. To guarantee them means at the moment, the usa is going to print money like never before, to guarantee them. Now, a problem exists. How can the usa tell china or russia to not print money for their people ? how can the usa not give some members of the european union or the european union itself the ability to print money? if every major government is printing money where does the financial markets reside in all this? I quote a banker, fiscal capitalsim absent penalty isn't fiscal capitalsim. The ability to be broke/penniless/kicked out/totally indebted is part of the natural cycle of fiscal capitalism, to guarantee means that someone's financial ledger has to be totally made up somewhere and why should only one be made up. I conclude with function. Points A+ E policy wise, law wise , mean print money and pay for things. And woe be the day the usa empire isn't the global policeman and someone calls in that debt and has to get it. Points C+D policy wise, law wise, are impossible together. The only way to get all governments in humanity to operate on one page is a larger war machine. but a larger war machine will by default lead to more wars, sooner or later. Second money never blocked an army so the usa has to have a military to defend itself, like all countries. but the usa serves a function as a law enforcer for global trade. the usa has a military machine that breeds wars. No empire can have peace absent its military , while a military is mandatory to allow any government to function against another government, cause eventually another government will want to simply take. And while money can be potentially used to deter wars or get governments to allow certain activity, that is an ever increasing bill. B policy wise, law wise, is the only one that is purely domestic or in the usa in terms of scope. It is the only one that can have a different solution but it is the hardest sell. the usa is full of self righteous people. In AALBC,how many people have chided at the level fo religious zealot black people selling drugs, selling themselves, dealing in guns. To empty the prisons you need to first change the legal code. But, all the towns that are supported by prisons will vote against this, rally against this. So you will sate them with money. What about all the law enforcement communities? they will be unhappy. LEgalization deletes the need for law enforcement as it is. If the only thing illegal is murder and assault, you don't need so many law enforcers. man is drunk on the corner, what's the problem is he isn't assaulting someone. Woman is selling drugs in the park, what's the problem if she isn't assaulting someone. But, I doubt the majority of the populace in the usa , again, very religious, very self righteous, very much into lying will accept such policies. In the end, Cornell West's policies add up to print money. Print money to: end poverty, stop wars, stop mass incarcerations, get governments to allow certain actions concerning the environment, plus pay for guarantees to all living humans. That is a lot of money. In a modern humanity where china makes 92% of the cathodes in all electric car batteries, where Russia + the Arab monarchies own most of the oil. And the most important point, West has nothing but his speeches to show for functionaizing these ideas. Cornell West has a place or lived in Harlem in Manhattan in NYC in NYS. Run for city council. why not? @frankster piggy backing off our other dialog. Cornel West is a black leader , before or during or after this camaign in the people's party. But, what were my questions: what is a leader trying to do, how effective are they, how does it relate to the Black community? What is Cornel West trying to do? He is trying to manipulate the campaign of Joe Biden for a second term. How effective will he be? time will tell How does it relate to the black community? Not to well. Some black people will gain as per the Frederick Douglass Tradition, the majority in the black community in the usa have never been helped or happy, but a few blacks , less than a minority in the black community but not only a handful one, will gain. You see this with the marijuana dispensary law in NYC/NYS. Biden may add some policies that will help a few blacks. And, that is a good thing in general.
  6. @frankster I concur to your quote above. .... I don't think a leader has to be looked to for direction. Again, the IRA freed 3/4 of IReland being feared or despised by many and potentially most irish people. But the IRA had an objective and succeeded and many in ireland are better for it. In my assessment 99% of Black leaders in the government in the usa historically owe at least part of their position to whites. Sometimes they are. I can even use a modern scenario that is localized. The marijuana issue in NYC, from the legalization of marijuana to the nyc/nys government program that has provided opportunities to start marijuana dispensaries to those imprisoned by marijuana possession, which for the record has been utilized. But, to be blunt, if the black population in nyc alone put in prison for marijuana possession was let out in total en masse, if they all were given a ten year license for opening up a marijuana business and were given money for the years they were put in jail or detention for trying to feed themselves or their families that would be great for the black community but will be a financial collapse of many white towns in upstate New York sate who live off of the prison populace fed by small fiscal crime inmates who are black. New York City is already at the brink, financially and a battle between the mayor and city council over financing is going on as I type. The expenses of giving licenses and a pension for a dysfunctional legal system , which is warranted, will be to the detriment of NYC. It is that simple. No two things in humanity are always better together, some times, most times, few times, but never none of the time while never all the time. why troubling? Human beings are human. It is human to murder a parent cruelly as it is to celebrate the birthday to a stranger vigorously. Human leadership is meant to have a full spectrum. I will be troubled when humanity losses variance in any aspect, cause that is inhuman.
  7. @frankster well, the difference between my definition of leader and yours, based on what you said, is in my definition, a leader can be bad:) In my view, a leader isn't someone who succeeds at leading. In my view, a leader is someone in a leadership position, regardless of what they do in it. So for example, Barrack Obama is a black leader. Mayor Eric Adams is a black leader. In my mind the question isn't are they leaders, but what are their objectives and are they good at being a leader? In terms of the black community I argue they are poor. In terms of the USA I argue they are at least good. But their objectives isn't an improved black community first and foremost. Their goal is an improved usa first or foremost. But that is ok. All leaders have their own objectives. All communities have bad leaders. And sometimes a bad leader does one great thing while a good leader does a terrible thing. And sometimes a leader gets to complete all their objectives even if many consider it bad.
  8. All of the image below were what the party of abraham lincoln wanted to cut from federal budgets. All of this money is going to new york state, not across anywhere, all new york state. It's funny. I look at each of these and the debt of the USA is clear. 1) Rental assistance. First, NYC has high rents. So most people who live in New York City can't even afford to be in the apartments who have legally lowered rent. What is my point? The NYC real estate market is buoyed by welfare. The people making millions for selling a loft are buoyed by a city whose populace is subsidized so that the real estate industry can make profits. It is a financially dysfunctional situation, that was brewed long before I or most who live in nyc was born. But what is the question, New York City plus NEw York State made this mess long ago, this is again, a long term problem that has festered, but why does the federal government have to pay for New Yorks dysfunctions over many decades? And secondly, don't let anyone fool you. Many a new yorker has championed a neighbor being kicked out with total glee. 2) Again, many people join the military for personal benefits, roof over the head, food , stipend, free college, yes healthcare, people don't join the military because the military offers nothing and it is dignified. PEople join the military for benefits!!! But, again, columbia presbyterian isn't a hospis. It isn't some free medical facility. Healthcare cost. 3) Again, the Metropolitan Transit Authority started as a few lines, it was an exclusive service. Yes it was expanded through the world war II monetary increase but this is again a high cost. Infrastructure is financially never cheap. Somehow people think infrastructure is. Old human facilities deteriorate because the power to maintain them, by any means, is gone. This is no different than the MTA. yeah, it runs all day in NYC. yes, NYC couldn't function absent it, as most who live in NYC don't own a car. But, it is expensive and the gilded age was over a long time ago. 4) The fire department + law enforcement agencies of NYC are huge, especially law enforcement. But again, law enforcement has the best paid union in NYC, is deemed by many, erroneously though purposefully, a communally positive job. And today is a large behemoth that has grown out of control to be blunt. But, it is also expensive. The article below admits much of this but misses a key word. Slavery. Slavery fits Fiscal Capitalism like peanut butter and jelly. Fiscal capitalism allows for individual or groups freedom, an open marketplace for all, but it demands most be the loser. Slavery has the great solution, if the losers are enslaved those who are not can live in an augmented scenario to their favor. No, get rich quick doesn't work. No, no plan or strategy can lead all or most to fiscal positivity. No, most will eventually not accept being peaceful while poor. No, all militaries eventually fade, and with them , whatever they are protecting. No, the individual will not always rise above or is to blame for failing to rise about a fiscally poor environment. Now what does this have to do with black people, specifically? To black people outside the USA a cautionary tale. Any community in humanity chooses to do negative things for their betterment. No one has to, but if you do, don't lie about it. Don't turn the lies you make of yourself into laws. To black people in the usa, I don't know the future, but dysfunctional systems exist in the USA, in its big cities like NYC. Said dysfunctions are not any one person's fault, more the fault of many over time. But the USA has dysfunctions that when they finally stall will influence the life of all. Tell the truth about the usa, not what you want. Please Don’t Call My Job a Calling June 5, 2023 By Simone Stolzoff Mr. Stolzoff is the author of the book “The Good Enough Job: Reclaiming Life From Work.” Last month, in an interview about Warner Bros. Discovery’s $50 million streaming profit in the first quarter of 2023, the company’s chief executive, David Zaslav, told CNBC that he believed the Writers Guild of America strike would ultimately end because of “a love for the business and a love for working.” As the sixth week of the strike begins, the writers’ persistence reveals a sharper truth: Love, unfortunately, doesn’t pay the bills. The implication that love is a suitable stand-in for job security, workplace protections or fair pay is a commonly held belief, especially in so-called dream jobs like writing, cooking and working in the arts, where the privilege to do the work is seen as a form of compensation itself. But the rhetoric that a job is a passion or a “labor of love” obfuscates the reality that a job is an economic contract. The assumption that it isn’t sets up the conditions for exploitation. Indeed, creative, mission-driven and prestigious jobs often take advantage of employees’ love for what they do. According to one 2020 study, employers see poor treatment of workers — such as expecting overtime work without pay or asking people to do demeaning tasks that aren’t part of their job descriptions — as more acceptable if the workers are thought to be passionate about what they do. This stems from bosses’ tacit assumptions that their employees would do the work even if they weren’t paid. That seems to be the message some W.G.A. members have gotten. “Writing is a noble vocation,” says Charles Rogers, a writer and showrunner who is on strike in Los Angeles. “But the industry is set up to make writers feel like they should be grateful just to be here.” Employers then rely on employees’ indebtedness and the proverbial line of people out the door who would happily take their places to justify paying them less than they deserve. The idea that employees work for something other than money is also pervasive in industries that are geared toward helping people, such as education. “Teaching is a calling,” tweeted Mayor Eric Adams of New York City a few weeks ago. “You don’t do it for the money, you do it because you believe in the kids that come into your classrooms.” That may sound like reverence, but the New York City teachers’ union contract expired last September, and Mr. Adams has resisted pay increases that keep up with inflation. Teachers need better compensation, not platitudes celebrating teacher appreciation week. In a 2018 paper, Fobazi Ettarh, who at the time was a librarian, coined a term for how the perceived righteousness of her industry obscured the issues that existed within it. Ms. Ettarh called the phenomenon vocational awe, which she defined as the belief that as a workplace, libraries were inherently good, and therefore supposedly beyond critique. When a workplace is seen as virtuous, she claimed, it’s easier for workers to be exploited. “In the face of grand missions of literacy and freedom, advocating for your full lunch break feels petty,” she wrote. Ms. Ettarh had known she wanted to become a librarian since she was a teenager. When she was studying for her library science degree, her professors loved to wax poetic about how becoming a librarian is a calling and libraries serve as the last truly democratic institution. But from the other side of the reference desk, she saw how the industry’s ideals concealed its low pay. In her first position out of grad school, Ms. Ettarh was told by her supervisor, “No one becomes a librarian to make a living wage.” (She was making $48,000 at the time.) She eventually left the industry. During the pandemic, vocational awe was on full display from educators who were told that they were doing God’s work but also to make do with what they had to health care professionals who were deemed essential yet often not given compensation or protection commensurate with the severity of their work. The perceived righteousness of honorable industries covered up poor conditions like frosting on a burned cake. While vocational awe is common in do-gooder professions, it can exist in any field that relies on the strength of its brand to distract from the reality of workers’ experiences. Take zookeeping, a profession where the average pay is $16.51 per hour, according to Indeed. Zookeeping is romanticized — you get to spend time with animals! — but also characterized by long hours, hard labor and cleaning up feces. In a study, the organizational behavior researchers Jeffery A. Thompson and J. Stuart Bunderson found that following the calling to be a zookeeper led to trade-offs. “Fostering a sense of occupational identification, transcendent meaning and occupational importance on the one hand,” they wrote, offset “unbending duty, personal sacrifice and heightened vigilance on the other.” The researchers concluded that low pay, unfavorable benefits and poor working conditions are often the sacrifices workers make for the privilege of doing what they love. This sense of duty and personal sacrifice can conflate workers’ output and their self-worth, as I chronicle in my new book, but it can also have a chilling effect on their willingness to surface wrongdoing. When you’re in a great job — one that you feel lucky to have — the fear of losing it can make it harder to speak up. But thankfully, workers are recognizing their collective strength. Employees at workplaces across the country have organized and are fighting for better conditions. In Hollywood, it’s the screenwriters demanding more job security and a better cut of residuals. In Ann Arbor, Mich., graduate students at the University of Michigan are also on strike, demanding a raise in minimum annual salaries from about $24,000 to $38,500. In Oregon, nurses are calling for staffing increases to better serve patients. And they have a lot of support. Seventy-one percent of Americans approve of labor unions, according to a Gallup poll from last year, which is their highest recorded approval rate in the United States since 1965. As Ms. Ettarh told me, “Workers are seeing that unless they work together to fight back, institutions will grind them to dust.” For starters, employers can recognize that we work for more than love. URL https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/05/opinion/employment-exploitation-unions.html
  9. @ProfDfair enough, my read of history suggest most black people in the usa have thought of reparations but most black leaders in the usa haven't prioritized or functionalized the issue. For me, reparations isn't due from the usa, it is due from the white community. @Troy I apologize for miscommunicating. My point wasn't to say that most black people in the usa haven't thought about or desired reparations. my point is most black leaders in the usa haven't approached/functionalized/prioritized the issue. But i did say most, not all. @frankster fair enough, but my point is not to condemn the past. I think most black leaders in the usa didn't or don't see reparations as a positive goal for black people in the usa. I am not suggesting most black people in the usa never or do not want reparations. I am speaking on black leadership in the usa, specifically.
  10. You know, maybe because of Juneteenth, I have thought about freedom in the black community in the usa and when black people talk about reparations we mention how most black people wanted it, but we don't mention how black leadership in the usa since the war between the states in majority never advocated for reparations. No black leadership group has ever truly advocated reparations. The Black church hasn't, the NAACP hasn't, Black colleges hasn't , black elected officials to any party of governance hasnt. So, yes, most black people in the USA have thought of reparations, wanted reparations, but a majority of black leadership in the usa hasn't advocated it, even if they spoke well of it or desired it in private. If our leadership isn't advocating something, no matter how loud we are, it will not be done. With the modern black community in the usa internally more multiracial than ever before, mostly allegiant to the usa more than ever before, more willing to live aside non blacks more than ever before, more financially wealthier in the usa than ever before, the issue of reparations is least desired today than ever before in the black community in the usa. It doesn't mean reparations isn't warranted, nor is the ower the usa. The ower is the White community. But, Black leadership in the usa in majority chose to guide the black community to where it is now, and one of the negatives of that choice is black people have to live with reparations being warranted but no longer majority supported in the black community itself. REFERRAL THE PRICE OF TRYING TO BE EQUAL TO AN ENEMY Single Status Update from 06/04/2023 by richardmurray - African American Literature Book Club (aalbc.com) JUNETEENTH IDEAS
  11. How a simple shipping error poisoned most of Michigan
    Story by Matt Jaworowski • 8h ago

    ST. LOUIS, Mich. (WOOD) — In many ways, St. Louis, Michigan, is your typical small town. Main Street is one of the city’s primary throughways. The “downtown” shopping district spans just a few blocks. St. Louis doesn’t have a Walmart to call its own. That requires a quick drive over to the nearby city of Alma. 
    But St. Louis has its own claims to fame. The town of approximately 6,800 people prides itself on being the “Middle of the Mitten” — measured to be the geographic center of the state of Michigan. Signs throughout the city boast about that fact.

    A cynic could call it the middle of nowhere, but that isn’t necessarily true. At one time, St. Louis wasn’t just the “middle” of Michigan, it was also the center of a statewide controversy.

    Just a couple of short blocks from Main Street, there is a giant swath of open land, about 54 acres in all. It’s surrounded by chainlink fence, with construction equipment and power stations lining the paths. The warning signs are faded by the sun. The lettering that was once a bright red is now a pale pink, but all these years later they still read “Private Property, No Trespassing.”

    There is a gated driveway with a sign of its own. You have arrived at the former Velsicol Chemical Plant, now an EPA Superfund Cleanup site. < https://cumulis.epa.gov/supercpad/cursites/csitinfo.cfm?id=0502194 > On the other side of the driveway is a ceremonial bench, built on behalf of the city. The inscription reads, “We declare our mutual aim that our river and land be restored to their natural condition safe for any use.”

    The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency has been working off and on at the site for more than 40 years now — and the work continues. The Pine River and surrounding areas have been contaminated for much longer than that. But 50 years ago, a simple error at the since-demolished St. Louis plant spread that contamination from a handful of communities to the entire state.

    “It is the most underreported disaster I have known in my long journalistic career.”

    That’s how Joyce Egginton ends the first paragraph of her book, “The Poisoning of Michigan.” At the time, Egginton was an American correspondent for the London Observer. She says she stumbled onto the story tucked away deep inside an issue of The New York Times.

    “I remember calling out to my husband halfway through the task, ‘Can you believe this one?’” Egginton wrote. “Way down on an inside page of the New York Times was a brief account of how in Michigan a large quantity of a highly toxic industrial fire retardant, polybrominated biphenyl (PBB), had been confused at the manufacturing plant with a nutritional supplement for cattle feed. As a result, there had been a massive, slow poisoning of dairy herds for almost a year before the accident was discovered. It was estimated that throughout that time virtually all 9 million people living in Michigan had been ingesting contaminated meat and milk on a daily basis.”

    That snippet from The New York Times led Egginton to years of research and interviews, culminating in more than 300 pages packed with details, outlining a quietly escalating tragedy that centered around PBB.

    PBB is a group of man-made chemicals that were first manufactured around 1970 and sold primarily as a fire retardant. They were also mixed into many plastics for consumer products, including computer monitors, televisions and textiles. But chemical manufacturers didn’t fully understand the health or environmental impact from these chemicals. Those questions came after the infamous “PBB Disaster.”

    It was a late spring day in 1973 when a truck driver made a delivery from Michigan Chemical to the Michigan Farm Bureau’s central mixing facility outside of Battle Creek. The driver thought he had dropped off 50-pound bags of Nutrimaster — Michigan Chemical’s product name for magnesium oxide.

    America’s first high-volume ‘PFAS Annihilator’ is up and running in West Michigan
    Farmers regularly mix in magnesium oxide as a supplement for milking cows. The compound provides iodine, which cows need, and it also makes the cows thirstier. The more water cows drink, the more milk they produce.

    This magnesium oxide was a grayish-white powder and was packed in 50-pound brown paper sacks. The powder tended to get clumpy when exposed to moisture. What the driver had actually delivered was Firemaster, another grayish-white clumpy mixture that was packed in 50-pound brown paper bags.

    “Except for the color coding on the bags, Nutrimaster and the powdery form of Firemaster could easily have been mistaken one for the other,” Egginton wrote. “Which is exactly what happened when, during a temporary nationwide paper shortage in the winter of 1972-73, Michigan Chemical Corporation ran out of preprinted bags and made do by simply hand-stenciling the trade names in black.” 

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    Tens of thousands of animals tainted with PBB were slaughtered and buried in pits on state land to limit contamination spread. (Courtesy Archives of Michigan)
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    Tens of thousands of animals tainted with PBB were slaughtered and buried in pits on state land to limit contamination spread. (Courtesy Archives of Michigan)
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    Tens of thousands of animals tainted with PBB were slaughtered and buried in pits on state land to limit contamination spread. (Courtesy Archives of Michigan)
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    In the ensuing few years, < https://www.michigan.gov/mdhhs/safety-injury-prev/environmental-health/topics/dehbio/pbbs/history > more than 500 farms across the state had to be quarantined. Approximately 30,000 cattle, 4,500 swine, 1,500 sheep and 1.5 million chickens either died from PBB-related ailments or had to be killed. That doesn’t count the sick animals that showed clear signs of PBB toxicity but were still allowed to be sold off and slaughtered.

    Rick Halbert, one of the first farmers to press the Farm Bureau on a problem with his feed, explained to Egginton how his herd’s health fell off a cliff.

    “As months went by the toxic symptoms in his herd progressed, producing a mangey appearance, matted hair, thickened skin, diarrhea, emaciation,” Egginton wrote. 

    Many cows also showed signs of distress during pregnancy, leading to a spike in aborted or stillborn calves.

    Gerald Woltjer bought a farm in Coopersville from a farmer who was forced to sell because of PBB contamination. He figured the property could still be successful with a new herd. He was wrong.

    “Within two years, Woltjer’s herd — which was never quarantined — was so sick and useless that he was on the verge of bankruptcy,” Egginton wrote. “He told of scrawny cows with perpetually bloody noses ‘who acted like they were blind;’ cows so weak that they could not get up to be milked; cows which had bodily infections but passed inspection to be butchered for human consumption.”

    Woltjer realized the land was contaminated and PBB exposure had spread to his herd.

    “The longer I lived on that farm, the worse it became,” he told Egginton. “After a time, there were no worms in the soil. There were no field mice, no rats, no rabbits, no grasshoppers. As the cattle were dying, the cats and dogs were dying, too. A fully grown cat would live only six weeks on that farm. Our three dogs went crazy. Our neighbors had bees that were dead in the hives. The frogs were dead in the streams. There was a five-acre swamp that used to croak at night so you could hardly sleep. Then, it was silent. And it was a long time before I knew why.”

    Most farmers, completely baffled by the sudden changes, fell into financial ruin. Even with the state eventually instituting PBB testing standards and a program to help compensate for their losses, many farmers faced drastic decisions. For some, it came down to killing your animals or selling an obviously sick one to market in an attempt to make any money back on a floundering investment. Many farmers, like Garry Zuiderveen from Missaukee County, refused to pass along the PBB-contaminated animals.

    “We should never have had to make that decision,” Zuiderveen told Egginton. “It was the darkest day in my life when I shot those cows. A farmer is an immensely proud person. Anything wrong with his herd reflects on his husbandry and his herdmanship.”

    The Michigan Department of Agriculture eventually opened a large tract of state-owned land in Kalkaska County to be used as a burial pit for tainted animals. But for farmers like Zuiderveen, who clearly had a poisoned herd but tested below the state’s safety threshold, there was no help offered.

    Zuiderveen ended up digging a burial pit on his own property. His neighbors and friends came to help, knowing it would be a difficult day.

    “We hauled the milk cows from the barn to the burial site on three stock trailers and put them in six or eight at a time. Within 20 seconds after they were unloaded, we shot them with high-powered rifles. This finished them instantly. They did not suffer,” Zuiderveen told Egginton. “My dad would not look at them. Tears were running down his face, a man of 78. … Those fellows don’t know what they put us through. We should never have had to kill our own cows; we were too emotionally involved.”

    Zuiderveen wouldn’t take any credit for doing “the right thing.” He credited his Christian upbringing and the concept of being “our brother’s keeper.”

    “I knew that, from the information we had at the time, it was the only decision we could make and still face ourselves in the mirror,” he said.

    Still, plenty of other farmers couldn’t pull the trigger. Between facing bankruptcy or foreclosure, many felt like there was no other rational choice. As a result, lots of PBB-tainted meat and dairy products were sold at market and scientists estimate virtually everyone who lived in Michigan at the time was exposed to PBB and had some level stored within the fats in their body.

     

    Though there were studies being conducted and clear symptoms that could be traced to PBB exposure, specific findings on how PBB impacts the human body came long after the 1973 disaster. By the 1990s, researchers had been able to tie chemical pollution to a rise in hormone-related abnormalities, including breast cancer.

    Michele Marcus is a professor of epidemiology at Emory University and is the lead scientist on the Michigan PBB Registry, < https://sph.emory.edu/pbbregistry/about/index.html > which began in 1976. She said that PBB essentially acts as estrogen in the human body. A PBB buildup throws off the body’s hormonal balance, leading girls to mature earlier and boys to mature later and be born with abnormalities in their urinary or reproductive systems.

    Researchers also found that PBB was being passed down from one generation to another, even today finding a higher rate of miscarriages in women who were born from mothers or grandmothers who were directly exposed to high levels of PBB.

    “The children of the mother are exposed as it crosses the placenta and then again in breast milk because (PBB) is lipophilic. It is stored in fat, and breast milk has a very high fat concentration,” Marcus said.

    The latest studies are focused on how PBB impacts a person’s DNA. Marcus explained that PBB does not mutate a person’s genetic sequence, but it can impact how certain genes are “expressed.”

    “You start from a single cell. You’ve got your DNA and then the cells change and they differentiate into heart cells, stomach cells, liver cells. And each cell type has a gene expression pattern. So genes are turned off and turned on depending on the function of the cell,” Marcus said. “This is kind of a new field, which is looking at the impact of chemicals or substances on gene regulation, not on the genes themselves. … We found that PBB does impact this methylation pattern and, in fact, that’s part of the evidence that it acts like estrogen because it affects this methylation pattern in the same way as estrogen.”

    Some good, some bad: Michigan DNR updates endangered species list < https://www.woodtv.com/news/michigan/some-good-some-bad-michigan-dnr-updates-endangered-species-list/
    So can that gene regulation be inherited? Researchers haven’t come to a unanimous conclusion yet, but Marcus believes it can.

    “This is a very controversial question and for many years the dogma was no, it can’t (be inherited) because those things are stripped when the sperm are developed. When the DNA replicates that is supposed to be all stripped off,” Marcus said. “But now it seems that that’s not complete. … There have been a lot of studies that are very, very clear in animals that it happens, and the human evidence keeps accumulating.”

    The Michigan PBB Registry was launched in 1976 to gather data that could eventually be used to answer these kinds of questions. The study started with approximately 4,000 people and eventually added in their children and grandchildren. Eventually, the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services wanted to shut down the research project. But thanks to funding from the National Institutes of Health, it was transferred to Emory University.

    Decades later, the St. Louis community remains heavily invested in the PBB disaster and anxious to learn more about how it impacted their health and environment. In 1998, after meeting with the EPA and other state departments, a community group launched the Pine River Superfund Citizen Task Force. < https://www.pinerivercag.org/

    Jane Jelenek now serves as the chairperson of the task force. She didn’t live in St. Louis in 1973, but her husband worked at the chemical plant and had other friends and relatives who had direct exposure.

    Jelenek said her work is not focused on looking to the past or securing compensation for people who were exposed; those efforts have long failed. Instead, the task force is focused on working with the EPA and holding it accountable to make sure the land is restored. She said it has been an up-and-down relationship.

    “We found at our (monthly meetings) that they were more interested in the amount of dollars that they could get to do something that determined how much cleanup they actually would do. We did not think that was a very good measure,” Jelenek said. “And I remember saying at one meeting, ‘We don’t care about the money. We don’t care how much it costs. We just want it done.’”

    When will it be done? Thanks to an influx of investment because of the latest infrastructure legislation, work has gotten a boost. Tom Alcamo, the EPA’s remedial project manager for the site, hopes work will be done by 2026. Eventually, the Superfund site will be deemed clean and the land will be turned over to the community.

    But the scars will remain. And traces of PBB are still being passed down from one generation to the next.

     

    Instead of mixing in a nutritional supplement, the Farm Bureau was unknowingly poisoning thousands and thousands of animals. Even worse, the problem wasn’t limited to one specific type of feed. Any feed that was processed through the same mixer that used Firemaster was now being exposed to PBB, making it even harder for the investigators trying to find the root of the problem.

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      juneteenth and reparations 

       

  12. @Chevdove yeah I am a fan of st louis jazz yeah, it is a favorite among our folk, but others as well. That is the east side one. They have two in manhattan. Tried for three but had to let the third go for the city's fiscal environment during the sars-cov-2 response.
  13. Some ideas for Juneteenth given by a Black person elsewhere. Maybe an intellectual debate. Subject matter, I don't know. A skype maybe. The following are Juneteenth events, share your local ones.
  14. An Impossible Proof Of Pythagoras Presenting Authors Ne’Kiya D Jackson St. Mary's Academy Calcea Rujean Johnson St. Mary's Academy Saturday, March 18, 2023 9:00 AM - 9:30 AM 423 (Clough Undergraduate Learning Commons) Abstract In the 2000 years since trigonometry was discovered it's always been assumed that any alleged proof of Pythagoras’s Theorem based on trigonometry must be circular. In fact, in the book containing the largest known collection of proofs (The Pythagorean Proposition by Elisha Loomis) the author flatly states that “There are no trigonometric proofs, because all the fundamental formulae of trigonometry are themselves based upon the truth of the Pythagorean Theorem.” But that isn’t quite true: in our lecture we present a new proof of Pythagoras’s Theorem which is based on a fundamental result in trigonometry—the Law of Sines—and we show that the proof is independent of the Pythagorean trig identity \sin^2x + \cos^2x = 1. URL https://meetings.ams.org/math/spring2023se/meetingapp.cgi/Paper/23621 URL- timeing 9 am https://meetings.ams.org/math/spring2023se/meetingapp.cgi/Session/6131 Referral- thanks to a friend https://theblackwallsttimes.com/2023/03/28/new-orleans-teens-solve-impossible-mathematical-equation/ While in India India drops the periodic table, Pythagorean theorem and evolution from school textbooks Story by Sushmitha Ramakrishnan, Deutsche Welle • ... On June 1, India cut a slew of foundational topics from tenth grade textbooks, including the periodic table of elements, Darwin's theory of evolution, the Pythagorean theorem, sources of energy, sustainable management of natural resources and contribution of agriculture to the national economy, among others. ... A small section explaining Michael Faraday's contributions to scientific understanding of electricity and magnetism has also been removed. ... India's National Council of Educational Research and Training (NCERT) -- the public body that designs curriculum and textbooks --...expanding its list of omitted topics. ... tenth grade is the last year mandatory science classes are offered in Indian schools. Proof https://ncert.nic.in/pdf/Rationalisation-of-textbook/NCERT_Response-Periodic_Table_and_Evolution.pdf Referral https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/wellness/india-drops-the-periodic-table-pythagorean-theorem-and-evolution-from-school-textbooks/ar-AA1c2vDV PROOF - URL is above NCERT’s response to news related to rationalised content on Evolution and Periodic Table in Science Textbooks During the COVID -19 pandemic, students and teachers across the school stages were at home and managing teaching-learning using alternative modes. NCERT attempted to rationalise the contents of the textbooks in 2021 considering following criteria: a. Overlapping with similar content included in the other subject area in the same class. b. Similar content included in the lower or higher class in the same subject. c. High difficulty level d. Content, which is easily accessible to children and does not require much intervention from the teachers and can be learnt through self-learning or peer-learning. e. Content, which is not relevant in the present context or is outdated. f. Learning outcomes already developed across the classes are taken care of in this rationalization exercise. With respect to the removal of the concepts of periodic table and evolution are concerned, the same has not been removed from the school education curriculum but in fact are available in appropriate detail in classes 11 and 12. Regarding rationalization of the concept of evolution: As far as the rationalisation of the content of evolution is concerned, the same has been dealt in appropriate details in classes 12 as stated above. A considered opinion emerged based on the feedback received from various stakeholders, including practising teachers, that children may not have to study same concepts at different stages and it needs to be done at appropriate stage. Therefore the same has been rationalized at this stage, more so considering the Covid pandemic situation. Regarding rationalization of the periodic table: Discussion about basic concepts such as elements, symbols, formation of compounds, atoms and molecules have been dealt with in class 9. In class 10, chemical reaction; acids, bases & salts; metals & non-metals; carbon & its compounds have been covered. Students pursuing science in classes 11 and 12 will study the details of Periodic Classification of elements (Periodic table). The content placed in the periodic table again have been made more age appropriate, more so considering the Covid pandemic situation.
  15. @Chevdove skettel is being made, the screenplay is made, the first image is the thespian who will be the female lead. Criblore was made already but it is on a site. excerpts are on Moon Ferguson's video sharing , Filled with magic is the name of the company wait @Chevdove you never heard of the american black film festival before. I thought I shared it last year at the least in a post. welll, glad you know now. It tends to be in the south, if you live around, give it a go, it will be cool to have someone from aalbc there
  16. topics Cento poetry series , part 2 Select my Faux Volumetric for a 3d contest, free poll Center for Black Literature at Medgar Evers College book club Skettel + Criblore news , works from Moon Ferguson What is or can be a unique Juneteenth celebration? Black people at the end of the war between the states Per un Pugno di Dollari theme Black sitcom art 3D fabrication in the future https://rmnewsletter.over-blog.com/2023/05/06/04/2023-rmnewsletter.html
  17. We have some exciting news! We have officially cast our lead role! Marley will be played by the talented upcoming actress, Alicia Pilgrim! https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/moonferguson/skettel/posts/3824274?ref=ksr_email_backer_project_update_registered_users Criblore is an official selection for this year's American Black Film Festival! We will be screening our episode, Florida Water, starring Terayle Hill and Brittany S. Hall. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/moonferguson/criblore-a-horror-anthology/posts/3824304?ref=ksr_email_backer_project_update_registered_users
  18. @Pioneer1 Only one thing , it isn't mysterious entities. Nippon/China/Russia/many other governments bought the debt. They bought it cause the usa is the safest currency. The problem is, said countries also trade in this debt, the biggest being nippon. which means if the usa was to default, Nippon would now sell all that debt in a storm as the evaluation of the debt bought will go negative and that will begin a cascade of intergovernmental problems. The USA will be safe but the global system the usa set up will collapse and that will mean many governments or wealthy in every part of humanity will be damaged.
  19. @Pioneer1 well, yes, it doesn't seem wise to invest in a secret:) but the name comes from cryptography, literally the study of secrets, but functionally the study of private information in electronic devices. The hashtag and more importantly its utilization is what made crypto from a technical point of view and thus the name Cryptocoins. The reason why crypts are attached to graves is that in early christianity, when it was illegal or an impotent community, christian places had to be kept safe from authorities or others, thus crypts.
  20. @Pioneer1 cool ,any ideas on a unique way to celebrate juneteenth?
  21. @Pioneer1 Statistics are not known but I can say this having been fortunate to speak to black people who actually lived back then. These things did happen but it wasn't common or a plague. Remember the USA in itself in the 1950s is miscomprehended. There is an idea that people didn't know about debauchery or sexual activities. This isn't true. It wasn't some wild rampant as some suggest but it was also present. It connect to the next point. Well drugs have been common throughout the entirety of human history. But when he speaks of getting high he is refereing to high as in jubilation. Remember the black community in the usa was a much more christian community and still had remnants of our enslaved days where black people treated being high as being free from this world of enslavement. Be careful reading in modern sentiments into the past. And to that, Black people were mostly moonshine drinkers, tobacco smokers. These are drugs but they are common. Like Marijuana today, most black people have never been hard drug takers. But the reason is simple, most hard drugs require money. Cocaine isn't cheap, ala why black people were able to afford crack, its derivative. Most hard drugs are too expensive for black folk. Now comprehend, moonshine is potentially a hard drug in that moonshine can be over 90 proof which is strong alcohol content, near 50 but moonshine can be 110 or 120 proof, that is damn near pure alcohol. So when you say common drugs, well, Alcohol is ever present in the usa in general, all communities. I hope your not suggesting black people should be beyond taking any drugs. The kings of the nile sold wine. Well, I can tell you for sure that the NYPD has to get a cut of all crimes, as we speak right now at hunts point where the women walk naked around at 1am , the pimps are paying law enforcement in one way or the other. So why? why is to make sure the underworld comprehends who has to get their cut. Remember the NYPD was started by Bos Tweed as a place for Irish street gangs. And excuses were not given. What people consider legal oversight for law enforcement is a relatively new creation. In NYC something called the Nap commission <a msispelling> was started in the 1970s by mayor lindsey to begin managing law enforcement in nyc. we all do:)
  22. @Pioneer1 When you ask what do I mean, you didn't grow up with stories about High John? Well, High John is what I will label a Black DOS myth. He was a black character in the same vein as Anansi or Brer Rabbit. But Brer Rabbit/Anansi/High John are not the same. High John's nemesis was literally Massah. Growing up as a kid my parents read some of his tales and I would read them. The book is on the shelf. Most of the High John stories have one common theme, he always succeeds in outwitting massah. His plans always work out. I am a huge High John fan from my youth.
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