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@Pioneer1 Well, now you resort to being insulting. Disrespectful. Again, you are wrong. This man is not well known for a reason. Sacrificing Black pig, yes, is an ancient custom against Black people and is a reflection of the Black-on-Black hatred that continues to be fostered amongst Black people. These Vodoun practices were way to varied amongst different African and this is the problem today. Whether it was Catholicism or Vodoun, these practices are constantly used against the varied Africans that came from different countries and keeps them divided. No. Catholicism in not the same as the Coptic religion. Again, if religion gives someone the belief that they have the right to force someone to adhere to their religion, then that is the problem. But, since you believe that Bookman is the start and reason for Haitian victory then yes, do share.

Well, I hope that she is taking a leave of absence and will be back to catch you in your genderism issues. WHAT about @Mel Hopkins? You don't think that you are being disrespectful to the sistas that chose to mate with a non-Black man? Why would you need to distance yourself, @Pioneer1? Why should a sista or a Brotha have to explain to you that their significant other is 'NOT-WHITE'? What does that have to do with them being Black? The culture is the issue, here. If an AfroAmerican is intact with their identity, then that should not take away from their choice in a mate. America has done a lot of damage due to its racist agenda, but your understanding here, is flawed, imo.

Oh Wow! @ProfD You seen both films already! I am interested in the Wakanda film but as before, I usually do see these new films until they leave the theaters but not deliberately, however, it's just my priorty lifestyle. I think that's interesting of you assessment of Viola King's role in that slave film. It will be interesting how the film industry will continue to contrast and compare the top two films!

AND, you are wrong about your understanding of Toussaint Loverture. His name would not be so well known if he had not played a major role in the organization of the revolution. No, @Pioneer1 The Revolution did not occur before him but after he began to better organize the maroon groups. smh. And as far as the religious aspect, you need to read what @Stefan wrote. Your understanding about this subject is so flawed.

LOL @Pioneer1 This is one of your favorite movies? I've never heard of it. At any rate, I think that research is a good idea today.

@Pioneer1 That is just CRAZY! You have little if any respect for Africa and it ancient basis up to this day. You continue to give credit to their positive contributions to humanity to anyone else but them! WOW! Your respect level is insane.

As you said, after he came back from the Middle East, his views changed. Years ago, I was part of a book study with Islamic AfroAmerican MEN!--LOL. It was around the time of the Million Man March and it was one of the best experiences of my life. It was at this time that I learned a lot about the Civil Rights Movement. I had no idea that a lot of Islamics came together with the late Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.!? I went to an HBCU and didn't even learn about this and a lot of history. But also, I learned that there became a huge division when the late Malcolm X came back from the ME. He did not change a little, but a lot, from what I heard at the table. My husband read a book about him, I think the author was the late Alex Haley, and in it, I was told that it was revealed that Malcolm X had an obssession with White women. I think he was a complex man.

Thanks @Pioneer1. Yes, I forgot about the Samurai. You are right! Also, I remember that movie now. It was called, Iron Monkey, I think! And, the term Monk and 'Key' in ancient times meant 'an Original Monk', however, this too became derogatory much later in time. --monkey--

Well, @ProfD, you were right about Brittany Griner being swapped[!], and on that note, I sure hope you are right on this one too. Yes, I agree, but I did read recently a comment from @Stefan and he said that women should also be accountable too and that is what I also believe. There does need to be a strong coalition of AfroAmerican men but Black women need to step up too. I tried to ignore this too, @Troy but now, after I realize the great effort of others who kept putting out on social media, I am glad I paused to look at it. This is so awful, but had it not been for the media attention, I don't think this would have surfaced so soon.

This is one-sided @Pioneer1 Where is @Cynique! Man! LOL. It goes both ways. Stop pushing genderism.

Obviously you are believing in false information @Pioneer1 Haitians are said to practice the Catholic religion and Voudun widely. Ethiiopia is the only country that was not colonized and the video reference I posted talked about this. Many Ethiopians practice the Abrahamic religion; COPTIC. Italy attempted 2 full scale invasions in Ethiopia and the video I posted highlighted this. One main reason the Ethiopians were successful, it was explained was that they were widely united and their religion did not hamper their goal. That is the one issue, I believe will cause African people a continual problem for most, in that, they constantly attack each other and attempt to force their religious beliefs on others. Religious beliefs is a human right and if a person's religion gives them the right to attack others and attempt to force it on others, then that should not be allowed. That should be a freedom of choice. I am very pessimistic about Black Unity and this is one issue that I believe will continue to cause division; RESPECT. As a Christian, I absolutely believe in the scriptures in that we all must unify and be ONE BODY, however, as the scriptures say, this unity will happened but it will not occur for about a thousand years and not until Black-on-Black Hatred and disrespect of others becomes rooted out. No, that is not true. That is false information. Papa Doc, yes, he was a Voudon but, his methods were brutal with his bogeyman guards. TOUSSAINT LOVERTURE was a devout CATHOLIC!!! He was successful in what led up to Haiti's freedom and not by voodoo or majic. I believe that the slaves did what they could to deal with so much violence and the magic was beneficial for them. However, the slavery could never occur without Black-on-Black violence and what is going on right now, is an effect of that same system of disrespect, IMO.

What Hapened to Shanquella Robinson? This is a disturbing story. I feel so much sorrow for what that precious young woman has endured and the awful way that she had to suffer and then die. It is my opinion that she was obviously murdered and perhaps set up, then brutally attacked while a group of evil people that she thought were her friends watched. I just can't believe that someone would have that kind of spirit to do that to someone. No one deserves this. If someone had a problem with her, then they should have given her the human right to be tried in a court of law. But at what point did this premeditated death trap begin for this poor girl? Was it planned in Mexico or, was the whole trip part of the plan to deceive her and then beat her to death? Apparently, Shanquella and a group of 'friends' spent their money to take a vacation in Mexico and this precious girl constantly communicated with her mother before, during and after she had arrived in Mexico. But within the next 24 hours was when she was brutally murdered and she had no hint of knowing her fate when she had last spoke with her Mom. One of the 'friends' phoned the Mom and told her that her daughter had alcohol poisoning and the doctor was coming to the hotel. But moments later, the mother was told that her daughter was dead. Afterwards, those 'friends' flew back to the States and came to visit the mother before the funeral. However, the mother got a phone call from an anonimous person after the visit and was told that her daughter did not die from alcohol, but she had been beatened to death. Then the mother found out that the 'friends' had videoed the very death of this girl and it was released to the law and media. OH MY GOD! How could another Black woman be so evil against another? The video showed that Shanquella was in the hotel and was standing near a bed in the nude and another 'beast' moved forward and began to beat her viciously. Shanquella fell back on the bed and this evil spirit coninued to beat her. Then someone who was watching this evil act started laughing and taunting Shanquella and telling her to fight back. This poor child never fought back. The Death Certificate soon revealed that Shanquella did not die due to alcohol, but indeed, due to a broken back and neck. Initially, the Mexican authorities did not do anything about this murder but because of Shanquella's family and many people who went to social media, finally, the law here in America and Mexico came to realize that this girl was murdered and now they are looking into a legal method in how to prosecute this case. For now, only one person has been sought for this crime, but I hope that others will also be prosecuted as well. I don't know how anyone can sleep at night after watching this beautiful girl die in such an awful way.

This is very interesting! @Troy I can't believe that this is becoming a drama series after she died! She was very creative. But if I were to be able to write as she has done so successfully, I would want to be alive to be able to spend the money generated from the success. Man! This reminds me of what Monique said about Black women being elevated and acknowledged after they are dead.

Good question. And your following response, caught me off guard, initially. The Russian arms dealer becomes a striking awareness to this topic!

Yes, this is so true, however, our differences on how to solve the problem should not stop us from continuing to search for the answer.

HEY!-- What an awesome point! @richardmurray I never saw this side of it! I am stunned at your reasoning. Thank you! This makes me want to go see this movie all the more. This 'cheap bandaid' is all that we have for now in many cases, however, because of the strength of the DOSers to press forward and put something up for our history, it will probably lead to a better bandaid! Get out! Thank you again for this comment. LOL! @ProfDYes, well as for me, this is my home then for more than one reason because my slave ancestors came late enough, perhaps, to not be bullied into not also saying that I also have Native American ancestry so those bastards can try and say that this isn't my home. Sht--makes me so angry. On the other hand though, I can understand why some Native Americans don't feel happy about the White man inserting the African slave into their land without their agreement. Some of them benefitted from our detriment while others, well, I don't know.

Well, the youtuber, Patti Jackson and others insinuate that Ms. Cara was suffering depression and so ... they are hinting at something, but I don't want to speak anything into being true when it may be false. But, yeah, if she was BLACK LISTED and that is why we've not heard much from her in years, then she could have been upset about that. So unfair! She was so talented and beautiful.

FURTHERMORE, I believe that AFrican Americans need to tune into this horror because happenings on this scale may affect other peoples as well and the whole globe, for that matter. IMAGINE if your finger represented HAITI and the rest of your body represented the whole planet. Well, if you cut your finger, it may hurt and appear to heal but if the cut was infected, then guess what, eventually your whole body could feel the effects of that infection! THAT, IMO, IS WHY THIS ISSUE IN HAITI SHOULD BE DEALT WITH ON A GLOBAL LEVEL. Although, it may take a long time, maybe hundreds of years, but I believe that this whole world will forever be affected by the enslavement of African people and if it is not addressed and dealt with properly, this world will never know peace as it should. I many times hear White people and also Black people too, say that slavery is over and Blacks today that complain about it still affecting society are just making up false excuses, but IMO, HAITI is a great example that is a complete lie! The problems going on in Haiti are a direct result of those people being severely affected by slavery. So, there needs to be a solution to affectively deal with a great suffering. I believe that one of the solutions is to understand the main problems that led to the issues today. NO, IT'S NOT ONLY THAT FRANCE SHOULD PAY BACK REPARATIONS, OR AMERICA, BUT ALL OF THE SEVEN-HEADED BEAST ARE DIRECT BENEFACTORS OF THAT ENTIRE ISLAND ENSLAVING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF BLACK AFRICANS DURING THOSE PAST DECADES. They need to stop pointing the finger at each other and take responsibiity for their organization of leagues during the A.D. 1500s in the set up of Chattel Slavery targeted against the African countinent. Just like what was said about how they attacked the Native Americans here, they proverbially put one arrow of a tribe into another tribe and instigated and supported inter-tribal war, that is what they did with the Africans. They knew the conflicts and came to Africa with their idea of 'unfair trade' and gave a lot of trade to certain Africans that used this benefit to attack and kill off and oppress other Africans. [1] Not only that but, Europe committed a Bait-and-Switch government and set up on Christianity but later Separated Church and State in order to keep chattel slavery as law, KNOWING THAT THE VERY BIBLE THEY INIALLY USED SPOKE AGAINST INHERITED ENSLAVEMENT FOR LIFE. So, yes, part of Haiti's issues, imo does revolve around spiritual confustion and are not educated on the origins of the religions they practice and this is causing a great division. Most historians say that the VOUDU RELIGION formed out of the violence they endured as a result of slavery, and so, if that is true then, these Africans may need to revisit this issue and determine its origin. I believe though, it may go back much farther in time. [2] Another problem too is that these young men dominating the gangs are associating their plight with the Taliban but what they do not understand is that the east world does have a certain religious basis as well, no matter how off some may say they are in their religious practices. Those people have elder leaders that they respect. The gangs in Haiti are said to be KIDNAPPING their own people and forcing relatives to pay a ransom and in this way, they are getting a lot of funding to trade and get weapons, etc. They are taxing their own people and copying ancient techniques thinking they are right. That is crazy. [3] The weakened central government leaders are asking for outside help and for a national troop to put their boots on the ground. However, there is a great reluctance due to outside negative actions. Maybe the UN needs to ask a strong country in Africa to go into Haiti. Maybe the AU needs to be supported to help Haiti. [4] Finally, I believe, again, because all 7-European countries that formed the League of Nations back in the 1500s orchestrated against Black AFrica with their Idol religion, then that would mean that SPAIN needs to also help. Therefore, the neighboring country, SANTO DOMINGO, needs to be addressed, perhaps with some type of incentive to set up refuge towns specifically for the Haitians. Oh yes, all of them, all of the 7-leagued nations, including Spain, should be paying reparations due to chattel slavery. [1] Spain & Portugal, [2] Dutch Netherlands [3] Britian & the United Kingdom, [4] France & Belgium, [5] Italy, [6] Scandinavia, and [7] Germany. Here is two other brief and very recent videos about the pressing issues in Haiti; one video is of an Ethiopian person, though he is not speaking about Haiti, but he actually brought out some awesome points in how Ethiopia had to deal with the attempted force colonization of Italy. And he also targeted the issue of religion and how 'heretic religion' can negatively affect unification of a people. I think Haitians need to re-address some of their religious trances that I have heard about in how they can conjure up their dead ancestors to tell them what they should do and how they should conduct their lives and then forcing others to worship ancestors that they may not even be connected to. Anyway, I apologise if I am being offensive, please don't be angry with me, but I am open for understanding. Gangs in Haiti battle for control amid unrest Ethiopia the pride of Africa and blacks ... Thabo Mbeki

This is so true and so depressing, @ProfD but nevertheless, I am not giving in. Gosh! What can we do!? Oh really? I did not know this. Interesting. @Pioneer1 I don't know about this though, because, just what is FULL AFRICAN? IMO, a lot of AFrican conflicts are based on the same confusion that you have outlined. Oh yes! You nailed it on this one, IMO. That is definitely one of the main problems there. And when you say that the United Nations are helping to destablize it, I can understand this too, but again, you saying that the Haitians should abandoned the Catholic religion and return to their Voudon and etc. is very probematic and kind of like 'a catch-22. YES, what I mean by a 'Catch-22' is that I believe part of the 'destablization' of outsiders is that they encouraged the Haitians to practive Voudu after a while when they came to realize that the Haitians equated their ancestors spirits with the Catholic religious saints. That, imo, is part of the problem with this Spiritual confusion that you so brilliantly stated.

For real! Two totally different issues and people want to compare Griner to that kind of charge. Craziness. Oh, get this, in that article you posted, @Stefan it reads, Ex-President Donald Trump had one of the most aggressive attacks Thursday, writing on his social media platform Truth Social that Griner is “a basketball player who openly hates our Country” and that it was a “‘stupid’ and unpatriotic embarrassment for the USA” to free her in exchange for Viktor Bout, a notorious Russian arms dealer. He is really off based! How he twisted an African American person in a negative light for not liking police brutality against Breonna Taylor and George Floyd into them/her hating 'her country[!]' is crazy. This is her country. She should have a right to not agree with certain issues.

Well, my opinion is based on a little knowledge and again, a little observation. When I was younger, I did not watch much television, but I later became curious about how certain cartoons and historical fiction shows and also gaming characters were aligned with truth. I began to pay notice to the credits after the show and it seems to me that a lot of cartoons and such are based on a lot of research from learned historians. Therefore, I believe that if you want to use an Asian character for a shaolin monk, you should at least do some research on that wise. Right off the top of my thoughts, the word 'Monk' signifies a very early presence of Black African typed 'ancient Sumerians' that were present in the ancient far east and then by the time that the shaolin monk became historical, well, I don't know. But I do believe at the time of these kinds of monks, there were still a significan presence of AFrican-typed 'monks' there too! I remember a recent movie, but the title escapes me though, of a film that showed a lot of historical fiction and I was very well aware of some of the roles played by Asians were actually a depiction of Blacks. One of the common terms thrown around in that movies was the derogatory term for Blacks at that time, 'LACKEY' [i.e. Blackey]. So, again, if people don't care about historical acurracy in your depictions, then you will do great, but if people do care, then it might cause your invention to not take off very well.

Oh yes! And, I just learned about that! Apparently King Louis X, sent a flotilla of ships to Haiti and demanded that the slaves pay reparations to the French for their freedom and so, the Haitians did agree. So, over the course of 30 years the Haitians paid reparations!!! And they borrowed from America and Britian and French banks to pay reparations! One recent college professor said that is one of the problems Haitians are having today because of it. She called it the biggest heist in history, that the slaves pay reparations. And, some politicians told France they need to pay it back, but most agree that France basically is laughing at such an idea. That is insane. But what can anyone do if some of the Haitians in power are accepting a lot of bribes and not caring about their people as a whole. Seems like they need a better centralized government. And the young men that are in control need to respect the older men as their leaders. Anger and rage is NOT the answer but Love and fighting a defensive position would yield a much better outcome in my opinion. Too much Black hatred is going on nowadays. smh. Depressing. What about the poor little children.

What is the United Nations Doing About HAITI? And, can anything be done to help the people, especially the children? I read that a Biden Administrator just recently resigned because he disagrees with the Biden administration's actions. Apparently, many Haitian's fled to Mexico and thereabouts after the 2010 earthquake and are now being deported back to Haiti by the Biden administration. And many of them were actually born in Mexico and have never been to Haiti, so obviously many of them being sent to Haiti are children and teen agers! Lately, I have been doing a little research about Haiti and I am honestly very surprised about what I have learned. Did anyone here know that most Haitians are from ancestors that came from Dahomey!? That sounds shocking to me, initially, but then on the other hand, it makes sense because of the extensive slave trading that went on in that region. But if this is true then, my first instincts seem to also be true in that the women warriors were actually victims and mostly enslaved themselves and became victims of the very people that forced them into this warrior women culture. I learned too, that the famous Toussaint Loverture's parents were from Allada and were enslaved by the DaHomey Slave Catchers. Also, the famous Alexander Dumas' father [or, grandfather] were captured by the Dahomey slave catchers too. DID ANYONE HERE KNOW TOO THAT AFTER THE HAITIANS REVOLTED AGAINST SLAVERY THAT MANY OF THEM IMMIGRATED TO LOUISIANA!!!??? I'm like what!? I never learned this in school!? There was NEVER a connection made about the Louisiana Purchase and the Haitian revolt!!! So then, my research revealed that the president at the time, President Andrew Jackson deliberately suppressed the Haitin victory that led to them being a free nation. American did not recognize Haiti until 1862 as being a free nation. But what surprises me is that because the Haitians fought so hard, it was them that became the DIRECT reason the French decided to sale the Lousiana country which comprised a vast area of land from Louisiana to the west and up to Canada around 1803. This kind of history is crazy fascinationg for me. But now, fast forward to now!!! After the 2010 Earthquake that hit Haiti really bad, and the Hurricane Matthew in 2016 and etc. this country has went from bad to worse. I am only beginning to research, however, I believe that this kind of information is important for African Americans to know about. Why, I wonder, is Haiti having all of this horrors? This country is in trouble. It's like worse than being clasified as 'A Third World Country' status. Here are two brief videos that I have recently watched.

In all honesty, I don't believe Trump would have helped her at all. I am so glad that she has been freed. What a nightmare.

IRENE CARA: DID YOU KNOW THAT SHE WAS BLACK LISTED!? Oh Wow! This popular youtuber showed up on my channel, but I have never heard of her until now. I did not know that Irene Cara was also part Cuban. Her father is a Black man from Puerto Rico and her mother is cuban. Irene Cara was born in the Bronx, New York, so I just learned about a new term that I've never heard of until now regarding Puerto Rican people who whom were born in New York and thereabouts. They have been referred to as "Nuyorican". Interesting. My step-brother is from Buffalo, New York, however, I've never heard him say anything about this. I did not hear of this on this channel but there are a lot of videos now about Irene Cara and this one seems interesting. Anyway, she posted some information about Irene Cara and some other interesting tidbits. I recently heard about the Byron Allen award show and she also said it was a great event. So now, I like this youtuber and plan on listening in on her again. Her name is Patty Jackson, maybe someone has heard of her before. At any rate, I am posting this first video that I have come across. She also said that at the same time the Griot Awards show aired, the Soul Train awards show also aired.