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  1. Allow me to mansplain; what you keep describing as a definition from Merriam Webster is NOT a definition.  As you wrote it is described as a word "we are watching"  for potential inclusion in their dictionary.  Understand, or do I have to mansplain further?

     

    @Cynique, if you actually read the entire text for understanding, rather than cherry picking it to support an erroneous position, you would have included the thesis statement from the article (the very first paragraph, emphasis mine):

     

    We haven't seen adverbial use yet, but we're keeping our eyes open. The word's death knell has been sounded—it's so broadly applied that some say that any time a man opens his mouth he's accused of mansplaining—but mansplain is clearly not going to be dropping out of use any time soon.

     

    Clearly, at least to anyone actually interested in understanding, it does not seem likely that they will be including the word in their dictionary any time soon. This is just reading comprehension.

     

    Accusing me of refusing to use Google is a silly and disingenuous.  I'd already found, via Google, and read the article from Merriam Webster before you posted the broken link to it the first time.  It fact, I used it to support my argument.  Astonishingly, you tried to use the very same article to support an opposing position?!

     

    Also, pointing out my typos is an unnecessary diversionary tactic. You obviously understood what I meant. I was going to ask more than one question but changed my mind and never changed questions to question... If something is unclear ask for clarity.  

     

    Another weak tactic is ignoring the facts I've presented and accusing it of being "emotional thing" with me. You know me better than that.  Besides you are as fully engaged in this debate as I am, but I have not accused you of being "emotional."  I don't have to my position is much stronger.

     

    Yes the term is derogatory, for the reason Merriam Webster described in the quote above. If you read the linked article, "death knell has been sounded," you'll find more reasons.

     

     

  2. This is so very deep.

     

    Cynique the idea that we can't, while sitting in front of a computers, even agree on whether a word is in the dictionary is exasperating to the point of being "Pioneeric." 

     

    I have the MW app on the cell phone app; mansplain is not coming up there either.  I showed you a reference from the MW website where they explain why the word is not in their dictionary.  Still you want to insist the work is there, with only your word and broken link to back you up.  I guess that is what they mean by alternate facts.  Will any amount of mansplaining get you to see reality?  @Del Cynique must be a fixed Sun sign like Taurus or Leo huh?

     

    OK @Cynique I have a simple questions for you.  Would you want to see a journalist use the word in a new story?  For example;  

     

    "The Minnesota congressman mansplained the new legislation to group of educators at the Association of American Educators conference on Thursday."

     

    Yes or No?

     

     

  3. LOL, being accessed of mansplaining is what drives men to cheat. ;)

     

    I beg to differ with you on many points @Cynique;

    1. It is women, not men, who initially perverted the term by misuse it in the ways that I described earlier.
    2. Mansplain is not in the Merriam Webster dictionary. The link you provided is broken. 
    3. Here is a article describing Merriam Websters's stance on the "word."
    4. The "Urban Dictionary" is not a formal dictionary.
    5. Sure, mansplain can be considered an idiom, but that does not make it a real word; one that is found in a proper dictionary and is appropriate for formal communication.
    6. You may love language, but surely you must appreciate that the use of words like "mansplain" distorts language.  There are much better, and clearer, ways of expressing oneself. Naa'mean?
  4. Cynique, do I have to mansplain "mansplain" to you? ;)

     

    I gave you a definition of Mansplaining which you have either ignored or rejected.  My use is not unprecedented: 

     

    Beside this is not really a word.  It is like arguing about the definition of "troysplain." The word does not appear in the word in the Merriam Webster dictionary.

     

    The Atlantic defines it as "explaining without regard to the fact that the explainee knows more than the explainer, often done by a man to a woman"

     

    In the vast majority of the "definitions" I've read, there is no requirement for mansplaining to be done by a man to a woman as you asserted.  Generally qualifier "often or "usually" is used.

     

    @Cynique, why insist upon "proper use" of a word that has no official definition? 

     

     

     

  5. Well I was correct …one, and only one, of these titles to win.”  I, however, was wrong about the book that would win. 

     

    I discounted Jesmyn's book simply because she'd previously won a National Book Award.  In fact, Jesmyn is the only Black writer to win two National Book Awards in any category.  She may be the only author to have won the award twice of any color, but I only track the Black authors.  Her first win was for Salvage the Bones

     

    Perhaps my picking Rita's children's book to win was wishful thinking. Still there have only been four Black winners of a National for Children's Literature in 68 years, which stands in stark contrast Jesmyn Ward who, by herself, has already won half of that many in just 7 years!

     

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  6. Yes that would be my goal Cynique.

     

    Since you first used the word I looked it up.  There are many variations on the theme including the phase womansplain that you mentioned.  Mansplain is often used by a woman to preemptively reject something a man says. The man's intentions are irrelevant. The accuracy of what he says does not matter. It is a just a way for a woman to shut a guy down when they can't articulate why they disagree and hurl the sexist epithet "mansplain" in frustration..  

     

    Sure there are probably a few women who use the world in the manner you've defined, but most don't. It is just a derogatory term whose meaning has already been smeared through misuse. I can understand why some women don't want it added to the dictionary and feel it is a silly term.

     

    The word is not in all dictionaries.  The word is not "universally" accepted.  I do not, nor have I ever asserted ,that I speak for all men.

     

    Troysplaination complete.

  7. The Talented RibkinsThe Talented Ribkins by Ladee Hubbard Wins 2017 Ernest J. Gaines Award for Literary Excellence

     

    In the process of researching Ladee's books, to update her content, I discovered this video, an interview with on Late NIght with Seth Meyers.  Now I never watch the late night shows but I was very surprised  to see a relatively obscure debut Black author being interviewed on a National TV program.

     

    She is does even have any of the bonuses that get Black folks more attention; she is not LGBT, from Africa, an ex-con, a celebrity, athlete, nor displays any outwards sign of dysfunction.  She does have the a multiracial look working, but still... This defies everything I know about TV and White supremacy.  My worldview has been cast askew.  

     

    Have I become that so jaded by racism over the years that I can't even conceived of this type of interview even taking place?  I could see if it was James Patterson or JK Rowlings...

     

    Well no matter what I think this is a good look for Ladee and I need to know who her publicist is!

     

  8. Today the Black voice has far less power than it has in past say 50 years.  The fact of the matter is that we no longer own the platforms to wield any power.   We have fewer magazines, newspapers, radio stations, websites. The few platforms that remain carry very little weight or influence amongst our people.

     

    When was the last time anything substantive was quoted, from a Black owned platform, in anything you have read?

     

    Our voices are heard solely due to largess or greed of white folks.  They tell us who and what is important, and therefore how to think.  This is the reason we support their businesses and not our own.  It really is that simple. 

     

    Unless white folks substantiate what we do; it is unimportant to us, and they do not substantiate anything unless it will make them some money.  I refer this as the "white-cosign."  

     

     

     

     

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  9. Well Cynique, men have flipped the script on women who would insult us for simply opening our mouths. We have coopted the term for our purposes. 

     

    It is not universally accepted as a word, how can you impose a such a firm definition? That is like trying to shove your definition of "nigga" down my throat. 

     

    Need I mansplain further?

     

    Del be careful next you be believing there are multiple races too.

  10. Cynique, you should already by now you can be honest with most people.  Lipstick Alley (LSA) reminded me of AALBC.com back its hey-day.  The owner of the site is a sister, whose avatar is a photo of Condi Rice.  Everyone on LSA is anonymous, from my limited view so far, even the moderator. I did not hide my identity however, cause I'm too busy making sure people know AALBC.com. 

     

    My first post was met with skepticism, gratitude, flirtation, and even few thumbs down.  That was how i was welcomed and I enjoyed it.  One person welcomed me to:

     

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    They are off the chain over that LSA :) 

     

    But our course most people would have taken the negative comments to seriously and left--assuming they would even post at all.

     

    At the end of the the Black owned site has a thriving community which is almost impossible in our Facebook dominated world.

  11. @Cynique get outta here!  LOL!  Allow me to mansplain, the term is also used to describe men talking to each other in a way that only two men would understand uncut, raw, use of jargon and colloquialisms are fine too.

     

    For example;

     

    "Will one of y'all please mansplain "Wednesday Thursday Friday to me 'cause I did not get it?"

    "WTF"

     

    Question answered or "mansplained."

     

    My aunt used to say Sugar Honey Iced Tea.  I guess that would be easy to figure out now.  If not, I'll mansplain it to you ;)

  12. Well there are billions of use Cynique and I think are all part of the universe, not a reflection of it, not a product of it we are it.  The distinguishing ourselves as individual apart from the whole is how we perceive reality, but I'd don't that is the way it is.

     

    Del keep in mind just because Pioneer clarified my statement does not mean that he did it correctly--surely you must know this :lol:  I needed to confirm that for you.  The distinction I made was important because it explains the different between my statement and Cyniques last one

  13. ...sure it is possible @MAFOOMBAY I've pretty much dedicated my life to that possibility :)

     

    Clayton Byrd Goes UndergroundWhen I redesigned this site.  I grouped children's books and YA books together into one category.  That was a mistake that I will eventually need to clean up.  The biggest difference between children's books and YA is that children's books are actually sold to adults (a 4 year-old does not buy books).  So the marketing is different.  I think white parents, are far less likely to buy a book featuring Black characters, regardless of the color of the author.

     

    Keats is often cited, because his book, was one for the first published by a mainstream publisher to have a Black kid as the main character.  But I'm not sure how commercially successful it was with white parents.  Libraries, schools, and Black parents snapped up copies for sure, but I simply do not know how many white parents purchased the book. Jim Crow laws were still in effect. throughout the south when the book as first published.

     

    There is a children's book that is a finalist for a National Book Award tomorrow (11/15/17), Clayton Byrd Goes Underground It is written by a sister, Rita Williams-Garcia, from New York City.  In fact, I've predicted Rita's book has the best chance for a book written by a Black writer to actually win the award.

     

    The fact that the book was nominated should greatly boost sales.  Even if the book wins I don't expect it to greatly boost sales, outside the library and school communities.

     

    Given the dearth of platforms celebrating and selling Black books I'd be surprised if a significant number of Black parents with children are even aware of the book. But hey it is possible and we can observe what happens in the future.

     

     

  14. The 68th National Book Awards are being held this Wednesday, November 15, 2017.  For the first time in five years I, or rather AALBC.com, was not invited to attend this year's celebration. I'm not sure if any Black owned media will be in attendance covering the event.  It was not like there were that many to begin with but I just reached out to the other group that covered the event to see if they are going.

     

    I'm not mad, but I get the feeling the organizers do not want a repeat of 2016.  As I noted in my comments from last year (above), I know some in attendance were not happy that night.  No one will ever be able to joke about the National Book Awards being a production of BET ever again.

     

    Here are my predictions for the 2017 National Book Awards:

     

    Now my predictions are based solely on what I'd describe as politics.  "Politics" is really not the right word.  The idea is that my predictions are not based upon the quality of the literature at all, but more a combination of political correctness and a reaction to 2016,   Of course this reasoning is not objective, but I don't think the National Book Awards, indeed any awards are objective.  Despite the lack of objectivity, I'm going to go out on a limb and make my predictions public.  

     

    The finalist for 2017 include five books by Black Writers. This represents 25% of all the finalists which based upon our percentage of traditionally published authors, I'm sure this is pretty good representation (rrremember I'm completely ignoring the quality of the books themselves--perhaps all of the Finalists should have been books written by Black writers; maybe none deserved to be).

     

    In all of the categories for which that National Book Awards gives prizes, Fiction (1), Nonfiction (1), Poetry (1), and Young People's Literature (2). there is at least one book, written by a Black writer that is a finalist:

     

    Black Finalists for the 2017 National Book Awards

     

    I expect one, and only one, of these titles to win. 

     

    However if no writer wins a National Book Award in 2017, I will not be surprised.  I will not only be unsurprised, I will be a bit disheartened because that would portent even less mainstream publishing support for books written by Black writers in the near future.  I'd also have to suspect that the lack of Black writers winning an award is in direct reaction, conscious or not, to the dominance that Black writers exhibited in 2016. 

     

    The likelihood of two titles winning is so low that it approaches zero.

     

    So if only one title will win, which title will it be? For that we need a little historical content:

     

    Below is a chart which shows the number of titles that were written by Black writers and have won a National Book Award.  It is a different view of the same information presented in the graph above.  Technically two of the awards were presented in categories that no longer exist "Children's" and "First Fiction." I have placed these, for the purpose my prediction, under "Young People" and "Fiction" respectively.

     

    Year Fiction Nonficn Poetry Young People's Total
    1953 1       1
    1975       1 1
    1983 2     1 3
    1989 1       1
    1991   1     1
    1999     1   1
    2000     1   1
    2006     1   1
    2008   1     1
    2010     1   1
    2011 1   1   2
    2013 1       1
    2014       1 1
    2015   1 1   2
    2016 1 1   1 3
    Total 7 4 6 4 21
               

     

    We can see that Black writers have, historically, won the most awards in the fiction and poetry categories.  Given that Black writers have the won the most prestigious award, the fiction category, three of the last 5 years, I doubt a Black author will win that category this year.  Black writers, since 1999 have won 1 out of 3 of the poetry awards bestowed.  So I doubt the win will be in poetry for similar reasons.

     

    Now that might sound like a lot of awards in those two categories, but lets keep in mind: the award started in 1950; for the next 60 years only 8 Black writers won in those categories, roughly one Back winner every 8 years!

     

    That leaves nonfiction and children's. Black writers won nonfiction the last two years in a row. I don't see this happening three years in a row.  The chidlren's category is a bit more interesting.

     

    2017 Children's book author finalist, Rita Williams-Garcia is only one of 6 authors to be longlisted 3 times or more for a National Book Award and not win.  The other are James Baldwin, Carl Phillips, Kevin Young, Marilyn Nelson, and Walter Dean Myers. I think if anyone has a chance this year it is Rita.

     

    Rita is the all-time bestselling children's book author on AALBC.com.  She is also our #24 bestselling author; no other children's book author is even in the top 50. Rita also has the temperament and personality to appeal to diverse audiences and be an ambassador for books which the National Book Foundation loves. The publisher of Rota's nominated title, Amistad, was started by a Brother, Charles Harris, Amistad's titles have been nominated 9 times but has never won. Both Rita and Amistad are overdue.

     

    So there it is.  We will see what happens Wednesday night.  Again, I will not be there, but I will report on the results Thursday.

     

    If I'm right, you would be able to tell me nothin'! :D

     

     


     

    *The data behind the information provided above comes from the AALBC.com database.  If there are any inaccuracies they are all mine. I'm not aware of another source for this type of information.  If you find any errors in the information in my database please share them by posting a reply.

     

     

     

     

  15. "Amazon has filed arbitration demands against several book authors, publishers and marketers, alleging that they abused the Kindle Direct Publishing system to artificially inflate their profits and sales rankings.

     

    One of the demands, for example, alleges that a man from the Philippines offered a service to authors to boost the number of pages read in their books using hundreds of fake Amazon customer accounts, in exchange for a 40 percent cut of their profits. Amazon pays authors who participate in the Kindle Unlimited and Kindle Owners’ Lending Library program using a formula based on pages read." Read the complete article at GeekWire.

     


     

    Of course Amazon is not suing for issues of integrity of morality. I'm not aware of Amazon suing anyone for posting bogus book reviews or selling pirated copies of books; because those illicit activities generate revenue for them. 

  16. Amazon in store book pricesWhen the Amazon bookstore in Seattle opened almost exactly a year ago — the company’s first full-fledged retail location — book prices were identical to those on Amazon.com, whether you were a Prime member or not.

     

    But now the discounted prices are only available to Prime members. If you’re not, you’ll pay sticker price.

    The message: If you’re not a Prime member, you can’t get discounts.

     

    There are no price tags on the books at Amazon’s store, as customers can either scan the book at a kiosk or use Amazon’s app to find out how much each product is.   Read the full article at GeekWire

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