OK it is not really @Delano and I debating, The debaters are Joe Rogan and Candace Owens -- two people I never heard of before today, but who must be pretty prominent. I listened to few of Joe's interviews while working today he did a 3-hour interview with Neil Degrasse Tyson, which is pretty big.
At any rate, Joe's arguments are the same as mine and Del's reasoning, though I'm sure he'll probably reject this statement, is fundamentally the same as Candice's -- rejecting the findings of the entire scientific community.
Joe spends a lot of time convincing Candance that because of her celebrity it is important how she communicates her position on climate change. I'd argue that it is Joe providing Candice a platform which is the problem. The more Candice spoke the more people she has the opportunity to convince -- and she is quite convincing as foine as she is LOL!