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There can't be free will unless you are free to choose. Children have free will but we socialise it out of them. @Mel Hopkins is that a fair interpretation of your statement. Will check the link

@Delano Yes! Choose as in free to create; divine level creation. Like when children come up with the best tales and you say, “WTH”? Selection (decision) is to pick from what is already created or presented. That’s not choice.

@Delano I’m not at the level where I can explain free will or consciousness. I’m aware of it, I experience it ; but like gravity I don’t know the mechanics. Here’s a shot: I’ve mentioned this in another topic here that free will is Kuumba (Swahili). Its Bantu origin means “to create something from nothing”... the “nothing” in this case is use of “imagination” the place, I believe, consciousness exist. Originally, the meaning of choice was free will. The etymology of choice reveals it was different from decision which connotes selection. Today, we use them interchangeably. So of course, the original meaning “choice” which also meant “to see; perceive, to create” is lost on many. But it’s not lost on children under 5 who are able to express their consciousness. They are the best examples to watch to see free will in action. Observing children reveals consciousness is active, and present... Some believe as we age, consciousness remains more at rest than it is present. Check out this time article that obliterates everything I’ve written. I don’t care though. “I’m “free” to create and believe what I choose” http://time.com/3937351/consciousness-unconsciousness-brain/

Mel looking forward to the explanation of consciousness and free will

Don't be like that Troy. Pioneer is going home Disneyland Pioneer is fine, his skin and head are much thicker than mine. He can always let me know when he can't take it. But based on his Japanese lover story he can take it.

Lol! Yo @Pioneer1 you gonna let him punk you like Dat?! Just playing but it was funny though... Y'all think we can elevate the conversation reminds me of Facebook 😉

Del Lol...... Man, do you have ANY other role besides side-line cheerleader and instigator??? You sound like a kid who stands to the side and eggs on a school yard fight.