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But, @NubianFellow when you make statements like 'they don't count' or 'I ignore them' or, wearing 'hair hats' ... that is exactly what you are proposing to do. Don't you see that due to what happened in the past regarding the bad treatment that came from Black men in picking White women and others is a significant part of this issue in how Black women style their hair as White women? @NubianFellow The video that you posted was awesome! In it the Black women are beautiful, but you are not acknowledging other pertinent issues. Let me put it this way: In this video that you posted, at the 2:07 minute mark, this is what was sung; But you got to stop putting me down queen I didn’t cause slavery or condemn my people to slaves And I’m not responsible that White people came to Africa and made my ancestors slaves And I don’t call them cowards or Coons cause I know that my ancestors was brave because if they were weak we wouldn’t survive to even be alive right now to even embrace So we need to behave and respect our ancestors by showing love to ourselves the right way ________________________________________________________________________________________________ You know what this is called? It is called EXTREME SELF DENIAL!!! Whose fault is it then, that White people came into Africa and were able to set up slavery!? If the African kings were so strong then, how were White people able to do this!? IF this enslavement which lasted for hundreds of years is NOT a sign of SPIRITUAL WEAKNESS, then what do you call it? Why should we respect our ancestors blindly? The verses in this video are amazingly showing the very problem of today with gender conflicts; DENIAL. We want to blame White Supremacy on White people and suppress the White Supremacy that pervaded amongst the Africans and their fascination over White people that they welcomed into Africa!!! I absolutely believe that the guilt in letting in White Supremacy into Africa initially belong to both Black AFrican men and women who became obsessed over these White traits and started inter-mingling with White people in Africa. We need to take responsiblity for our part in this evil.

I boycotted the speech. i can't take looking at or listening to Trump for more than a few minutes. I figure i could watch the highlights on the news. i instead watched the first episodes of the Soul Train story on BET, a mini-series dramatizing the career of Don Cornelius and the ascendancy of his legendary dance party. I found it rather boring. Hardly a satisfactory alternative for me.

Nubian Fellow is that your Jheri Curled head on the video

Dude the employment situation is jacked up, Many have given up looking and are not counted in the unemployment figures, wages are shit and benefits are nonexistent. But that is not the point. This speech helps 45, will rally his base, and even get more people on board with him. Let me know what you thank after you've heard it. Abrams speech was fine, but did not directly address anything 45 said. The bit about her father walking in the freezing rain after giving his only coat to a homeless man was a bit much LOL! Her family only had one car -- poor baby how did they manage to survive!

I was not asserting that. I was saying it is not necessary. However the notion that some women style their hair in a manner they believe men would find appealing is not exactly absurd. Wouldn't you agree @Cynique? Of course there are and given the escalating cost of college that might seem reasonable. The reality however is less than 10 percent of Black women are currently enrolled in college. @Delano I dunno. From a personal perspective I judged Brown on his music which for the most part I enjoy -- again I give entertaining a lot of leeway in how they present themselves. When Al first rose to prominence his hair style, obesity, and jogging suit, was definitely a negative in my book... he was a mess. What do you think Del?

How do you know black women style their hair to attract men? They are just as likely to style their hair because that's what all the other women are doing. Maybe.There are millions of black female college graduates who don't spend more money on their hair than their education. Everybody has their own theory about the relationship black women have with their hair. I don't place a lot of credibility in men's opinion on this subject.

What perspective is this? That i agreed with Nubian fellow, until i didn't agree with him? LOL Actually i never earned a living as a writer. i was kind of a part-time free-lancer. After i retired from my day job shuffling papers as a postal clerk, i did self-publish 4 paperbacks - that never went anywhere. @NubianFellow If a black woman successfully survives/excels in a white society without wearing her hair natural, what other validation does she need? Hair in its natural state is not some magical halo that inspires and guarantees pride. That idea has to be instilled in a black female because it's not something she is born thinking. Since black hair is of no importance in the dominant white society, its appearance is irrelevant. You are romanticizing the significance of hair as something other than an "appendage" - like fingernails. A woman is not obligated to comply with male approval and she is free to do whatever she want to with her hair. Your believing otherwise doesn't matter since you are not an arbitrator. If she has her "coochie" waxed, so damned what? It's what's inside that counts.