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@Pioneer1 Correction: I'm no longer married to him. He is still the father my children and we've spent practically every major holiday together for the last 2 decades. I'm sure I've written why we divorced somewhere in this forum. If I didn't, I'm not going to rehash it. Here's the short version: irreconcilable differences. He had a momentary lapse in judgment (his words). He didn't want to divorce. I didn't like being married.

@Pioneer1As if black people have a choice about being pro-black. Monique doesn't have to be a black nationalist to be pro-black. All she has to be is a black person who is anti-white when it comes to blacks being exploited.

OK @Mel Hopkins I misunderstood what you were objecting to. When I wrote "women can't raise boys," I did not mean all attempts would be abject failures, as demonstrated by Joy Thomas Moore. What I really meant is that a woman's effort would be optimized with a male partner.

If that was the case on this site, you would've been banished long ago. You are not a threat to the woman on this board. You are still around because you provide us with ongoing opportunities to debunk the dumb ideas of the type of men you are representative of. LOL

@Pioneer1Oh puleeze. Anything to blame the media and exonerate a black man, - even a gay one. The Chicago Police Department bent over backwards to treat Jussie fairly because they knew they were under scrutiny by the entire nation due to their bad reputation. Bottom line, if Jussie hadn't done what he did, none of this would be happening to him and you wouldn't have to be trotting out your usual paranoid theories. Jussie is being punished for his stupidity, and he is solely to blame for the damage he has done to the credibility of the black and gay communities. All because he didn't think Empire was paying him enough money.

I disagree. Monique played a role that was essential to the plot of the movie and her character was more of a pitiful victim of circumstances, than a hard core villain. This is what actresses do; they play a role and the part is not always that of a heroine. The role Halle Berry played and received an Oscar for wasn't one that placed black women in a flattering light, but she embraced the character she played, - as any good actress does. The same can be said of the actress who played the obese, down-and-out Precious in Monique's movie, as well the subservient maid played by Viola Davis in "The Help". This has been the history of black actresses in Hollywood, but things are getting much better as sistas are stepping up in the industry and making a mark for themselves in front of and behind the camera.

@Troy please stop with the generalizations! There are far too many successful men who in public acknowledge they were raised by their mothers (ONLY). Still women don't raise "boys" they raise adults. Parents raise adults those who don't soon find they have grown-azz babies on their hands. AND it appears that @Chevdove knows her son and the young women he attracts better than he knows himself. She was well in her right to pull him aside and remind him of how this "fatal" attraction could go south...and then next thing you know we'd have a Justin Fairfax-like scandal. Note: Chevdove is his mother. Which is far different than the conversation we've had here where some men think it's their job to raise their love interest.

@Pioneer1You don't have a clue as to what "these women" are "angry" about. Nobody here is angry but you, and that's because the women here regularly dismiss your cock-eyed opinions about black women as being stupid.

@Pioneer1You delivered a cheap shot, making snide reference to the white guy's gender because you are so envious and bitter. Your transparency is glaring. i do not indiscriminately like white men. That's your rationale for my dissing you while tolerating a civil white guy who was sincere in his curiosity about black women. i wed and was married to a black man for 50 years and would rather be in the company of Troy or Del or Nubian Fellow or Gibran or Kalexander than any white man i know. i appreciate anyone with a droll wit and Lorne's self-effacing references to his blond pony tail and red beard were humorous . Something you are too obtuse and goofy to appreciate.

I have listened to a few women and that's not the problem. The problem is they either don't feel heard or their positions arent being considered. You could ask women. Or you can find men that agree with you. That's requires less work and self inspection.

Now that is an interesting statement, but I think it is WE (Black men) who are angry about being powerless; the women are just reflecting back how we view ourselves. It is not about Black women, it is about us. Twenty years ago Jeff Bezos, who is about my age, and I started selling books. Jeff is a multibazillionaire and I'm in debt. What is the difference? One has the full support and weight of the dominant culture behind him and the other is assaulted by it.

My first home was Hunts Point in the South Bronx. And at 5 I remember seeing kids sniff glue. Hunts Point is still famous for prostitution. We had to pass them coming home at night. Up until about 2005 I still had relatives in Hunts Point.