Delano

You can only disprove things in science. There are no facts just positons based on our current knowledge.

Pioneer - I agree. I no longer something isn't possible or at least I try to keep an open mind. So no matter how improbable I don't say impossible, because I haven't experienced it. I have been interested in the esoteric since I was a preteen. I believe I know that reality is what you believe. I have met Wizards, Witches, Psychics, Channelers, shamans energetic healers, Yoruba priest and priestess. Some more effective than others. When I meet someone that is less effective, I don't say their field is rubbish. I say they may be off or they are off today. I think it limits your world the more you negate ideas. I think you can be rigorous without being dismissive. If you have an opinion about something you haven't experienced that is ignorant. If you hear a person playing piano badly you don't say piano is a bad instrument. I hear some of the people I meet use that reasoning. I had a two friends who could read my mind. It was a bit disturbing because she would respond verbally to what I was thinking. Then I had a former friend who wad an energetic healer, could see and read auras, could tell you the future by you talking, and he was good with spells. Long story short I realized he was not a friend. So I blocked him from reading me mind. He was a bit suprised and he didn't like it So I am less likely to say that is impossible. What I do find with inspiration, intuition and thinking is that some times are better than others.

Interesting you challenge beliefs not ideas, I do the opposite. Why one and not the other. A belief does need to be proven, actually once you prove a belief it ceases to be a belief. I have no idea about the source of light. I believe the source of light is the mind. Space is the universal mind, the planets are the brain. I think there are only beliefs

It used to be that designees copied street culture, avant cards and the fringe and sold it to the masses. You sold a million records because tour music reached or touched people. Maybe I am just getting old but it seems like pop culture by committee.

It's a pretty complicated topic. Race, Sex, Class ( Angela Davis ) and Power. I heard a couple quotes about the film industry that I thought was interesting. When films started they were mostly owned by the Jewish. Yet the beauty standard was and too some extent Aryan. So you have an industry promoting s beauty standard that excludes the owners. Ned Beatty or Ed Asner said the following after shooting Roots. People complain about there being no positive Black Men on TV. He said there are no (few?) positive men period. Which leads to questions about identity. I think if you are using pop culture to define yourself there's going to be problems. I grew in a neighborhood where most of the families were White but the kids were mostly Black, there were two Puerto Rican families one if which became my Godmother, two Italians, one Irish kid and an interacial couple. So I kind of lived in a white world at school and a black world at home. I kind of liked the artsy fartsy scene, New York Nightlife and Dance Clubs, Boston 81 - 86, New York 85 - 01. I had been involved with European, Afro American, Asian, African and Australian. I stopped swing colour. Although my first inter racial relationship was an internal struggle. It was Boston, which was still intense racially. I was uncomfortable and made to feel it. That I as a college Black Male was disrespecting the Black Male Female Union that created me. What I have learned is all relationships are hard. We were middle upper middle class. Both parents worked lived in a semi attached home from 7 to 16. We saw Alvin Ailey and Dance Theatre of Harlem, went to Museums no Art Galleries and I had seen black plays and the Negro Ensemble Company. Where would you put the following shows or movies. I Spy the CosbyCulp, Fat Albert, Zoom, Sesame Street, The Electric Company, Tap, Malcolm X, She Gotta Have It, Jungle Fever (Interesting juxtaposition), Cotton Comes to Harlem, Five on the Black Hand side, Sweetback and Superfly. The last two I find really interesting because the score was by Earth Wind and Fire and Curtis Mayfield. I remember the protest about Superfly, decades later Curtis Mayfield said it was a story about redemption. My kids mother is white. I was explaining how Black people were treated in the US because of their color. He didn't understand it. My wife at the time said how good is that that is not part of their world. I still don't know how I feel about it. I actually felt that Avatar was Tarzan all over again. Where do you put Prince. If the lives of Black Folk where easier would you have Jazz. Very complex topic.

Troy I think this time you are mistaking my points for my feelings. perhaps there wasn't enough levity. First nature doesn't exist as saying. I was talking in analogies and parables. I would say the mind is a function of the brain. It just makes more sense that tangible is subordinate to the tangible. You have describe the process of the light bulb, but what is the source. I will challenge ideas but less comfortable challenging beliefs. I find the concept of the unconscious strange. Conscious, subconscious, preconscious are all okay. What was riddly, I'll see if I can answer and get back on topic.

Troy perhaps your beliefs concepts and ideas are based on your personal mythology. Even if they are based on science, scientist have a group and a personal mythology. It is easier to see others faulty thinking than our own. However beleiefs are never faulty.

Troy when you say a large number or many. What number do you have in mind, how did you find these many.

Troy can you add inspiration when we don't know it's origin. Troy re ESP. You and I have experience with ESP. does trickery ir subterfuge explain it. At times a medium does have access to information received from a different channel. I am not certain which functions are in the brain. When you turn on a light, what is source of the light. If you are surrounded by lies it may be difficult to recognise the truth. Why can't people see universals? Why can't you see your own face.

Troy you make it look easy, like it id first nature. Your initial statement is fruit salad Some information id like Thor's hammer. All beliefs are personal mythology. The mind has no mechanics the brain does. It's like comparing vision to the eyes. There's a subordinate relationship.

Cynique I would say ancient. Since certain fields encourage the use of creativity or original thinking. Which is added by intuition.

Pioneer - we may be tuning into some of the same frequencies. perhaps the personal mind is one cabinet in universal warehouse. i am in agreement with what you say about the mind. How can the intangible be connected to the tangible.

I use my intuition 100 hours a year. I have done so since about 1997. I find intuition to be quite useful especially because I am impractical. I would also say intuition and inspiration are different. Inspiration to me has a more emotions component. It produces and expansive euphoric effect. Like its root inhalation. I think in Latin it means breathing in Spirit or being filled with God. Whereas intuition is more of a mental construct. That makes you feel that your knowledge is grounded or supported.

Because inspiration is timeless.

An idea or inspiration. Inspiration occurs when motion ceases

Troy - You make a very convincing Devil. I believe in the collective unconscious. It could be the akashic records, a vast pool of informatio, God, Gods, whatever works for you. Whatever you want to call it it is astounding. I think that if you could "access" it you could create or invent from its inspiration. You would also no past,present and future. Since time probably doesn't exist

I sometimes am inspired when reading Tarot cards or Astrology charts. I am not certain how this is different from thinking.

Troy if you don't know where inspiration comes from how can you say where it doesn't come from.

If you got rid of inspiration you wouldn't have any science. A theory is based on inspiration. I am not a writer. I can't tell you where my inspiration comes from nor can I tell you where my ideas come from.